Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-03-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Ena apo ta megalytera erga ths Eyrwphs, to dieqnes aerodromio "Eleyqerios Benizelos" sta Spata, apotelei pleon pragmatikothta. O gewpolitikos kai gew-oikonomikos xarths ths Elladas allazei. To ergo ayto einai ejairetikhs shmasias. H shmerinh hmera sfragizei thn poreia ths xwras pros thn anaptyjh kai thn proodo. Pisteyoyme oti oloi osoi synebalan, oloi osoi antilambanontai poso kaqoristikhs shmasias einai h leitoyrgia toy neoy aerodromioy dikaioyntai na symmetasxoyn se ayth th xara ths dhmioyrgias, se ayth th xara ths prooptikhs. H Ellada to 2001 exei pleon ena apo ta pio sygxrona aerodromia toy kosmoy sth diaqesh twn politwn ths kai twn jenwn poy thn episkeptontai.

Qelw akomh na anaferqw se ena qema to opoio empiptei kai ston tomea twn dikwn moy armodiothtwn. Afora th leitoyrgia twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn. Einai poly synhqismeno to fainomeno kapoioi na apofeygoyn na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys. Kapoioi, epeidh den blepoyn thn pragmatikothta, epeidh kanoyn oti den blepoyn thn pragmatikothta, epeidh se teleytaia analysh den toys endiaferei to dhmosio symferon prospaqoyn me khrygmata kata ths nomimothtas kai me thn ceydologia, ws ergaleia toys, na antistaqoyn sthn prospaqeia ths Politeias na aposafhnisei to radiothleoptiko topio. Htan se oloys gnwsto kai idiaiterws stoys endiaferomenoys oti oi radiofwnikoi staqmoi poy leitoyrgoysan gia mia orismenh periodo sto nomo Attikhs den qa mporoysan sto synolo toys na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn meta th xorhghsh twn adeiwn stoys staqmoys ekeinoys, poy sto plaisio ths diagwnistikhs diadikasias qa epilegoyn apo to ESR. Kai pantws, den qa htan dynato na leitoyrghsei to synolo twn staqmwn radiofwnoy sto nomo Attikhs me thn enarjh leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy, logw twn gnwstwn problhmatwn kai twn kindynwn poy einai dynato na proklhqoyn apo epizhmies paremboles sta radiobohqhmata ths YPA. Htan gnwsto ayto. Kai den prokeitai na epitrecoyme drasthriothtes poy dhmioyrgoyn kindynoys gia thn asfaleia twn pthsewn sto neo aerodromio. To posoi radiofwnikoi staqmoi leitoyrgoyn se kaqe perioxh kai sto nomo Attikhs den einai proion politikhs epiloghs. Einai apotelesma episthmonikhs meleths. Oi armodies texnikes yphresies toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn exoyn me kathgorhmatiko tropo kai kat` epanalhch apanthsei se opoia erwthmata exoyn teqei gia to qema ayto. O ariqmos twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn poy mporei na leitoyrgoyn sto nomo Attikhs einai 28, xwris na dhmioyrgeitai opoiodhpote problhma sth leitoyrgia toy neoy aerodromioy. To posoi, loipon, staqmoi leitoyrgoyn einai qema poy prokyptei, poy antimetwpizetai apo tis meletes twn texnikwn yphresiwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn. To poioi qa einai aytoi oi staqmoi, oi opoioi symperilambanontai se ayto to synoliko ariqmo apofasisthke, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, kai panta oi apofaseis toy prepei na ginontai sebastes, apo to ESR kai malista omofwnws. Emeis ws kybernhsh, ws Politeia qa prepei na synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas, titania prospaqeia, me polla empodia kai isxyres antidraseis. Qigontai symferonta kai anoma symferonta. Symferonta ta opoia antilambanontai thn proseggish twn qematwn apo mia eidikh optikh gwnia kai oxi apo thn optikh gwnia yperaspishs kai diasfalishs toy symferontos toy koinwnikoy synoloy. Omws, ayth h prospaqeia prepei na oloklhrwqei kai qa oloklhrwqei, giati einai pros to symferon twn politwn, einai pros to symferon ths Politeias, einai pros to symferon kai twn idiwn twn MME. Me diadikasies mesa apo ta problepomena organa anadeiknyontai oi staqmoi ekeinoi oi opoioi se mia ygih antagwnistikh bash mporoyn na leitoyrgoyn, prosferontas enhmerwsh kai cyxagwgia. Ayth, loipon, h prospaqeia h opoia twra ftanei se ena krisimo shmeio den mporei na anakopei. Qa prepei na oloklhrwqei kai qa oloklhrwqei.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ARGYROS: Ypogracate thn apofash gia thn adeiodothsh twn 20 staqmwn kai thn proswrinh leitoyrgia twn ypoloipwn oktw;

REPPAS: Exei oloklhrwqei apo to ESR h diadikasia diatypwshs ths symfwnhs gnwmhs pros ton Ypoyrgo gia toys 20 radiofwnikoys staqmoys oi opoioi prepei na laboyn adeia leitoyrgias sto nomo Attikhs. H xorhghsh twn adeiwn qa oloklhrwqei se poly mikro xroniko diasthma me thn antimetwpish twn dioikhtikwn kai texnikwn qematwn, opws problepei o nomos, wste ayto to megalo bhma -h xorhghsh adeias se radiofwnikoys staqmoys sto nomo Attikhs- pros thn kateyqynsh aposafhnishs toy radiothleoptikoy topioy na ginei pragmatikothta. Ta texnika h alla dioikhtikhs fyshs qemata ta opoia paramenoyn akoma ekkremh exoyn sxesh me ton orismo apo kaqe staqmo enos ekproswpoy, enos texnikoy ypeyqynoy toy kai me th diadikasia epiloghs ths syxnothtas, sthn opoia kaqe staqmos qa synexisei na ekpempei to shma toy, me bash th dhlwsh protimhshs gia mia orismenh syxnothta poy exei kanei, opws arxikws problepotan sth sxetikh prokhryjh. Ayta ta qemata qa antimetwpistoyn mesa se diasthma ligwn hmerwn, prokeimenoy na xorhghqoyn oi adeies. Ayto afora 20 staqmoys.

Kata thn periodo ayth -epeidh exoyme proxwrhsei se mia prokhryjh gia th xorhghsh triwn akomh adeiwn, afoy apeyleyqerwqhkan syxnothtes, logw ths metaforas toy aerodromioy- doqhke h dynatothta apo tis texnikes yphresies poy ekanan th sxetikh meleth na ekpempoyn to programma toys mexri na xorhghqoyn kai aytes oi treis nees adeies, synolikws 28 staqmoi. Eikosi einai aytoi oi opoioi kat` arxas exoyn epilegei kai stoys opoioys prokeitai na xorhghqei h sxetikh adeia kai oktw gia na symplhrwqei o synolikos ariqmos twn 28 staqmwn poy qa leitoyrgoyn gia mia metabatikh periodo. O ariqmos 28 den apotelei, epanalambanw, proion kai apotelesma politikhs epiloghs. Oi staqmoi epilexthkan apo to ESR me omofwnh apofash toy. Egw eixa desmeytei -kai ayto einai kati poy mas briskei, pisteyw, oloys symfwnoys- na yioqethsw th qesh toy ESR, poly perissotero poy einai mia omofwnh apofash. Me bash ayth thn apofash toy ESR, sthn opoia anaferontai oi sygkekrimenoi 28 staqmoi, proxwroyme se oles tis aparaithtes energeies me thn ekdosh twn apofasewn, poy qa exei ws synepeia na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn oi sygkekrimenoi 28 staqmoi. Kaloyntai, ws ek toytoy, na diakocoyn th leitoyrgia toys oi alloi radiofwnikoi staqmoi poy shmera leitoyrgoyn kai pantws htan gnwsto se oloys oti h leitoyrgia toys eixe ena proswrino xarakthra.

MIXAHL: Epeidh qesate kapoia zhthmata prepei na mas dwsete kai kapoies apanthseis gia ta khrygmata kai ta ceydologhmata. Ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, ginetai logos gia "kybernhtiko prajikophma, kybernhtikh ayqairesia". Prepei na sas pw oti to ESR, to opoio omofwnws katelhje se ayto ton katalogo twn sygkekrimenwn radiofwnikwn staqmwn, den apotelei kybernhtiko organo. Gnwrizete oti den einai spanio to fainomeno na ekfrazontai diaforetikes apoceis gia sygkekrimena qemata. Omofwnws to ESR katelhje sthn epilogh aytwn twn 28 radiofwnikwn staqmwn. Ayto den anaferetai poyqena h sxedon poyqena, giati ginetai prospaqeia -einai fanero ayto- na askhqei piesh pros thn kybernhsh, les kai einai apotelesma politikhs epiloghs to na leitoyrgoyn 28 radiofwnikoi staqmoi. Makari, na eixame thn texnikh dynatothta na leitoyrgoyn perissoteroi, polloi perissoteroi. Omws, o periorismenos, o sygkekrimenos ariqmos prokyptei apo texnikes meletes, den einai apotelesma politikoy xarakthra epiloghs. Asfalws, otan oi armodies yphresies perifroyroyn aytes tis diatajeis, prokeimenoy na epikrathsei h nomimothta, kapoioi poy profanws den epiqymoyn thn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy enantiwnontai se aytes tis kinhseis twn armodiwn yphresiwn, les kai briskontai se atajia oi armodies yphresies kai oxi aytoi, oi opoioi epitiqentai stis armodies arxes kai kata kapoio tropo epixeiroyn na tis parempodisoyn na askhsoyn ta kaqhkonta toys. Ayth einai h apanthsh.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn anagnwrizete oti exete eyqynes ws kybernhsh, ws Ypoyrgeio Typoy poy epopteyete toy radiothleoptikoy xwroy kai ws Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn ejetazete thn ypodomh gia ton tropo efarmoghs aytwn twn apofasewn; Qa sas pw to poly aplo: Afoy, loipon, lete eseis oti 28 adeies mporoyn na xorhghqoyn, giati den kleisate to qema prin apo ena, dyo, treis, pente eji mhnes, ena xrono kai to afhsate thn paramonh h kai thn hmera leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, diapistwnw antifash sthn erwthsh sas. Apo th mia zhtate na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn oi radiofwnikoi staqmoi kai apo thn allh mas kathgoreite giati den kleisame toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys, edw kai poly kairo.

MIXAHL: Oxi, to kanete twra. Gia ton tropo milw egw.

REPPAS: Qa apanthsw kai se ayto. Aploystato: To pws ejelixqhkan ta pragmata, apokalyptei me ton kalytero tropo oti epiqymoyme na leitoyrgoyn oso ginetai perissoteroi radiofwnikoi staqmoi kai pantws tosoi osoi einai dynato -h epitrepto- na leitoyrgoyn analoga me tis diaqesimes syxnothtes. Enas staqmos den mporei na leitoyrghsei an den diatiqetai sygkekrimenh syxnothta gia na ekpempei to shma toy. Kai emeis epitrecame th xrhsh olwn twn diaqesimwn syxnothtwn. Kai pantws -eixe tonistei ayto eyqys ejarxhs, problepetai kai sto nomo, se oles tis apofaseis kai alles dioikhtikes prajeis mas- epitrecame gia mia orismenh periodo, afenos mexri thn ekdosh twn adeiwn kai afeteroy, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh toy nomoy Attikhs, mexri thn enarjh leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy, pragma to opoio dhmioyrgei nea dedomena, nees synqhkes sthn perioxh. Gi` ayto ginetai olh ayth h syzhthsh, gia th metafora twn keraiwn apo mia orismenh qesh. Ara, loipon, h diagwnistikh diadikasia oloklhrwnetai gia to nomo Attikhs. Tis apofaseis, epi ths oysias, ths ajiologhshs twn staqmwn exei labei to ESR. Oi apofaseis aytes prepei na ginoyn sebastes. Den elegxw thn oysia twn apofasewn toy ESR. H apofash ayth htan omofwnh, elhfqh proxqes kai enw egw apoysiaza -opws gnwrizete- sto ejwteriko, sth Soyhdia mazi me ton Prwqypoyrgo. H apofash ayth, moy koinopoihqhke kai bebaiws h omofwnh ayth apofash toy ESR yioqeteitai kai tiqetai se efarmogh. Den yparxei allos dromos, an qeloyme na proxwrhsoyme sthn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy kai na ekplhrwsoyme thn ypoxrewsh poy exoyme, oson afora tis ejaggelies ths politikhs mas, kata to skelos ths nomimothtas gia thn opoia, kat` epanalhch, exw milhsei.

Exw pei oti to triptyxo ths politikhs mas einai h nomimothta, h diafaneia kai h poiothta. Eimaste sto skelos ths nomimothtas kai pisteyw oti oloi qa symbaloyme, wste ayto poy sta logia toylaxiston h qewrhtikws oloi isxyrizontai oti epiqymoyn kai yposthrizoyn, na ginei kai prajh. Den antilambanomai giati kapoioi antidroyn. Katanow, bebaiws, oti oi idiwtes-epixeirhmaties, poy pisteyoyn oti qigontai ta symferonta toys, den qa einai ikanopoihmenoi apo mia tetoia apofash. Alla einai gnwsto oti den mporei na parameinoyn oloi oi staqmoi se leitoyrgia, giati ayto dhmioyrgei terastioys kindynoys kai antibainei to dhmosio symferon. Kai ayto htan gnwsto, edw kai para poly kairo. Hrqe, loipon, h wra ths alhqeias. Isws kapoioi den pisteyan oti qa efarmosoyme thn politikh mas. Kapoioi mas kathgoroyn giati efarmozoyme thn politikh mas. Ayto ejagw egw ws symperasma. Nomizw, loipon, oti qa prepei oloi, kaqenas apo th dikh toy pleyra, idiws eseis poy ergazeste se MME, giati antilambaneste poso neyralgikos einai aytos o tomeas kai poso shmantikes einai oi opoies prwtoboylies mas poy anaferontai sta MME, na symbalete anadeiknyontas ta qemata me orqo tropo.

MIXAHL: Poia einai ta anoma symferonta poy eipate;

REPPAS: Anoma symferonta einai ekeina poy den sebontai tis apofaseis ths Politeias kai twn organwn ths kai qeloyn na synexisoyn na drasthriopoioyntai ejw apo to nomiko plaisio.

ARGYROS: Yphrje aithma pros ton Prwqypoyrgo na apeleyqerwsei h ERA, apo tis 13 syxnothtes poy katexei, tesseris h pente, wste na dieykolynqoyn kapoioi staqmoi; Kai ena deytero erwthma, ean to reyma qa kopei, oxi mono apo ton Ymhtto, alla kai apo thn Parnhqa, thn Aigina h to Aigalew.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, den yparxei opoiodhpote tetoio qema emplokhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Prepei na sas pw oti h politikh mas ayth einai mia prodiagrammenh poreia. Den einai kati to opoio prepei na prokalei aifnidiasmo. Exoyme milhsei, kat` epanalhch, gi` ayta ta qemata. Apla, fainetai pws kapoioi den pisteyan oti qa eimaste synepeis. Den tiqetai qema diaqeshs syxnothtwn poy shmera diaxeirizetai kai ekpempei ta programmata ths h ERA, h ERT. Pantote -prepei na to gnwrizete ayto- o ariqmos twn epiqymoyntwn na qesoyn se leitoyrgia ena radiofwniko staqmo, ena Meso Enhmerwshs genikotera, qa einai megalyteros apo tis diaqesimes syxnothtes. Den lynetai to problhma me to na ikanopoihqei to "aithma" kapoiwn staqmwn na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn. Qa yparxoyn kai oi alloi staqmoi, poy einai kai oi perissoteroi, gia toys opoioys h leitoyrgia den qa einai texnikws efikth kai ara, den mporei na epitrapei. Kai se teleytaia analysh, exoyme kaqierwsei, me antikeimenikes kai diafaneis diadikasies, ena diagwnistiko plaisio mesw toy opoioy oi epixeirhmatikoi foreis diekdikoyn na laboyn thn adeia. Exoyme orisei to Organo poy pairnei tis apofaseis epi ths oysias, to ESR. Otan ola ayta efarmozontai, kapoioi oi opoioi den symperilambanontai stis apofaseis toy ESR, den einai ikanopoihmenoi. Ayto einai katanohto. Antidroyn, omws, me enan tetoio tropo, o opoios den einai katanohtos. Giati, htan gnwsto oti o ariqmos twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn den mporei para na einai mikroteros, se sxesh me ton ariqmo twn staqmwn poy leitoyrgoyn olh ayth thn periodo, gia texnikoys logoys stoys opoioys anaferqhka.

Oson afora thn antimetwpish twn qematwn poy sxetizontai me th diakoph leitoyrgias twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn, prepei na pw toyto: Oi idioi oi endiaferomenoi qa prepei na symmorfwqoyn me tis apofaseis twn organwn ths Politeias. Oi apofaseis einai nomimes. Den antilambanomai giati qa prepei na metablhqei enas xwros se pedio maxhs gia na epiblhqei h nomimothta sthn ayqairesia thn opoia kapoioi qeloyn na epibaloyn. Ayto einai kainofanes. Asfalws, oi armodies yphresies qa laboyn kaqe endeiknyomeno metro. Prin, omws, xreiastei oi armodies arxes na laboyn tetoia metra, qa eprepe oi idioi oi foreis na symmorfwqoyn pros thn apofash, wste na mh xreiastei na fqasoyn sto shmeio na paroyn tetoia metra oi armodies arxes. Sthn Ellada, omws, polla pragmata den einai aytonohta h antimetwpizontai me teleiws diaforetiko tropo.

SOYGLERHS: Oi perissoteroi apo toys staqmoys poy akoyme to teleytaio dihmero kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh oti yparxoyn politikes eyqynes, dioti thn teleytaia dekaetia exoyn plhrwsei polla xrhmata kai opwsdhpote eprepe to topio na exei jekaqaristei prin kapoia xronia, mias kai h shmerinh kybernhsh einai polla xronia sthn ejoysia, einai to prwto. Kai to deytero, ti qa ginei me toys peripoy 2.000 texnikoys, ypallhloys, dhmosiografoys poy doyleyan se aytoys toys staqmoys kai poy apo shmera, opws leei h kybernhsh pairnei thn apofash na "katebasei to diakopth";

REPPAS: Den yparxei qema politikhs eyqynhs. O diagwnismos einai se ejelijh. Gnwrizete oti h diagwnistikh diadikasia jekinhse sta mesa toy 1997. Para poly dyskola qemata eprepe na diaxeiristoyme kai emeis kai to ESR. Qa eprepe, prwta apo ola, na katartistei enas xarths radiofwnikwn syxnothtwn. Den yphrxan ayta. Exei ginei poly shmantikh doyleia, h opoia apaithse xrono. Jekinhsame apo to mhden. Eixame ena geniko nomiko plaisio, to opoio eprepe na ejeidikeysoyme, na laboyme ypoch mas oles tis texnikes proypoqeseis gia na fqasoyme sto telos sth xorhghsh twn adeiwn. Epiteloys, oloklhrwnetai ayth h prospaqeia. Me kaqysterhsh; Bebaiws. Qymizw oti kai sto ESR oi sxetikoi fakeloi paremeinan gia peripoy dyo xronia. Den prepei na to agnoeite ayto. Ayto to opoio, epishs, exei shmasia na tonisw, einai toyto: H leitoyrgia enos staqmoy den qemeliwnei dikaiwma prosdokias. Poly perissotero, otan eixe aposafhnistei apo thn Politeia, me kaqe tropo kai kat` epanalhch, oti proswrinws qa leitoyrgoyn oi staqmoi ypo to shmerino kaqestws toys. Otan oloklhrwqei h diadikasia xorhghshs adeiwn, kapoioi staqmoi qa laboyn adeia. Opoioi den exoyn adeia, logiko den einai na stamathsoyn na leitoyrgoyn; An eseis lete oti prepei na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn, poios o logos na proboyme se ayth th diagwnistikh diadikasia; Ti nohma qa exei ean enas staqmos, enw epilegetai sto plaisio enos diagwnismoy kai exei adeia kai leitoyrgei basei ths adeias poy elabe, blepei oti dipla toy leitoyrgei enas allos staqmos o opoios exei aporrifqei apo to ESR kai para tayta leitoyrgei xwris na exei adeia; Ayth th "nomimothta" qelete na yioqethsoyme;

Epeita, yparxei ayto to problhma poy eipate, alla den lynetai etsi. Kai alla problhmata yparxoyn se polloys tomeis. Den prokeitai na odhghqoyme, eite se paranomes energeies, eite - poly perissotero- se energeies oi opoies blaptoyn to dhmosio symferon kai dhmioyrgoyn kindynoys kai gia thn asfaleia twn pthsewn -giati miloyme gia th leitoyrgia toy neoy aerodromioy- gia na antimetwpisoyme ena tetoio qema.

ANTYPAS: Dieykrinistika rwtw, pote qa ypogracete thn apofash toy ESR; Giati eipate, gia tis epomenes hmeres, gia xorhghsh twn adeiwn.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h xorhghsh twn adeiwn einai qema poy qa antimetwpisoyme sto syntomo xroniko diasthma poy akoloyqei. Qa prepei, dhladh, afoy twra labame thn apofash toy ESR, me epistolh mas na apeyqynqoyme stoys staqmoys poy epeleje to ESR gia na mas ypodeijoyn ton texniko toys ypeyqyno. Qa prepei oi idioi oi staqmoi na antapokriqoyn egkairws, prokeimenoy na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia.

ANTYPAS: Gia toys ypoloipoys oktw rwtw, oxi gi` aytoys poy apo twra qa paroyn adeia.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti gia tis treis nees adeies poy exoyme prokhryjei, symmetexoyn nomimws sth diadikasia 42 endiaferomenoi foreis. Aytoi oi 42 foreis einai gnwstoi sto ESR, to exoyme enhmerwsei. Oi fakeloi toys briskontai apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada sto ESR, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei h ajiologhsh toy periexomenoy toys kai na labei -syntoma pisteyw, afoy exei thn empeiria kai th gnwsh apo thn prohgoymenh diadikasia gia tis 20 adeies- thn apofash gia th xorhghsh twn triwn adeiwn.

Ayto einai, loipon, qema poy antimetwpizei to ESR. Oi fakeloi gia toys staqmoys aytoys poy symmetexoyn sth diadikasia gia th xorhghsh mias apo tis treis adeies poy exoyme prokhryjei, einai sth diaqesh toy ESR.

Sas eyxaristw.

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