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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Septembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Parathroyme oloi thn prospaqeia ths Neas Dhmokratias na odhghsei se politikh ojynsh, poy einai apolytws epizhmia. Oloi antilambanontai toys logoys poy thn odhgoyn se aythn thn epilogh. Oi polites, o laos den symmerizetai ayth thn aneyqynh stash, poy einai apotelesma ths apogohteyshs ths Neas Dhmokratias, logw ths aneparkeias ths.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Anejarthta apo th skopimothta ths Neas Dhmokratias, epi ths oysias, yparxei ena problhma. Yparxei ena porisma poy me kapoio tropo, pera apo th diarroh, bghkan kai kapoia stoixeia. H Kybernhsh, epi twn oswn anaferontai, exei na pei kati;

REPPAS: Prwton, den prokeitai gia porisma, opws eipe kai o Proedros ths Boylhs. Deyteron, den exei doqei sth dhmosiothta h toylaxiston den exoyn dhmosiopoihqei stoixeia aytoy toy eggrafoy, ta opoia na anagnwrizoyme ws tetoia, afoy den gnwrizoyme poio einai ayto to eggrafo. Gnwrizete oti ola ayta ta sxetika qemata, ta qemata poy aforoyn to Xrhmatisthrio kai th leitoyrgia toy kata thn prohgoymenh periodo, exoyn syzhthqei kat' epanalhch se progenestero xrono kai se diafora epipeda. Toso sto plaisio twn armodiwn koinoboyleytikwn epitropwn -idiaiterws sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs- oso kai kata th diarkeia ths ektetamenhs syzhthshs sth Boylh, me aformh thn protash momfhs ths Neas Dhmokratias. Epishs, ta sxetika me to Xrhmatisthrio qemata, apotelesan antikeimeno dekadwn erwthsewn poy katateqhkan sth Boylh apo thn antipoliteysh, erwthseis stis opoies doqhke apanthsh apo thn Kybernhsh. Bebaiws, o dhmosios dialogos gia to qema ayto htan idiaiterws ektetamenos. Den exei prokycei kapoio neo stoixeio, peran twn stoixeiwn, ta opoia aforoyn ekeinh thn periodo gia thn opoia, opws eipa prin, egine logos se polla organa ths Boylhs, sthn Olomeleia ths kai se Epitropes, kat' epanalhch. Ayto to opoio mporei kaneis na bgalei abiasta ws symperasma, einai oti h N.D. akoloyqei mia politikh meqodeysh, thn opoia, opws fainetai, exei sxediasei. Exei ependysei sthn ptwsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Epixeirei na yponomeysei thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Einai fanerh h skopimothta ayths ths epiloghs ths, enocei ths Dieqnoys Ekqesews Qessalonikhs. Pisteyoyme oti h aneyqynothta kai h politikh sykofantia einai ta mona opla poy exoyn apomeinei sth Nea Dhmokratia. Kai ayto to katadikazoyme. Epishs -kai den einai amelhteo ayto- to erwthma paramenei anapanthto. Pws einai dynaton, ena stelexos ths N.D. na gnwstopoiei dhmosiws mia plhroforia poy exei kata tropo pronomiako; Plhroforia poy den exoyn oi alloi, oi opoioi -qa elege kaneis- einai kai amesa endiaferomenoi. Ayto dhmioyrgei erwthmata, ta opoia den exoyn apanthqei. Gnwrizete poly kala, opws eipe kai o Proedros ths Boylhs, oti symfwna me ton Kanonismo, opoiodhpote tetoio yliko anakoinwnetai sth Boylh kata th leitoyrgia ths Olomeleias toy Swmatos kai oxi sth diarkeia ths leitoyrgias twn Tmhmatwn ths Boylhs. Pros ti, loipon, ayth h prospaqeia dhmioyrgias entypwsewn; H apanthsh einai profanhs: H Nea Dhmokratia, apogohteymenh apo tis prosfates politikes ejelijeis, epixeirei na plhjei thn Kybernhsh, adiaforwntas gia ta symferonta twn ependytwn toy Xrhmatisthrioy, adiaforwntas gia to Xrhmatisthrio, adiaforwntas gia thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, giati to dogma ths politikhs ths den einai allo apo to "gaia pyri meixqhtw". Ayto to katadikazoyme.

MIXAHL: Sth dhlwsh poy kanate xqes, ypainixqhkate sthn teleytaia ths protash oti endexomenws h plhroforia toy k. Ebert na proerxetai kai apo dikastikoys kykloys. Milhsate gia poinikopoihsh ths politikhs zwhs. Exete ypoch sas tetoia stoixeia; Mporeite na mas ta koinopoihsete;

REPPAS: Katadikazoyme aperifrasta toso thn poinikopoihsh ths politikhs, oso kai thn politikopoihsh ths Dikaiosynhs. H pragmatikothta einai poly aplh kai kaqenas mporei na bgalei ta symperasmata toy meletwntas ta stoixeia poy thn synqetoyn. To sxetiko eggrafo to exei sth diaqesh toy o Proedros ths Boylhs. S' ayton estalh apo eisaggeliko leitoyrgo xwris th mesolabhsh proistamenwn Arxwn h allhs Yphresias. O k. Ebert den exei apanthsei akoma gia to poios einai aytos poy toy edwse tis plhrofories: O Proedros ths Boylhs h eisaggelikos leitoyrgos ths anejarthths Dikaiosynhs; Ta symperasmata einai dika sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite me ayto to teleytaio poy eipate; Ti ennoeite otan lete "o Proedros ths Boylhs h eisaggelikos leitoyrgos"; Dhladh aytoi oi dyo anqrwpoi h o enas h o allos einai royfianoi toy Ebert;

REPPAS: Ayto einai symperasma poy bgazete eseis. Den eipa egw kati tetoio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis lete oti enas apo toys dyo exei dwsei ston k. Ebert ta stoixeia. Dhladh, kapoios apo toys dyo einai ypoptos. @H o

k. Kaklamanhs h o k. Asprogerakas.

REPPAS: Sthn erwthsh ayth exei klhqei na apanthsei o k. Ebert, o opoios den exei dwsei apanthsh. Eseis kaleiste na apanthsete sthn erwthsh thn opoia sas qetw eyqews: Apo poy exei ta stoixeia o k. Ebert; Apo poy exei aytes tis plhrofories;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto einai to problhma sas;

REPPAS: Fainetai oti einai diko sas problhma, giati ejaireite apo tis phges plhroforhshs toy k. Ebert, toso ton k. Kaklamanh, oso kai ton eisaggeliko leitoyrgo. Prepei na peite, loipon, poios einai ekeinos poy, opws ola ta stoixeia deixnoyn, den gnwrize ayto to yliko, para tayta plhroforhse gi' ayto to yliko ton k. Ebert, afoy ola ta stoixeia martyroyn oti dyo mono gnwrizan to sygkekrimeno eggrafo. Poios einai, loipon, o tritos poy gnwrize kai plhroforhse ton k. Ebert;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto sas enoxlei; Poios plhroforhse ton k. Ebert h h oysia toy qematos;

REPPAS: Gia thn oysia apanthsa kai qa epanelqw se epi ths oysias erwthmata. To erwthma poy qesate eseis htan ep' aytoy toy zhthmatos. Se ayto to zhthma, loipon, klhqhka na dwsw apanthsh. Den mporei na me rwtate gia kati kai taytoxrona na moy askeite kritikh. Eseis qesate ayth thn erwthsh. H erwthsh sthn opoia eprepe na apanthsw anaferotan se ayto to qema kai oxi se allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis qetete to qema gia to poios enhmerwse ton k. Ebert. Dhladh, otan bgazei enas ena eggrafo se mia efhmerida, prepei na leei o allos poios toy to edwse; Na "karfwnei", dhladh; Qelei na bgalei kapoio aporrhto, na "karfwnei" poios toy to edwse;

REPPAS: Ti sxesh exei h leitoyrgia ths anejarthths Dikaiosynhs, h opoia synergazetai me ton Proedro ths Boylhs sto plaisio mias sygkekrimenhs diadikasias poy problepetai rhta apo to Syntagma kai toys nomoys, me ola ayta ta opoia eseis anaferete; Den exei kamia sxesh.

Me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, qa hqela na prosqesw oti einai gnwsto, afoy safws perilambanetai ston Kanonismo ths Boylhs, pws tetoioy eidoys eggrafa anakoinwnontai sth Boylh sto plaisio ths Olomeleias toy Swmatos kai oxi kata th leitoyrgia twn Tmhmatwn. Ayto to gnwrizoyn, bebaiws, oi eisaggelikoi leitoyrgoi. Otan stelnoyn sth Boylh sxetiko yliko, ayto qa anakoinwqei meta thn enarjh twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias toy Swmatos kai oxi kata th leitoyrgia twn Tmhmatwn. Bebaiws, einai dikaiwma toy eisaggelikoy leitoyrgoy na aposteilei to yliko otan ekeinos to apofasisei. Alla yparxei mia parathrhsh, thn opoia ajizei na kanw. Ayto to opoio den epitrepetai, omws, einai na dhmioyrgeitai qema kai malista na diatypwnetai h kathgoria oti "epimelws" apokryptetai ayto to yliko apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs. Kathgoreitai, telikws, o Proedros ths Boylhs giati kanei to kaqhkon toy. Giati ayto poy kanei einai symfwno me ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs. Ekei ftasame.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo thn allh pleyra, eseis lete oti o Proedros ths Boylhs mporei na to edwse ston k. Ebert plagiws gia na dhmioyrghqei ayto to qema. Ayto den lete;

REPPAS: Xqes, o k. Kaklamanhs edwse mia apanthsh, sthn opoia sas kalw na entryfhsete. O k. Kaklamanhs eipe oti einai "tzwras", xrhsimopoihse mia lejh poy sas einai gnwsth, gi' ayto kai thn epanalambanw. Eipe oti bebaiws aytos se oydenan exei dwsei sxetikes plhrofories kai anaferomenos se allh palaioterh ypoqesh eipe oti fainetai pws kapoioi apo thn antipoliteysh exoyn kalyterh prosbash se organa ths kata ta alla anejarthths Dikaiosynhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Alla eseis, omws, ton kathgoreite ton k. Kaklamanh. Anaferete to onoma toy. Lete "o Proedros ths Boylhs". Afoy o idios leei "egw den to edwsa", den lete oti to edwse o dikastikos leitoyrgos, afhnete aixmes gia ton k. Kaklamanh.

REPPAS: Ton k. Kaklamanh ton ekqetoyn kai dhmioyrgoyn problhmata sto kyros toy qesmoy ekeinoi poy den dinoyn sygkekrimenh apanthsh, poy den apokleioyn ayto poy oloi gnwrizoyme: Oti, dhladh, o k. Kaklamanhs einai aytos poy mporei na exei dwsei tis sxetikes plhrofories. As to poyn kathgorhmatika gia na ton prostateysoyn, opws epixeireite ki eseis ayth thn wra, kati poy den exei anagkh bebaiws.

IWANNOY: Qelw ena sxolio, gia to klima poy yparxei sth Qessalonikh, enocei ths anodoy sas -toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai melwn ths kybernhshs- sth symprwteyoysa. Kai sygkekrimena gia tis afises poy exoyn arxisei na kolloyn opadoi ths N.D., kaqws kai gia tis sygkentrwseis poy proetoimazontai mesa se ayto to fortismeno klima.

REPPAS: Prepei na exoyme ypoch mas oti h N.D. -anaferomenh se erga ths Qessalonikhs ta opoia h kybernhsh exei programmatisei- mila gia "lista anamonhs", sthn opoia periexontai ola ayta ta erga. Se lista anamonhs brisketai, edw kai polla xronia, h N.D., perimenontas na thn chfisei o ellhnikos laos gia na ginei kybernhsh. Alla, me thn politikh poy telikws akoloyqei h lista anamonhs qa metatrapei se lista monimhs paramonhs ths sthn antipoliteysh. Giati, h N.D. exei gnwsh twn prwtoboyliwn ths kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths Qessalonikhs. Kyriws, omws, tis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs tis gnwrizoyn oi polites ths Qessalonikhs. Kai ayto einai poy mas arkei.

Oson afora, tis sygkentrwseis, milhsame gi ayto to qema xqes. Sthn Ellada h eleyqeria ths ekfrashs einai dedomenh. Einai kekthmeno poy oydeis amfisbhtei. Einai akwlyth h diadhlwsh twn idewn kai h ekdhlwsh twn fronhmatwn twn politwn, sto plaisio poy orizoyn to Syntagma kai oi nomoi. Katadikazoyme prajeis bias. Pisteyoyme oti h eleyqeria na kineitai kaqenas me dikh toy prwtoboylia sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos, pairnei pantote ypoch ths thn eleyqeria poy exei kaqe allos poliths na ajiopoiei kai ekeinos ta dikaiwmata poy toy parexoyn to Syntagma kai oi nomoi toy kratoys. Kai se teleytaia analysh, afoy epanerxomaste se ayto to qema, qelw na qesw na rwthsw: Oi sygkentrwseis aytes ginontai ws ekdhlwsh enantiwshs sth legomenh pagkosmiopoihsh; An nai, einai h DEQ o topos, o xwros, o xronos gia thn ekdhlwsh aytwn twn apocewn enantion ths legomenhs pagkosmiopoihshs; Strefetai enantion ths kybernhshs; Kai einai o xwros kai o xronos ths DEQ o katallhlos, prokeimenoy na strafoyn kapoioi enantion ths kybernhshs, adiaforwntas an etsi fqeiroyn to qesmo, an etsi amayrwnoyn thn eikona ths Qessalonikhs; Kai poia einai h qetikh protash aytwn twn sygkentrwsewn; Afoy, den yparxei loipon qetikh protash -giati qa htan periergo na prokycei qetikh protash apo dynameis toso eteroklhtes poy symprattoyn, prokeimenoy na antipoliteyqoyn, ayto epixeiroyn allwste, thn kybernhsh kai monon ayto- ti nohma exoyn aytes oi sygkentrwseis; Bebaiws, kaqe poliths qa diadhlwsei eleyqera tis apoceis toy, alla ki emeis apo th dikh mas pleyra, sto plaisio ayths ths ekdhlwshs, qa exoyme th dynatothta na anaptyjoyme ta epixeirhmata kai tis apoceis mas.

IWANNOY: Dieykrinistika na rwthsw: Qa yparjoyn antisygkentrwseis opws, toylaxiston, akoysame shmera apo kapoia radiofwna;

REPPAS: An kapoies ekdhlwseis mporei na xarakthristoyn apo kapoion "antisygkentrwsh", einai aytoy toy eidoys oi sygkentrwseis, doqentos oti einai gnwsto, kaqierwmeno to programma poy akoloyqeitai kaqe xrono, sto plaisio ths DEQ, me thn paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ypoyrgwn, opws kai oi syzhthseis poy ginontai sto plaisio toy programmatos gia thn Ekqesh. Ara, opoioi, pera apo to programma ayto, analambanoyn prwtoboylies -kaq` ola nomimes, sebasth h epilogh toys, qa akoystei h apoch toys- aytoi einai poy mporei na pei kaneis oti proxwroyn se mia anti-prajh. H qetikh energeia, h qetikh prajh einai ayth poy perilambanetai sto kaqierwmeno programma sto plaisio ths DEQ.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na epanelqoyme. Eipate oti dyo anqrwpoi gnwrizan ayto to eggrafo, to porisma. O enas einai o Proedros ths Boylhs, o allos einai kapoios leitoyrgos ths Dikaiosynhs. Qa anazhthqoyn eyqynes, eite apo ton ekproswpo ths Dikaiosynhs, eite apo ton k. Kaklamanh gia na diereynhqei poios telika ekane ayth th diarroh ston k. Ebert; O ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs protiqetai na ereynhsei sto diko toy tomea h antistoixws

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REPPAS: O ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, o opoios einai o kaq` ylhn armodios, qa probei se sxetikes anakoinwseis, opws kai otan to krinei ekeinos.

MPOTWNHS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti den yparxoyn nea stoixeia apo ayth thn istoria. Alla, wstoso, yparxei enas fakelos kala sfragismenos kai ginetai enas poly megalos qorybos kai olh h Ellada ayth th stigmh jerei to periexomeno toy. Fantasteite ti qa ginei ean anoijei aytos o fakelos. Skefteste@

REPPAS: Eipa kati kai hmoyn safhs.

MPOTWNHS: Ma einai prwto qema se ola ta MME shmera.

REPPAS: To periexomeno toy fakeloy den to gnwrizei kaneis, doqentos oti kaneis den exei sth diaqesh toy ayto to yliko. Etsi fainetai. Twra, an ta stoixeia toy fakeloy einai ta stoixeia poy perilambanontai sto deltio Typoy poy kykloforhse o k. Ebert h einai stoixeia poy syzhthqhkan kat` epanalhch sto parelqon, fantazomai oti tipote kainoyrgio den prokyptei. Ara, exoyn doqei oles oi apanthseis. Kata ta alla perimenoyme na anakoinwqei ayto to yliko, na doqei sth dhmosiothta, prokeimenoy na doqoyn epi ths oysias pleon apanthseis gia qemata poy prokyptoyn kai einai kainoyrgia.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh, omws, apo shmera mexri thn Olomeleia einai arketos xronos kai opws katalabainete ayto qa einai ena kaqhmerino qema ths epikairothtas, mhpws o Proedros ths Boylhs skeftetai na kalesei to Proedreio ths Boylhs, na syzhthsei, na to dwsei nwritera, na ginei kati allo gia na kleisei telika ayto to qema kai na mh synthreitai;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti to qema ayto exei teqei. Prepei na sas pw oti apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs den yparxei kamia antirrhsh na doqei sth dhmosiothta ayto yliko. Alla, bebaiws, ayto enapokeitai ston proedro ths Boylhs toy opoioy prepei na sebastoyme thn opoia apofash. Giati, gnwrizete poly kala, oti o Proedros ths Boylhs qa prepei na thrhsei mia orismenh diadikasia. Kata ta alla exoyn dhmioyrghqei synqhkes, oi opoies pisteyw oti qa prepei na antimetwpistoyn apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs. Einai o monos armodios.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prohgoymenws milhsate gia politikh meqodeysh apo thn pleyra ths N.D., h opoia exei kiolas sxediastei. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean profanws ennoeite oti h N.D. qa synexisei na antipoliteyetai thn kybernhsh kai me alles kinhseis tetoioy eidoys, poia qa einai h antidrash ths kybernhshs sto politiko pedio;

REPPAS: H Nea Dhmokratia einai bebaion oti qa synexisei na antipoliteyetai me diaforoys tropoys thn kybernhsh gia para polla xronia, giati qa parameinei komma ths antipoliteyshs. H apanthsh ths kybernhshs qa einai mia kai qa einai apofasistikh. Qa epidiwkoyme na kerdizoyme thn chfo twn politwn stis ekloges, wste na kybernoyme kai na mas antipoliteyetai h N.D..

MPEQANH: Eipate oti oi dikastikoi leitoyrgoi epilegoyn to xrono ston opoio qa dhmosiopoihsoyn, qa pane ston Proedro ths Boylhs to eggrafo gia kapoia ereyna poy kanei. Gia poio logo pisteyete oti o k. Asprogerakas apesteile ayth th xronikh periodo to eggrafo ayto, kaqws h Olomeleia -apo oti gnwrizoyme kai apo oti gnwrizei o idios- sthn opoia qa anakoinwqei to eggrafo ayto apexei arketa xronika apo th shmerinh hmera;

REPPAS: Einai bebaion oti o k. Asprogerakas gnwrize, opws kaqe eisaggelikos leitoyrgos, oti kata ton kanonismo ths Boylhs to yliko ayto anakoinwnetai sthn Olomeleia toy Swmatos. Apo thn allh pleyra o k. Asprogerakas -kai einai sebasto ayto- qewrhse oti oloklhrwse thn ereyna toy kai eprepe na aposteilei to sxetiko yliko ston Proedro ths Boylhs. Kai ayto einai sebasto. Ta symperasmata einai dika sas.

SOYRMELIDHS: To teleytaio diasthma yparxoyn polla dhmosieymata sto germaniko Typo, se sxesh me to qema twn apozhmiwsewn. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean yparxei opoiadhpote ejelijh se ayto to qema kai an telikws isxyei ayto poy eixate pei sto parelqon oti xreiazetai h ypografh toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs gia opoiadhpote katasxesh ths perioysias toy Institoytoy Gkaite h alloy germanikoy Idrymatos.

REPPAS: Den qa probw se opoiondhpote sxoliasmo gia mia ypoqesh poy brisketai sta ellhnika Dikasthria. Gnwrizete oti ayth h -kata kapoion tropo- diamaxh einai se mia poly lepth fash. Den epitrepetai, loipon -gia na mh qewrhqei ayto estw emmesh parembash sto ergo ths Dikaiosynhs- na kanw kapoio sxolio. H qesh poy exoyme diatypwsei, sto parelqon, asfalws isxyei. Kai pisteyoyme oti oson afora thn katasxesh perioysiakwn stoixeiwn poy aforoyn ena allodapo Dhmosio, qa prepei na eimaste prosektikoi gia to pws antimetwpizoyme to qema ayto. Alla, bebaiws, sthn Ellada oi apofaseis twn Dikasthriwn ginontai pantote sebastes kai ekteloyntai.

MIXAHL: Enqarrynei h kybernhsh sygkentrwseis san aytes poy anamenontai kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, thn epomenh ebdomada otan qa pane kai oi alloi politikoi arxhgoi, sth Qessalonikh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h politikh katastash ths xwras mas einai tetoia, wste na dikaiologei se oloys, idiws sthn kybernhsh mia ikanopoihsh pws exoyme politikh staqerothta, omalothta, leitoyrgoyn oi qesmoi, oi polites askoyn ta dikaiwmata toys. Sto plaisio ayto antimetwpizoyme tis opoies prwtoboylies apo thn pleyra politwn h koinwnikwn forewn gia th diadhlwsh twn apocewn toys me opoio nomimo kai syntagmatiko tropo epilegoyn. Den exw na kanw kanena allo sxolio. Ola ayta, telikws, qa ta krinei o ellhnikos laos. Einai aytos o katallhlos apodekths aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn mas kai telikws o "jenodoxos" ston opoio plhrwnoyme oloi logariasmo. Emeis, den exoyme kanena parapono apo ton ellhniko lao. Kanena parapono den exoyme apo tis epiloges toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti h N.D., me ayta poy kanei, exei stoxo na yponomeysei thn poreia ths oikonomias. Dhladh, h oikonomia paei kala otan h GSEE leei oti to 66% twn Ellhnwn zei katw apo ta oria ths ftwxeias; Ayth einai eyhmeria, dhladh, oikonomia;

REPPAS: H oikonomia paei kala. Ayto prokyptei apo ta stoixeia, poy einai stoixeia ta opoia xrhsimopoioyn oloi oi Dieqneis Organismoi kai h E.E.. Einai koina anagnwrismeno apo foreis megalhs ajiopistias poy meletoyn tis oikonomikes ejelijeis se kaqe xwra, oti h ellhnikh oikonomia brisketai se mia fash dynamikhs anaptyjhs. Exoyme ryqmoys anaptyjhs diplasioys se pososto apo toys antistoixoys toy mesoy oroy twn xwrwn ths Eyrwzwnhs. Exoyme oikonomika megeqh poy einai prwtofanh gia th xwra mas, edw kai polles dekaeties. Ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyme, emeis prwtoi ta exoyme epishmanei. Metajy twn allwn, to problhma ths anergias, h mastiga ths anergias mas apasxolei idiaiterws. Einai gnwsta ta stoixeia gia to pws ejelissetai ayto to megeqos. Pisteyoyme oti exoyme mia meiwsh. Emeis den eimaste ikanopoihmenoi, giati pragmati h anergia kineitai se ychla pososta sth xwra mas. Kata ta alla, prepei na sas pw oti sthn Ellada exoyme to ychlotero pososto idiokatoikhshs kai idiokatanalwshs, sto synolo twn xwrwn ths E.E. Ta stoixeia ayta den einai stoixeia poy metroyntai, poy synektimoyntai, sto plaisio twn stoixeiwn poy epishmws lambanontai ypoch gia thn ejagwgh tetoiwn symperasmatwn. Ara, h poiothta kai to epipedo zwhs sthn Ellada einai, mporei na pei kaneis milwntas me ypeyqyna tropo, ychlotera apo ayta poy martyroyn ta epishma stoixeia. Bebaiws, prepei na beltiwsoyme thn epidosh mas. Hdh, exoyme kanei shmantika bhmata. Gnwrizete poy htan o plhqwrismos, poy htan ta elleimmata, to Dhmosio xreos prin apo kapoia xronia, gnwrizete poy briskomaste shmera. Qa synexisoyme ayth thn poreia proodoy, giati ayto einai pros to symferon ths xwras kai olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opoios exei ena dyaraki, dhladh, einai ploysios;

REPPAS: Eipe kaneis tetoio pragma;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Etsi lete. Oti sthn Ellada exoyn oloi idiokatoikhsh kai ayta. Ayto den lete;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizete oti sthn Ellada exoyme to ychlotero pososto ston tomea ths idiokatoikhshs -poy jeperna to 70%- apo oles tis xwres ths E.E.; Gnwsto einai. Mporoyme na bgaloyme kapoia symperasmata. Anagnwrizw ta problhmata poy yparxoyn ki emeis ta epishmainoyme prwtoi. Giati emeis eimaste edw gia na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ta problhmata. Oxi na prosetairistoyme ta problhmata, opws kanei h antipoliteysh, gia na dhmioyrgoyme entypwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws mperdeyete tis biles twn ypoyrgwn me tis pisines;

REPPAS: Antilambaneste pws ayto den mporei na einai antikeimeno politikhs enhmerwshs. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi polites poy ergazontai, anejarthtws toy epaggelmatos kai toy leitoyrghmatos toys, eite einai politikoi, eite einai ekdotes, eite einai dhmosiografoi, eite einai alloi leitoyrgoi ths dhmosias zwhs, exoyn mia drasthriothta poy mporei na exei thn antanaklash ths kai sto epipedo zwhs poy exoyn ejasfalisei.

IWANNOY: Mhpws mporeite na mas enhmerwsete, ean gnwrizete, se poia proswpa ginetai anafora se ayto to eggrafo; Einai genikh h anafora h sygkekrimena sta proswpa twn kyriwn Papantwnioy kai Xristodoylakh h se kapoia alla;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw to periexomeno aytoy toy eggrafoy, ara den mporw na apanthsw.

MIXAHL: Shmera diabasa ena dhmosieyma poy sas afora proswpika, ws Ypoyrgo Typoy. Kai gia sas ekkremei mia diadikasia eisaggelikhs ereynas kai anamenetai to porisma. Epeidh proswpika eiste endiaferomenos, mhpws exete plhroforhqei h telos pantwn jerete ti sas epifylassei to porisma;

REPPAS: Exw sxetikh plhroforhsh gia ena qema poy me afora apo dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "TO BHMA". Fainetai oti merikoi dhmosiografoi exoyn kalyteres prosbaseis stoys leitoyrgoys ths anejarthths Dikaiosynhs. Emeis den exoyme ayth th dynatothta, akribws giati sebomaste to qesmo ths Dikaiosynhs kai thn anejarthsia ths. Den exw kamia allh plhroforhsh. Ayto to opoio gnwrizw -kai to gnwrizw kala- einai oti enoxlw polloys kai poly. Toys enoxlw idiaiterws dioti yperaspizomai kaqhmerina kai se 24wrh bash thn Kybernhsh kai thn paratajh mas. Den mporw na milhsw gi' ayto to opoio mporei na symbei. Mporw na milhsw, omws, gi' ayto to opoio perase. Na anaferqw se mia analogh ypoqesh h opoia apasxolhse th Boylh sto parelqon. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti apodeixqhke peritrana tote me tis apostomwtikes apanthseis poy dwsame, oti yparxoyn dikastikoi leitoyrgoi poy emfanisqhkan na exoyn pantelh agnoia diatajewn, na askoyn ta kaqhkonta toys me epipolaio tropo kai telikws h idia h Boylh htan ayth poy toys edwse thn apanthsh poy eprepe. Pisteyw oti oloi prepei na askoyme ta kaqhkonta mas me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon. Emeis, allwste, se ayto to ypoyrgeio exoyme pei pws h politikh mas diapneetai apo to triptyxo "nomimothta - diafaneia - poiothta". To exoyme diakhryjei edw kai xronia kai kinoymeqa se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Eimaste anoixtoi na syzhthsoyme opoiodhpote qema. Den gnwrizw otidhpote allo sxetiko. Eimaste etoimoi, opws dwsame apostomwtikes apanthseis sto parelqon, na kanoyme to idio, an xreiastei, kai sto mellon.

SOYRMELIDHS: Telikws, qa diataxqei ereyna, qa ginei opoiadhpote anakrish gia ton k. Asprogeraka gia th diarroh twn plhroforiwn;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se sxetikh erwthsh synadelfoy sas. Einai qema to opoio xeirizetai o armodios Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, o opoios qa probei se sxetikes anakoinwseis, otan ekeinos to krinei kai opws krinei oti prepei na milhsei.

Eyxaristw poly.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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