Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-03-07

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Martioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KYRIAKIDOY: H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph anakoinwse xqes oti qa kanei mia ereyna, sxetika me piqanon paranomes xrhmatodothseis ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, oxi mono sth dekaetia toy ' 90, alla kai para poly prosfata. Ti exei na apanthsei ep` aytoy h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

XYTHRHS: H erwthsh sas den einai kala diatypwmenh, dioti emperiexei th lejh "paranomes".

KYRIAKIDOY: Ayto ereyna, piqanon paranomes.

XYTHRHS: "Piqanon"! H Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, pragmati, kanei mia ereyna gia kratikes xrhmatodothseis pros thn O.A. Asfalws, den einai parapomph. Einai ereyna. Einai mia diadikasia poy exei polla stadia. Kai h ellhnikh pleyra qa kataqesei tis apoceis ths, qa dieykrinisei poia einai h pragmatikothta.

MIXAHL: Oi prwtes epafes twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn me toys koinwnikoys etairoys gia to asfalistiko eginan. Kai me ta syndikata kai me toys ergodotes. Oi entypwseis ths kybernhshs, se prwto stadio, poies einai;

XYTHRHS: H kybernhsh xairetizei thn enarjh toy dialogoy, h opoia edeije qetikh prospaqeia apo oles tis pleyres. Proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na synexisei to dialogo se ayto to klima kai pisteyw oti ayth einai h proqesh kai olwn twn merwn. Den mporei na einai diaforetikh. Dioti to asfalistiko einai ena meizon qema poy apasxolei olh thn ellhnikh koinwnia, oloys toys ergazomenoys, afora kai shmera kai to mellon. Pisteyw oti qa epideixqei h eyqynh apo oloys, wste na yparjei to swsto apotelesma poy oloi qeloyme.

MIXAHL: Akoysame syndikalistes -thn Trith, toylaxiston, meta tis synanthseis poy ekanan oi kyrioi Reppas kai Spyropoylos- na miloyn gia "qola shmeia". Na zhtoyn dieykriniseis epi twn oswn toys anaptyje o ypoyrgos Ergasias. H kybernhsh pote qa einai se qesh na aposafhnisei plhrws kai leptomereiakws tis protaseis ths; To fernw ws paradeigma. Miloyn gia poly sygkekrimena metra kai leptomereies, opws to orio hlikias, kathgories asfalismenwn k.t.l. Ayta, apoteloyn antikeimeno enos dialogoy. Pote qa eiste se qesh na peite, "sto sygkekrimeno qema, ayto qa einai telikh mas qesh";

XYTHRHS: Apo th stigmh poy arxise o dialogos, shmainei oti ola qa syzhthqoyn sto plaisio aytoy. Den xreiazetai na yparxei apo kamia pleyra ek twn proterwn h paramikrh parembash.

MIXAHL: Isxyei h desmeysh ths kybernhshs oti qa xrhmatodothqei to systhma poy qa prokycei apo ton kratiko Proypologismo kai den qa anatrapei h trimerhs xrhmatodothsh toy;

XYTHRHS: Ola qa syzhthqoyn sto dialogo. Asfalws kai ayto. Kai asfalws -epeidh epimenete- isxyei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh, otan mia koinwnikh omada diamartyretai, qa synexisei na xrhsimopoiei ta MAT;

XYTHRHS: Ta MAT xrhsimopoioyntai otan ginontai paranomes energeies. Ayth einai h doyleia toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poia htan h xqesinh paranomia poy epiteqhkan me xhmika enantion twn agrotwn;

XYTHRHS: H paranomia htan oti, enw eprokeito na episkefqei to Megaro Majimoy -enw eleipe o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Iapwnia- mia antiproswpeia pente atomwn kai na paradwsoyn ena chfisma ston ypoyrgo Epikrateias St. Manika, opws eixe symfwnhqei, oi diadhlwtes qelhsan na spasoyn ton kloio ths Astynomias kai na kateyqynqoyn oloi sto Megaro Majimoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati; Kindyneye to Megaro Majimoy apo toys agrotes; Qa etrwgan ta ...ntoybaria; Ti qa ekanan;

XYTHRHS: Den kindyneyei kanenas apo toys agrotes. Kindyneyei, omws, h N.D., poy htan pisw apo toys sygkekrimenoys agrotes, na xasei th sobarothta ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo o,ti eida, mprosta htan kapoioi boyleytes.

XYTHRHS: Htan kai pisw kai mprosta. Pisw htan gia th diorganwsh ayths ths diamartyrias kai mprosta htan sth sygkentrwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, apagoreyetai se ena komma na kanei sygkentrwsh;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den apagoreyetai. Alla, tis synepeies prepei na tis dexetai, otan kanei sygkentrwseis kai otan kanei laqos kinhseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto epiteqhkan ta MAT; Epeidh htan h N.D. pisw epiteqhkan; Htan krymmenoi pisw kai den toys eblepan kai epiteqhkan stoys agrotes gia na toys broyne;

XYTHRHS: Sas ejhghsa ep` akribws giati egine ayto poy egine kai apo poioys proklhqhke.

MPOYATAR: Qa epanelqw sto qema ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Poies einai oi qeseis poy qa kataqesei h kybernhsh;

XYTHRHS: H kybernhsh qa kataqesei tis qeseis ths, otan klhqei, sta diafora stadia ayths ths diadikasias.

MPOYATAR: Poia einai h oysia aytwn twn qesewn;

XYTHRHS: Thn oysia twn qesewn qa thn ejhghsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, otan qa erqei h stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti apanta h kybernhsh sthn proklhtikh dhlwsh toy Etzebit; Milw gia th diekdikhsh ths diorganwshs toy EURO 2008.

XYTHRHS: Qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti h dhlwsh ayth einai gia eswterikh katanalwsh. Par@ olo oti egine apo to Mp. Etzebit, den einai mia epishmh qesh. H epishmh qesh ths Toyrkias, s@ ayto to qema, qa anakoinwqei stis 31 Maioy. Gnwrizete thn epishmh qesh ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Exei symfwnhqei metajy twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn twn dyo xwrwn G. Papandreoy kai I. Tzem. Den pisteyoyme oti mporei na anatrapei. Qewroyme oti einai oysiastikh h proseggish kai h synergasia gia th diorganwsh toy Eyrwpaikoy Kypelloy Podosfairoy toy 2008. Exei asfalws symboliko, alla kai oysiastiko xarakthra. An qelete na kanw mia yperbash, elpizoyme kai pisteyoyme na exei breqei h lysh toy Kypriakoy sto mesodiasthma kai oloklhrh h Kypros -giati oxi;- na mporei na symmetasxei sth diorganwsh ayth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Tzem einai anwteros toy k.Etzebit; O k. Etzebit einai o Prwqypoyrgos ths Toyrkias. Den einai epishmh ayth h qesh, otan bgainei o Prwqypoyrgos anoikta kai th diatypwnei; Perimenei ton k. Tzem stis 31 Maioy na ekfrasei thn epishmh qesh;

XYTHRHS: Den einai epishmh qesh, giati h epishmh qesh qa doqei apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias, mexri tis 31 Maioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis den thn qewreite epishmh.

XYTHRHS: Qewroyme oti mexri tote yparxei to periqwrio na to janaskeftei o k.Etzebit, etsi wste h epishmh qesh na einai ayth poy symfwnhsan oi dyo ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn.

POYLIDOY: Se poioys qa doqei h epishmh qesh;

XYTHRHS: Stoys ypeyqynoys toy Eyrwpaikoy Kypelloy Podosfairoy.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes o k.Karamanlhs, sthn omilia toy gia thn Olympiada, yposthrije oti yparxei elleimma programmatismoy kai oti h kybernhsh kineitai sth logikh ths teleytaias stigmhs, "opws-opws" alla kai "oso-oso". Exete kapoio sxolio;

XYTHRHS: O k. Karamanlhs milhse gia thn Olympiada sto synedrio toy ECONOMIST, poy diorganwnetai sto INTERCONTINENTAL. Anefere tis qeseis ths N.D., poy einai gnwstes allwste, gia thn proetoimasia ths Olympiadas. Metajy twn allwn, eipe oti "qa kathgorhqoyme apo thn kybernhsh oti eimaste gkriniarhdes". Gkriniarhdes; Ligo to kako. To gegonos oti kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh gia thn prospaqeia ths se oloys toys tomeis kai, enw diaceydontai, epimenoyn na kathgoroyn, ayto -pisteyw- ta leei ola. To lew ayto, giati tis idies kathgories, apo th N.D. kai ton Karamanlh, tis akoysame kata th diarkeia ths prospaqeias poy ekane h xwra mas gia thn entajh ths sthn ONE. H qesh ths N.D. htan, opws qymaste, arnhtikh. Pisteye oti kati tetoio den mporoyse na symbei. To idio synebh kai se polla alla qemata. Gia to METRO ths Aqhnas, otan oloklhrwqhke h kataskeyh toy, h N.D. eipe oti den ekteinetai se polla xiliometra. Gia to Aerodromio, otan leitoyrghse, eixe pei oti den yparxei eykolh prosbash se ayto. To idio symbainei, genika, gia opoia prospaqeia anaptyssei h kybernhsh. O k. Karamanlhs amfisbhtei o,ti paei na ginei. Apantame dhmosia ston k. Karamanlh kai toy leme oti, opws diaceysthke mexri shmera, qa diaceystei kai sto mellon. H Aqhna kai h Ellada allazoyn staqera pros to kalytero. H Attikh Odos qa oloklhrwqei, to Tram qa leitoyrghsei, o Perifereiakos Ymhttoy qa kataskeyastei. Opws kai o Perifereiakos ths Patras, opws h zeyjh Rioy-Antirrioy, opws o Dytikos Ajonas kai alla megala erga. Kaloyme ton k. Karamanlh na einai pio qetikos, dioti diaforetika qa antimetwpizetai me eyqymh diaqesh, otan arneitai ola ayta poy ginontai sth xwra mas.

TAKHS: O k. Benizelos, milwntas se ekpomph toy MEGA, proxqes to brady, afhse safestates aixmes gia ton tropo me ton opoio, to teleytaio diasthma, h kybernhsh xeiristhke ta ths basilikhs perioysias, gia thn etairia poy eixe epilegei gia na ektimhsei to ycos kai to megeqos ths basilikhs perioysias. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy; Qewreite oti ontws eginan lanqasmenes kinhseis apo thn kybernhsh to teleytaio diasthma, gia na fqasoyme sto shmeio shmera na prepei na plhrwsoyme ton tews;

XYTHRHS: Prwton, qewrw oti den afhse aixmes, opws lete, o k. Benizelos...

TAKHS: Safestates htan.

XYTHRHS: Deyteron, opws gnwrizete, to qema brisketai sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio kai qa doyme poia qa einai h telikh apofash toys prosexeis mhnes. Legetai oti mporei na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia mexri to kalokairi h to fqinopwro. Epi ths oysias, ayto poy exei apomeinei ston tews einai na parei xrhmata apo ton ellhniko lao. Ayto toy exei apomeinei kai ayto epidiwkei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios ftaiei poy qa parei xrhmata apo ton ellhniko lao; Mhpws oi xeirismoi ths kybernhshs Shmith;

XYTHRHS: As perimenoyme thn apofash toy dikasthrioy. Shmasia exei oti exoyme teleiwsei me th basileia kai me ton tews. H teleytaia prajh toy apenanti ston ellhniko lao einai ayth, h oikonomikh enisxysh toy. Ayto toy apemeine kai ayto epidiwkei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, exete apofasisei thn oikonomikh enisxysh toy tews;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa na perimenoyme thn apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Hqela to sxolio sas ws pros to oti ta Skopia katebainoyn sto diagwnismo ths Gioyrobizion me to onoma "Makedonia".

XYTHRHS: Qa prepei na akoysoyme to tragoydi prwta kai meta na to sxoliasoyme. Gnwrizete oti h apodekth onomasia ths xwras ayths einai FYROM. Epishs, gnwrizete oti ta Skopia epimenoyn sthn onomasia, ayth poy eipate. Kainoyrgia onomasia den exei doqei. H sxetikh diadikasia brisketai sto plaisio toy OHE. Ta Skopia epimenoyn na aytoonomazontai etsi. Omws, h epishmh kai typikh onomasia toys einai FYROM.

Sas eyxaristw.

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