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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Oktwbrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Mporeite na mas dwsete to xronodiagramma twn kinhsewn poy exoyn proanaggelqei gia meta to Synedrio toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti thn epomenh ebdomada, o Prwqypoyrgos prepei na labei meros sthn ektakth Synodo Koryfhs ths E.E.. Th meqepomenh ebdomada, to trito dekahmero toy Oktwbrioy, pleon, qa sygkrothqoyn ta kommatika organa, h K.E., meta thn anadeijh twn melwn ths apo to Synedrio, qa ginei h eklogh toy E.G. kai o Prwqypoyrgos exei th dynatothta, thn periodo ekeinh, na kanei kai tis epiloges toy, me tis apofaseis poy qa parei, gia qemata poy aforoyn thn kybernhsh.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Exw dyo erwthseis gia dyo diaforetika qemata. Qa hqela eyqews na sas rwthsw, logw ths dieqnoys katastashs, opws diamorfwnetai, yparxei kapoia skech na paei pio pisw o anasxhmatismos h o,ti exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos qa ginei;

REPPAS: Isxyoyn ayta ta opoia exw apanthsei kai se alles analoges erwthseis. Allwste, ayto to nohma exei h apanthsh poy edwsa sto erwthma toy k. Antypa. O sxediasmos paramenei, etsi opws exei ejaggelqei kai qa efarmostei.

LEONTOPOYLOS: H deyterh erwthsh einai ligo pio genikh. Blepoyme twra oti meta thn enarjh twn bombardismwn sto Afganistan kai me oles aytes tis diadhlwseis se perissoteres ths mias xwrwn, twn legomenwn fanatikwn islamistwn, diafainetai mia katastash opoy yparxei o kindynos na exoyme mia ektetamenh apostaqeropoihsh se pagkosmio epipedo. H xwra mas einai mia fileirhnikh xwra kai to exei apodeijei. Yparxei kapoios sxediasmos sto myalo sas, stis syskeceis poy kanete, gia na symbaloyme, wste estw na mhn pame sto peraiterw; Dhladh ti prwtoboylies qa parei h Ellada pros thn kateyqynsh ths eirhnhs kai ths staqerothtas;

REPPAS: Epanalambanw oti o polemos den einai mia dhmofilhs epilogh. Den prepei na mas diafeygei, omws, oti mia tromokratikh epiqesh ayths ths klimakas den mporei na meinei anapanthth. Prepei na xrhsimopoihqoyn ola ta mesa, prokeimenoy h apanthsh ayth na einai apotelesmatikh, na einai h telikh prajh se ena skhniko poy dhmioyrghsan oi tromokrates, ena skhniko tromoy kai foboy panw sthn pagkosmia koinothta. Qa prepei na mhn afhsoyme ekkremothta, oson afora to qema ayto. Kata ta alla, gnwrizete oti den yparxei antiparaqesh metajy politismwn, qrhskeiwn h eqnwn. Ayto prepei pantote na to tonizoyme, para to oti ena qrhskeytiko ypostrwma odhgei para polloys se xwres ths Asias na kanoyn tis politikes epiloges toys, jekinwntas apo aytes tis afethries poy exoyn mia anagwgh sto qrhskeyma toys. Pisteyw oti einai jekaqaro pleon pws o sygxronos politismos qa prepei na kinhqei -prokeimenoy na parameinei zwntanos- sebomenos tis arxes poy kai h E.E. exei anadeijei sthn apofash poy phre stis 14 Septembrioy. Pisteyw, loipon, oti ayth h prospaqeia gia thn antimetwpish kai thn ejaleich ths tromokratias, qa prepei na synodeyetai apo prwtoboylies kai se alla epipeda. Kai se politiko kai diplwmatiko, alla kai se anqrwpistiko epipedo. Allwste tetoia qemata eqese sto prosfato Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn kai o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Sthn prwth fash kanoyme prospaqeia na ejaleicoyme ta tromokratika diktya, na antimetwpisoyme toys tromokrates, se mia epomenh fash -kai ayth h prospaqeia prepei na einai diarkhs- qa prepei na kataballoyme prospaqeia, wste na entajoyme se ayto to pagkosmio systhma megala tmhmata toy plhqysmoy ths ghs poy shmera dystyxoyn kai orgizontai. Qa prepei ena pagkosmio metwpo kata ths tromokratias na synodeyetai kai na symplhrwnetai apo ena pagkosmio metwpo dikaiosynhs kai eyhmerias gia toys polites oloy toy kosmoy. Se aytes tis qeseis exoyme parameinei kai oi prwtoboylies poy analambanontai prepei na kinoyntai se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Ayth einai kai h dikh mas qesh. Alla, ayth thn wra, sth fash poy eimaste, qa prepei na kanoyme ta panta, wste na ejaleicoyme ta tromokratika diktya. Giati, ean epikrathsei o fobos panw ston planhth, qa paralysei h anqrwpinh zwh. Gia na mhn pw oti oso yparxei tromokratia, yparxei kai kindynos gia thn anqrwpinh zwh, ayth thn idia thn anqrwpinh zwh.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Jerete giati ekana ayth thn erwthsh; Akoyme kyriws apo th meria twn Amerikanwn iqynontwn, opws p.x. toy yfypoyrgoy Amynas, oti den einai mono stoxos mas to Afganistan, alla kai alles xwres. H Eyrwph apofasise na apofeyxqoyn oso to dynato ginetai anqrwpines zwes. Edw, omws, blepoyme oti kapoies antilhceis, pera apo thn epikindynothta poy exoyn san politikh prooptikh, qa baloyn ton kosmo se ena kyklo bias kai aimatos poy kaneis den mporei apo twra na milhsei gia to poy qa paei ayth h katastash.

REPPAS: Eipame oti o agwnas ginetai gia na timwrhqoyn oi ypaitioi ths tromokratikhs epiqeshs ths 11hs Septembrioy. Omws -kai to tonisa me emfash ayto, arketes fores- o agwnas aytos ginetai gia thn ejaleich twn tromokratikwn diktywn, opoy yparxoyn kai droyn. Den einai agwnas mono gia ton Mpin Lanten. O Mpin Lanten, h "Al Kainta", ta stelexh ths, einai o stoxos se ayth th fash. Alla, o agwnas einai synexhs se ola ta metwpa, se kaqe gwnia toy planhth, enantion tromokratikwn diktywn, opoy ayta yparxoyn. Ayto den prepei na mas diafeygei. Alliws, qa epikrathsei o fobos kai o zofos ston planhth mas. Kai ayto prepei na to prolaboyme.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h tromokratia einai mia asymmetrh apeilh, opws exoyme kai exete pei, alla kai o biologikos polemos einai mia asymmetrh apeilh. Ola ta MME shmera kai ola ta prwtoselida, kanoyn logo gi` aytoys toys kindynoys. Qelw na moy peite, ean anhsyxoyn thn kybernhsh, ean exete kapoies perissoteres plhrofories kai ti metra protiqeste na parete;

REPPAS: To ypoyrgeio Ygeias ths xwras mas exei asxolhqei me to qema ayto. Exei dhmioyrghsei ena plaisio politikhs. Antilambaneste pws o kindynos poy prokyptei apo mia endexomenh xrhsimopoihsh biologikwn oplwn, einai terastios. Den mporei na antimetwpistei ayto to opoio qa prokycei ws synepeia. Kalo einai na prolaboyme opoiadhpote tetoia apopeira. H anhsyxia h dikh mas einai sto idio mhkos kymatos me thn anhsyxia twn politwn se alles gwnies ths Eyrwphs h ths Amerikhs. Pisteyoyme oti oso ki an einai paralogo, aproblepto kai ayqaireto ayto poy kanei enas tromokraths, h ayqairesia toy ayth den qa fqasei se tetoio shmeio, wste na odhghqei sth xrhsimopoihsh biologikwn oplwn.

GKROMAN: Hqela na rwthsw, sxetika me to tajidi toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sthn Kwnstantinoypolh kai th synanthsh toy me ton Patriarxh. Yparxei kapoia protash gia sygklhsh qrhskeytikwn hgetwn, ypo thn aigida toy Patriarxh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio exei analabei, edw kai arketa xronia, prwtoboylia gia dialogo metajy twn qrhskeytikwn hgetwn. Malista, to 1994 eixe syntaxqei h legomenh Diakhryjh toy Bosporoy. Argotera, gia to idio qema, eixe sygklhqei sxetikh diaskech sto Seragebo ths Bosnias. Oi diaskeceis aytes exoyn stoxo na feroyn se epikoinwnia kai dialogo toys ekproswpoys twn diaforwn qrhskeiwn, sthn kateyqynsh katalaghs kai ths antallaghs apocewn, prokeimenoy na jeperastoyn akraia fainomena fanatismoy, me opoies arnhtikes synepeies exoyn, otan ekdhlwnontai. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas eixe diatypwsei enan problhmatismo kata tis syzhthseis poy eixe -h episkech toy egine prosfata sth Mesh Anatolh- kai me ton k. Arafat kai me ton k. Peres, opws epishs kai me ton k. Ibanof, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias, ton opoio epishs episkefqhke prosfata. Syzhthse to qema ayto me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, ton k. Pronti. O Oikoymenikos Patriarxhs syzhta shmera me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas -o opoios ayth thn wra prepei na paraxwrei kai sxetikh synenteyjh Typoy- gia to qema ayto. Pisteyoyme oti einai mia qetikh prwtoboylia, epeidh exoyme, kat` epanalhch, tonisei oti den tiqetai qema antiparaqeshs metajy qrhskeiwn. Isa-isa, oles oi qrhskeies ejymnoyn thn ajia ths zwhs toy anqrwpoy. H anqrwpinh yparjh einai yperanw olwn. Me ayth thn ennoia, pisteyoyme oti o dialogos aytos, aythn idiaiterws thn periodo, einai xrhsimos.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean gnwrizete telika an qa einai proskeklhmenos toy Synedrioy toy kybernwntos kommatos o k. Arafat kai an alhqeyei mia plhroforia oti anamenetai shmera sthn Ellada.

REPPAS: O k. Arafat einai proskeklhmenos, opws kai alles proswpikothtes. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai na antapokriqoyn sthn prosklhsh oloi oi hgetes, oi proswpikothtes, metajy twn opoiwn einai kai o k. Arafat. Antilambaneste oti h periodos ayth einai idiaiterws krisimh, opws epishs antilambaneste oti, gia logoys asfaleias, den einai dynato na ekdidontai anakoinwseis gia tis kinhseis toy k. Arafat. Qa anamenoyme pws qa ejelixqoyn ta pragmata. Qa to gnwrizoyme ayrio sto Synedrio mas. Emeis, eyxomaste kai elpizoyme na einai parontes sto Synedrio mas o k. Arafat kai o k. Peres, o opoios epishs exei prosklhqei. Pisteyoyme oti einai mia prwths tajews eykairia, oi dyo politikoi poy paizoyn poly shmantiko rolo kai se megalo baqmo diamorfwnoyn tis ejelijeis sto poly qermo pedio ths Meshs Anatolhs na einai parontes sto Synedrio mas. Ayto, omws, einai kati to opoio, ayth thn wra poy syzhtame, den mporei na to pei kaneis kathgorhmatika.

ANANIADHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia thn prwtoboylia toy YPEJ, ean yphrje kapoia synennohsh, enhmerwsh, toy Arxiepiskopoy h an anhsyxei h kybernhsh, mhpws oi kakes sxeseis toy Arxiepiskopoy Aqhnwn me to Fanari, ayth thn periodo, ephreasoyn arnhtika thn prwtoboylia. Kai mia deyterh erwthsh: Poioi politikoi logoi einai telika ekeinoi poy epebalan thn anabolh ths askhshs "NIKHFOROS-TOJOTHS";

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, den epiqymw na yioqethsw th qesh, to xarakthrismo, oti einai kakes oi sxeseis toy Patriarxeioy me thn Ekklhsia ths Elladas. Emeis pisteyoyme oti to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio kai h Orqodojh Ekklhsia ths Elladas einai akrogwniaioi liqoi ths Orqodojias kai o rolos toys einai poly shmantikos, prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyn sthn apostolh toys, oi opoy ghs Orqodojoi pistoi. Ayto to opoio, epishs, exei shmasia einai na pw, gia mia akomh fora, oti h Orqodojh Ekklhsia, h Ekklhsia ths Elladas exei na diadramatisei poly shmantiko pneymatiko rolo, otan kineitai entos toy kanonikoy plaisioy. Emeis pantote epiqymoyme na askeitai aytos o rolos, giati einai pros to symferon kai toy ellhnikoy Eqnoys. Oson afora th sygkekrimenh prwtoboylia, asfalws h Ekklhsia ths Elladas qa exei th dikh ths paroysia kai symmetoxh se opoies analoges ejelijeis, opws egine kai sto parelqon.

ANANIADHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean eixe enhmerwqei o Arxiepiskopos gia thn prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn na synanthsei ton Patriarxh.

REPPAS: Yphrje, xqes, epikoinwnia gia to qema ayto. Pantws, h prwtoboylia poy eixe analabei gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio, edw kai arketa xronia, kaqista peripoy monodromo thn epikoinwnia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio.

Oson afora, twra, tis sygkekrimenes anafores sthn askhsh ``NIKHFOROS'', prepei na poyme oti h askhsh ayth poy pragmatopoieitai ayth thn periodo (15-20 Oktwbrioy) kai problepei th symmetoxh xersaiwn dynamewn ths Eqnikhs Froyras ths Kyproy, qa ginei kanonika. H askhsh poy exei xarakthra aeronaytiko kriqhke skopimo, meta apo synennohsh twn dyo kybernhsewn, oti den prepei na ginei, toylaxiston se ayth th fash. Metatiqetai xronika, den mataiwnetai. Kai ayto, giati prepei na parameinoyn eleyqeroi oi aerodiadromoi sthn perioxh ayth, metajy Krhths kai Kyproy. Epeidh, akribws tiqetai ena qema, prepei na pw oti h askhsh ``NIKHFOROS-TOJOTHS" ginotan ypo to prisma toy Dogmatos toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy. Sas eixa tonisei, otan eixame janasyzhthsei ayto to qema, oti h askhsh ayth den strefetai enantion tritoy. Eixan diatypwqei kapoies skeceis gia anabolh ayths ths askhshs, epeidh h diejagwgh ths mporoyse na qewrhqei oti apotelei ena mhnyma exqriko pros mia allh pleyra, pros thn Toyrkia kai oti mporoyse na dhmioyrghsei entash. Kati tetoio den ginetai dekto, giati den yfistatai. Exei prokycei, omws, ena neo dedomeno. Ayto to neo dedomeno einai h stratiwtikh epixeirhsh ths 7hs Oktwbrioy, ths prohgoymenhs Kyriakhs. Den yphrxe ayto to stoixeio, otan eixame syzhthsei gia thn askhsh ``NIKHFOROS-TOJOTHS'', edw kai 15 hmeres. Ypo to fws twn newn dedomenwn, elhfqh ayth h apofash gia th xronikh metaqesh ths askhshs, poy pisteyoyme oti apotelei mia poly ypeyqynh kai eqnika symferoysa epilogh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean qa efarmostei h apofash toy StE gia to oikogeneiako epidoma kai gia toys dyo syzygoys, to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos eixe yposxeqei prin apo th Dieqnh Ekqesh ths Qessalonikhs kai malista eixe pei oti ayta ta xrhmata qa doqoyn kai anadromika.

REPPAS: H apofash toy StE, asfalws, qa efarmostei. Qa tyxei efarmoghs mesa sto 2002. Apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs ayth thn periodo, enocei ths katartishs toy telikoy sxedioy toy Proypologismoy, pws qa antimetwpisoyme stis leptomereies toy to qema ayto. Alla, oti qa efarmostei ayth h apofash kai oti qa doqei to epidoma ayto einai kati poy den xwra amfisbhthsh. Asfalws, kai qa ginei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prin apo ta egkainia ths DEQ o Prwqypoyrgos eixe kanei dhlwseis sto Zappeio kai eixe pei pws qa doqei twra. Eixe pei malista oti qa doqoyn kai anadromika.

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Eixe pei oti qa antapokriqoyme. H apofash toy StE asfalws qa efarmostei. Einai qema poy mas apasxolei. Exoyme desmeyqei na thn efarmosoyme. Sas janalew oti mesa sto 2002 qa tyxei efarmoghs ayth h apofash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelw, epishs, na rwthsw gia ta 50 disekatommyria, ta 146 ekatommyria EYRW, poy zhta pisw h E.E. gia to Kthmatologio, apo poio logariasmo qa epistrafoyn;

REPPAS: Den prepei na protrexete. Gnwrizete kala oti h xwra mas exei th dynatothta na prosfygei sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Pisteyoyme oti ta stoixeia ta opoia qa paroysiasoyme einai poly shmantika kai tekmhriwnoyn th qesh mas oti den yfistatai ypoxrewsh epistrofhs xrhmatwn. Otan yparjei telikh apofash, tote na syzhthsoyme pali. Mexri tote, sas parakalw na yperaspizeste thn ellhnikh qesh, oti den xreiazetai na epistrafoyn ayta ta xrhmata, doqentos oti epikeitai h prosfygh ths xwras mas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Den einai kati poy prepei na syzhtoyme twra kai malista me ayto ton tropo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn kapoioi oi opoioi ayta ta xrhmata den ta xrhsimopoihsan kanonika. Gi ayto yparxei to problhma. Ti ennoeite qa toys kalycoyme; Ayto lete; Na kalycoyme aytoys poy lehlathsan ta xrhmata gia to Kthmatologio;

REPPAS: Oydeis lehlathse xrhmata h to Kthmatologio, opws eipate eseis. Gnwrizete poly kala, giati exei analyqei apo toys epikefalhs ths Anwnymhs Etaireias toy Kthmatologioy, pws exei to qema: Ta programmata aforoysan dyskoles perioxes, dyskola pedia, otan prwtojekinhsan, prokeimenoy na yparjei enas pilotikos xarakthras twn programmatwn aytwn kai na xrhsimopoihqei h empeiria poy sto metajy qa eixe apokthqei gia ta epomena stadia, gia tis epomenes faseis. Gnwrizete oti ena poly megalo problhma, opws einai ayto gia th syntajh toy Eqnikoy Kthmatologioy, otan den proyparxei sxetikh gnwsh kai peira, synanta para polles dyskolies.

Gia prwth fora to episthmoniko dynamiko toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy katapiasthke me ena tetoio qema. Mhn ypotimate tis dyskolies poy prokyptoyn kata thn prwth enasxolhsh me ena toso shmantiko zhthma. Ola ta alla qemata poy aforoyn oikonomikes dosolhcies qa ta antimetwpisoyme me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Qa ajiopoihsoyme ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas, metajy twn allwn, prosfeygontas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, gia na diatypwsoyme ekei me tekmhriwmeno tropo tis qeseis mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qa kanei diaxeiristiko elegxo sthn Kthmatologio A.E.;

REPPAS: Exoyn doqei apanthseis se ola ayta ta qemata. Antiqetws, den exoyn doqei apanthseis sta erwthmata poy exei qesei o k. Laliwths. Prokeitai gia seira erwthmatwn, ta opoia mexri shmera paramenoyn anapanthta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwthsa ean qa ginei diaxeiristikos elegxos.

REPPAS: O elegxos einai synexhs. Kai ta apotelesmata aytwn twn elegxwn einai epishs gnwsta. Epanerxeste se ena qema, to opoio exei antimetwpistei. Einai gnwsta ta oikonomika megeqh. Den yparxei kati poy na mhn exei anaferqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, h kybernhsh gnwrize oti edinan 80 ekatommyria gia loyloydia h 350 ekatommyria gia na ftiajoyn ta grafeia toys, ston k. Synadino;

REPPAS: Ean qa prepei na syzhtoyme se ayto to epipedo, den miloyme pleon gia thn poreia katartishs toy Kthmatologioy, milame gia kati allo...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws de milame; Qelete na toys kalycete, dhladh;

REPPAS: Sas parakalw. Ola ayta exoyn syzhthqei, exoyn anaferqei kai den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia, ayta poy lete eseis, peri loyloydiwn k.lp. Mhn prospaqeite na dhmioyrghsete entypwseis.

BITALHS: Eipate prohgoymenws, anaferomenos sto pagkosmio metwpo kata ths tromokratias, oti se ayth th fash den prepei na meinoyn ekkremothtes, prepei na ejoydeterwqoyn ta tromokratika diktya. H amerikanikh pleyra exei milhsei, toylaxiston, gia 60 xwres opoy droyn tromokratika diktya kai qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Exete enhmerwsh, ws kybernhsh, apo tis HPA, gia to poy kai pws skeptontai na drasoyn, meta to Afganistan;

REPPAS: Oi dyo kybernhseis, mesw twn armodiwn paragontwn, epikoinwnoyn kai syzhtoyn ta sxetika qemata. Alla, opws gnwrizete, se aytes tis periptwseis den synhqizetai na probainoyn se dhmosies anakoinwseis gia tetoioy eidoys qemata.

Sas eyxaristw.

SHMEIWSH: H ayrianh politikh enhmerwsh qa ginei stis 12.00.

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