Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-11-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Noembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai xronia polla se oses kai osoys giortazoyn.

O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, brisketai shmera sto Berolino, opoy qa exei synanthsh me to Germano Kagkelario k. Srenter. Amesws meta, qa ginoyn dhlwseis.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sxoliasete thn paranomh episkech toy k. Erntogan sta katexomena, prokeimenoy na parastei stis eortastikes ekdhlwseis gia thn anakhryjh toy ceydokratoys Ntenktas, stis 13 Noembrioy. H kypriakh kybernhsh, epishma, epekrine ayth thn kinhsh. Qa hqela, epishs, na sxoliasete th nea toyrkikh proklhsh, thn parenoxlhsh dyo epibatikwn aeroskafwn, to ena twn Makedonikwn Aerogrammwn kai to allo twn Kypriakwn Aerogrammwn, ta opoia ekteloysan dromologia apo kai pros thn Kypro;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora, to deytero exoyn ginei oles oi anagkaies kinhseis, diabhmata, diamartyries, toso pros ton ICAO, oso kai pros to toyrkiko kratos, mesw toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, me ton pio entono tropo. Shmeiwnw kai pali oti, epeidh eimaste se mia poly eyaisqhth periodo -idiaitera enocei ths anamenomenhs protashs toy G.G. toy OHE k. Kofi Anan gia to Kypriako, alla kai ths diadikasias ths Kopegxaghs- prepei na katanooyme oti einai logiko na yparxoyn diafores kinhseis apo toyrkikhs pleyras poy qa epiqymoyse na metaferqei o dialogos apo ta qemata oysias, apo ta qemata poy aforoyn pragmatika toys dyo laoys, alla kai oloklhrh th dieqnh koinothta, se deytereyonta zhthmata. Pagia politikh mas, ton teleytaio kairo, einai na exoyme monima strammenh thn prosoxh, to endiaferon kai th doyleia mas sta prwteyonta zhthmata. Kai ayta einai: H entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E. kai h lysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. Epeidh, loipon, eimaste akribws se ayth thn eyaisqhth periodo, protimoyme na synexisoyme th strathgikh mas. Bebaiws, oi anagkaies kinhseis diamartyrias ginontai kai katagrafontai, alla to metwpo mas einai strammeno sta sobara qemata, ekei poy krinetai h poreia twn eqnikwn qematwn mas, ekei poy krinontai ta meizona qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas. To kalytero, loipon, poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na synexisoyme na exoyme staqera strammeno to endiaferon mas sta prwteyonta zhthmata, kanontas panta tis anagkaies diplwmatikes kai alles kinhseis kai na mhn parasyromaste, wste na anagoyme ta deytereyonta, opws piqanon epidiwkoyn orismenoi -kai to tonizw ayto- ws prwteyonta.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, bebaiws typika oloi katagrafoyme thn antiqesh mas. Qelw, omws, na tonisw oti ayto einai ena synhqes fainomeno. Einai gnwsto oti h ekastote toyrkikh hgesia, alla kai arxhgoi kommatwn, opws o k. Erntogan, episkeptontai ta katexomena. Bebaiws, epeidh prokeitai gia katexomena, se kaqe periptwsh, orqws kanoyme -kai h kypriakh kybernhsh kai emeis- kai katagrafoyme thn antiqesh mas. Tonizw omws kai pali oti to metwpo mas einai panta strammeno sta kyriarxa kai prwteyonta zhthmata. Ekei einai to qema. O k. Erntogan qa erqei kai sthn Aqhna kai qa exoyme thn eykairia na syzhthsoyme mazi toy, ta qemata ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths Toyrkias, to Kypriako kai isws kai alla qemata.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Poios htan o logos poy den shkwqhkan, xqes, ellhnika maxhtika, prokeimenoy na anaxaitisoyn ta toyrkika aeroskafh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Panta ginontai ayta. Fysiko einai otan ena toyrkiko maxhtiko h kapoios parenoxlei ena politiko aeroplano, panta yparxei mia xronikh diafora. Se kaqe periptwsh, eginan oi anagkaies kinhseis apo tis ellhnikes enoples dynameis, apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn shmera kai apo thn Yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias pros ton ICAO. Qelw na epishmanw oti orismenoi -kai mesa sthn Toyrkia- piqanon na epidiwkoyn na strafei h syzhthsh apo ta prwteyonta zhthmata poy einai h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. kai h epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths, sta deytereyonta qemata poy oi idioi dhmioyrgoyn. Den qa toys kanoyme th xarh. Gnwrizoyme poly kala poy epilegoyme na dwsoyme tis maxes mas gia na einai apotelesmatikes kai nikhfores.

KARGOYDH: Xqes, o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias dhlwse oti piqanon qa htan skopimo h kataqesh toy sxedioy gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy na metateqei, meta tis ekloges sthn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Eseis, apo politikh apoch, pws ektimate ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipe akribws ayto. Se syzhthsh poy eixe me dhmosiografoys eipe oti kalo qa htan na mhn emplakoyn ta problhmata poy, se kaqe kratos, dhmioyrgoyntai, kata thn proeklogikh periodo, me ena meizon eqniko qema, opws einai to Kypriako. Ayto ws diapistwsh h ws eyxh. Ayto den shmainei oti o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Glaykos Klhridhs den dinei olo to anagkaio baros stis ejelijeis kai den diamorfwnei tis ejelijeis me tis parembaseis toy sth dieqnh koinothta, wste na odhghsoyn sto zhtoymeno, poy einai mia swsth lysh toy Kypriakoy. Kaqe allo. Ara, loipon, einai diaforetiko mia diapistwsh gia th mh emplokh enos meizonos eqnikoy problhmatos se qemata eklogwn kai diaforetikh h doyleia poy ginetai kai apo thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai ton Proedro Klhridh -bebaiws kai me th symbolh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs- wste na strafei h koinh gnwmh ths dieqnoys koinothtas yper twn apocewn mas. Einai safes oti h kypriakh kybernhsh (opws gnwrizete, giati yphrje xqes epikoinwnia toy Proedroy Klhridh me ton Prwqypoyrgo) kanei oles tis anagkaies kinhseis akomh kai ligo prin apo thn kataqesh toy sxetikoy sxedioy -opws legetai - wste se kaqe periptwsh na yperaspizetai ta eqnika symferonta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Se ayth thn thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy k. Shmith me ton k. Klhridh yphrje kati kainoyrgio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Ejalloy, to teleytaio diasthma, alla kai apo edw kai pera, aytes oi epikoinwnies qa einai sxedon kaqhmerines.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh o Prwqypoyrgos brisketai sthn Eyrwph kai eixe synanthseis me ton k. Sirak@

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa enhmerwsei ton Proedro Klhridh gia ola ta apotelesmata twn synanthsewn, opws ton enhmerwnei synexeia. Pisteyw oti kai meta th synanthsh toy me ton k. Srenter qa ton enhmerwsei. Qa ginontai synexeis synennohseis toy Kyprioy Proedroy me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

KOTTARIDHS: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo thn eikona poy paroysiase, gia tetarth fora, mesa se tesseris mhnes, h Aqhna, meta th xqesinh neroponth; Epishs, qa hqela ena sxolio gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios metebh ston Khfiso.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas apanthsw eniaia. Kai xqes, den apofygame ta problhmata, paroti eixan lhfqei polla kai sobara metra, paroti xarh sta metra ayta, apofygame thn ekdhlwsh sobaroterwn problhmatwn. Eixe ginei mia poly sobarh kai oysiastikh doyleia. Ayto to anagnwrizoyn oloi. Qelw na anaferqw se dhlwseis twn dhmarxwn ths perioxhs. Yphrje allwste kai epikoinwnia toy dhmarxoy Peiraia Xrhstoy Agrapidh me thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, o opoios ejefrase thn ikanopoihsh toy gia thn proetoimasia poy eixe ginei sthn perioxh toy N. Falhroy. Analoges epishmanseis akoysame shmera, se radiofwnikoys staqmoys, kai apo alloys dhmarxoys. Ara, loipon, eixan lhfqei metra, eixe ginei mia poly sobarh doyleia. Yphrje mia astoxia se mia ergolabia, h opoia odhghse sth dhmioyrgia kapoiwn problhmatwn. Ti qa ginei, loipon, gia to sygkekrimeno; Bebaiws, prepei kat` arxas na apodoqoyn eyqynes kai sthn ergolhptria etairia kai stoys epiblepontes mhxanikoys toy YPEXWDE, opws akribws dhlwse xqes h ka Basw Papandreoy. Apo ekei kai pera, se kaqe periptwsh, h doyleia synexizetai, o agwnas aytos synexizetai. To prwi, o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn K. Skandalidhs htan pali sthn perioxh toy Khfisoy. Lambanontai ola ta anagkaia metra gia to endexomeno allwn entonwn kairikwn fainomenwn. Yparxei to sxedio ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias. Yparxei ena sxedio kai 400 anqrwpoi poy kaloyntai na einai monima ekei gia thn ektelesh toy. Na eiste bebaioi oti qa katabaloyme kaqe dynath prospaqeia, wste to sxedio ayto na ginei prajh kai na apofygoyme alla problhmata. Se kaqe periptwsh, qelw na qymisw oti peripoy 550 xiliometra rematwn einai skepasmena sthn Attikh kai prokaloyn problhmata sthn ekroh twn ydatwn. Epishs, qelw na qymisw oti yparxoyn synexh entona kairika fainomena poy, otan den yparxei allh diejodos, para mono o Khfisos, mas odhgoyn se katastash synagermoy. Anagnwrisa, bebaiws, kata th diarkeia ths parembashs moy, tis eyqynes gia ta problhmata poy yphrjan xqes sto sygkekrimeno shmeio toy Khfisoy, sto Mosxato. Se ola ayta, apantame me th doyleia mas kai ta erga mas. Ekeino poy xreiazetai se ayth thn periptwsh einai na anagnwrisei kai kapoios th sobarh doyleia poy exei ginei, thn prospaqeia poy kataballetai, thn prospaqeia poy katablhqhke akomh kai xqes. Den prosferontai ayta ta zhthmata gia mikrokommatikh ekmetalleysh. Qelw me thn eykairia na pw oti ekqetei th xwra ayth h topoqethsh toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, xqes, pros ton k. Osbalnt. Kai egw den xarhka epeidh apanthse pros ton k. Karamanlh, o k. Osbalnt me ena apolyta fysiologiko, gia ton opoiodhpote polith, tropo. Erxetai enas jenos paragontas na mas balei sth qesh mas; Ayto pisteyw oti den einai swsto kai den einai swsto gia kanenan. H apanthsh toy k. Osbalnt htan oti den mporoyme na prolaboyme ta idiaitera akraia kai entona kairika fainomena. Ti na kanoyme; Egw den eipa "ti na kanoyme". Egw anagnwrisa eyqynes. Eipa oti qa apodoqoyn eyqynes. Alla, na anagnwristei oti exei ginei mia poly sobarh doyleia kai oti yparxoyn kai dedomena problhmata. Pentakosia penhnta xiliometra rematwn skepasthkan. Kai den nomizw oti ftaiei h shmerinh kybernhsh poy skepasthkan ayta ta remata.

MIXAHL: Eseis shmera kai xqes -to idio kai h ka Papandreoy- akoysa na lete oti qa apodoqoyn eyqynes sthn ergolhptria etairia kai stoys epiblepontes mhxanikoys toy YPEXWDE. Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayto akoygetai ligo perierga kai qa sas pw giati: Ean ypoqesoyme oti h ergolhptria etairia, ontws exei eyqynes kai prepei na ths apodoqoyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to sygkekrimeno shmeio...

MIXAHL: Pantote gia to sygkekrimeno shmeio milw. Jerete ti mporei na prokycei; H etairia ti mporei na ypostei; Na xasei thn ergolabia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, den eipa ayto.

MIXAHL: Tote;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kai alla. Diabaste ti problepei to poinologio gi` aytes tis periptwseis. Den einai mono h ekptwsh. To poinologio jekina apo prostima.

MIXAHL: Ean ftasoyme gia tetarth fora h idia etairia, sto idio shmeio, na kanei ta idia laqh, to ergo den qa ginei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gi` ayto, akribws, den milhsa gia ekptwsh. Milhsa gia eyqynes. Symfwna me toys kwdikes kai toys nomoys poy yparxoyn, problepontai kai alles poines.

ALEJAKHS: Gia ta 550 xiliometra skepasmenwn rematwn sthn Attikh poy eipate, epeidh ta fainomena ayta profanws qa janasymboyn kai shmera kai ayrio, ti sxediasmos yparxei apo th stigmh poy blepoyme oti kai logw twn megalwn ergwn, Attikhs Odoy, aerodromioy, Eqnikhs Odoy poy anaptyssetai, se ena xrono isws na breqoyme...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qeloyme na kryboyme thn alhqeia. Yparxei enas oloklhrwmenos sxediasmos toy YPEXWDE poy ton exei paroysiasei h ka Basw Papandreoy. Alla, gia na ylopoihqei aytos o oloklhrwmenos sxediasmos, apaitoyntai ekatontades disekatommyriwn. Stadiaka kai ejantlwntas tis dynatothtes poy yparxoyn, qa proxwroyme. Alla, aytos o oloklhrwmenos sxediasmos poy exei ginei, proypoqetei kai poroys poy se mia xronikh stigmh, piqanws na mhn einai dynato na katablhqoyn. Ara, prepei na proxwroyme stadiaka, na anabaqmizoyme th doyleia mas, na prospaqoyme perissotero. Kai sthn prospaqeia ayth na eimaste oloi parontes. Ayto epixeiroyme na kanoyme. Kai epanalambanw oti milw gia ton kentriko sxediasmo, gia ton panattiko sxediasmo kai oxi gia thn perioxh toy Mosxatoy, gia na mhn yparjei kamia parejhghsh.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn, omws, kai kapoies alles energeies poy den exei kanei to kratos kai oi yphresies toy gia toys plhmmyropaqeis, poy tesseris fores exoyn plhmmyrhsei. Tis prohgoymenes treis fores toys yposxeqhkate kapoia xrhmata. Kai sas to lew, giati kai egw to prwi akoysa kai genikws yparxei ayto, oti oi plhmmyropaqeis ekei sto Mosxato kai sto N. Falhro exoyn parei to 30% poy einai h kratikh epixorhghsh, alla to 70% poy einai to atoko daneio akoma to caxnoyn sta xartia, stis yphresies. Den exei doqei akomh, enw exoyn kataqesei ta dikaiologhtika.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mexri xqes, ginotan kritikh sto ryqmo poy kinhqhke o kratikos mhxanismos, twra, se sxesh me ta daneia. Gnwrizete oti prepei na kinhqoyn kai alles yphresies. Qa ginei kai ayto. Einai logiko, alla den ejartatai mono apo mas. Prospaqoyme, lambanoyme ta anagkaia metra gia na ginei poly grhgora.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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