Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-03-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Martioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Sxetika me th dikh, eixa shmera epikoinwnia me ton Proedreyonta ths ESHEA k. Pano Sompolo. Moy dhlwse, pragma poy exei kanei kai dhmosiws, oti ta peripoy 15 aithmata poy ypebale stis armodies yphresies kai eidika sto Ypoyrgeio Typoy, exoyn ikanopoihqei ola kai den yparxei pleon kanena problhma gia thn akwlyth askhsh toy leitoyrghmatos twn dhmosiografwn. Ayto einai idiaitera shmantiko. Olo ayto ton kairo eixame stenh synergasia me th ESHEA kai kataferame telika, bhma-bhma, me kalh qelhsh kai xwris yperboles, akoygontas tis qeseis ths, na antimetwpisoyme ola ta yparkta problhmata poy yphrxan sth dieykolynsh toy ergoy sas. Yparxei akomh to aithma ths ESHEA gia thleoptikh kalych. Ayto, omws, opws gnwrizete, den afora emas, alla to dikasthrio kai qa ejetastei apo ayto. Ayto poy sas lew kai ayto poy eipe kai o Proedros ths ESHEA apanta se oles aytes tis yperboles poy epixeirhsan kapoioi na dhmioyrghsoyn oles aytes tis hmeres.

Yparxei mia shmantikh ejelijh, sthn opoia ajizei na anaferqoyme kai afora thn ellhnikh Proedria sthn E.E. Qa sas doqei kai sxetiko enhmerwtiko shmeiwma gi@ ayto. Egkriqhke sto Symboylio Antagwnistikothtas ths E.E., poy egine xqes (3/3) ypo thn Proedria toy Ypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoyloy, h politikh symfwnia gia to koinotiko diplwma eyresitexnias. Einai enas qesmos poy endiaferei oles tis kainotomes eyrwpaikes epixeirhseis, ara kai tis ellhnikes, alla kai oles ekeines poy ependyoyn stis eyrwpaikes xwres. Eixan ginei polles prospaqeies. Me th symfwnia poy epiteyxqhke, to koinotiko diplwma eyresitexnias qa ajiopoihsei tis ypodomes kai tis diadikasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Grafeioy Diplwmatwn Eyresitexnias, poy leitoyrgei edw kai merikes dekaeties. Qa metafrazetai se oles tis epishmes glwsses ths Enwshs. Qa ekdikazontai idiwtikes diafores gia thn isxy h tis prosboles twn koinotikwn diplwmatwn eyresitexnias apo to Koinotiko Dikasthrio, sto Loyjemboyrgo. To Eyrwpaiko Grafeio kai ta eqnika grafeia diplwmatwn eyresitexnias qa synergazontai, wste na epitygxanetai ejyphrethsh twn efeyretwn kai twn katoxwn diplwmatwn eyresitexnias, diaxysh twn plhroforiwn k.t.l. Me ayto to qesmo, ayjanetai pleon o baqmos enopoihshs ths eswterikhs agoras ths E.E., idiaitera ston tomea ths texnologias. Kyriws oi mikromesaies epixeirhseis, me mia aplh aithsh, apoktoyn apeyqeias prostasia sthn agora twn 25 (ayrio) kratwn-melwn. To kostos gia thn katoxyrwsh twn efeyresewn kai twn kainotomiwn meiwnetai. Giati mexri twra oi epixeirhseis eprepe na metafrazoyn to synolo toy diplwmatos eyresitexnias stis glwsses twn kratwn-melwn, enw twra qa metafrazoyn mono tis ajiwseis kai epomenws, qa exoyme kai ena poly mikrotero kostos. Ejalloy, me th dhmioyrgia eniaioy kentrikoy dikasthrioy, epitygxanetai omogenopoihsh ths nomologias kai megalyterh asfaleia dikaioy gia oloys toys endiaferomenoys. H Epitroph qa prosarmosei to sxedio kanonismoy poy eixe katartisei to 2000 me bash tis arxes ths politikhs symfwnias. Qa to ypobalei sto Symboylio Antagwnistikothtas kai entos toy 2003 qa egkriqei. Parallhla qa arxisoyn oi diadikasies gia th sygkrothsh toy Koinotikoy Dikasthrioy Diplwmatwn Eyresitexnias, to opoio qa teqei se plhrh leitoyrgia to 2010, symboliko etos gia toys stoxoys antagwnistikothtas ths Eyrwphs.

H qesmoqethsh toy KDE den katargei ta eqnika diplwmata eyresitexnias. Ayta mporei na synexisoyn na yparxoyn gia osoys efeyretes epiqymoyn thn prostasia twn efeyresewn toys se mikro ariqmo xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. Yparxei, loipon, ena poly shmantiko bhma poy ginetai apo th ellhnikh Proedria gia tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis kai enisxyei idiaitera th leitoyrgia ths eniaias eyrwpaikhs agoras kai thn antagwnistikothta ths E.E. Prepei na sas pw oti gia thn epiteyjh ths telikhs symfwnias xreiasthke na ginei kai thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedreyonta toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Italias Silbio Mperloyskoni. O k. Shmiths parenebh pros ton k. Mperloyskoni, wste h Italia na aposyrei tis antirrhseis poy eixe kai telika na mporesoyme na fqasoyme s@ ayth thn pragmati shmantikh ejelijh gia thn ellhnikh Proedria.

Prin apo ligo me episkefqhkan oi Proedroi kai oi Grammateis twn Neolaiwn toy PASOK, ths N.D., toy SYN kai toy DHKKI kai eqesan qemata poy aforoyn thn poiothta ths enhmerwshs, kaqws kai mia seira protasewn kai apocewn gyrw apo ayta ta zhthmata.

Toys enhmerwsa, kat` arxas, gia th doyleia toy Ypoyrgeioy kai anaferqhka se tessera zhthmata:

Prwton, oti o kwdikas deontologias gia tis enhmerwtikes ekpompes tiqetai, poly syntoma, se isxy. Ayth th stigmh, ginetai h epejergasia, me bash tis telikes parathrhseis toy StE. O kwdikas exei epistrecei kai qa ypoblhqei, meta apo th qesh toy ESR, ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia thn telikh ypografh.

Deyteron, oti yioqetw th syllogistikh toys gia thn anagkh mh probolhs diafhmisewn kata th diarkeia twn eidhseografikwn deltiwn. Ayto, omws, einai ena qema poy prepei na syzhthsoyme kai me to ESR, to opoio, opws exei dhlwsei o k. Laskaridhs, epejergazetai enan kwdika gia tis diafhmiseis sthn thleorash kai oxi sto radiofwno. H syllogistikh toys, omws -opws dhlwsame- einai se orqh kateyqynsh.

Triton, epishmaname ws Ypoyrgeio oti xreiazetai na epanelqoyn protaseis, poy eixan ginei palaiotera apo orismenoys dieyqyntes eidhsewn, gia thn aytodesmeysh twn kanaliwn, wste na arxizoyn thn idia wra kai na exoyn thn idia diarkeia gia na mhn metatrepontai se "sooy". Einai mia protash poy ajizei na syzhthqei. Hdh, orismena kanalia exoyn kanei ayth thn prosarmogh kai nomizw oti kai ta alla, kalo qa htan na akoloyqhsoyn. Ayto einai, omws, diko toys qema.

Tetarton, sto plaisio mias doyleias poy etoimazei to Ypoyrgeio Typoy gia dialogo, na teqei to erwthma gyrw apo thn yparjh metrhsewn, kata th diarkeia twn deltiwn eidhsewn. Ayto einai ena qema poy prepei na syzhthqei kai desmeyqhkame na einai anamesa sta zhthmata poy qa teqoyn gia dialogo sto ergoy poy etoimazei to Ypoyrgeio Typoy gia kwdikes, metrhseis kai dhmoskophseis.

Ayta einai ta tessera qemata sta opoia katalhjame, ws Ypoyrgeio Typoy, kai anakoinwsame pros tis tesseris Neolaies, kata to dialogo poy egine. Gia tis apoceis twn Neolaiwn, den eimai egw armodios na milhsw.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw: Htan dikh toys h prwtoboylia, htan twn kommatwn; Poia htan h aformh poy jekinhse, se ayth th sygkekrimenh fash, ayth h prwtoboylia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws gnwston, aformh htan mia apofash twn tessarwn Neolaiwn na zhthsoyn ayrio kapoio "mpoikotaz" sta deltia eidhsewn kai thn thleorash genikotera kai na steiloyn kapoies diamartyries. Sto plaisio ayths ths prwtoboylias poy oi idioi apofasisan, zhthsan na exoyn synanthseis me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ton Proedro ths Boylhs, ton Ypoyrgo Typoy kai ton Proedro toy ESR. Den qelw na pw egw ti eipan, ayto qa to poyn oi idioi, alla na pw oti apodexqhka eyxaristws to aithma twn Neolaiwn gia synanthsh. Eixame pragmatika enan ploysio kai epoikodomhtiko dialogo. Apo th dikh mas pleyra, epishmaname ta tessera shmeia sta opoia anaferqhka.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh exei probei se polles dhlwseis apo tis 29 Ioynioy(einai dhlwseis twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn kai dikes sas), oti exei syllabei th 17N kai thn exei parapemcei sto dikasthrio, opoy xqes jekinhse h dikh. Shmera diabazoyme oti o k. Miler qewrei oti einai mono o ektelestikos kormos ths 17N sth dikh. H kybernhsh ti apanta se ayth thn parathrhsh h anafora toy amerikanoy presbh sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Miler gia na exoyme thn akribh dhlwsh toy, gyrw apo an exoyn apodoqei swsta h oxi oi dhlwseis toy. Kratw kapoia epifylajh, alla, se periptwsh poy exoyn apodoqei swsta, qelw na epishmanw dyo pragmata: To prwto einai oti o k. Miler mexri prin apo liges hmeres edine sygxarhthria sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, gia th syllhch kai ejarqrwsh ths 17N. Den einai dynato ayta na allajan, mesa se liges hmeres. Deyteron, o k. Miler qa eprepe na gnwrizei oti apo th stigmh poy arxise h dikh kai proxwrei h akroamatikh diadikasia, ekei apodeiknyontai ola. Kai qa eprepe na exei thn ypomonh -efoson endiaferetai- na parakoloyqhsei thn akroamatikh diadikasia, na dei tis apokalyceis poy qa yparjoyn, na parei tis apanthseis poy zhtoyn kai oi Ellhnes polites kai na enhmerwqei gia th drash ths 17N, alla kai gia tis tyxon eyqynes kaqe kathgoroymenoy kai gia tis egklhmatikes energeies. O k. Miler den prepei na biazetai kai den prepei na allazei tis dhlwseis toy.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti o k. Miler edine sygxarhthria mexri prin liges hmeres kai twra den einai dynaton na allazei stash. Apodidete kapoia skopimothta se ayth thn taktikh toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw to eipa.

MIXAHL: O k. Miler leei oti den mporesan oi ellhnikes kybernhseis na syllaboyn ola ayta ta xronia th 17N giati htan diefqarmenes kai oi mhxanismoi toys kai oi idies.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Miler allazei tis dhlwseis toy, ean -epanalambanw-aytes exoyn apodoqei swsta. Ara, se ayto to shmeio -ean telikws ta eipe- yparxei ej antikeimenoy ena meizon qema ajiopistias. Epishs, o k. Miler prepei na jerei oti sthn Ellada leitoyrgoyn ola me apodeijeis kai stoixeia. Etsi aponemetai dikaiosynh. Kai, gi` ayto to logo, toy synistoyme na kanei ypomonh kai na perimenei thn akroamatikh diadikasia.

IWANNOY: O k. Miler kai genika oi amerikanikes arxes synergasthkan stena me tis ellhnikes arxes sto qema ths ejarqrwshs ths tromokratias. Qelw na sas rwthsw eyqews, ean pisteyete oti piezoyn gia peraiterw syllhceis, mesw aytwn twn dhlwsewn h ean yparxei kapoia allh politikh skopimothta. Kat` arxas, gia to qema twn syllhcewn, pisteyete oti mporei na yparjoyn kai alles syllhceis oi opoies den eginan h den ginontai; Jerei o k. Miler akribws ti exei ginei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw. Se telikh analysh den qa ejarthsoyme thn politikh mas apo to ti leei o alfa h o bhta h kapoios ekproswpos enos alloy kratoys. H Ellada einai kratos dikaioy. Yparxei to Syntagma kai oi nomoi poy throyntai. H leitoyrgia twn diwktikwn arxwn ginetai sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos, twn nomwn kai toy kratoys dikaioy. Yparxei plhrhs sebasmos sta dikaiwmata twn kathgoroymenwn. Opws fanhke kai apo tis xqesines apofaseis toy dikasthrioy proxwroyme se mia dikaih dikh. Eimaste yperhfanoi gia to systhma aponomhs dikaioy sthn Ellada.

IWANNOY: Oloi, omws, qa poyn oti kati parapanw jerei o k. Miler...

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios gnwrizei kati, as to pei! Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean exoyn apodoqei h oxi swsta oi dhlwseis toy k. Miler protiqetai h kybernhsh, estw kai mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy, na kanei mia systash ston k. Miler oti den prepei na anameignyetai sta eswterika problhmata ths Elladas kai idiaitera otan ayta ta qemata einai sth dikaiosynh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferqhka hdh sto qema. Perimenete na ginei h sxetikh diereynhsh kai qa epanelqoyme.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Shmera oi ekproswpoi toy tews eisprattoyn ta xrhmata ths apozhmiwshs. Pws qa ton symboyleyate na ependysei ayta ta xrhmata poy einai toy ellhnikoy laoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den perimenete, fantazomai, na sas apanthsw.

GARGALAKOS: H xqesinh synanthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton tews ekproswpo Typoy k. Pantagia exei na kanei me thn ypochfiothta toy sth B` Peiraia kai ean den exei na kanei me ayto to antikeimeno, tote giati egine;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me opoion epiqymei. Ayto einai anafaireto dikaiwma kaqe polith, poso mallon toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Oson afora to erwthma sas, exoyme topoqethqei kat` epanalhch.

KARGOYDH: Bebaiws kai einai anafaireto dikaiwma toy Prwqypoyrgoy na blepei opoion qelei. Alla, epeidh einai Prwqypoyrgos kai epeidh pro elaxistoy xronikoy diasthmatos dhmioyrghqhke meizon politiko qema apo thn apomakrynsh h thn paraithsh toy k. Pantagia, nomizw oti den mporei na menei sto epipedo mias koinwnikhs epafhs, xwris politikoy periexomenoy ejhghseis. Ayth thn entypwsh exw, alliws o kaqeis eikazei o,ti qelei.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei dikaiwma na synanthsei opoion epiqymei kai ayto to dikaiwma den mporei na toy to afairesei kaneis. Apo ekei kai pera, o k. Pantagias zhthse mia synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai o Prwqypoyrgos ektimhse oti prepei na thn pragmatopoihsei.

IWANNOY: Epeidh diabasame oti den sas enhmerwse ston prwino kafe gi` ayto to ranteboy, htan dhladh kaqara koinwniko; Dhladh, ws filoi breqhkan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas enhmerwnw gia tis synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy paroysiazoyn genikotero politiko endiaferon.

POYLIDOY: Tinos prwtoboylia htan h synanthsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Htan aithma toy k. Pantagia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Meta to epeisodio sth Nea Yorkh, an den kanw laqos me ton kaqhghth k. Aggelopoylo kai tis proxqesines dhlwseis toy presbeyth, yparxei kapoia skia sthn agasth synergasia poy eixan mexri twra oi dyo pleyres sto qema ths tromokratias; Exei allajei kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo emas den yparxei kanena qema. Me thn eykairia poy moy dinete, qa xarakthrisw asteiothtes ayta poy eipwqhkan apo orismenoys peri dhqen episkechs Amerikanwn eidikwn gia elegxo sto xwro toy dikasthrioy. Ayta einai asteiothtes, einai apo tis gnwstes grafikes yperboles poy legontai kai apo sygkekrimeno kyklo aytes tis hmeres.

MIXAHL: O idios o Koyfontinas to eipe.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to eipe monon eis ek twn kathgoroymenwn. To meteferan kai to yioqethsan kai alloi.

MIXAHL: To jerw.

PRWTOPAPAS: To jerw oti toys jerete.

SOYGLERHS: Qelw thn katanohsh sas na kanw mia erwthsh me aformh tis dhlwseis toy proponhtoy ths AEK k. Mpagiebits, mas endiaferei giati exei kai politikes proektaseis, kata thn krish moy. Sto mats me ton OFH, sth Filadelfeia, eipe oti kapoioi apeiloyn th zwh toy kai qa skotwsei kapoion. Qa hqela ena sxolio, giati nomizw oti mexri shmera h Politeia den exei parembei gia na parei kapoia qesh. Se paromoia peristatika sto parelqon, eixame kapoies@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai qema toy eisaggelea. Kai ektimw oti den kanw laqos.

GIANNISHS: Katateqhke xqes sth Boylh tropologia, h opoia problepei thn paraxwrhsh toy Stadioy Karaiskakh ston Olympiako Peiraiws gia 49 xronia. Protiqetai h kybernhsh na epekteinei to qema ths kataskeyhs ghpedwn kai se alloys syllogoys toy kentroy h ths perifereias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, yparxoyn ghpeda poy xrhsimopoioyn polloi syllogoi ths perifereias, ta opoia anhkoyn sto kratos. Kataskeyazontai polla, alla anakataskeyazontai, epidiorqwnontai palaia ghpeda, opws to Kaytantzogleio k.o.k. Ayta ta ghpeda anhkoyn sto kratos. H periptwsh toy Stadioy Karaiskakh afora paraxwrhsh gia anakataskeyh me ejoda idiwth. Me idioys oroys kai proypoqeseis mporei na ginei syzhthsh kai me alloys syllogoys, opws einai o Panaqhnaikos poy exei qesei ena qema, alla kai alloi. Kai bebaia, panta me ton periorismo oti to kratos den qa katabalei xrhmata gia th dhmioyrgia aytwn twn ghpedwn. Kata ta alla, exoyme kaqe kalh proqesh na bohqhsoyme syllogoys poy epiqymoyn na apokthsoyn kalyteroys aqlhtikoys xwroys kai na mporesoyn na proagoyn to aqlhma, alla panta me ayth thn airesh, oti den qa yparxei xrhmatodothsh apo ton kratiko proypologismo, aplo to kratos genikotera.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H erwthsh toy synadelfoy, ennoei oti sto Stadio Karaiskakh, ektos apo ton Olympiako, exei dikaiwmata kai malista perissotera toy Olympiakoy, o Eqnikos. Dierwtwmai to ejhs: An se ayth th symfwnia twn 49 etwn poy exei kanei o Olympiakos, symperilambanetai oti qa exei dikaiwma na agwnizetai sto ghpedo ayto, poy einai dikaiwmatika kai diko toy, o Eqnikos Peiraiws.

PRWTOPAPAS: To ghpedo einai ths Epitrophs Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Alla, peran aytoy, opws jerete, to ghpedo den mporei na leitoyrghsei. Einai pantelws jeperasmeno.

GIANNISHS: Sthn protash toy Panaqhnaikoy, en prokeimenw, problepetai h katedafish kapoiwn dhmosiwn ktiriwn. Einai diateqeimeno to kratos ypo ayth thn ennoia na syndramei sthn apomakrynsh@

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Lianhs, ws armodios yfypoyrgos, kai o k. Benizelos ws proistamenos ypoyrgos exoyn pei oti antimetwpizoyn aithmata kai apo tis alles megales omades kai apo ton Panaqhnaiko bebaiws gia ejeyresh lyshs sta qemata ths anabaqmishs twn ghpedikwn egkatastasewn kai poly kala kanoyn. Den mporw ayth th stigmh na mpw se leptomereies, alla sas lew genika oti meletame me qetiko pneyma ta sxetika aithmata, panta, omws, me thn aparaithth proypoqesh oti to kratos den qa katabalei xrhmata.

Qelw, epishs, na kanw mia dhlwsh: Qelw na epishmanw oti meta thn yparjh twn prwtwn mikroproblhmatwn kai thn taktopoihsh toys, opws gnwrizete, gyrw apo th diejagwgh ths dikhs, ayth th stigmh ola ejelissontai omala. H dikh diejagetai kanonika. Yparxei kai h sxetikh dhlwsh toy k. Sompoloy, sthn opoia anaferqhka arxika, oti ola ta aithmata poy eixe qesei h ESHEA exoyn ikanopoihqei, se plhrh synennohsh me to ypoyrgeio Typoy. Bebaiws, paramenei to qema ths metadoshs ths dikhs, poy qa krinei fysika to dikasthrio. Kanenas allos den mporei na to krinei. Epomenws, exoyme mia omala ejelissomenh diadikasia. Olos o ellhnikos laos gnwrizei ti diadramatizetai ekei. Yparxei plhrhs enhmerwsh twn politwn kai plhrhs diafaneia stis diadikasies ths dikhs, plhrhs dhmosiothta gia ola osa legontai h ginontai ekei. Tonizw idiaitera oti h xqesinh apofash toy dikasthrioy deixnei oti ayto to opoio eixame pei oti oi kathgoroymenoi odhgoyntai se mia dikaih dikh einai pragmatikothta. To dikasthrio apedeije oti oi qesmoi sthn Ellada leitoyrgoyn me plhrh kai anejarthto tropo, oti h dikaiosynh leitoyrgei amerolhpta, oti briskei lyseis kai oti se kaqe periptwsh symballei, wste oloi oi polites na exoyn thn aisqhsh oti ayth h poly sobarh ypoqesh poy talanise gia 30 xronia thn ellhnikh koinwnia, diejagetai me enan idiaitera acogo, dikaio kai swsto tropo, sto pneyma toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn mas. Kai mporoyme na eimaste bebaioi kai gia thn plhrh apokalych olwn twn aitiwn toy fainomenoy ths tromokratias, ths drashs ths "17N", twn tyxon eyqynwn twn kathgoroymenwn kai gia th dikaih aponomh ths dikaiosynhs. Ayto qa prepei na epishmanqei apo oloys mas.

Ayrio (5/3) h politikh enhmerwsh qa pragmatopoihqei stis 14.00, logw ths gnwsths ethsias ekdhlwshs gia th brabeysh twn dhmosiografwn apo to Idryma Mpotsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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