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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Oktwbrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase, shmera, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai ellhnikhs Proedrias.

Sthn eisagwgikh toy parembash o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke stis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges, legontas ta ejhs:

"Qa hqela na kanw ena prwto kai syntomo sxolio stis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges. Oi ekloges krinontai apo ton politiko stoxo poy exei qesei kaqe komma. H N.D. eixe safestata, xwris amfibolia qesei ena stoxo: thn arnhsh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Eixe paroysiasei tis ekloges ws mia dhmochfismatikh diadikasia kai malista eixe epikentrwsei thn prosoxh ths -opws prokyptei kai apo dhlwseis toy arxhgoy ths- sthn Ypernomarxia Attikhs. Emeis eixame qesei ws stoxo thn enisxysh ths Aytodioikhshs kai aytos den einai enas kenos h prosxhmatikos logos. Giati, opws eixame tonisei polles fores, h Aytodioikhsh diadramatizei enan ayjhmeno rolo sthn pragmatopoihsh twn stoxwn ths xwras. Polles diadikasies ejartwntai apo th symmetoxh ths Aytodioikhshs kai ws ek toytoy emeis qeloyme mia Aytodioikhsh h opoia leitoyrgei kai apodidei. Gnwrizoyme oloi oti h prospaqeia ths N.D., to "steilte mhnyma" apetyxe. Apetyxe kai h prospaqeia, h opoia eixe thn phgh ths se polles pleyres, na ejanagkastei to PASOK se prowres ekloges. H apotyxia ayth einai mia epityxia gia mas. Einai, epishs, mia epityxia gia to qesmo ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, giati h diastreblwsh twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn den qa enisxye thn Aytodioikhsh, opws, epishs, kai h ypotimhsh ths shmasias ths mesa apo diadikasies krishs ths kybernhtikhs politikhs.

Htthqhke, loipon, h N.D., ws pros thn taktikh ths, ws pros thn epilogh ths akraths kommatikopoihshs, ths kata metwpon epiqeshs. Kai qa elega, epishs, ws pros to yfos, ybreologies, ws pros eykairiakes politikes, xrhsimopoihsan gia na apospasoyn ena pash qysia kalo apotelesma.

To PASOK krathse tis dynameis toy. Qelw na sas parapemcw se diafores ereynes h ektimhseis, oi opoies exoyn ginei. Opws deixnoyn kai oi apotimhseis aytes, oi diafores ws pros tis dhmoskophseis einai aisqhtes. H politikh eikona mas einai safws beltiwmenh. To symperasma einai oti h nikh gia tis eqnikes ekloges einai dynath. To PASOK exei dynamikh. Mporoyme na kerdisoyme tis epomenes ekloges gia tetarth fora. Exoyme tis proypoqeseis gi` ayto.

To deytero symperasma einai oti ayto poy htan h epidiwjh mas, enas isxyroteros rolos sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, prokyptei safestata apo tis ekloges aytes. Oi qesmikes parembaseis, tis opoies exoyme kanei sth leitoyrgia ths Aytodioikhshs, oi ayjhmenes armodiothtes, oi ayjhmenoi poroi, o "Kapodistrias" anedeijan ena neo rolo ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. Yparxei ayjhsh toy eidikoy ths baroys. Kai einai poly xarakthristiko oti 30 en energeia boyleytes, apo ola ta kommata, eqesan ypochfiothta gia qeseis nomarxwn kai dhmarxwn, kati to opoio oydepote allote eixe shmeiwqei.

Se aytes tis ekloges, epeidh akribws htan ekloges gia tis opoies epaize rolo h antilhch gia thn Aytodioikhsh kai oi anamones twn politwn se sxesh me thn Aytodioikhsh, eixe megalh shmasia kai h epilogh twn proswpwn. To eidame apo to apotelesma kai pisteyw oti h shmasia poy apodoqhke sta proswpa einai kati qetiko. Ejyphretei toys stoxoys gia mia enisxymenh Aytodioikhsh. Na exoyme gnwsh, to symperasma gia mas einai oti xreiazontai nea proswpa. Xreiazontai proswpa me ikanothtes, me gnwsh, me yfos poy elkyei toys polites.

Ayta ta dyo shmeia, ta opoia anefera prin einai ligo ws poly gnwsta. Alla yparxei kai ena trito shmeio: Einai h emfanish ths akrodejias. Lexqhke oti ayto einai ena tyxaio gegonos, oti einai ena parodiko epeisodio, to opoio den qa exei ayrio. Den pisteyw oti einai ena parodiko epeisodio. Bebaiws, kaneis den mporei na prodikasei me bebaiothta tis ejelijeis. Alla, mporoyme na parathrhsoyme mia staqerh tash. Aformh ths emfanishs ths akrodejias htan h xwris krithria oikeiopoihsh apo th N.D. twn pio asymbatwn apocewn, twn palinwdiwn se sxesh me ayta poy yposthrize, idiws oson afora thn ypochfiothta toy k. Tzannetakoy. Ayth einai h aformh. Yparxei, omws, kai mia aitia. Kai aitia einai h epi xronia elleich kaqarwn qesewn, oi prospaqeies tis opoies ekanan na prosetairistoyn thn akrodejia. Kai otan lew na prosetairistoyn, ennow to yfos ths, to logo ths, ton tropo antiparaqeshs me thn kybernhsh, ta epixeirhmata ths. H skech htan oti isws ekeinoi mporoysan na ajiopoihsoyn ta stoixeia ayta, alla to symperasma einai, koitazontas kai thn ejelijh ths N.D. ws pros to yfos, to logo, thn praktikh oti ta stoixeia ayta ajiopoioyn th N.D.. Yparxei enas akratos laikismos, enas akratos eqnikismos, yparxei arnhsh ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs se polloys, to kratos twn syntexniwn, twn organwmenwn omadwn pieshs kai epishs enos ceytikoy koinwnikoy proswpoy poy apeyqynetai mono se pelateiaka diktya. Ayto to fainomeno, to opoio yphrxe syrriknwmeno, diogkwqhke me th sygkalych, qa elega, ths N.D. kai oi ekloges aytes apokalycan oti ayth h taktikh htan arnhtikh gia to synolo toy politikoy systhmatos, dioti aytoi, opws o k. Karatzaferhs, yphrxan stis grammes ths aparallaktoi edw kai xronia, kai emfanisthkan kai aparallaktoi na presbeyoyn dhmosiws, staqera kai me dynamh ta idia pragmata. H ejelijh ayth bebaia einai arnhtikh. To skhniko, omws, kata kapoio tropo ginetai ayqentiko, parakoloyqoyme pia anoikta tis ejelijeis.

Kai pisteyw oti h N.D. prepei na analabei tis eyqynes ths, na antiparateqei oxi mono ston k. Karatzaferh ws atomo, alla kyriws -kai ayto exei endiaferon- sto logo toy, stis praktikes, sta synqhmata toy, ston kwdika toy, se oloys aytoys poy aspazontan kai aspazontai to politiko kai politismiko mhnyma, to opoio ekfrazei. Kai den einai ligoi aytoi, einai arketoi kai briskontai stis grammes ths N.D..

Yparxei kai mia qewria oti ayto to fainomeno einai apotelesma ths anergias kai ths ftwxeias, oti prokeitai gia ena fainomeno koinwnikhs periqwriopoihshs. Exw polles amfibolies an ayto einai alhqes, giati koitazontas tis chfoys toy k. Karatzaferh, diapistwnei kaneis oti ta isxyra qylakia sthrijhs toy htan stoy Papagoy, sto P. Falhro, sto Cyxiko, sth Filoqeh kai den mporei na pei kaneis bebaia oti aytes oi perioxes einai qylakes anergias kai ftwxeias.

Yparxei kai ena tetarto shmeio. Eipa prin oti to apotelesma einai kalo, alla ayto den shmainei oti den qa qelame poly kalytero apotelesma, perissoteroys dhmoys, perissoteres nomarxies, poy na presbeyoyn, na einai konta stis qeseis mas gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, ychlotera pososta, paroysia sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh se olh thn Ellada. Qa qelame na mhn yparxoyn diafores, opws fainetai kai apo to eklogiko apotelesma, anamesa se perioxes ths xwras kai h aisqhsh oti yparxoyn dhqen diaforetikes metaxeiriseis dikaiologhmena h adikaiologhta. Jeroyme oti sth Qessalia kai sth Boreia Ellada, se agrotikes perioxes kai orismenoys nomoys paroysiasthkan mikres h megalyteres adynamies. Yparxei ena klima ysterhshs sthn perifereiakh anaptyjh, sthn perifereiakh katanomh twn porwn kai h aisqhsh se orismenoys oti den endiaferomaste.

Eipa kai to brady ths Kyriakhs oti prepei na analysoyme kaqe nomo, kaqe perifereia, kaqe dhmo, na entopisoyme ta aitia kai sth synexeia na ta antimetwpisoyme. Kai eimai ths gnwmhs oti den yparxei ena aplo symperasma, ena mhnyma gia to synolo ths xwras. Yparxoyn pollapla symperasmata kai gi` ayto den prepei na eimaste biastikoi. Einai fanero oti orismena fainomena xreiazontai prosoxh, alla den mporoyme na staqoyme se ayta an den ta melethsoyme. Kai anaferw endeiktika -epeidh ginetai diarkws mia parapomph sth Qessalia- oti sto nomo ths Larisas me enan ypochfio, o opoios eixe periorismenh anagnwrisimothta, giati htan h prwth fora poy paroysiazotan phrame peripoy to idio pososto sto chfodeltio toy, me ayto poy eixame parei ws komma stis eqnikes ekloges. Ayto shmainei oti par` oles tis kinhtopoihseis poy yphrxan den yphrje mia isxyrh ypoxwrhsh twn dynamewn poy syspeirwqhkan sto chfodeltio mas. Yparxoyn, loipon, kai alla aitia poy prepei na ta prosejoyme. Xreiazetai, bebaiws, na doqei idiaiterh prosoxh stis agrotikes perioxes. Na dwsoyme prosoxh, alla na dwsoyme prosoxh se oles tis aities, oi opoies yparxoyn.

Kai yparxei kai ena stoixeio poy qelw na anaferw oti apo olh thn eklogikh diadikasia proekyce oti yparxei kai arketh eswstrefeia sta topika politika systhmata. Yparxoyn proswpikes strathgikes, yparxei atomismos kai ola ayta den symbibazontai me thn epidiwjh mas na eimaste mia paratajh ananewshs kai allaghs, mia paratajh poy qelei allages sthn koinwnia kai gi` ayto den dexomaste pagiwmenoys mhxanismoys, oi opoioi den qeloyn na yparxei h proodos kai h ejelijh sthn koinwnia.

Ena deytero shmeio einai oti par` olo poy pisteyw oti yparxei gnwsh gia to ergo, yparxei mia elleich paroysias toy kommatos kai ths kybernhshs sthn perifereia, gia na symbaloyme sthn probolh aytoy toy ergoy.

To symperasma, loipon, einai -epeidh eipa kai prin oti ola einai anoixta, oti mporoyme na kerdisoyme tis ekloges- na katapiastoyme entatika me to ergo mas, na ginoyme perissotero apotelesmatikoi, na proxwrhsoyme se ola ta qemata, na doylecoyme, na petyxoyme edw kai twra perissotera kai kalytera, giati monon etsi qa kerdisoyme. Hqela na parakalesw se synarthsh me ayto to ejhs: Xreiazetai ena klima enothtas kai ayto exei idiaiterh shmasia. H N.D. eipame oti eixe ena stoxo na odhghsei se ena kaqestws apostaqeropoihshs ths kybernhtikhs poreias. Den to petyxe. Emeis, loipon, twra den prepei na katatribomaste se probolh diafwniwn, probolh eswkommatikhs diamaxhs, probolh diaforetikwn h proswpikwn antiparaqesewn. Prepei kai ayth th maxh ths enothtas se ayth th fash na thn kerdisoyme kai na deijoyme oti meletame swsta, analyoyme swsta ta apotelesmata kai den protrexoyme, eite me diafores protaseis, tis opoies den exoyme synolika melethsei, eite me diafores skeceis, tis opoies proballoyme, xwris na einai eyrytera apodektes sto xwro mas, eite tonizontas th mia h thn allh pleyra. Oles aytes oi syzhthseis prepei na ginoyn me hremia, sobarothta kai eyqynh mesa sta organa toy kinhmatos. Qelw na parakalesw oloys na dwsoyme idiaiterh shmasia se ayto to klima enothtas. Kai ayto xreiazetai kai gia enan allo logo. Giati pia h ejwterikh politikh, h entajh ths Kyproy, h dieyrynsh ths E.E., to Kypriako, h Proedria, h piqanh parembash sto Irak qa diadramatisoyn apo edw kai pera enan idiaitera barynonta logo."

Sth synexeia phre to logo o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Kwstas Skandalidhs, o opoios ekane enan apologismo gia thn poreia pros tis ekloges kai th diejagwgh toys, me epikentro th metarryqmish kai anasyntajh twn eklogikwn katalogwn. Anaferqhke se mia seira metrwn kai politikwn, opws oi eklogikoi katalogoi enocei twn boyleytikwn eklogwn toy 2004, oi opoioi prepei na einai kai qa einai poly pio leitoyrgikoi. Den qa exoyn diploeggegrammenoys. Qa exoyn eklogeis poy chfizoyn konta sthn katoikia toys, me oloklhrwsh ths eggrafhs twn paralhfqentwn, me peraiterw jekaqarisma apo metanastes, apoqanontes h alles eidikes kathgories. Enetaje sth genikoterh prospaqeia, gia th diamorfwsh toy eqnikoy dhmotologioy, thn anagkh na kalyfqoyn nomoqetika diadikasies kai problhmata poy exoyn epishmanqei. Stoxos einai h metarryqmish na jekina kai na oloklhrwnei th sxesh toy polith me to kratos, mesw ths taytothtas toy.

Eqese ws zhthma proteraiothtas -kai ayto einai ena kainoyrgio stoixeio- th diamorfwsh qesmikoy plaisioy, antistoixoy me ekeino twn eqnikwn eklogwn, gia ton elegxo esodwn kai dapanwn olwn twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn, tonizontas oti einai proklhtikh h katanalwsh twn xrhmatikwn poswn, oxi mono apo toys syndyasmoys, alla kai apo ypochfioys dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn chfodeltiwn se olh thn Ellada.

O Prwqypoyrgos kai sysswmo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio qewroyn shmantiko bhma thn acogh diejagwgh twn eklogwn apo ton ypoyrgo kai to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai symfwnhsan sta epomena bhmata, poy qa oloklhrwsoyn th metarryqmish, h opoia stis prwtes ejetaseis ths petyxe apolyta.

Sth synexeia, phre to logo o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy, o opoios anaferqhke kyriws sto Kypriako, alla kai sthn ellhnikh Proedria. Metajy allwn, o k. Papandreoy, se mia makra eishghsh toy, eipe oti proxwrei h entajh twn deka xwrwn me thn apofash ths E.E. Yparxei, bebaia, ena dyskolo qema -poy qa antimetwpisoyme kai sth Synodo Koryfhs stis Bryjelles- h syndesh me thn agrotikh metarryqmish kai to genikotero qema twn diarqrwtikwn tameiwn.

Oson afora to Kypriako, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn tonise oti den yparxei proapaitoymeno gia thn entajh. H lysh toy Kypriakoy. Bebaiws, einai protimhtea h epilysh toy Kypriakoy prin thn entajh. Kaneis den qa pei oxi se ayto. Eipe, epishs, oti th stigmh ths entajhs apo polloys mporei na egerqei mia syzhthsh gia oles tis ptyxes. Ara, prepei na prosexoyme ti qa proballoyme, wste na ajiologhqoyn qetika oi prospaqeies poy mexri twra exoyme katabalei -kai qa synexisoyme na kataballoyme- gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Symfwna me tis mexri twra apofaseis -kai ayth einai h poreia- h Kypros entassetai typika oloklhrh. Bebaiws, yparxei h anamenetai na yparjei mia kinhtikothta -xwris na einai apolyta bebaio ayto- gia to Kypriako, meta tis toyrkikes ekloges. Egine h synanthsh me ton k. Ntesoto, sthn opoia o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy tonise oti prepei na thrhqoyn oi arxes stis opoies kinoyntai oi apofaseis toy OHE. O k. Ntesoto diabebaiwse ton ypoyrgo oti, ean telika erqei protash, qa einai safws sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn epishmane oti den gnwrizei ean qa yparjei kapoia ejelijh -kai kaneis den to gnwrizei ayth th stigmh- poy qa odhghsei se apodoxh mias lyshs h oxi. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, qa sthrijoyme dynamika tis prwtoboylies toy Proedroy Klhridh kai ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, wste na mporesoyme, ean yparxei epilysh, na anadeixqei h shmasia enos istorikoy gegonotos gia thn perioxh, na dhmioyrghqei ena eyrytero klima staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs sthn eyaisqhth perioxh ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs. Se antiqeth periptwsh, einai safes -opws eipe o ypoyrgos- oti emeis proballontas panta tis apoceis kai thn kalh qelhsh mas gia na breqei lysh sto Kypriako, qa kinhqoyme idiaitera entona kai apofasistika sth lhch apofashs, sth Synodo ths Kopegxaghs, gia thn entajh kai ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, alla kai twn allwn ennea xwrwn sthn E.E. Tipota, omws -ypogrammise o k. Papandreoy- den ginetai aytomata, alla qelei poly kopo, megalo agwna, synexeis prospaqeies. Kai aytes, hdh, exoyn jekinhsei kai enteinontai -opws gnwrizete- sto epomeno diasthma.

O k. Papandreoy anaferqhke kai stis prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia thn entajh ths Toyrkias sthn E.E. Einai gnwsto, bebaia, oti yparxoyn dyskolies s` ayto kai oti qa prepei isws sthn arxh, na yparjei ena xronodiagramma ekplhrwshs twn ypoxrewsewn ths Toyrkias, enanti ths E.E. Isws na doqei mia hmeromhnia gia na kaqoristoyn kai oi parapera. Alla, se kaqe periptwsh, h ellhnikh kybernhsh perna ena qetiko mhnyma. Emeis qeloyme thn Toyrkia sthn E.E. kai symballoyme apofasistika sthn enisxysh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths.

Mas enhmerwse, epishs, oti yparxei mia prooptikh entajhs ths Boylgarias kai ths Roymanias to 2007, ean bebaiws ola badisoyn me bash tis yparxoyses probleceis kai oti kalo qa htan, me dedomenes tis mexri twra syzhthseis, na yparjei symfwnia gia thn anaqewrhsh kai th metarryqmish ths Koinhs Agrotikhs Politikhs, isws kai sth diarkeia ths ellhnikhs Proedrias kai prin th Synodo ths Qessalonikhs.

Gia ton eyrwstrato eipe oti, paroti yparxei mia kinhtikothta thn opoia epibebaiwse kai o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas G. Papantwnioy, den yparxei kati safes ayth th stigmh. Oi ypoloipoi Eyrwpaioi qeloyn na breqei kapoia lysh, h opoia einai safes oti qa brisketai sto plaisio twn apofasewn ths Sebillhs. Yparxei, omws, h adynamia ths Toyrkias, idiaitera enocei twn toyrkikwn eklogwn, na parei thn opoia eyqynh kai na odhghqoyme se telikes apofaseis.

Meta thn enhmerwsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, egine ploysia syzhthsh gia qemata poy aforoyn thn entajh ths Kyproy kai thn ellhnikh Proedria. Eidika gia thn ellhnikh Proedria, o ypoyrgos anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn Tasos Giannitshs anaferqhke analytika, tonizontas thn idiaiterh shmasia poy apokta to earino symboylio ths ellhnikhs Proedrias. Ypogrammise oti prepei na prowqhsoyme oles tis apofaseis poy lhfqhkan perysi sth Barkelwnh, oi opoies exoyn na kanoyn me politikes apasxolhshs, me koines politikes gia to asfalistiko, me tonwsh ths epixeirhmatikothtas, me th biwsimh anaptyjh, me thn ekpaideysh kai thn katartish. Epishs, me thn antilhch poy doyleyoyme, toso gia thn ellhnikh Proedria -eqese malista kai seira organwtikwn zhthmatwn syntonismoy ths doyleias twn ypoyrgeiwn- oso bebaiws kai gia thn koryfwsh ths, poy qa einai h Synodos ths Qessalonikhs.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Epi ths eishghshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia ta qemata poy aforoyn tis politikes ejelijeis meta tis dhmotikes ekloges, egine syzhthsh; Egine anafora, eite apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, eite apo ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas, eite apo ton ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias, gi` ayth thn istoria me to ploio, poy telika einai h den einai fantasma, kykloforei h den kykloforei; Kai akomh, ean ws xwra exoyme labei plhroforia oti epikeitai tromokratiko xtyphma kai an ola ayta ginontai gia ayth thn istoria;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema twn politikwn ejelijewn meta tis dhmotikes ekloges, den egine syzhthsh. H syzhthsh peristrafhke apokleistika, me polles topoqethseis kai deyterologies toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, sta qemata toy Kypriakoy kai ths Proedrias.

Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, o k. Anwmeriths ekane anafora sto qema -yparxei kai dhlwsh toy- kai eipe oti kanena ellhniko emporiko ploio den empleketai se tetoies ypoqeseis. Gia thn akribeia, opws gnwrizete- yparxei o oros symmaxikh "armada" -den jerw an einai dokimos, alla peri aytoy prokeitai- sthn opoia metexei kai h ellhnikh fregata "Mpoympoylina". En pash periptwsei, o stolos aytos exei kai ws stoxo na ereyna gia thn astynomeysh kai froyrhsh twn qalasswn. Exei kai enan katalogo ypoptwn ploiwn poy ofeilei na ereynhsei, ean yparjei opoiodhpote problhma. Mexri twra, omws, den exei tyxei kati sto "Mpoympoylina".

BITALHS: Eipate oti egine kai anafora sto qema toy eyrwstratoy. Qa hqela na rwthsw, yphrxe kapoia sygkekrimenh epistolh kai sxedio poy exei aposteilei o k. Solana epi toy opoioy egine h enhmerwsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Anafora ekanan oi kyrioi G. Papandreoy kai G. Papantwnioy. Tonisthke kai apo toys dyo oti yparxei mia epanafora toy qematos apo toys etairoys mas sthn E.E. Einai safeis oi logoi. Ejalloy, yparxei kai mia piesh gia thn anagkh apostolhs toy eyrwstratoy se eyaisqhtes perioxes twn Balkaniwn. Ginetai, kata kairoys, mia syzhthsh. Den yparxei, wstoso, kati sygkekrimeno, gia ton aploystato logo oti den einai se qesh h toyrkikh pleyra na analabei tis sxetikes prwtoboylies. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw idiaitera einai oti opoiadhpote syzhthsh gia to qema toy eyrwstratoy ginetai panta sto plaisio twn apofasewn ths Sebillhs. Oi apofaseis ths Sebillhs, prwton, safws den dinoyn th dynatothta askhshs "beto" se kamia trith xwra, se periptwsh mh xrhsimopoihshs twn ypodomwn toy NATO kai deyteron, den dhmioyrgoyn anisothta sthn yperaspish twn symferontwn mas. Antiqeta, prokrinoyn thn yperaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn kapoias xwras-melos ths E.E., enanti twn tritwn xwrwn.

MOYRTZHS: Diakrinw mia sibyllikh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws th metaferete. Eipe oti "ola einai anoikta kai prepei na katapiastoyme me to ergo mas, edw kai twra". Egw to eklambanw ayto oti prepei na shmainei epispeysh twn politikwn ejelijewn h oti ola einai anoikta, me thn ennoia oti to 2004 mporei na parei tis ekloges h to ena komma h to allo.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos ektimhse -opws sas anefera- oti gia tis ekloges toy 2004 yparxoyn plhrws oi proypoqeseis nikhs toy PASOK. Bebaiws, den mporei na prodikasei kaneis thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy.

ELENOPOYLOS: Qa ginei kati prin thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Mhn anhsyxeite.

MOYRTZHS: Me prostaktiko tropo, oysiastika, kalese o Prwqypoyrgos se aytokaqarsh th N.D. apo akrodejia stoixeia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prostaktikos den mporei na einai. An qelete, mporei na einai enas tropos me idiaitera sobarh epishmansh -dioti einai ena sobaro qema- alla den mporei na einai prostaktikos.

MOYRTZHS: Symfwna me th dhlwsh toy Qeodwroy Pagkaloy, akrodejies apoceis kai akrodejia stoixeia diatrexoyn oloys toys politikoys xwroys. Eseis ti qa kanete; Qa apomonwsete ta akrodejia stoixeia kai tis akrodejies apoceis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme akrodejia stoixeia sto PASOK. Omws, ean einai na khryjoyme ton polemo ws komma se akrodejies apoceis, poy kykloforoyn sthn koinwnia, safws symfwnw me oloys osoi einai apofasismenoi na enwsoyn tis dynameis toys gi` ayto. Gia paradeigma, na katapolemhsoyme to ratsismo, th jenofobia, apoceis poy akoygontai apo akrodejia kommata kai sxhmatismoys se sxesh me tis eyrwpaikes ejelijeis h me tis akoloyqoymenes politikes h me megala koinwnika problhmata toy laoy mas h akoma kai me thn eleyqeria kai thn apodoxh ths diaforetikothtas kai ths politismikothtas. Se ola ayta ta zhthmata eimaste antimetwpoi me tis akrodejies apoceis. Otan enwsoyme, loipon, tis dynameis mas, opws proteinei o k. Pagkalos -kai symfwnw apolytws sto na katapolemhsoyme aytes tis apoceis- bebaiws einai anagkaio na prwtostatei to PASOK se ayth th maxh.

KARGOYDH: Qelw na rwthsw, an kata thn eishghsh toy o Giwrgos Papandreoy h sth deyterologia toy o Prwqypoyrgos, anaferqhkan leptomerws pws ennooyme to germaniko montelo, metafrazomeno.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto shmainei oti mia endexomenh lysh toy Kypriakoy prepei na anaferei se ``on paper'' to koinotiko kekthmeno. Einai safes. Dhladh, oti entassetai to ena tmhma, alla entassetai ws organikh enothta, ws oloklhrh h Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Eipame olh h Kypros. Otan me to kalo, elpizoyme syntoma, prowqhqei h epilysh toy Kypriakoy, aytomatws qa efarmostei to koinotiko kekthmeno gia olh thn Kypro. Dhladh, h Kypros entassetai ws plhrhs politikh ontothta. Kai gia na to pw pio apla, h entajh ginetai gia oloklhrh thn Kypro.

IWANNOY: Sto qema ths akrodejias poy eipate prin, den anhsyxei h kybernhsh kai to PASOK oti sthn periptwsh poy qa anoijei kai metwpo, ektos ths tromokratias kai me thn akrodejia, qa enisxysei, endexomenws, ayto to fainomeno; Se oses perioxes prospaqhsate na plhjete oysiastika aytoys toys ypochfioys poy kathgorhsate ws akrodejioys, ejeleghsan qriambeytika.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean syspeirwqhke h N.D. kai eixe th sthrijh se ekeines tis perioxes, den shmainei oti to mhnyma poy ekpemcame den etyxe qetikhs apodoxhs se olh thn Ellada. Mhn krinete mia eklogh mono apo to sygkekrimeno dhmo h nomarxia. H syspeirwsh ths N.D. kai h sthrijh akrodejiwn ypochfiwn sto a h b dhmo, apokalyce to problhma se olh thn Ellada. Leitoyrghse -qa elega- ws symperasma gia olh thn Ellada. Kai den einai tyxaio oti ypoxrewqhke o k. Royssopoylos, kai malista me sobares diafwnies apo to eswteriko ths N.D., ligo prin apo tis ekloges, na bgei kai na kataggeilei to k. Karatzaferh.

KOYIN: An katalaba, apo thn apanthsh poy dwsate ston k. Mixahl, ektos apo th symmetoxh ths ``Mpoympoylinas'' se ayth th natoikh nhopomph, ayto to stolo, h Ellada den exei allo qema poy na...

PRWTOPAPAS: Egw gia th ``Mpoympoylina'' gnwrizw.

KOYIN: Ektos apo ayto, den apasxolei to qema thn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite. Otan symmetexoyme me thn ellhnikh fregata den mas apasxolei; Steilame th fregata xwris logo;

KOYIN: Giati syzhthqhke sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekane mia enhmerwsh o ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias epeidh h syzhthsh aforoyse qemata dieqnoys politikhs. Kata thn parembash toy, anoije mia parenqesh legontas pws ola ayta poy grafthkan ston Typo den exoyn pragmatikh bash kai oti qa ekdwsei sxetikh anakoinwsh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Xwris na jeroyme ean ayth thn wra syzhthqhkan sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h oxi, qa prepei na anamenoyme sygkekrimenes kinhseis apo thn pleyra ths hgesias ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK pros thn kateyqynsh ths ananewshs kai ths allaghs, opws eipate prohgoymenws;

PRWTOPAPAS: To mono poy egine shmera htan h oloklhrwmenh pragmatika topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws sas thn paroysiasa. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti ayta ta zhthmata den prepei na syzhtoyntai keiqen, kakeiqen. Den prepei na anaptyssontai apoceis poy den exoyn syzhthqei sta organa kai na petagontai dikhn pyrotexnhmatos. Oyte na dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn, oyte na anazhtoyme piqana problhmata poy mporei na yparxoyn metajy proswpwn. Ayto poy xreiazetai einai syntetagmena, mesa apo ta organa, na melethsoyme ta symperasmata poy ejagontai -kai einai pollapla kai poikilomorfa- apo thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy kai na xarajoyme thn politikh mas. Olo ayto to zhthma twn proswpwn -nomizw oti to exete katanohsei- ephreazei sobara thn epilogh ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Opoy yphrxan katajiwmena proswpa ths Aytodioikhshs, poy qa mporoysan na arqrwsoyn enan neo kai sygxrono logo, timhqhkan idiaitera me thn chfo twn politwn.

MPOTWNHS: Se aytes tis politikes ejelijeis, polla stelexh ths N.D., eite sta radiofwna, eite sthn thleorash, metafrazoyn to mhnyma ws dysarmonia toy eklogikoy Swmatos me to Koinoboylio kai oti ayto mporei na lyqei mesa apo prowres ekloges.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferqhka xqes sto qema. H xqesinh topoqethsh moy, kaqws kai kyriws h shmerinh toy Prwqypoyrgoy apantoyn ej oloklhroy sto erwthma sas.

ELENOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos shmera eipe oti den einai kai toso bebaio...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema twn prowrwn eklogwn; Oxi, einai apolyto kai to blepete. Isa-isa poy leei oti yparxei xronos na proxwrhsoyme kai na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas. Na prosejete to grapto keimeno poy qa parete. Na to jekaqarisoyme: Oi ekloges qa ginoyn thn anoijh toy 2004. Mhn exete thn paramikrh agwnia kai amfibolia.

ALEJAKHS: Anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos sth dhmioyrgia kentroaristeroy poloy, opws mas perigracate xqes; Aytos o kentroaristeros polos perilambanei kentrikh politikh symfwnia h kata topoys, opws egine stis prosfates ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ton teleytaio kairo arxizoyn kai anaferontai kapoies apoceis -bebaia dikaiwma toy kaqenos einai na exei thn apoch toy, oi opoies den einai epikaires. Ayta ta qemata den exoyn syzhthqei akoma. Den exoyn teqei, oyte sta armodia kommatika organa, oyte sthn kybernhsh. Ligh ypomonh. Qa ginei enas syntetagmenos dialogos, o opoios qa jekinhsei apo to E.G. se prwth fash kai qa yparjei deyterh fash sthn K.E. toy Kinhmatos. Ola ayta ta qemata -bebaiws kai to qema toy proodeytikoy xwroy- qa syzhthqoyn.

ALEJAKHS: Shmera egine anafora se ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den anaferqhke kan to qema. Ayto den shmainei oti den yparxei. Qa einai apo ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn sto komma, to epomeno diasthma.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa mporoysate na mas peite dyo-treis basikoys ajones apo th deyterologia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: H deyterologia toy Prwqypoyrgoy perielambane sxoliasmoys qetikoy xarakthra epi twn topoqethsewn.

KOYIN: Otan qa leipete eseis, poios qa kanei thn enhmerwsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H politikh enhmerwsh ayrio kai meqayrio qa ginei kanonika apo ton yfypoyrgo Typoy k. Xythrh.

Me thn eykairia qa hqela na anaferqw se mia xqesinh thleoptikh syzhthsh moy me ton k. Meimarakh, ston thleoptiko staqmo ``ALPHA''. Epeidh dhmioyrghqhke h entypwsh oti eipa pws yparxoyn argomisqoi sto ypoyrgeio Typoy, diabasa shmera prosektika to synolo ths apomagnhtofwnhmenhs synenteyjhs. Den yparxei tetoio pragma. Htan kaqara sth fantasia toy k. Meimarakh, o opoios profanws epeidh eixe allhs morfhs problhmata, prospaqhse na ``gantzwqei'' apo ena qema, to opoio oydepote eipwqhke. Exw oloklhro to keimeno ths apomagnhtofwnhmenhs synenteyjhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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