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MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Iwannina, 13 Septembrioy 2002

H POLITIKH ENHMERWSH TWN EKPROSWPWN TWN MME THS PERIFEREIAS HPEIROY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Agaphtes files kai filoi eimai shmera sta Giannina, edw sta grafeia ths Perifereias Hpeiroy. Me thn eykairia ths episkechs moy sthn polh kai gia na tonisoyme th shmasia poy dinoyme sthn ellhnikh perifereia kai sta MME, skefqhka na kanoyme edw shmera thn kaqierwmenh kaqhmerinh politikh enhmerwsh, h opoia bebaiws den qa ginei sthn Aqhna. Ayto to exoyme kanei kai sth Boreia Ellada, sth Qessalonikh, mas dinetai h eykairia na to kanoyme shmera kai sthn Hpeiro kai elpizw oti qa exoyme thn eykairia na to synexisoyme kai se alles Perifereies kai Nomoys ths xwras.

Den qa kanw kanena prologo kai eimai etoimos gia tis erwthseis sas, pisteyontas oti oi ekproswpoi twn MME ths perifereias den exoyn tipote na zhlecoyn apo toys synadelfoys toys toy kentroy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

G. KYROYSHS (ERT-HPEIRWTIKOS AGWN) : Kyrie Ypoyrge yparxei ena xqesino dhmosieyma ths ELEYQEROTYPIAS gia to Nomarxh Dramas poy zhtaei xrhmata apo th N.D. gia na metaferei chfoforoys apo th Germania. Qa hqela to sxolio sas gi@ ayto. Epishs, epeidh tis teleytaies meres parathreitai mia anodos toy plhqwrismoy h opoia einai, mporw na pw, anhsyxhtikh an krinoyme apo ta shmerina dedomena, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an qa prosteqoyn kai nea problhmata, sthn periptwsh poy klimakwqei h krish ston Persiko kai an h Kybernhsh protiqetai na labei kapoia metra epipleon, prokeimenoy na tiqaseysei kata kapoion tropo ton plhqwrismo.

PRWTOPAPAS : Koitajte einai dyo poly shmantikes erwthseis gia dyo qemata epikairothtas. To ena afora tis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges. Exoyme kat@ epanalhch tonisei oti stis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges krinetai to mellon ths Aytodioikhshs. An qa exoyme Nomarxes h Dhmarxoys poy na mporoyn na epitelesoyn to rolo toys, na yphrethsoyn to qesmo gia toys polites kai na symballoyn me to ergo toys sthn anabaqmish ths poiothtas zwhs twn politwn kai sto kentro kai sthn perifereia. Epibebaiwnetai ayth h ektimhsh mas. Kai epishs epibebaiwnetai h anagkh na chfistoyn Nomarxes kai Dhmarxoi oi opoioi qa einai se qesh na ejyphrethsoyn ayth thn anagkaiothta. Epibebaiwnetai akomh h ektimhsh mas oti prepei na katachfistoyn oi ypochfioi ths N.D. Ki ayto giati : opws apodeiknyetai apo thn idia thn epistolh toy k. Eymoiridh pros ton Proedro ths N.D. Kwsta Karamanlh, epistolh h opoia exei ton titlo toy Nomarxh, h N.D. den epiqymei Nomarxes kai Dhmarxoys poy na exoyn th stoixeiwdh anejarthsia kai dynatothta na yphrethsoyn ta symferonta toy Nomoy toys h toy Dhmoy toys. H N.D. qelei aplws na ``gracei mple'', oso mporei perissotero, thn hmera twn eklogwn. Den thn endiaferei h Aytodioikhsh. Thn endiaferei mono na odhghsei th xwra se krish. Thn endiaferei mono na ylopoihsei to oneiro ths gia dhqen prowres ekloges. Katapata kaqe ennoia aytonomias, kaqe ennoia sebasmoy sto qesmo. O k. Eymoiridhs einai ap@ toys gnwstoys ypochfioys ths N.D. kai otan epikoinwnei ws Nomarxhs kai zhtaei xrhmata apo ton arxhgo ths N.D. gia na metaferei opadoys toy, exei ekpoihsei me ayton ton tropo kaqe ennoia aytonomias, kaqe ennoia dynatothtas diekdikhshs, kaqe ennoia paroysias, me thn isxy toy eklegmenoy apo to lao Nomarxh, pros ta politika kommata kai eidika pros to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. M@ ayton ton tropo aytoakyrwnontai. To dystyxhma einai oti oi eklektoi toys akyrwnoyn kai to qesmo. Na giati, s@ aytes tis ekloges qa prepei na chfisoyme me krithrio ta symferonta ths Aytodioikhshs kai na apomakrynoyme aytes tis epikindynes katastaseis kai antilhceis.

Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, exw na sas pw oti : yparxei ontws - to exoyme ejhghsei ayto @ problhma me to qema twn anatimhsewn sthn agora. Ki ayto einai ena idiaitera sobaro qema, giati exei na kanei me to laiko eisodhma, exei na kanei me to epipedo zwhs twn politwn kai kyriws exei na kanei me toys anqrwpoys poy einai stis xamhloteres eisodhmatikes tajeis. Bebaiws, eimaste se synqhkes anoixths agoras kai gnwrizete oti ayto dhmioyrgei ta problhmata. Gnwrizete oti den mporoyme ypo tis shmerines oikonomikes synqhkes na epibaloyme diatimhsh sta proionta. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn periorismoi ston tomea ayto. Mesa omws sto plaisio twn dynatothtwn poy yparxoyn, lambanoyme ola ta anagkaia metra prokeimenoy na xtyphsoyme thn kerdoskopia kai thn aisxrokerdeia. S@ ayth thn kateyqynsh, gnwrizete oti xqes apofasisthke h systash eidikhs diypoyrgikhs epitrophs, oti yparxei h proqesh twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn Oikonomias, Anaptyjhs kai Gewrgias, eidika gia ta agrotika proionta, na epitaxynoyn thn epibolh eniaioy timologioy apo to xwrafi mexri thn agora, th xrhsh tameiakwn mhxanwn stis laikes agores kai bebaiws ekei poy xreiazetai kai th dieykolynsh twn eisagwgwn. Isws h prwth parapomph xrondremporoy apo to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs ston eisaggelea, poy egine hdh, gia yperboliko kerdos sthn timh ths tomatas na shmatodotei ayth thn apofasistikothta mas kai na apodeiknyei kai to megeqos toy problhmatos poy yparxei sthn agora. Na to jekaqarisoyme loipon : ola ta anagkaia metra ejygianshs twn kyklwmatwn poy odhgoyn se ayjhsh twn timwn qa lhfqoyn kai gi@ ayto systaqhke h diypoyrgikh epitroph. H aisxrokerdeia kai h kerdoskopia qa xtyphqoyn. Ki opoy yparxoyn tetoies apodeijeis qa parapempontai, opws hdh egine, ston eisaggelea. Oi elegxoi apo to SDOE qa entaqoyn kai qa ajiopoihsoyme kaqe meso poy exoyme gia na xtyphsoyme ayto to fainomeno kai na prostateysoyme ton polith. Yparxei, omws, to teleytaio diasthma kai mia kinhsh twn idiwn twn politwn. Yparxoyn ta aytonoma @ kai to tonizw ayto @ kinhmata twn katanalwtwn ta opoia proxwroyn stis dikes toys kinhseis. Emeis, ws Kybernhsh, qa elega gia logoys deontologias, den prepei na eimaste oyte yper oyte kata aytwn twn kinhtopoihsewn. Prepei, omws, na xairetizoyme thn idia thn kinhtopoihsh ws qesmo, thn idia thn kinhsh twn politwn, thn idia th dhmioyrgia katanalwtikhs syneidhshs. Pisteyw oti h dhmioyrgia katanalwtikhs syneidhshs, h dhmioyrgia katanalwtikoy kinhmatos, ws qesmoy, qa symballei idiaitera sthn prostasia toy idioy toy polith kai sthn antimetwpish toy problhmatos twn anatimhsewn, bebaiws kai ths aisxrokerdeias apo opoy ki an proerxetai.

S. ARGYRHS (FLASH) : Na meinw sto qema twn dhmotikwn eklogwn kai na rwthsw poio einai to orio poy bazei to PASOK gi aythn thn eklogikh anametrhsh h opoia ap@ oti anagnwrizetai, einai kai politikh.

PRWTOPAPAS : Einai bebaiws politikh ki ayto giati oi qesmoi exoyn na kanoyn me thn politikh zwh, exoyn na kanoyn me thn ejyphrethsh toy polith. Me ayth thn ennoia h eklogikh anametrhsh einai politikh. H poreia ths Aytodioikhshs einai safws ena politiko qema. Den bazoyme phxh, dioti opws gnwrizetai sthrizoyme toys ypochfioys se oles tis Nomarxies kai se oloys toys Dhmoys ths xwras. Otan sthrizeis enan ypochfio, diekdikeis kai zhtas thn eklogh toy. Oi dynameis toy PASOK, oi Nomarxiakes Epitropes kai oi Topikes Organwseis toy PASOK se olh th xwra sthrizoyn aytoys toys ypochfioys. Einai gnwsto oti, gia paradeigma, edw sta Iwannina sthrizoyme to syndyasmo toy Filippoy Tsoymanh gia th qesh toy Nomarxh kai toy tews Nomarxh Nikoy Zarmpala gia th qesh toy Dhmarxoy Iwannitwn. Otan leme oti sthrizoyme aytoys toys syndyasmoys se olh th xwra, shmainei oti proteinoyme stoys polites na eklegoyn ws oi katallhloteroi gia na yphrethsoyn to qesmo, gia na prowqhsoyn kinhmata energoys symmetoxhs twn politwn. Eidika gia toys Nomarxes, toys proteinoyme gia na prowqhsoyn kai thn anaptyjh, giati oi Nomarxes exoyn rolo sthn topikh anaptyjh. Den einai to makry xeri toy kommatos poy apla kai mono qa prosqesei kapoio xrwma - prasino h mple h kokkino - thn hmera ths eklogikhs anametrhshs, stis thleoraseis. Ayto einai katantia, an kapoios skeptetai m@ ayton ton tropo. Ara loipon emeis se olh thn Ellada, kai mesa apo tis kommatikes dynameis mas, sthrizoyme, energopoioymaste gia th nikh olwn twn chfodeltiwn ta opoia dhlwsame oti yposthrizoyme. Kai qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti to apotelesma qa einai tetoio poy kai o qesmos ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs qa exei th dynatothta na kanei almata pros ta mpros, opws apaiteitai apo th sygxronh sygkyria. Ta pragmata exoyn allajei. O Dhmarxos kai o Nomarxhs prepei pia na mporoyn na staqoyn mazi me toys alloys eyrwpaioys Dhmarxoys kai Nomarxes, s@ enan allo, diaforetiko rolo ths Aytodioikhshs, alla kai bebaiws gia na synexistei omala kai h genikoterh poreia toy eksygxronismoy kai ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs ths xwras.

B. SIWMOS (ANT1) : Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs : giati to ESR apagoreyei stoys Nomarxiakoys kai Dhmotikoys Symboyloys na kanoyn thleoptika spot probolhs toys. Poia h logikh ayths ths apofashs kai poia h qesh ths Kybernhshs ;

PRWTOPAPAS : Yparxei mia oloklhrwmenh ``odhgia'', poy ejedwse to ESR prin apo dyo meres kai nomizw oti ayto afora h erwthsh sas. Qelw na pw to ejhs : einai anamfibola ajiepainh h prwtoboylia toy ESR na asxolhqei me ta zhthmata ths deontologias, enocei dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn. Kai qelw na toys sygxarw gi@ ayto. Qelw omws na tonisw oti den yparxei nomikh bash, den yparxei nomos h kanonistikh prajh gia thn ekdosh odhgias, h parabiash ths opoias, bebaiws, synepagetai kai tis sxetikes eyqynes. Ara loipon, olh ayth h kinhsh toy ESR exei th dikh ths hqikh ajia, exei th dikh ths deontologikh ajia. Nomizw oti etsi prepei na thn antilhfqoyme., me dedomeno oti nomikh bash den yparxei. Me thn eykairia omws qelw na kalesw toys thleoptikoys kai radiofwnikoys staqmoys kaqws kai tis efhmerides na laboyn, kanontas thn aytoryqmish toys, ola ta anagkaia metra wste na ejasfalistei h isotimh probolh twn syndyasmwn ,toylaxiston gia tis megales poleis kai ta megala kentra, h dynatothta ekfrashs twn apocewn kai h paroysiash toys ston polith, h diapalh twn idewn kai bebaiws h isotimh probolh ths drasthriothtas olwn twn ypochfiwn. Pisteyw oti oi radiothleoptikoi staqmoi kai oi efhmerides mporoyn na kanoyn to diko toys programma , na laboyn ta dika toys metra kai na eggyhqoyn oti qa yparxoyn aytes oi ises eykairies se mia toso shmantikh anametrhsh.

B. SIWMOS : Pantws polloi lene oti me aythn thn apofash prospaqeite na toys fimwsete.

PRWTOPAPAS : Opws akoysate, apanthsa hdh. Sas epanalambanw, loipon, oti nai men den yparxei nomikh bash kai ara den mporoyme na epibaloyme stoys staqmoys ti qa kanoyn. Qelw, omws, na toys zhthsw na laboyn monoi toys ta anagkaia metra, wste na ejasfalistei oti einai anoixtoi se oloys, oti akoygontai oles oi fwnes, oti paroysiazontai oles oi apoceis. Eimai safhs.

G. KEISOGLOY (MEGA) : H odhgia toy ESR, gia to pws qa kalyfqei h proeklogikh periodos, epeidh exei gia prwth fora diatajeis oi opoies teinoyn na einai apagoreytikes gia th dhmosiografikh @

PRWTOPAPAS : Eipa oti den yparxei nomikh bash. Ayto apanta apo mono toy. Den yfistatai nomos h kanonistikh diatajh poy na to epiballei. Kai qelw na qymisw oti h Politeia einai armodia gia th dhmioyrgia twn nomwn kai twn kanonistikwn diatajewn.

B. SKOYLIKA (TV 1-PRWINOS LOGOS) : Shmera sthn perioxh mas, sto Nomo mas, exei dhmioyrghqei ena poly sobaro problhma kaqoti me mia tropologia poy perase th nyxta katargoyntai ta eidika eklogika tmhmata, poy shmainei oti peripoy 6.000 eklogeis, chfoforoi toy Nomoy Iwanninwn, poy qa briskontai ton Oktwbrio se alles perioxes, qa exoyn sobaro problhma metakinhshs kai piqanon den qa mporesoyn na chfisoyn. Ti exete na peite ;

PRWTOPAPAS : Epeidh einai mia poly eidikh diatajh, qa diereynhsw to qema kai qa parete thn apanthsh moy mesw epistolhs moy poy qa aposteilw sthn Perifereia. Qa synennohqw me to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai qa sas apanthsw. Pantws qelw na sas diabebaiwsw oti den yparxei kamia politikh skopimothta.

A. KOSMA (ALTER) : Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an h syllhch ths Aggelikhs Swthropoyloy shmatodotei ena neo gyro syllhcewn.

PRWTOPAPAS : Qa prepei na apomyqopoihsoyme ta pragmata gyrw apo thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias. Exoyme dhlwsei kat@ epanalhch @ ki ayto pisteyw oti to exoyn katanohsei oloi oi Ellhnes @ kai einai safes oti toylaxiston h 17N epixeirhsiaka exei plhrws ejarqrwqei. H 17N den einai se qesh na blacei thn koinwnia, na blacei thn Ellada. H 17N den einai se qesh, meta tis syllhceis twn melwn ths, na analabei thn opoiadhpote epixeirhsh. Bebaiws, prepei na synexisoyme th doyleia mas gia thn ejarqrwsh kai twn allwn tromokratikwn organwsewn, poy to teleytaio diasthma einai anenerges. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti den eixan ki aytes sto parelqon analogh egklhmatikh drasthriothta. Doyleyoyme me thn idia sobarothta, eyqynh kai xamhloys tonoys s@ ayth thn kateyqynsh. Den proanaggellontai oi syllhceis. Den yparxoyn xronodiagrammata gia thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias. Den qa poyme pote oti mexri tote qa kanoyme ayto kai meta qa kanoyme ekeino, dioti den kinoymaste me bash prokaqorismenes katastaseis. Emeis, me thn ereyna, me th systhmatikh doyleia dhmioyrgoyme tis dynatothtes gia syllhceis. Sthn periptwsh ths k. Swthropoyloy, to entalma syllhchs ekdoqhke apo toys Efetes anakrites kai bebaiws sth synexeia h Antitromokratikh Yphresia, me bash to entalma poy eixe sta xeria ths, proxwrhse sth syllhch ths.

Eixame akoysei arketes anohsies apo toys periferomenoys paramyqades, to teleytaio diasthma, gi@ ayto to qema. Enas kyrios periferotan apo kanali se kanali kai elege ``exoyn kanei symfwnies, exoyn kanei symbibasmoys, poy diapragmateyontai''. E, loipon, den diapragmateyomaste me tromokrates. Kai gia osoys yparxoyn stoixeia, gia osoys yparxoyn apodeijeis na eiste bebaioi oti o nomos qa kanei th doyleia toy. Kai h ereyna qa proxwrhsei se baqos. To koybari ths tromokratias, h opoia arxise na ejarqrwnetai, qa fqasei mexri to plhres jetyligma toy. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme kai tipota na fobhqoyme. Ayta poy akoygontai poy akoygontai kata kairoys, exei apodeixqei oti den einai sobara, einai anohsies. Gia paradeigma, o k. Polydwras mas elege mexri protinos oti ena aorato xeri empodizei tis syllhceis kai na deite oti ``den qa piastei o Koyfontinas''. Prin alektwr lalhsei tris, apodeixqhke h anohsia aytoy toy isxyrismoy. Ta idia eginan kai sthn periptwsh ths k. Swthropoyloy. Ta idia qa ginoyn, opws fainetai, se oles tis periptwseis. Kala den koyrasthkan aytoi oi anqrwpoi epi 27 xronia ; H N.D. epi 27 xronia mas leei oti stelexh toy PASOK kai palaiotera toy PAK eixan sxesh me thn tromokratia. Apodeiknyetai to antiqeto. Den exoyn to elaxisto qarros na bgoyn kai na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys ; Den exoyn thn elaxisth ajioprepeia na dwsoyn sygxarhthria sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, sthn Kybernhsh gi@ ayto to ergo ;

Emeis qa synexisoyme me thn idia sobarothta kai eyqynh. Ki otan yparxei kati neo qa to maqainete. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme. Me thn eykairia, omws, ths erwthshs sas qelw na jekaqarisw kati poy sas zhtw na to prosejete giati prokeitai gia qema hqikhs tajhs. S@ ayth thn istoria yparxoyn kai anhlika paidia poy einai syggeneis syllhfqentwn. Qelw na parakalesw idiaitera toys thleoptikoys staqmoys kai na toys zhthsw na sebastoyn kai tis proswpikothtes twn anqrwpwn kai thn anagkh ths prostasias ths paidikhs hlikias. Na mhn paroysiazoyn paidia poy einai syggeneis twn syllhfqentwn, eite kata tis episkeceis toys stis fylakes, eite gia ton opoiondhpote logo. Ta paidia ayta den xrwstoyn tipota, arketa problhmata exoyn hdh, qelw na sas parakalesw na ta sebasteite.

P. TZOKAS (ERA DIKTYO HPEIROY) : Poia einai h qesh ths xwras mas se endexomeno epiqeshs kata toy Irak kai an qa yparjei antidrash apo thn E.E. ; Kai deyteron, yparxoyn kataggelies apo stelexh ths N.D., opws o k. Kaxrimanhs, poy einai ypochfioi oti h Kybernhsh kinhtopoiei mhxanismoys yper twn ypochfiwn toy PASOK.

PRWTOPAPAS : To prwto qema poy qigete einai pragmati poly sobaro kai mas apasxolei idiaitera. Einai safes oti h Ellada den einai yper ths synexishs toy polemoy kai se kaqe periptwsh thn eyqynh ths ereynas gia to an yparxoyn tromokratikes organwseis h epikindyna xhmika, biologika h alla opla sto Irak, thn exei o OHE. Olh ayth h ypoqesh prepei na einai sta xeria ths dieqnoys koinothtas. O OHE einai to katallhlotero organo pros toyto. Bebaiws mas endiaferei o agwnas gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias. Opws gnwrizete meteixame kai stis epixeirhseis poy eginan sto Afganistan, oxi me enopla tmhmata, alla bohqhsame me apostolh kai eidikhs nosokomeiakhs monadas kai tmhmatos Mhxanikoy, wste na symbalei sthn anasygkrothsh kai th beltiwsh ths poiothtas zwhs twn politwn poy toso eixan talaipwrhqei ekei. Qelw na tonisw oti oi polemikes epixeirhseis mporei na dhmioyrghsoyn sobarotates parenergeies, idiaitera ston arabiko kosmo. Xreiazetai, loipon, idiaiterh synesh kai eyqynh, xreiazetai o OHE na diadramatisei ton kyriarxo kai apofasistiko rolo s@ ayto to qema kai bebaiws kai h E.E. prepei ki ayth na paijei to diko ths syllogiko rolo. Gnwrizw oti kai mesa sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh yparxoyn fwnes poy epiqymoyn aytonomes kinhseis. Qelw na pw oti qa einai krima gia mia akomh fora h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, poy exei tis dynatothtes na askhsei th dikh ths ejwterikh politikh, kai politikh asfaleias, na emfanistei oyragos twn ejelijewn. Qelw na pisteyw oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sto plaisio panta ths dieqnoys koinothtas kai se synennohsh kai me tis alles dynameis , alla bebaiws sto plaisio toy OHE, qa diadramatisei ki ayth to dikos ths rolo. Ara, loipon, na synexisoyme ton agwna gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, alla me idiaiterh prosoxh, eyqynh, ereyna kai anadeijh twn pragmatikwn problhmatwn.

Oson afora th deyterh erwthsh sas : o ypochfios Nomarxhs, o k. Kaxrimanhs, ton opoio sthrizei h N.D., profanws akoyse ton k. Karamanlh sthn Korinqo kai qewrhse skopimo na epanalabei tis sxetikes kathgories kai edw. Qa eprepe, omws, kapoios na toy pei oti ta programmata katapolemhshs ths anergias exoyn arxisei edw kai peripoy ena xrono, anejarthta an h N.D. den eixe mpei ston kopo na asxolhqei me ayta, dioti den thn endiaferei h katapolemhsh ths anergias profanws, kai soy leei giati na me endiaferoyn kai ta programmata. Kapoia stigmh t@ anakalyce, alla prepei na toys poyme gia dieykolynsh toys kai gia mhn agwnioyn, oti ta programmata ayta exoyn arxisei na efarmozontai edw kai para poly kairo kai ejelissontai. Emeis den xeirizomaste proeklogika ayta ta zhthmata. Emeis, xarh s@ aytes tis politikes @ palaiotera eixa ki egw thn timh na eishghqw kai na paroysiasw arketa ap@ ayta sthn polh sas @ petyxame na meiwsoyme thn anergia poy opws gnwrizete , prin apo dyo xronia htan 11,9% kai shmera brisketai se monochfio ariqmo. Einai sto 9,5%. Bebaiws, to pososto ths anergias einai akomh ychlo. Omws 100.000 anqrwpoi brhkan doyleia. Synexizoyme sthn idia kateyqynsh.

H N.D. eite dioti den gnwrize, eite dioti prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei entypwseis aphyqyne ayth thn kathgoria h opoia blepete oti den eystaqei. Omws prepei na pw pali, me thn eykairia ayth, ston k. Karamanlh kai ta stelexh ths N.D, na mh krinoyn ej idiwn ta allotria. Emeis den kanoyme tetoia pragmata. As koitajoyn na epanaferoyn sthn tajh ton k. Eymoiridh kai toys dikoys toys. Emeis gnwrizoyme oti kai ta programmata kai oles oi politikes mas ginontai me safeis kai diafanes diadikasies. Ayto to gnwrizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes polites. An kapoios den exei dei opws prepei h den exei ajiopoihsei ayta ta programmata, kapoios Nomarxhs, kapoios Dhmarxos gi@ ayto ftaiei aytos. Mh loipon epixeiroyn to triptyxo adynamia @ adraneia @ anikanothta stelexwn ths N.D., poy eixan eklegei ws topikoi h nomarxiakoi arxontes, na to metatrecoyn se problhma gia olh thn Ellada. Oson afora to G@ K.P.S. - yparxoyn kai oi xqesines dhlwseis toy Genikoy Grammatea ths Perifereias - hdh sto etos 2002 exei mia teleiws diaforetikh eikona apo@ oti thn prohgoymenh xronia.

D. KARAGIANNHS (AMBRAKIA @ Arta) : Otan to PASOK anelabe thn ypoxrewsh gia thn Olympiada tote epikratoyse h apoch oti to poly xrhma qa doqei sthn Aqhna kai oxi sthn perifereia. Ayth h apoch den exei fygei akomh apo ton kosmo kai akoyme oti pragmati ta xrhmata dinontai ekei kai oxi sthn perifereia. Qa qela na moy peite kati s@ ayto to qema kai epishs giati to PASOK epeleje ta gkalop gia na proteinei toys ypochfioys toy se orismenoys nomoys.

PRWTOPAPAS : Apantwntas sth deyterh erwthsh sas exw na pw oti to PASOK den ekane pantoy gkalop. Ekane se polles perioxes, giati hqele na parei deigmata apo tis epiqymies, thn ekfrash ths koinhs gnwmhs, sxetika me thn ajiologhsh ypochfiwn, poy htan stelexh toy h filoi toy Kinhmatos, kai eixan zhthsei th sthrijh toy PASOK. Ayto den einai kako. Den shmainei oti aytes oi metrhseis, h oi dhmoskophseis kaqorisan thn politikh mas. Opws exw tonisei kat@ epanalhch, oi dhmoskophsei apoteloyn ena sygxrono ergaleio analyshs. Giati na tis aporriptoyme. S@ olo ton kosmo ginontai. Kai se oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres, opws gnwrizete. To na exoyme sta xeria mas ena deigma gia to poia einai h krish, h ajiologhsh twn politwn gia kapoioys ypochfioys bohqaei, symballei anamfibola wste ki emeis na kanoyme tis kalyteres epiloges.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, qelw na qymisw oti oi poroi toy G@ KPS exoyn katanemhqei me safeis oroys, poy den exoyn allajei. Symfwna me thn katanomh poy exei ginei, to 80 % twn porwn toy phgainei sthn perifereia. Den nomizw oti yparxei anqrwpos poy na to amfisbhtei ayto. Yparxei anqrwpos poy na leei oti den einai etsi ; Na to apodeijei. Bebaiws xreiasthke na allajoyme tis diadikasies kai na ftiajoyme kainoyrgioys qesmoys. Gi@ ayto paroysiasthke mia bradythta sthn ekkinhsh ths rohs toy G@ K.P.S. Den egine dioti kapoioi kaqysterhsan, egine dioti htan anagkaio na allajoyme ta panta. Allajame, se symfwnia me thn E.E kai symfwna me toys neoys kanonismoys, oles tis arxes, oles tis diadikasies kai qa@ lega oti tis ``kleidwsame'' - an moy epitrepetai na xrhsimopoihsw ayto ton oro - me thn ennoia oti den xwrei pleon kamia energeia poy den xarakthrizetai apo swsth ajiopoihsh, aitiologhsh, diafaneia kai elegxo. Kai twra proxwroyme kai proxwroyme plhsistioi, qa elega, pros thn kateyqynsh ths ajiopoihshs twn porwn. Bebaiws kai sthn Aqhna ginontai erga kai sthn perifereia ginontai erga. Alla qelw na jekaqarisw, oti eidika gia to G@ KPS to 80% paei sthn perifereia.

B. LOYPAS (IOANNINA TV-ELEYQERIA) : Yparxei akomh ena qolo topio se oti afora toys radiothleoptikoys staqmoys ths eparxias. Ti qa kanete ;

PRWTOPAPAS : To exoyme kanei hdh. Xqes perase apo to armodio Tmhma ths Boylhs tropologia sto nomosxedio toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn gia tis Anejarthtes Arxes, me thn opoia akyrwnontai oloi oi diagwnismoi poy htan se ekkremothta. Jekinoyme apo mhdeniko shmeio, dioti gnwrizete poly kala oti me tis aithseis poy yphrxan prin, opoy yphrxan yperakties etairies, parenqeta proswpa, ki alles tetoies katastaseis, to ESR eixe dhlwsei oti adynatei na bgalei apotelesma toy diagwnismoy kai ton eixe khryjei agono, toylaxiston gia toys eqnikhs embeleias thleoptikoys staqmoys. Prepei na sas pw oti kataferame gia toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys na exoyme ta prwta qetika apotelesmata kai hdh leitoyrgoyn plhrws, me nomimh adeia kai me dikh moy ypografh. Leitoyrgoyn oi radiofwnikoi staqmoi ths Aqhnas ki ayto exei ginei kai gia th Qessalonikh. Kriname, loipon, skopimo, me dedomena ta problhmata poy paroysiasthkan stoys thleoptikoys staqmoys, na akyrwsoyme oloys toys diagwnismoys poy ginontan me palies aithseis kai na proxwrhsoyme ejarxhs se prosklhsh olwn twn endiaferomenwn gia na kataqesoyn aithsh gia thn paroxh adeias, me diagwnismo poy qa prokhryjei kai qa krinei ej@ oloklhroy h Anejarthth Arxh, to ESR. To Ypoyrgeio Typoy & MME, h Kybernhsh pairnei mia gennaia apofash. Apekdyetai oikeia boylhsei olhs ths dynatothtas parembashs sth diadikasia adeiodothshs twn thleoptikwn kai radiofwnikwn staqmwn kai anaqetei to synolo ayths ths diadikasias sthn Anejarthth Arxh, pisth stoys kanones ths diafaneias kai ths anejarthsias ston tomea ayto. Katoxyrwnei th fwnh sas. Poly syntoma, loipon, meta th dhmosieysh toy nomoy sto FEK, to ESR qa klhqei na analabei thn katastash kai na prokhryjei toys sxetikoys diagwnismoys. Fysika, aytoi poy exoyn ginei gia toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys ths Aqhnas kai ths Qessalonikhs isxyoyn.

Sas eyxaristw poly poy antapokriqhkate sthn prosklhsh moy kai moy dwsate thn eykairia na apanthsw sta erwthmata sas poy pisteyw oti kalyptoyn olh thn trexoysa epikairothta.

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