Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-04-26

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Aprilioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgikws, qa hqela na anakoinwsw ta ejhs: Epeidh exoyn dhmioyrghqei arketa eyloga erwthmata -ta eida shmera kai se merida toy Typoy- gyrw apo ta mhnymata poy fqanoyn sthn Eyrwph kai tis piqanes epiptwseis ston Toyrismo gia to qema ths filologias poy exei anaptyxqei gyrw apo ton io "Kojaki", qelw na tonisw oti apo thn prwth wra to Ypoyrgeio Typoy kai MME, se apolyth synennohsh me to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai dia toy Genikoy Grammatea Enhmerwshs Dhmhtrh Geroy, frontise kai eqese se epifylakh ta Grafeia Typoy se oles tis presbeies mas.

Anestalhsan proswrina oi adeies, poy logika dinontai kaqe fora tetoies hmeres, kai zhthqhke -opws kai egine- h leitoyrgia twn Grafeiwn Typoy mexri to brady. Ti ekanan ta Grafeia Typoy; Yphrxe mia synexhs apostolh, apo thn Kentrikh Yphresia, twn deltiwn typoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai idiaitera twn anakoinwsewn toy Kentroy Eidikwn Loimwjewn (KEL). Oi anakoinwseis toy Ypoyrgeioy Ygeias, eidikotera oi episthmonikes anakoinwseis kai bebaiws toy KEL metafrazontan stis jenes glwsses -tis kata topoy glwsses- kai dietiqento amesws sta armodia ypoyrgeia, alla eidika stis yphresies poy syndeontai me ton toyrismo. Yphrxe apolyth synennohsh me ta Grafeia toy EOT, opoy yparxoyn -p.x. sto Londino- kai me tis ypoloipes yphresies toy ellhnikoy kratoys. Ayto eixe ws apotelesma ston italiko kai galliko Typo, gia paradeigma, to klima na krathqei para poly xamhla kai sto germaniko Typo -kai me thn parembash toy germanikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn- na arqoyn kapoies prwtes anafores, poy eixan ginei kai na anagnwristei kai ekei oti pragmati den yparxei kanena qema. H idia doyleia ginetai ayth th stigmh se olh thn Eyrwph kai thn Amerikh, opoy exoyme Grafeia Typoy. Enhmerwnetai o jenos Typos kai ta kata topoys jena MME, kaqws kai oi armodies kratikes yphresies poy exoyn sxesh me ton toyrismo, wste na ftasei kai ston teleytaio polith twn xwrwn aytwn, poy einai xwres apostolhs toyristwn pros thn Ellada, oti den yfistatai kanena problhma, oyte yparxei idiaiteros logos anhsyxias.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ton teleytaio kairo yparxoyn arketa problhmata synoxhs sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, opws diafanhke kai sth xqesinh onomastikh chfoforia poy zhthse h N.D.. Anhsyxei ayto thn kybernhsh kai ean o Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai na parei kapoia dioikhtikoy xarakthra metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai h enothta kai h sthrijh ths koinoboyleytikhs omadas einai dedomenh. Bebaiws kai oi boyleytes exoyn thn apoch toys, thn opoia ekfrazoyn. Opws gnwrizete, ta nomosxedia chfizontai. Kai to xqesino nomosxedio, gia to opoio zhthqhke onomastikh chfoforia, epishs chfisthke. Apo ekei kai pera, ta eidikotera qemata antimetwpizontai mesa sto plaisio twn leitoyrgiwn, oi opoies einai dedomenes kai sygkekrimenes, ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK. Den yparxei politiko qema.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas exw qesei mia - dyo fores erwthma gyrw apo to tajidi toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Tzem sth Mesh Anatolh. Oi apanthseis sas, ofeilw na omologhsw, den htan apolyta ikanopoihtikes kat` eme. Qelw shmera na apanthsete ston k. Laliwth. Exei kanei dyo dhlwseis, apo o,ti exoyn bgei ston Typo, mia sto Ektelestiko Grafeio, alla kanei mia shmera sto "BHMA". Afoy leei oti oi prwtoboylies twn Ellhnwn kybernhtikwn ekproswpwn kai toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn einai poly qemites, leei: "H paroysia toy Tzem, omws, den mporei na exei ajiopistia dioti h Toyrkia den nomimopoieitai na zhta thn efarmogh twn apofasewn toy OHE, otan epi 28 xronia den efarmozei aytes tis apofaseis sthn Kypro". Dwste, sas parakalw, apanthsh ston k. Laliwth.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw anaferqei kat` epanalhch sthn oysia ayths ths prwtoboylias. H prwtoboylia toy k. Papandreoy htan apolyta mesa sto plaisio twn kybernhtikwn epilogwn. Apo ekei kai pera, eimaste ena megalo kai dhmokratiko komma kai einai apolytws logiko ta politika stelexh mas na exoyn tis apoceis toys.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Oxi, epi eqnikwn qematwn, k. Ypoyrge. Poios eipe na mhn paei o Papandreoy; Apo koinoy me ton k. Tzem, omws@.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferqhka, hdh, sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh moy. Ta stelexh mas exoyn apoceis. Bebaiws exoyn kai to qarros na tis ekfrazoyn kai einai protimotero na tis ekfrazoyn eyqews, para na ginontai ayta mesw diarrown, mia diadikasia poy nomizw den wfelei kanenan.

BITALHS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean ayth h prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn eixe syzhthqei se kapoio kybernhtiko organo. Dioti, proxqes to brady, sto Ektelestiko Grafeio, apo osa eginan gnwsta, kai o k. Benizelos kai h ka Papandreoy eipan oti den eixan thn paramikrh gnwsh, oyte eixe syzhthqei mia tetoioy typoy prwtoboylia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai ta kommatika organa, opws gnwrizete, otan yparxei ena qema, syzhteitai ena plaisio epilogwn me genikes kateyqynseis kai h strathgikh mas panw sta meizona qemata. Den syzhtoyntai eidikes h taktikes kinhseis poy mporei na prokycoyn apo kapoies eidikes synennohseis. Gi` ayta, apofasizei o armodios ypoyrgos h to armodio ypoyrgeio, se synennohsh panta me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Oson afora tis eidikes dhlwseis poy eginan -kai milw gia mia dhlwsh poy egine epishmws- einai safes oti eimaste ena megalo kai dhmokratiko komma, opoy ta stelexh mas, se orismena shmantika qemata, exoyn kai tis apoceis toys.

TAKHS: Symfwnoyme se ayto poy lete, alla o Kwstas Laliwths den einai aplws ena stelexos. Einai ena koryfaio stelexos kai Grammateas toy PASOK, opote h dhlwsh kai oi apoceis toy nomizw exoyn mia barynoysa shmasia. Kai otan o Grammateas toy PASOK kai koryfaioi ypoyrgoi, opws o k. Benizelos, exoyn ayth th diaforopoihsh, to pragma den mpleketai ligo perissotero;

PRWTOPAPAS: O kalyteros tropos gia na syzhthqoyn ayta ta zhthmata den einai h synanthsh mas. Yparxoyn ta armodia organa sta opoia ginontai aytes oi syzhthseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Apla qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti aytes tis hmeres poy phgan sth Mesh Anatolh o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Tzem, ta toyrkika polemika aeroskafh parabiasan pentakosies fores ton enaerio xwro ths Elladas. Ti exete na peite ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ep` aytoy, topoqethqhka safws sth xqesinh synanthsh mas.

ARGYROS: Exei programmatistei, to amesws epomeno diasthma meta to Pasxa, sygklhsh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi amesws meta to Pasxa, alla entos toy epomenoy mhna.

PITTARAS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti, xqes, mia mikrh omada boyleytwn toy PASOK den paresthsan sthn chfoforia, alla antiqetws epeleje na brisketai sta Iwannina gia na parakoloyqhsei mia politikh ekdhlwsh, me basiko omilhth ton k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsto oti merikes fores oi onomastikes chfofories prokyptoyn aifnidiastika. Me thn idia logikh qa mporoysame na anazhthsoyme thn aitia ths apoysias epta boyleytwn ths N.D. kai tessarwn boyleytwn toy KKE. Panta yparxoyn polles ypoxrewseis, opws tajidia sto ejwteriko k.a., alla apo thn empeiria poy exw, panta yparxoyn apoysies se kapoia onomastikh chfoforia. Pote den exei mazeytei to 100% twn boyleytwn. Apo thn wra poy chfisthke to nomosxedio, den yfistatai politiko qema. Yparxei to plaisio leitoyrgias ths K.O. toy PASOK kai einai gnwsto. Apo ekei kai pera, oi boyleytes leitoyrgoyn kai kata to Syntagma, exoyn tis apoceis toys kai tis ekfrazoyn. Den qewrw oti ayto einai ena qema poy den symbainei kai den exei symbei pote h dhmioyrgei kapoio meizon qema. Einai qemata poy symbainoyn sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn. Ean rwtate oti prospaqoyme na beltiwsoyme th leitoyrgia ths K.O. kai na lambanoyme metra, wste na yparxei kalyterh synennohsh kai dialogos me toys boyleytes mas, apantw eyqews "nai". Kai sta KTE beltiwnetai kai oysiastikopoieitai h leitoyrgia kai epidiwketai h kalyterh synennohsh.

PITTARAS: Pantws, se antidiastolh me to paradeigma twn Iwanninwn, na sas pw oti o k. Fasoylas poy briskotan sto Israhl, epestrece...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi onomastikes anafores den bohqoyn.

PITTARAS: Epeidh eipate gia aifnidiasmo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Edw kanoyme genikoterh politikh syzhthsh kai h anafora memonwmenwn periptwsewn den mas wfelei. Pisteyw oti adikei kai ta stelexh ayta poy einai aponta.

MOYRTZHS: Den sas problhmatizei oti mia "koystwdia" boyleytwn akoloyqei ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn sthn eparxia gia na parakoloyqhsei tis omilies toy; Pws blepete to qema aisqhtika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwton, den einai qema aisqhtikhs. Deyteron, exw thn entypwsh oti yperbalete. Mporei kapoios h kapoioi na eixan kanonisei tajidi, sto plaisio diakopwn ths Boylhs, pros tis perifereies toys h na parakoloyqhsoyn thn omilia kapoioy stelexoys. Einai synhqes ayto. Qelw na sas qymisw oti otan ginontai omilies stelexwn mas, diaforoi boyleytes phgainoyn kai tis parakoloyqoyn. Den yparxei kanena problhma.

MOYRTZHS: Mono o tsaros epairne toys bagyaroys mazi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi ta pragmata. Qa sas parapemcw se omilies stelexwn olwn twn kommatwn poy ginontai kata kairoys kai stis opoies paristantai boyleytes. Gia paradeigma, sthn paroysiash toy biblioy toy boyleyth X. Kastanidh, paristanto polloi boyleytes. Bebaiws kai sto xwro ths N.D., tis proalles, se omilia toy boyleyth Salma, paristanto polloi synadelfoi kai filoi toy. Ayta synhqizontai sto plaisio twn filikwn sxesewn kai toy politikoy endiaferontos.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenoi apo th symperifora twn melwn ths K.O. toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos endiaferetai gia ola ta zhthmata poy aforoyn to kybernhtiko ergo h to komma kai bebaiws, ws Proedros ths K.O. kai gia ta zhthmata poy thn aforoyn. Ayto poy mas endiaferei kaqe fora einai na kanoyme th doyleia mas swsta kai na th beltiwnoyme synexws, wste na einai xrhsimh kai apodotikh gia ta problhmata poy endiaferoyn ton ellhniko lao. Eimaste entagmenoi na yphretoyme ton ellhniko lao. Opoy yparxoyn adynamies, antapokrinomaste kai tis diorqwnoyme kata ton kalytero tropo.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ektimate oti kapoies symperifores symballoyn sthn enothta kai th synoxh gia thn opoia mas milhsate prohgoymenws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Efoson blepete oti emmenw staqera stis prohgoymenes dhlwseis moy, peritteyei h synexish ths syzhthshs. Ayta poy eixa na pw, ta eipa. To lew se sas poy eiste idiaiterws empeiros kai to katalabainete.

KONTOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh skopeyei na epitaxynei thn parembash ths sto qema twn thleoptikwn metrhsewn, meta tis nees apokalyceis; Thn problhmatizei to gegonos oti to qema to qetoyn olo kai perissoteroi boyleytes sth Boylh me eperwthseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh kaqorizei h idia to plaisio twn energeiwn ths. Den kaqorizetai apo th biasynh poy piqanon na exoyn oi endiaferomenoi. Exw ejaggeilei, safws, oti, meta thn chfish toy nomosxedioy gia to asymbibasto basikoy metoxoy, qa asxolhqoyme me to Proedriko Diatagma gia ton Kwdika Deontologias kai amesws meta, me ta qemata twn metrhsewn kai dhmoskophsewn. Emeis qa kaqorisoyme to pote qa ginei ayto kai den qa prosdioristoyme apo tritoys.

KARGOYDH: Qa epanelqw sthn prwtoboylia Papandreoy-Tzem. Pws thn apotima h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe prwtoboylia ginetai se sygkekrimeno plaisio kai exei ta qetika ths. Yparxei idiaitero endiaferon ths Elladas gia thn eirhneysh sth Mesh Anatolh, alla kai pera apo tis genikes kinhseis kai th sthrijh twn apofasewn toy OHE, poy egine me idiaitera qetiko tropo, elhfqhsan kai eidikes prwtoboylies, sxetikes me thn epilysh toy problhmatos poy exei dhmioyrghqei kai einai sobaro kai apasxolei to xristianiko kosmo me to Nao ths Gennhsews. Gnwrizete oti yphrje eidikh prwtoboylia gia th lysh toy problhmatos poy exei dhmioyrghqei me to Nao. Yphrje mia mikrh ejelijh sto qema, arxizoyn kapoies diapragmateyseis kai qelw na elpizw oti qa eyodwqoyn kai den qa yparjei kamia apeilh gi` ayto to shmantiko mnhmeio ths Xristianosynhs.

KARGOYDH: O k. Papandreoy exei labei kapoia diasfalish gia th leitoyrgia toy Naoy mexri to Pasxa;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ap` o,ti exw plhroforhqei, jekinoyn kapoies diapragmateyseis. H israhlinh pleyra dexqhke na metabei sthn Ieroysalhm ekproswpos twn Palaistiniwn kai na arxisoyn diapragmateyseis gia to qema ayto. Ara, oi diabebaiwseis oti proxwra o dialogos, ylopoioyntai. Apo kei kai pera, gnwrizete oti se tetoies periptwseis einai parakindyneymeno na prodikasei kaneis to apotelesma. Yparxei aisiodojia, alla as perimenoyme ta apotelesmata.

IWANNOY: H kybernhsh diaceydei to frastiko epeisodio poy, opws plhroforhqhkame apo boyleytes, synebh anamesa ston Proedro ths Boylhs Apostolo Kaklamanh kai to Grammatea toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy Swkrath Kosmidh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhsa xqes kai emaqa oti den yphrje tetoio qema. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths Boylhs pros toys synadelfoys sas.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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