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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Ioynioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, esteile mhnyma staqerothtas -an qymamai kala- me th dhlwsh toy kai sthn eswterikh kai thn ejwterikh politikh. Epeidh, omws, yparxei diaxyth h aisqhsh oti kati den paei kala sth xwra, qelete na to sxoliasete; Mhpws, h kybernhsh qa eprepe na ejetasei thn politikh ths, giati shmera bghke kai ena gkalop.

REPPAS: H politikh ths kybernhshs apofasizetai sta kybernhtika organa. Efarmozoyme thn politikh poy exoyme ejaggeilei ston ellhniko lao. Basei ayths ths politikhs o ellhnikos laos mas edwse thn chfo toy. Exoyme ypoxrewsh na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas. Gia na epityxoyme ta epiqymhta apotelesmata qa prepei na exoyme diasfalisei synqhkes politikhs, oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs staqerothtas. H kybernhsh einai ayth poy me thn politikh ths ta teleytaia xronia exei dhmioyrghsei tis proypoqeseis gia thn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths xwras, th beltiwsh ths zwhs twn politwn. Me thn politikh ths h kybernhsh exei dhmioyrghsei ena neo dieqnes periballon, opoy h Ellada pleon einai h xwra - prwtagwnisths. Diasfalizoyme ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas, to eqniko symferon mas. Ara, loipon, ola ayta ta opoia mporei na pei kaneis apoteloyn ton akrogwniaio liqo gia thn proodo mias xwras, sthn patrida mas -enw qa prepei panta na synexizoyme na prospaqoyme gia th beltiwsh ths katastashs- prepei na qewroyntai kekthmena. H katastash einai kalh. Kata ta alla, h anafora stis metrhseis, tis opoies den mporw na sxoliasw, afoy den gnwrizw to periexomeno toys, einai kati to opoio qa elqei kai qa epanelqei, giati polles dhmoskophseis ginontai sto plaisio mias koinoboyleytikhs periodoy. Oi dhmoskophseis erxontai kai parerxontai. Ayto to opoio menei einai to apotelesma ths politikhs. Ki emeis epiqymoyme, kaqws synexizetai h qhteia ayths ths kybernhshs kai mexri thn oloklhrwsh ths, na exoyme epityxei ta epiqymhta apotelesmata, me thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn mas, wste thn krisimh stigmh poy qa klhqoyme kai pali sthn kalph gia na epilejei o ellhnikos laos thn kybernhsh ths epomenhs tetraetias, na exoyme na paroysiasoyme ajiologa apotelesmata, opws allwste egine kai kata thn prohgoymenh qhteia mas. Gi ayton akribws to logo o ellhnikos laos chfise kai pali ton Kwsta Shmith Prwqypoyrgo kai thn paratajh mas gia na kybernhsoyn th xwra. Ayto epidiwkoyme kai ayto qa kanoyme kai twra.

Asfalws, yparxoyn problhmata sthn poreia mas. Exoyn gnwsh oi fylakes. Prepei na labete ypoch sas oti ayto to opoio apotelei proypoqesh gia na antimetwpiseis kai na lyseis ta problhmata einai: Na exeis sxedio, dhladh oloklhrwmeno programma kai diarqrwmenes proteraiothtes, basei twn opoiwn efarmozeis ayto to programma. Emeis exoyme sxedio, exoyme programma gia th xwra kai to mellon ths kai bebaiws exoyme stelexh, exoyme dhladh oles tis proypoqeseis, prokeimenoy etsi na antapokriqoyme sthn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai na kybernhsoyme gia to symferon ths xwras kai toy ellhnikoy laoy.

MIXAHL: Kai sto parelqon, otan janaginan metrhseis, pali mas eipate ligo-poly ta idia. To gegonos oti pia kai me nees metrhseis, tis opoies qa doyme akribws ti lene se liges wres, exoyme jana na synthreitai ena fainomeno poy h kybernhsh ypoleipetai sthn koinh gnwmh enanti twn problhmatwn, enanti ths antipoliteyshs, den sas problhmatizei;

REPPAS: To oti leme pantote ta idia apodeiknyei oti eimaste synepeis se orismenes qeseis arxhs. Oi dhmoskophseis einai episthmonika ergaleia ta opoia qa prepei na ajiopoihsoyme gia na bgaloyme xrhsima politika symperasmata. Den mas egklwbizoyn oi dhmoskophseis, giati apotypwnoyn tis diaqeseis ths koinhs gnwmhs mia orismenh xronikh stigmh. Emas mas endiaferei to mellon ths xwras. Antimetwpizoyme tis ypoqeseis toys eqnoys kai twn politwn sthn prooptikh toys. Epanalambanw oti exoyme sxedio, exoyme boylhsh, exoyme stelexh gia na efarmosoyme to sxedio ayto, prokeimenoy etsi na enisxysoyme th qesh ths xwras kai na beltiwsoyme th zwh twn politwn. Asfalws, ajiologoyme ta apotelesmata olwn twn metrhsewn kai ta lambanoyme ypoch mas. Omws, den einai oi dhmoskophseis aytes poy anadeiknyoyn kybernhseis. Ayto to gnwrizoyme oloi poly kala, giati exoyme anadeixqei sto parelqon kybernhsh me thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy, otan prin apo tis ekloges -kai se polles periptwseis- diafores dhmoskophseis diamhnyan teleiws diaforetikh ejelijh. Kai opws gnwrizete o ellhnikos laos apofasise me thn chfo toy teleiws diaforetika.

MIXAHL: Gia thn polypoqhth allagh toy klimatos, poy leme, apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, etsi wste na exei jana thn prwtoboylia twn kinhsewn kai se epipedo entypwsewn, an qelete, o k. Shmiths feretai, symfwna me shmerina dhmosieymata na eipe, xqes, se esas, stoys stenoys synergates toy, oti den afora mono ton idio kai oses prospaqeies sxediazontai, afora kai ypoyrgoys, afora kai alla stelexh. Qa hqela na rwthsw: Me poio tropo ola ayta qa syntonistoyn; Mhpws o anasxhmatismos einai mia lysh, thn opoia pros to paron o k. Shmiths aporriptei;

REPPAS: Gia qemata anasxhmatismoy exoyme dwsei, kat` epanalhch, apanthseis. Parakalw, mhn epanerxeste se ayto to erwthma, afoy gnwrizete poia einai h apanthsh poy qa labete. Nomizw oti mataioponeite, otan anafereste se ena qema poy den yparxei, otan den yparxei antikeimeno, otan den yparxei periexomeno sthn erwthsh. Apo kei kai pera, gnwrizete oti h kybernhsh leitoyrgei me dhmokratiko kai syllogiko tropo. Eynohto einai oti kaqenas poy exei sygkekrimena kaqhkonta epitygxanei h oxi apotelesmata kai oti h poreia toy krinetai epityxhs, analogws aytwn twn apotelesmatwn. Nomizw, loipon, oti oloi, kaqenas sto metro poy toy analogei, ws stelexh ths kybernhshs, ws stelexh toy kratoys se diaforoys tomeis, prepei na jeperasoyme ton eayto mas kai na antapokriqoyme sth laikh entolh. Oloi exoyme eyqynh na antapokriqoyme se ayth thn entolh, oloi anejairetws.

KWSTANTHS: Opws katagrafetai, toylaxiston, se ayth th dhmoskophsh, to epixeirhma sas kai sto parelqon, alla kai shmera einai oti symfwna me tis dhmoskophseis to PASOK panta ypoleipotan ths N.D., alla stis ekloges...

REPPAS: Pote den eipa ``panta''. Eipa se "diafores dhmoskophseis".

KWSTANTHS: Alla, oi teleytaies dhmoskophseis exoyn ena allo xarakthristiko. Gia prwth fora sthn erwthsh gia thn parastash nikhs kai thn erwthsh poios einai katallhloteros Prwqypoyrgos, h N.D. kai o k. Karamanlhs einai mprosta. Ayto den sas problhmatizei;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola qelete na syzhthsoyme gia to periexomeno mias dhmoskophshs, thn opoia den gnwrizoyme. Ayto nomizw oti den einai deontologiko. Deyteron, gnwrizete oti to leptomeres periexomeno mias dhmoskophshs oydepote to sxoliasame, akomh kai otan orismenes metrhseis htan toso qetikes gia mas, wste na dikaiologoysan, apo th dikh mas pleyra, ena sxolio ikanopoihshs. Den to kaname. Emeis exoyme maqei na ergazomaste, giati gnwrizoyme poio einai to xreos mas apenanti sthn patrida kai ston ellhniko lao kai oti qa erqei h wra na kriqoyme me bash to ergo mas. Ergazomaste, loipon, gia na exoyme ekeina ta qetika apotelesmata, poy qa peisoyn toys polites oti prepei kai pali na mas empisteyqoyn gia mia nea qhteia meta to 2004.

GIANNISHS: To Sabbato einai to mnhmosyno toy Andrea Papandreoy kai thn perasmenh Kyriakh eginan sth Rodo ta apokalypthria enos andrianta toy idryth toy PASOK. Yparxei kapoia proqesh na ginoyn kai alles analoges ekdhlwseis h apokalypthria protomwn toy Andrea Papandreoy; Epishs, diatypwqhkan kai kapoies enstaseis mesa apo to PASOK, sxetika me thn aisqhtikh toy andrianta toy Andrea Papandreoy. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: O Andreas Papandreoy exei mia jexwristh qesh sthn politikh istoria toy topoy mas. Toy ofeiloyme polla ws xwra, ws laos. Ton timoyme idiaiterws osoi anhkoyme se ayth thn paratajh. Sebomaste th mnhmh toy kai qa deixnoyme ayto to sebasmo me diaforoys tropoys kai se kaqe eykairia. Ekdhlwseis mnhmhs kai timhs, me aformh th symplhrwsh pente etwn apo to qanato toy, ginontai se olh thn Ellada. Bebaiws, oi organwseis toy PASOK, oloi oi anqrwpoi poy timoyn th mnhmh toy idryth toy Kinhmatos mas, mporei na paroyn analoges prwtoboylies. Oson afora qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to kallitexniko meros -mias kai anaferqhkate sthn aisqhtikh- qa moy epitrecete na mhn ta sxoliasw, giati den eimai eidikos kai den mporei h kybernhsh na periorisei se stereotypa plaisia tis apoceis poy mporei na yparxoyn, oson afora ton tropo me ton opoio ekfrazontai oi kallitexnes.

MOYRTZHS: Xqes, eixame mia parembash-diamartyria toy Mikh Qeodwrakh me aformh mia synaylia gia thn Politistikh Olympiada toy Baggelh Papaqanasioy, gia to kostos ths synaylias poy diamorfwnetai peripoy se 1,5 disekatommyria draxmes. Eixame kai mia parembash toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Eyaggeloy Benizeloy, o opoios oyte ligo, oyte poly esteile to mhnyma sto Mikh na mhn anhsyxei, giati qa exei kai th dikh toy qesh sthn Politistikh Olympiada. Erwtw: Den einai ligaki akomco na kathgoroyme to Mikh Qeodwrakh oti ekane ayth thn parembash-diamartyria gia logoys idioteleias;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, oydeis kathgorhse to Mikh Qeodwrakh, oyte ayta poy eipe o ypoyrgos Politismoy prepei na ermhneytoyn etsi opws ta ermhneyete eseis. O Mikhs Qeodwrakhs den exei anagkh thn yposthrijh oydenos. Einai enas zwntanos myqos, einai ena kommati toy ellhnikoy politismoy. Mono logos agaphs kai sebasmoy armozei sto Mikh Qeodwrakh, apo oloys mas. Kamia kritikh, oyte kan emmesh. O ypoyrgos Politismoy ekane dhlwseis gia to qema ayto. Sto plaisio twn ekdhlwsewn ths legomenhs epikrateias toy politismoy, organwnontai kai ekdhlwseis, me tis opoies den asxoleitai h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy, alla diafores yphresies. Den qa mpoyme sta diadikastika h organwtika zhthmata aytwn twn ekdhlwsewn. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai oti polla ajiologa mnhmeia ths xwras proballontai, ajiopoioyntai, anadeiknyontai, otan sto plaisio aytwn twn ekdhlwsewn denontai me tis ekdhlwseis aytes. Arkei, bebaiws, ayto na ginetai me metro, wste ta mnhmeia ths xwras na mhn metatrapoyn se ena aplo skhniko aytwn twn ekdhlwsewn. Qa prepei, omws, na denontai me tis politistikes ekdhlwseis, giati ginontai etsi pio prosita, ajiopoioyntai kai anadeiknyontai.

MOYRTZHS: Gia to kostos;

REPPAS: Ola ayta ta organwtika h diadikastika zhthmata den aforoyn emas. Antimetwpizontai apo aytoys toys foreis poy exoyn analabei na organwsoyn tis ekdhlwseis.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas, dedomenoy oti h anhsyxia poy yparxei sthn E.E., etsi opws thn eidame kai emeis mesa apo tis diadhlwseis sto Gketemporgk, egine antikeimeno syzhthshs anamesa ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai ton Prwqypoyrgo. Epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw, giati h kybernhsh den dhmosiopoihse to keimeno twn "15" me tis systaseis pros thn Ellada, etsi opws paroysiasthke shmera ston Typo, dedomenoy oti o ellhnikos laos qa eprepe na enhmerwqei gi` ayta ta qemata kai sto parelqon eixe enhmerwqei me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs gia paromoia qemata.

REPPAS: Oson afora to periexomeno ths syzhthshs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias me ton Prwqypoyrgo, sas parapempw stis leptomereis dhlwseis poy exei kanei o Prwqypoyrgos. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se ola ta qemata poy syzhthse me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Den xreiazetai na prosqesw tipota.

Oson afora tis diadhlwseis diamartyrias poy elaban xwra sth Soyhdia, sto plaisio ths teleytaias Synodoy Koryfhs ths E.E., epanalambanw th qesh mas: Kaqenas mporei, bebaiws, me dhmokratiko tropo, na diatypwnei tis apoceis toy. Oles oi apoceis einai sebastes. Oles prepei na lhfqoyn ypoch. Ayto, omws, to opoio den mporei na ginei paradekto einai h xrhsimopoihsh biaiwn meswn gia thn probolh aytwn twn apocewn. H dhmioyrgia, dhladh, mias neas katastashs, opoy h bia, h entash kai h antiparaqesh me kaqe tropo qa parei pleon th qesh toy dialogoy kai ths programmatikhs antiparaqeshs. Ayto einai kati to opoio den dexomaste.

Oson afora to allo qema sto opoio anaferqhkate, prepei na sas pw oti h anafora ayth den apeyqynetai mono pros th xwra mas. Einai anafora poy apeyqynetai sto synolo twn xwrwn ths E.E. Idiaiterws, h anafora poy ginetai gia thn oikonomia ths Elladas, einai poly epainetikh. Einai poly qermoi oi logoi me toys opoioys h E.E. anaferetai sta epiteygmata ths ellhnikhs oikonomias.

Oson afora to istoriko toy qematos, prepei na sas pw oti to EKOFIN, to Symboylio Oikonomikwn Ypoyrgwn, eixe katalhjei se ena keimeno to opoio afora thn oikonomikh katastash se oles tis xwres. To keimeno ayto teqhke ypoch toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy sthn teleytaia Synodo Koryfhs, sto plaisio toy qematos poy syzhthqhke me ton titlo "Genikoi prosanatolismoi oikonomikhs politikhs". To keimeno ayto, afoy to elabe ypoch toy to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, to yioqethse kai amesws meta synhlqe kai pali to EKOFIN, prokeimenoy na ekdwsei ayth thn telikh qesh gia to kefalaio twn genikwn prosanatolismwn oikonomikh politikhs stis xwres ths E.E. H anafora sth xwra mas, den einai tipote allo, para h epanalhch olwn oswn, sto plaisio toy dikoy mas sxedioy, ths dikhs mas protashs, eixe h Ellada symperilabei sto programma poy kateqese apo ton prohgoymeno Noembrh. Den yparxei tipota kainoyrgio se ayto. Polla stoixeia exoyn dhmosieyqei edw kai peripoy ena mhna h kai perissotero.

Ara, loipon, anakefalaiwnw: H diadikasia poy akoloyqhqhke den einai kati poy proekyce aifnidiws twra. Einai ena gnwsto qema. Einai peripoy gnwsto to periexomeno, edw kai arketo kairo. Den einai tipote allo, para h epanalhch toy programmatos staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs poy eixe kataqesei h ellhnikh kybernhsh apo to Noembrio toy 2000 kai to opoio h E.E. kalei thn Ellada na thrhsei kai na efarmosei kai symfwnoyme apolytws se ayto. H anafora ginetai gia tis oikonomies olwn twn xwrwn kai oxi mono gia thn oikonomia ths xwras mas. Kai bebaiws, prepei na sas pw oti perisseyei o epainos kai o qetikos logos gia ta epiteygmata ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, sto plaisio aytoy toy keimenoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo th mia pleyra lete oti "h anafora poy ginetai gia thn oikonomia ths Elladas einai poly qetikh kai poly kalh" kai apo thn allh, lete oti " h E.E. kalei thn Ellada na efarmosei". Ayta ta dyo den symfwnoyn.

REPPAS: Symfwnoyn apolytws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa pei oti h E.E. exei apodeijeis se kati gia na kalei thn Ellada na ta efarmosei.

REPPAS: To programma staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs poy kateqese h xwras mas ton perasmeno Noembrh, proeblepe, metajy twn allwn, thn ejelijh orismenwn oikonomikwn megeqwn. H E.E. bebaiwnei, diapistwnei oti pragmati h Ellada antapokrinetai se ayth thn problech poy eixame perilabei sto programma poy kataqesame tote, gia thn ejelijh twn pragmatwn, oson afora thn oikonomia ths xwras mas. Exoyme ryqmo anaptyjhs poly panw apo to meso oro twn xwrwn ths Koinothtas. Exoyme plhqwrismo poy kineitai sto epipedo twn allwn xwrwn. Ola ta oikonomika megeqh deixnoyn oti h ellhnikh oikonomia exei ygieis baseis kai qetikh prooptikh. Mas kalei, loipon, to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio kai to EKOFIN na thrhsoyme ayto to programma. Ma, emeis kataqesame ayto to programma kai eimaste oi prwtoi poy endiaferomaste gia thn thrhsh kai thn efarmogh toy kai mexri twra to exoyme kataferei. Einai, loipon, se armonia to ena me to allo kai den erxontai se kamia antiqesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy to throyme ayto to programma, giati mas kaloyn na to thrhsoyme; Kati den paei kala.

REPPAS: An deite ta oikonomika megeqh, qa diapistwsete oti h ellhnikh oikonomia ston tomea ayto exei poly kalyteres epidoseis kai mporei na sygkriqei me polles alles xwres ths E.E.. Kai ej aytoy toy logoy krinetai poly ikanopoihtikh h poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Ara, loipon, den yparxei periqwrio gia ayth th memcimoirh kritikh sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gia to qema ths dieyrynshs poy endiaferei amesa thn Kypro, sto Gketemporgk, den eipwqhkan polla pragmata. Sthn arxh o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia to 2002, meta gia to 2004. Bebaia, h kypriakh kybernhsh feretai ikanopoihmenh apo ta apotelesmata. Qa hqela na kanete mia anakoinwsh sxetika me to qema.

REPPAS: Exw pei, kat` epanalhch -me exete akoysei edw, na syzhtoyme to sxetiko qema- pws h poreia ths Kyproy sthn E.E. den mporei na anakopei. Oydeis mporei na anakocei ayth thn poreia. Mporw na pw oti mia allh lejh, me peripoy to idio nohma, yioqetei sta keimena ths h E.E., poy leei oti h poreia dieyrynshs ths E.E. den einai antistrecimh, den einai anatrecimh -an qelete- prosqetw egw. Ara, oydeis mporei na anakocei ayth thn poreia. H Kypros exei proxwrhsei perissotero apo oles tis alles ypochfies pros entajh xwres ston tomea twn diapragmateysewn kai pisteyoyme oti qa einai h prwth xwra poy thn katallhlh stigmh, mazi me tis alles xwres poy qa exoyn oloklhrwsei me epityxia tis sxetikes diapragmateyseis, qa entaxqei sthn E.E.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Poia einai h katallhlh wra;

REPPAS: Thn wra poy qa exoyn oloklhrwqei oi diapragmateyseis kai h E.E. qa einai etoimh na proxwrhsei stis prajeis prosxwrhshs gia oles tis xwres poy exoyn me epityxia perasei ayto to pedio, th fash twn diapragmateysewn. Kai h Kypros prwtoporei ston tomea ayto. Den prepei na mas diafeygei. Kai to leme ayto se oloys toys tonoys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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