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Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-03-01Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next ArticleFrom: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHSAqhna, 1 Martioy 2001H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWNJENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA Geia sas kai kalo mhna. Synedriase, shmera, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai syzhthse thn agrotikh politikh ths kybernhshs. Sthn arxh ths synedriashs, o Prwqypoyrgos epishmane, prwta apo ola, th megalh shmasia poy exei gia th xwra mas o agrotikos tomeas. Ypogrammise oti oi ejelijeis ston agrotiko tomea einai kaqoristikes, oxi mono gia ton tropo poy ergazetai kai zei ena kommati toy ellhnikoy plhqysmoy, alla kai to synolo ths xwras. H anasygkrothsh ths ypaiqroy, h diasfalish ths koinwnikhs synoxhs sthn ellhnikh perifereia, h prostasia toy periballontos, h prostasia toy polith katanalwth, o opoios agorazei kai katanalwnei ta agrotika proionta, kai bebaiws oi synqhkes ergasias kai to eisodhma aytwn twn idiwn twn agrotwn, einai agaqa ta opoia h kybernhsh mas einai apofasismenh na diasfalisei. O Prwqypoyrgos epishmane akomh oti ston tomea ayto parathroyntai ragdaies ejelijeis, oti oi allages einai polles kai poly shmantikes. Endeiktika anaferqhke se tria shmeia: Prwton, sto gegonos oti, gia to 2002, exei programmatistei na ginei epanejetash ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs kai na anamorfwqoyn orismenes politikes. Deyteron, stis synomilies poy ginontai sto plaisio toy pagkosmioy Organismoy Emporioy, gia tis anagkaies prosarmoges se o,ti afora thn apeleyqerwsh twn agorwn kai thn prostasia twn katanalwtwn sto neo emporiko periballon. Kai Triton, sthn prosfath krish poy ekdhlwqhke sthn E.E., ejaitias diaforwn asqeneiwn kai eidikotera ejaitias ths spoggwdoys egkefalopaqeias twn booeidwn, pragma poy deixnei oti prepei na entaqei h prospaqeia twn kybernhsewn, twn armodiwn yphresiwn, wste na prostateyqei h ygeia toy katanalwth. Prepei na doqei megalyterh barythta sthn poiothta twn paragomenwn proiontwn. Prepei na yparjei mia metatopish ths prosoxhs apo thn posothta ths paragwghs sthn poiothta twn paragomenwn proiontwn. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti h xwra mas proetoimazetai gia na antimetwpisei to neo periballon, opws diamorfwnetai apo tis ejelijeis aytes. Anaferqhke se orismena qemata, ta opoia briskontai kai pali sthn prwth grammh toy endiaferontos ths kybernhshs, giati apoteloyn ta kaqoristika shmeia gia thn poreia ths agrotikhs oikonomias kai to eisodhma twn agrotwn. Opws gia paradeigma: -H sxesh twn agrotwn me thn Agrotikh Trapeza. -H emporikh timh orismenwn proiontwn poy kineitai se xamhla epipeda. -H elleich h h aneparkeia se orismenes perioxes twn ydatinwn porwn poy einai anagkaioi gia th gewrgia.
Stoys amesoys stoxoys ths kybernhshs o Prwqypoyrgos anefere oti perilambanontai: -H anamorfwsh toy ELGA. -H efarmogh enos neoy systhmatos diaxeirishs twn epidothsewn gia toys agrotes. -H beltiwsh toy epipedoy ekpaideyshs, katartishs kai plhroforhshs twn agrotwn. -H prowqhsh twn qesmikwn allagwn, poy einai aparaithtes, sto neo periballon, logw twn allagwn poy parathroyntai genikotera. O Prwqypoyrgos ypogrammise oti h kybernhsh mas, pantote mexri twra -kai ayto qa synexisei na kanei kai sto mellon- deixnei endiaferon gia to megalo ayto tmhma toy ellhnikoy plhqysmoy. Ypogrammise oti oi shmantikes ejaggelies poy exoyme kanei prepei na peiqoyn sthn prajh oti odhgoyn se beltiwsh twn synqhkwn zwhs twn agrotwn. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na petyxoyme ena ychlo baqmo apotelesmatikothtas sthn politikh poy efarmozoyme, symfwna me tis ejaggelies mas. Anefere xarakthristika oti, me thn politikh mas, qa prepei na empneysoyme stoys agrotes ena aisqhma asfaleias kai bebaiothtas gia to mellon. Na toys empedwsoyme thn pepoiqhsh oti h prospaqeia toys ameibetai, oti o agwnas poy kanoyn, me th dikh mas bohqeia, gia thn anasygkrothsh ths ellhnikhs perifereias, qa exei aisio apotelesma. O armodios Ypoyrgos Gewrgias Giwrgos Anwmeriths paraxwrei synenteyjh Typoy gia ta qemata ayta stoys synadelfoys sas. Apo th dikh toy eishghsh, h opoia htan leptomerestath, periorizomai na anaferw orismena mono shmeia: Anaferqhke, prwta apo ola, stoys shmantikoys poroys poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas, sto plaisio ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs. Oi poroi aytoi, gia thn periodo mexri to 2006, fqanoyn ta 11 trisekatommyria draxmes, opws gnwrizete. Anaferqhke stis tomes, sto qesmiko plaisio, th dhmioyrgia newn apokentrwmenwn mhxanismwn, wste to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias na exei yphresies pistopoihshs kai elegxoy se olh thn ellhnikh perifereia. Epishs, oi politikes epiloges toy Ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias yposthrizontai, prwta apo ola, me th sthrijh ths politikhs ths pistopoihshs twn proiontwn, wste ta agrotika proionta na exoyn sygkekrimenh taytothta, na einai "epwnyma proionta", na diekdikhsoyn kai na kerdisoyn ws epwnyma proionta mia qesh sthn agora. Anamesa stis proteraiothtes ths agrotikhs politikhs mas einai akomh: -H strofh sthn kataskeyh mikrwn apodotikwn ergwn, ydatinwn porwn se diafores perioxes ths xwras. -H dhmioyrgia enos systhmatos plhroforhshs twn agrotwn, mesw enos doryforikoy diktyoy. -H prostasia ths agrotikhs paragwghs me ton eksygxronismo toy ELGA. -H prowqhsh newn politikwn, oson afora ton elegxo twn timwn, alla kai thn emporia twn agrotikwn proiontwn. -H diaxeirish twn koinotikwn epidothsewn me apeyqeias plhrwmh sto logariasmo twn paragwgwn, xwris krathseis kai xwris kaqysterhsh, xwris na paremballontai pleon oi synetairistikes organwseis. -H syndesh -pragma poy ginetai anagkaio meta tis teleytaies syzhthseis gia th noso twn booeidwn- ths politikhs ayths me to periballon, me thn asfalh xrhsimopoihsh twn trofimwn, me thn ygeia twn katanalwtwn. Kai telos, -H dhmioyrgia dasikwn systhmatwn gia th sthrijh kai anaptyjh twn periastikwn daswn. To logo phran para polloi ypoyrgoi. Antilambaneste pws to qema ayto exei idiaitero endiaferon gia thn kybernhsh mas. O Prwqypoyrgos, sto kleisimo ths syzhthshs: Tonise me emfash thn anagkh na beltiwqoyn ta programmata ekpaideyshs, katartishs kai plhroforhshs twn agrotwn kai idiaitera twn newn agrotwn, poy apoteloyn to krisimo tmhma toy plhqysmoy poy qa shkwsei to baros ths anaptyjhs ths agrotikhs oikonomias kata ta epomena xronia. Tonise thn anagkh prowqhshs syndyasmenwn politikwn, wste na ejasfalizontai kalyteres synqhkes zwhs sthn ypaiqro, sta xwria poy zoyn oi agrotes. Pera apo tis eidikes politikes poy aforoyn toys agrotes, oi politikes gia thn ypaiqro bohqoyn na yparxei ena kalytero koinwniko periballon, sto opoio qa mporoyn na zhsoyn kai na ergastoyn oi agrotes, wste na mhn parathreitai ayto to fainomeno ths metakinhshs twn neoterwn atomwn apo thn ypaiqro sta hmiastika kai astika kentra. Epishmane thn anagkh beltiwshs toy pistwtikoy systhmatos, gia thn ejyphrethsh twn agrotwn. Kai eipe, epeidh gia to qema ayto oi kritikes poy diatypwnontai kai oi analyseis poy ginontai exoyn synhqws mia apaisiodojh xroia, oti qa prepei na anadeijoyme me thn politikh mas to gegonos oti h prooptikh gia thn ellhnikh gewrgia einai aisiodojh. Yparxoyn metra politikhs se eyrwpaiko, alla kai se eqniko epipedo. Emeis, paramenoyme staqera sth qesh ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs, apenanti se opoiadhpote tash epaneqnikopoihshs ths agrotikhs politikhs thn opoia kapoies alles dynameis eynooyn kai prowqoyn. Epishs, eipe oti h koinwnikh synoxh, poy einai meizon agaqo gia thn ellhnikh koinwnia, se megalo baqmo ejartatai apo ta apotelesmata poy qa petyxoyme sthn anaptyjh ths ellhnikhs gewrgias. Meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, pragmatopoihqhke eyreia syskech, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, me th symmetoxh melwn toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. O ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Staqopoylos ekane sxetikh dhlwsh. Qema ths syzhthshs htan h nomoqetikh prwtoboylia poy analambanei to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, gia thn opoia exoyme syzhthsei kat` epanalhch. Paroysiase toys ajones ths politikhs toy neoy nomosxedioy, poy afora thn prostasia toy polith apenanti sto organwmeno egklhma kai zhthse tis apoceis twn melwn toy Y.S. poy meteixan sth syskech. O Prwqypoyrgos, telikws, edwse tis kateyqynseis poy prepei na akoloyqhsei o armodios Ypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na oloklhrwsei thn katartish toy nomosxedioy, to opoio qa paroysiasei sthn telikh morfh toy, meta apo liges hmeres. Gia ola ayta qa yparjei enhmerwsh apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti shmera o ypoyrgos Ygeias k. Papadopoylos, sto plaisio twn shmantikwn, rizikwn allagwn poy prowqei gia thn anasygkrothsh toy ESY, proxwrhse, efarmozontas to nomo sthn topoqethsh 17 epikefalhs twn Perifereiakwn Systhmatwn Ygeias (PeSY). Sta PeSY topoqetoyntai epikefalhs stelexh poy exoyn ejeidikeymenh gnwsh kai empeiria sto antikeimeno me to opoio qa asxolhqoyn. Pisteyoyme oti h topoqethsh kai h energopoihsh aytwn twn paragontwn, sto plaisio anasygkrothshs toy ESY, qa apotelesei mia prowqhtikh dynamh, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme kalyteres yphresies ygeias pros toys Ellhnes polites. Gnwrizete akomh, oti stis 25 Ianoyarioy, eixa symmetasxei sth synedriash ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs. Sth synedriash eixa anaferqei sto synolo ths politikhs toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai MME. Idiaiterws eixa epishmanei thn anagkh na antimetwpistoyn sygkekrimena problhmata poy exoyn prokycei meta tis apofaseis poy elabe to ESR, gia th baqmologhsh twn ypochfiwn na laboyn adeia radiofwnikwn staqmwn. Eipa, epishs, oti anamenw tis apoceis twn kommatwn gia to pws mporoyme na antimetwpisoyme ayta ta problhmata. Hrqe h wra na proxwrhsoyme sth sxetikh nomoqetikh prwtoboylia se synexeia kai synepeia twn oswn eipame tote. Ta praktika ekeinhs ths synedriashs einai sth diaqesh kaqe endiaferomenoy, wste o kaqenas na antilhfqei oti to periexomeno aytwn twn diatajewn den einai tipota allo, para h kwdikopoihsh kai h me nomotexniko tropo epanalhch aytwn twn skecewn h twn politikwn epilogwn poy tote, gia prwth fora, anefera sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs. Tonisa kai ston Proedro ths Boylhs, epeidh kateqesa sxetikh tropologia, prokeimenoy na syzhthqei sto nomosxedio poy syzhteitai shmera sth Boylh, oti h kybernhsh epiqymei th syzhthsh aytwn twn diatajewn, shmera, efoson symfwnei to synolo twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. Aytes oi ryqmiseis einai lites, exoyn diadikastiko h texniko xarakthra kai einai aparaithto na prowqhqoyn gia na antimetwpistoyn qemata toy radiothleoptikoy tomea. Bebaiws, efoson diatypwqhke antirrhsh apo thn antipoliteysh, ayth h syzhthsh metatiqetai se mia epomenh fash, thn epomenh ebdomada. Einai pantws ena qema poy prepei na mas apasxolhsei kai qa to syzhthsoyme ayth thn periodo. Sto qema ayto exei kanei dhlwseis, metajy twn allwn kai o ekproswpos ths N.D. Qa hqela na prosqesw -qelw na kanw politiko sxolio, den ajizei na apanthsw- oti mas exoyn synhqisei h N.D. kai alles dynameis apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs na kinoyntai enantion ths nomimothtas, thn opoia eite o basikos nomos, eite metagenesteres diatajeis, exoyn egkaqidrysei gia th leitoyrgia twn optikoakoystikwn Meswn sthn patrida mas. Pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na ginontai sebastes oi apofaseis poy lambanoyn orismena organa me sygkekrimenes armodiothtes gia qemata poy toys exoyn anateqei, opws to ESR. Aytoi poy eynohsan thn anarxh diamorfwsh toy radiothleoptikoy topioy, einai oi teleytaioi poy mporoyn na egkaloyn thn kybernhsh gia paraleiceis h kaqysterhseis sthn efarmogh ths politikhs ths. H politikh mas exei ena apokleistiko stoxo: thn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy. To triptyxo ths politikhs mas sthn kateyqynsh ayth einai oi arxes ths nomimothtas, ths diafaneias kai ths poiothtas. Oson afora thn egkaqidrysh ths nomimothtas, prepei na ginoyn oi allages tis opoies prowqoyme. Pisteyw oti me nhfalia kai cyxraimh syzhthsh qa odhghqoyme se ena apotelesma, poy einai pros to symferon olwn kai poly perissotero pros to symferon twn politwn, akroatwn. Pros to symferon ths politikhs, h opoia qa prepei sthn prajh na deixnei oti exei kaqares sxeseis me tis alles dynameis toy koinwnikoy bioy, opws einai ta MME. Na mh metatrepetai kaqe politikos se ekproswpo epixeirhmatikwn symferontwn poy anaptyssontai sto xwro ths epikoinwnias kai ths enhmerwshs. Kai bebaiws, einai pros to symferon kai twn idiwn twn MME, afoy h aposafhnish toy topioy qa eynohsei th leitoyrgia toys, katw apo synqhkes diafaneias kai ygioys antagwnismoy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas. MPOYATAR: Ean apofasisate thn prolhch metrwn gia thn antimetwpish toy afrwqoys pyretoy, giati polles xwres ths E.E. elaban tetoia metra. REPPAS: Prwta ap ola prepei na poyme oti h Ellada einai apo tis liges xwres ths E.E. poy den antimetwpizei kanena tetoio problhma. Kroysmata poy parathrhqhkan sto parelqon antimetwpisthkan me riziko tropo. Milw gia thn perioxh toy Ebroy. Milw gia mia periodo h opoia den exei kamia sxesh me th shmerinh pragmatikothta. Anaferomai sto parelqon. Gnwrizete oti tote qanatwqhke enas megalos ariqmos zwwn gia na antimetwpisoyme me riziko tropo ayto to problhma. Shmera den exoyme kanena allo problhma. Alla, asfalws, oi elegxoi poy ginontai apo ta ereynhtika kentra poy yparxoyn se diafores perioxes ths Elladas einai entatikoi. Pisteyoyme oti h Ellada qa parameinei kai sto mellon, ekeinh h xwra poy paragei trofima apo zwikh paragwgh, ta opoia einai apolytws asfalh gia toys katanalwtes. Yparxei diarkhs elegxos apo ta tessera kentra elegxoy poy yparxoyn se olh thn Ellada, MPOYATAR: As poyme gia toys episkeptes apo thn Agglia. Problepetai kati, giati exei apodeixqei oti mporei na metaferqei h asqeneia ayth. REPPAS: Prepei na pw oti aytos o fobos einai yperbolikos. Yparxoyn zwonosoi oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn problhmata ston anqrwpo, alla o afrwdhs pyretos den einai metajy aytwn. KARGOYRH: Oson afora thn agrotikh politikh eipate oti epi ths arxhs epimenete sthn koinh agrotikh politikh kai eiste kata ths tashs ths epaneqnikopoihshs. Ayth h tash einai meiochfoysa h pleiochfoysa entos ths E.E.; REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti kaqe Ellhnas poy yperaspizetai to symferon ths xwras mas qa prepei na einai yper ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs. Poly perissotero aytoi oi idioi oi agrotes giati toys afora eyqews. Sto plaisio ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs, meta th Synodo toy Berolinoy, diasfalisame poroys synolikoy ycoys 11 tris draxmwn. Ta 7 tris proerxontai apo ta tameia ths E.E. Einai xarakthristiko oti h Ellada exei parei to 9,2% toy synoloy twn porwn poy diaqetei h E.E. gia thn agrotikh politikh, enw kalliergei to 2,8% twn kalliergoymenwn ektasewn sthn E.E. kai exei to 4,5% ths synolikhs paragwghs sto gewrgiko tomea sthn E.E. Blepete, loipon, oti ta kondylia poy exei ejasfalisei h xwra mas kai ta opoia qa ajiopoihqoyn me diaforoys tropoys, prokeimenoy na beltiwqei to agrotiko eisodhma, einai yperpollaplasia se sygkrish me to epipedo sto opoio kineitai h ellhnikh gewrgikh paragwgh h to epipedo twn ektasewn poy kalliergoyntai sthn Ellada. Enw, loipon, exoyme 9,2% toy synoloy twn porwn, eimaste mia xwra poy exei to 2,8% twn kalliergoymenwn ektasewn kai to 4,5% ths synolikhs paragwghs ths E.E. Pisteyoyme oti oi megales xwres ths E.E., stis opoies o gewrgikos tomeas einai ena poly mikro pososto sthn paragwgikh bash ths oikonomias toys, qa hqelan periorismoys h meiwseis twn kondyliwn. Me alla logia, ``yponomeysh'' ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs, apo tis xwres poy den einai gewrgikes. Oi xwres poy mporoyme na tis apokalesoyme gewrgikes, opws einai kai h dikh mas, exoyn kaqe logo na epimeinoyn staqera sth synexish ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs. KARGOYDH: Me toys ariqmoys poy paraqesate afhnete na ennohqei oti, en oligois, ``patsisame''. REPPAS: Oxi. Afhnw na ennohqei oti h Ellada einai idiaitera eynohmenh kai oti ayto apotelei ena akomh epiteygma twn prospaqeiwn ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy petyxan sth diapragmateysh poy egine sth Synodo toy Berolinoy, ayta ta poly shmantika apotelesmata. KARGOYDH: Epomenws eimaste ek twn adynatwn poy qa synexisoyn na epimenoyn sth anagkh... REPPAS: Oti eimaste ek twn adynatwn einai gnwsto. Alla, einai perissotero apo bebaio oti qa synexisoyme na epimenoyme sthn anagkh ths koinhs agrotikhs politikhs. Qewroyme oti ayto einai stoixeio, ek twn wn oyk aney, gia thn anaptyjh ths gewrgikhs oikonomias. KARGOYDH: Oson afora to nomo kata toy organwmenoy egklhmatos qa hqela na kanw mia erwthsh. Exw thn entypwsh, apo thn enhmerwsh sas, oti o Prwqypoyrgos den kalyfqhke apolytws apo to nomosxedio poy toy emfanise o k. Staqopoylos. Ekane kapoies parathrhseis gia na epanelqei ayto to nomosxedio pio oloklhrwmeno; REPPAS: Miloyme gia nomosxedio poy anaferetai sthn prostasia twn politwn apenanti sto organwmeno egklhma. H syzhthsh poy egine shmera htan h prwth gia to qema ayto. H syskech eixe xarakthra atyphs synergasias, den htan synedriash enos typikoy kybernhtikoy organoy. H eishghsh toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs htan plhrhs. Prepei na pw oti ola ayta poy eishghqhke o armodios Ypoyrgos, mazi me tis xrhsimes parathrhseis poy akoysthkan apo toys symmetexontes sth syskech, prepei na ajiologhqoyn gia na symperilhfqoyn sto keimeno, to opoio qa parei th morfh nomosxedioy, prokeimenoy na ginei enas dhmosios dialogos prin katalhjoyme sth telikh diamorfwsh toy keimenoy. H enarjh aytwn twn syzhthsewn me tropo epishmo kai egkyro, anamenetai se peripoy 10-15 hmeres, efoson apo thn pleyra toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs oloklhrwqei ayth h ergasia. Alla, mexri tote, parakalw na apofygete ki eseis to peirasmo symmetoxhs sas se tetoioy eidoys syzhthseis poy syxna den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta, me to periexomeno dhladh, ayths ths nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias. ARGYROS: Qa hqela na moy ejhghsete to skeptiko ths tropologias poy ferate shmera. Pws mporei na xrhsimopoioyn mia syxnothta dyo kai treis staqmoi kai ean to qewreite efikto, giati den exei symbei sto parelqon. Giati akoygetai ligo san ``radiofwnikos Kapodistrias''. REPPAS: Prwta ap ola xairomai gia thn erwthsh giati moy dinete thn eykairia na epanelqw sto qema. Prepei na pw oti sth selida 6 twn praktikwn ekeinhs ths synedriashs ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, stis 25.1.2001, anaferontas diafora stoixeia, eipa sygkekrimena oti ``edw yparxei ena nomiko keno kai qelw kai th dikh sas gnwmh kai qa sas pw kai th dikh mas apoch gi ayto to qema, enocei kapoiwn dynatothtwn poy exoyme, afoy prokeitai syntoma na prokhryjoyme nees syxnothtes, tis opoies mas exei diaqesei h YPA''. Exoyme pragmati prokhryjei th xorhghsh triwn akomh adeiwn, kat antistoixia twn triwn syxnothtwn poy exei diaqesei h YPA. Prepei na pw oti ola osa eipa ekeinh thn hmera kwdikopoioyntai kai metaferontai sth nomoqetikh prwtoboylia poy analambanoyme. Prepei, epishs, na pw oti den elaba apanthsh apo kanenan, para to oti exei perasei enas kai pleon mhnas. Oydeis ekproswpos, oyden komma topoqethqhke epi toy qematos kai ayto kati shmainei: Mono otan ena qema erxetai sthn epikairothta, para polloi biazontai na kataferqoyn enantion ths kybernhshs h na yperaspistoyn diaforoys foreis gia logoys poy oloi antilambaneste. Proswpikhs politikhs taktikhs kai strathgikhs einai ayto to qema. Kaqenas exei dikaiwma na kanei tis epiloges toy, alla oloi qa prepei na sebastoyme th nomimothta. H nomimothta leei oti, enocei ths leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy, oi staqmoi oi opoioi qa synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn sto nomo Attikhs einai aytoi poy qa ejasfalisoyn th sxetikh adeia poy problepetai apo thn prokhryjh kai th diagwnistikh diadikasia poy akoloyqhse. Den tiqetai qema ``Kapodistria'' sthn periptwsh twn radiofwnikwn h thleoptikwn staqmwn. Giati meta apo meletes episthmonikwn forewn, texnikwn yphresiwn einai sygkekrimenos o ariqmos twn syxnothtwn poy einai diaqesimes, toso gia toys thleoptikoys, oso kai gia toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys. O nomos sthn Ellada, swsta kata thn apoch moy, ypoxrewnei na prokhryssoyme kai na xorhgoyme adeies gia kaqe syxnothta poy einai diaqesimh. Se alles xwres yparxoyn diaqesimes syxnothtes, alla h Politeia den einai ypoxrewmenh na kalyptei aytes tis syxnothtes paraxwrwntas adeies gia thn katalhch twn syxnothtwn se thleoptikoys kai radiofwnikoys staqmoys. O ariqmos, loipon, aytos prokyptei ej antikeimenoy. Den einai apotelesma politikhs epiloghs. Den einai mikroteros h megalyteros analogws toy ti einai ayto poy epiqymoyme emeis. Einai sygkekrimenos giati etsi prokyptei mesa apo thn episthmonikh meleth twn yphresiwn kai twn forewn poy gnwrizoyn to qema ayto kai asxoloyntai me to antikeimeno ayto. Ara, loipon, h epilogh sthn opoia proxwroyme -qelw na freskarw th mnhmh sas- afora thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos poy proekyce meta thn apofash toy ESR, symfwna me thn opoia isobaqmoyn sthn idia qesh treis radiofwnikoi staqmoi. Einai 20 oi adeies poy xorhgoyntai, opws problepei h prokhryjh. Prepei na sas pw oti den prepei pantote na taytizoyme ton ariqmo twn syxnothtwn me ton ariqmo twn forewn poy ekpempoyn programma. Dhladh, mporei perissoteroi apo enas foreis na xrhsimopoioyn apo koinoy thn idia syxnothta. Ayto to problepei o n. 2328. To agnoeite; Ayto einai kati to opoio efoson to epiqymoyn oi endiaferomenoi mporei na ginei. Ean ayto den einai efikto -kai einai qema dikhs toys epiloghs, thn opoia apolytws sebomai- qa prepei na proxwrhsoyme se mia ryqmish wste na aposafhnisoyme to topio. H ryqmish, loipon, ayth mporei kata thn apoch mas na einai h klhrwsh. Qa mporoyse na einai h epanajiologhsh twn staqmwn poy isobaqmoyn me probadisma, oson afora ta krithria gia thn ajiologhsh toys, ekeinwn twn krithriwn poy anaferontai se ena sygkekrimeno tomea, opws einai p.x. to programma. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh ayto den mporei na ginei, giati gnwrizoyme pws baqmologhqhkan oi isobaqmoyntes radiofwnikoi staqmoi se kaqenan apo toys tesseris tomeis poy einai kai ta tessera krithria, basei twn opoiwn moriodotoyntai. Ara, ean ryqmizame to qema etsi, ean diname dhladh kateyqynsh sto ESR na baqmologhsei pali toys staqmoys me bash sygkekrimeno krithrio, qa gnwrizame poia einai h ekbash ayths ths ajiologhshs, afoy gnwrizoyme kaqe radiofwnikos staqmos apo aytoys poy isobaqmoyn ti moria exei parei se ena sygkekrimeno tomea. Se polles periptwseis xrhsimopoieitai h meqodos ths klhrwshs, opws p.x. problepei h eklogikh nomoqesia. Kalo htan na thn apofygoyme, den yparxei omws allh dynatothta. Kapoioi elegan oti mporoyme na paraxwrhsoyme mia adeia akomh. Ma, eixame prokhryjei 20 adeies. Kai epeita, otan paraxwreis akomh mia adeia, stereis ena agaqo apo alloys foreis poy symmetexoyn se ayth th diadikasia kai anamenoyn th nea prokhryjh, prokeimenoy na diekdikhsoyn ki aytoi mia adeia leitoyrgias radiofwnikoy staqmoy. Dhladh, ean diname 21 adeies, qa eprepe na prokhryjoyme dyo adeies. Omws, oi ypoloipoi staqmoi poy diekdikoyn adeia qa enoiwqan oti adikoyntai. Den einai aperioristos o ariqmos twn syxnothtwn. Ara, oloi oi alloi staqmoi qa diekdikoysan dyo adeies kai oxi treis. Ola ayta prepei na ta blepoyme me tropo ypeyqyno. H kritikh mas prepei na einai tekmhriwmenh kai lypoymai giati den einai tekmhriwmenh. Yparxei skopimothta thn opoia antilambanomai. Den antilambanomai omws, poia einai ta oria sta opoia mporei na fqasei ayth h skopimothta. Ayth einai, loipon, h epilogh mas. ARGYROS: Efoson, loipon, lete oti den mporoysate na dwsete kai thn allh adeia giati sto telos qa diekdikoysan oi alloi dyo adeies, qelw na sas rwthsw qa allajei h moriodothsh; Dhladh, aytoi oi staqmoi, o enas staqmos poy qa meinei ap ejw, twra me th neoterh moriodothsh qa exei ligotera moria; Yparxei kapoio tetoio stoixeio; REPPAS: Prwta ap ola to qema ayto den afora thn antimetwpish enos sygkekrimenoy problhmatos, to opoio gnwrizete kai ayto einai poy syzhtoyme twra. Einai mia ryqmish poy exei genikoterh isxy kai ajia. Kalyptoyme ena nomiko keno, giati o nomos den problepei ti ginetai se periptwsh isobaqmias, kata thn ajiologhsh twn staqmwn apo to ESR. Antimetwpizoyme ayto to qema. Kai deyteron, antimetwpizoyme ena akomh qema poy einai poio: Einai to qema poy prokyptei otan, enw einai se ejelijh kai den exei oloklhrwqei ayth h diagwnistikh diadikasia symfwna me mia prokhryjh poy exei ginei sto parelqon, epeidh apeleyqerwnontai syxnothtes kai jekina mia nea diagwnistikh diadikasia gia th xorhghsh newn adeiwn, qa prepei na doyme sth metabatikh periodo poioi staqmoi einai ekeinoi poy mporoyn na leitoyrgoyn. Ayto afora kai toys radiofwnikoys kai toys thleoptikoys staqmoys. Enw qa eprepe oloi na epiqymoyme thn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy, blepw oti me diaforoys tropoys diastreblwnetai h pragmatikothta, protassontai ta proswpika symferonta. Einai dikaiwma toys na to kanoyn, alla oxi mexri shmeioy tetoioy, wste na dhmioyrgoyn thn entypwsh oti h kybernhsh einai ayth poy kineitai me tropo paranomo kai aneyqyno, enw symbainei to entelws antiqeto. H kybernhsh kineitai me tropo ypeyqyno kai episthmonika artio, giati epiqymoyme na fqasoyme sto skopo poy exoyme qesei se ayto ton tomea ths politikhs mas. Ayto prepei na einai safes. Kai paramenoyme se ayth thn politikh. H ajiologhsh poy qa ginei apo to ESR qa afora to synolo twn staqmwn, efoson oi staqmoi exoyn orismenes proypoqeseis: Na leitoyrgoysan thn 1h Noembrioy toy 1999 -kai milw gia radiofwnikoys staqmoys- opws problepei o n. 2778/1999. Na exoyn parei meros sthn prwth diagwnistikh diadikasia, na pairnoyn meros sth deyterh, th nea diagwnistikh diadikasia kai bebaiws, aytonohto einai, na exoyn tis typikes proypoqeseis gia na kriqoyn. Twra, se ayth th fash @ayth einai h diafora- to ESR qa mporei na krinei to synolo twn staqmwn poy plhroyn tis proypoqeseis, ayth th stigmh, pragma to opoio den ekane sto plaisio ths prohgoymenhs diagwnistkhs diadikasias, giati otan ekrine staqmoys, me bash to kaqestws toys mia orismenh xronikh stigmh, ekeinh th xronikh stigmh polloi staqmoi apokleisthkan epeidh den eixan tis typikes proypoqeseis. Anaferomai se enan allo staqmo, opws einai o Plannet. O Plannet, efoson th stigmh poy qa klhqei to ESR na ton ajiologhsei kai na ton baqmologhsei, exei tis typikes proypoqeseis qa kriqei, opws qa kriqoyn kai oi alloi staqmoi poy eixan apokleistei sto prwto stadio. Ayth einai h diafora. ARGYROS: Mas lete, dhladh, oti enas staqmos poy exei kriqei apo thn prwth diadikasia kai einai 18os sth moriodothsh, sth nea moriodothsh poy qa ginei meta th nea prokhryjh twn triwn adeiwn, mporei na kriqei oti qa einai 60os. REPPAS: Den katalabate kala. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi prwtoi 20 staqmoi qa laboyn adeia. Ara, loipon, den tiqetai qema krishs toy 18oy staqmoy, opws xarakthristika eipate. Omws, den prepei na prokatalaboyme thn apofash toy ESR. O 21os staqmos, as poyme, aytos poy qa meinei ws prwtos epilaxwn ektos eikosadas, qa ajiologhqei pali apo to ESR, opws kai oloi oi alloi staqmoi. Einai qema toy ESR an kapoios staqmos, o opoios eixe apokleistei sthn prohgoymenh diadikasia, epeidh den eixe tote tis typikes proypoqeseis, alla twra tis exei, meta thn efarmogh ths diatajhs toy arqroy 19 par. 1 toy N.2644/98, kriqei oti exei moria kai ajiologoymenos topoqeteitai se mia orismenh seira. Alla, ola ayta, einai qemata poy qa ta antimetwpisei to ESR. Opws blepete, ta gnwrizoyme poly kala ayta ta qemata kai prepei na sas pw oti gia xarh twn MME exoyme diaqesei ametrhtes wres kai exoyme kanei poly kopo gia na antimetwpisoyme ena "qhrio", giati paralabame mia katastash anarxias kai asydosias. Prospaqoyme na aposafhnisoyme to radiothleoptiko topio. Prepei na sas pw oti synanthsame polla empodia kai apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, ta opoia otan den toys aresoyn oi apofaseis toy ESR mas kaloyn na tis anapemcoyme, enw kata ta alla timoyn (!) to ESR kai qewroyn oti emeis yponomeyoyme to ergo toy, kai thn krisimh wra poy prepei na topoqethqoyn epi sygkekrimenwn qematwn, apoysiazoyn. Sas eipa poio erwthma eixa qesei tote, stis 25 Ianoyarioy, sth synedriash ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias kai den exw parei akomh apanthsh. Den qa antimetwpisoyme ta qemata; Epeidh den apanta h antipoliteysh, emeis qa meinoyme me stayrwmena ta xeria; Qa limnazoyn ta problhmata; Ayth einai h politikh eyqynh; Kai se teleytaia analysh, o sygkekrimenos radiofwnikos staqmos me thn onomasia SKAI, gnwrizete poly kala, oti toso sthn prwth ajiologhsh poy egine to 1999 apo to ESR me thn tote synqesh toy, oso kai me thn ajiologhsh toy ESR me th shmerinh synqesh toy, phre ton idio ariqmo moriwn. ARGYROS: Thn epomenh ebdomada poy qa erqei h tropologia pros syzhthsh, qa einai idia h tropologia; Giati, efoson kai tote qa antidrasei h antipoliteysh, tote poia qa einai h diafora; REPPAS: An h antipoliteysh exei kapoia allh kalyterh protash na kanei, qa thn akoysoyme me poly megalo endiaferon. An h antipoliteysh aplws "niptei tas xeiras ths", opws kanei systhmatika mexri twra, eite apoxwrwntas apo th Boylh -synebh sto nomo gia tis syndromhtikes radiothleoptikes yphresies- eite aplws arneitai na parei qesh epi twn qematwn gia na antipoliteyqei thn kybernhsh, antilambaneste pws emeis eimaste kybernhsh. Kai edw, gia allh mia afora, apodeiknyetai poia einai h diafora metajy kybernhshs kai antipoliteyshs. To exw pei, kat` epanalhch. Emeis eimaste parontes me thn ypografh mas, me tis apofaseis mas, me to ergo mas. Oi alloi, me ton anejodo logo toys, o opoios mporei na einai filikos kai eyxaristos se oloys. Pisteyoyn oti etsi ejasfalizoyn thn politikh paroysia toys. Ayth einai h megalh diafora metajy kybernhshs kai antipoliteyshs. Emeis, loipon, dexomaste na shkwsoyme to baros poy shkwnei kaqe kybernhsh. Qeloyme na eimaste Kybernhsh. Oi alloi qeloyn na einai antipoliteysh. As parameinoyn, as arkestoyn se aytoy toy eidoys thn politikh symperifora. KALARITHS: H bretanikh kybernhsh ejedwse mia lista me tromokratikes organwseis. Ginetai anafora kai sth 17N kai sto RKK. Qa hqela to sxolio sas. REPPAS: H 17N einai gnwsto oti einai mia tromokratikh organwsh kai h prospaqeia gia thn ejarqrwsh ths einai synexhs apo th dikh mas pleyra. Einai mia prospaqeia, h opoia ginetai apo koinoy me yphresies arketwn allwn xwrwn, metajy twn opoiwn kai h kybernhsh ths Megalhs Bretanias. Elpizoyme na fqasoyme se apotelesmata, giati ayto epiballei to symferon ths xwras. Ayth h dieqnhs mastiga ths tromokratias qa prepei na ejaleifqei kai gi` ayto apaiteitai syndyasmenh drash. KALARITHS: Qa hqela kai ena sxolio gia to RKK. REPPAS: Exoyme, kat` epanalhch, milhsei gia to qema ayto, to opoio afora ta atomika dikaiwmata kai tis dhmokratikes eleyqeries sthn Toyrkia. Qa prepei oi polites se kaqe xwra na exoyn th dynatothta na ekproswpoyntai me tropo poy oi idioi qewroyn oti einai swstos kai nomimos. Kai bebaiws pantote qa prepei na ginontai sebasta ta dikaiwmata toys. Sto plaisio enos dhmokratikoy politeymatos, gnwrizete, oti kaqenas ekfrazetai eleyqera, xwris na epitrepetai na katafeygei se prajeis bias, pragma to opoio kai emeis apodokimazoyme. MPOTWNHS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se allo zhthma sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy; Kai epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean einai ikanopoihmenos gia thn eikona poy paroysiase h kybernhsh, toso me toys seismoplhktoys poy emeinan xwris hlektriko reyma, oso kai gia tis kwlysiergies sxetika me th xorhghsh syntajewn stoys asfalismenoys toy IKA. REPPAS: Den egine kamia anafora sth shmerinh synedriash, apo thn pleyra toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Gia ta alla qemata, exoyme apanthsei. Oson afora toys seismoplhktoys, exei apanthsei kai h DEH. Oson afora tis oyres poy parathroyntai sta katasthmata yphresiwn poy prepei na kataballoyn tis syntajeis se dikaioyxoys toy IKA, h katastash ayth pisteyoyme oti beltiwnetai kaqhmerina. Oi eyqynes asfalws yparxoyn. Eipa kai xqes oti asfalws mas stenaxwrei ayto to gegonos. Alla den fqanei ayto. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na antapokriqoyme sthn eyqynh mas, na dwsoyme stoys sympolites mas ayto poy dikaioyntai, dhladh tis syntajeis toys, egkairws kai me tropo o opoios den qa toys talaipwrei. Den xreiazetai na kanoyme opoiodhpote allo sxolio. Den einai qema dysareskeias h ikanopoihshs. Einai qema eyqynhs. O Prwqypoyrgos kai oloi mas prepei na antapokriqoyme sthn eyqynh mas. Den arkei na milame stoys polites, paroysiazontas ti einai ayto to opoio aisqanomaste h skeptomaste mono. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai oi sympolites na antilambanontai pws sth zwh toys kati allazei pros to kalytero, ws synepeia aytoy poy kanoyme. I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Oi eyqynes, opws eipate, yparxoyn. Qa apodoqoyn; Kai rwtw, giati yparxoyn plhrofories oti o k. Shmiths esteile nea epistolh pros ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, me thn opoia zhta thn entatikopoihsh twn ryqmwn toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. REPPAS: Den jerw se ti anafereste. Ej oswn gnwrizw, den exoyn apostalei tetoies epistoles. I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Sas erwtw, giati shmera yparxoyn sxetika dhmosieymata gia to qema ayto. REPPAS: Den to apokleiw. Egw anaferomai se qema to opoio qesate eseis. DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gnwrizete ti exei ginei me thn prokatarktikh ereyna gia qema oikonomikhs diaxeirishs poy diejhgage epitroph toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn sth Monimh Ellhnikh Antiproswpeia toy OASE poy edreyei sth Biennh; REPPAS: Parakalw gia ta qemata ayta poy einai poly sygkekrimena kai edika, na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Den gnwrizw poio einai to apotelesma ayths ths ereynas. Epifylassomai na epanelqw, alla eykola mporeite na antlhsete plhrofories apo ton k. Mpeglith. EYSTAQIOY: Se synexeia ths erwthshs toy synadelfoy k. Kampoyrakh: Rwthse an qa apodoqoyn oi eyqynes, giati eipate oti oi eyqynes oytws h allws yparxoyn. Ayto to skelos den to apanthsate. REPPAS: Otan dhmioyrgeitai ena tetoio problhma, asfalws yparxoyn kai kapoies eyqynes. Den prokyptoyn ta problhmata apo mona toys. Den fytrwnoyn san loyloydia apo th gh, oyte emfanizontai san broxh apo ton oyrano. Ta problhmata ta dhmioyrgoyn oi anqrwpoi. Kai oi anqrwpoi kaloyntai na ta lysoyn. Exoyme synaisqhsh ths katastashs kai prospaqoyme na antimetwpisoyme ola ayta ta problhmata. Den einai toy parontos o epimerismos twn eyqynwn. Antilambaneste oti oi eyqynes mporei na einai politikes h dioikhtikes. Telika, oloys mas krinei o ellhnikos laos. EYSTAQIOY: Sxetika me to qema twn epistolwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ta dhmosieymata ekanan logo oti ystera apo kapoia epafh h synergasia me ton k. Diamantoyro, o Prwqypoyrgos anaferotan se kapoia sygkekrimena kaqhmerina problhmata politwn. Xqes, edwse aytes tis epistoles, prokeimenoy, profanws, na antimetwpistoyn ayta ta problhmata. REPPAS: Pragmati, synanthqhke o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Diamantoyro, o opoios einai epikefalhs ths Anejarthths Arxhs, toy Synhgoroy toy Polith. O k. Diamantoyros toy enexeirise thn ekqesh ths Anejarthths Arxhs, meta ton elegxo poy dienerghqhke se diafores dhmosies yphresies. O Prwqypoyrgos epifylaxqhke na melethsei to periexomeno ths. Den exei steilei opoiadhpote epistolh, oson afora to qema ayto. Allwste, prepei na sas pw oti o k. Diamantoyros exei enhmerwsei toys epikefalhs twn organismwn kai toys ypoyrgoys gia qemata poy aforoyn ton tomea enos ekastoy kai gia ta problhmata poy exoyn antimetwpistei se kaqe tomea. Den exei steilei, loipon, o Prwqypoyrgos tetoies epistoles, toylaxiston ews twra poy syzhtoyme. EYSTAQIOY: Se sxesh me to nomosxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs gia to organwmeno egklhma, sth shmerinh syskech emfanisthke ena tetoio prosxedio; Dhladh, egine syzhthsh basei enos prosxedioy h htan mia syzhthsh... REPPAS: O ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs ekane mia poly sygkrothmenh eishghsh gia to qema ayto. Aplws, to periexomeno ths prwtoboylias den exei apotypwqei sth synhqh morfh poy exei ena nomosxedio. Ayto qa ginei tis epomenes hmeres me thn ajiologhsh twn apocewn poy diatypwqhkan shmera. Kata bash, omws, h eishghsh toy k. Staqopoyloy einai ayth h opoia apotelei kai ton kormo toy nomosxedioy poy qa paroysiasei o idios, se liges hmeres. EYSTAQIOY: Epeidh yphrjan sygkekrimenes plhrofories kai dhmosieymata, oi kateyqynthrioi ajones poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos htan oti qa prepei na einai pio "sklhro" to nomosxedio h oti qa prepei na dinetai perissoterh emfash sthn prostasia toy polith; Qa diabasate, fantazomai, ta dhmosieymata. REPPAS: Epeidh gnwrizw ta dhmosieymata, gi` ayto sas kalesa na apofygete th symmetoxh sas se aytes tis syzhthseis, oi opoies exoyn ena ypobaqro poy den antapokrinetai sto periexomeno ayths ths nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias. Syxna symbainei ayto. Sas qymizw oti ton perasmeno Noembrh, ypegrafh sto Palermo h Symbash toy OHE gia ta qemata ayta, ypegracan 150 xwres, metajy twn opoiwn kai h Ellada. To periexomeno ayths ths Symbashs apotelei ena plaisio, enan odhgo gia ryqmiseis basei twn opoiwn prepei na proxwrhsoyme. H prwtoboylia ayth, afora thn prostasia toy polith apenanti sto organwmeno egklhma. Kai gnwrizete oti exoyme ayjhsh ths egklhmatikothtas sthn patrida mas, ta teleytaia xronia. Einai kati poy prepei na to antimetwpisoyme. Einai ena megalo problhma. Apo thn allh, bebaiws, ayto qa pragmatopoihqei sto plaisio ths syntagmatikhs tajhs kai me apolyto sebasmo twn dikaiwmatwn toy polith. Ayto einai kati to opoio den syzhteitai. Einai dedomeno. EYSTAQIOY: Kai ena teleytaio erwthma, se sxesh me ta osa eipe o k. Argyros. Akoysa me megalh prosoxh kai shmeiwsa poly prosektika ta osa eipate. Den qelw na staqw sta episthmonika. To erwthma einai, den prokaleitai, kata kapoio tropo, h koinh gnwmh, otan radiostaqmoi me megalh, th megalyterh akroamatikothta, sth moriodothsh erxontai teleytaioi; REPPAS: H koinh gnwmh asfalws exei apories gia to pws prokyptoyn ayta ta apotelesmata ajiologhsewn. Aytes tis ajiologhseis, omws, tis exoyme anaqesei se sygkekrimena organa, ta opoia den ayqairetoyn. To ESR, me bash to N. 2328 kai ta tessera krithria, ta opoia o nomos aytos rhta anaferei, ajiologhse to synolo twn ypochfiwn na laboyn adeia gia th leitoyrgia radiofwnikoy staqmoy kai proxwrhse sth baqmologhsh -h lejh "moriodothsh" den einai swsth- sygkekrimenwn staqmwn me ton idio ariqmo moriwn. Ayto einai kati poy qelw na sebastoyme. O nomos einai nomos kai prepei na threitai. EYSTAQIOY: Ara, ti qa ginei telika epi toy prokeimenoy; REPPAS: Kaqe poliths exei dikaiwma na prosfygei sta dikasthria, an qewrei oti qigetai h blaptetai h adikeitai. Ta dikasthria exoyn to logo. Sas lew oti to ESR exei labei apofaseis oi opoies fainetai oti einai tekmhriwmenes kai dyskola katarriptontai, meta apo prosfyges poy kata kairoys exoyn katateqei sta dikasthria. Loipon, qa prepei na sebastoyme mia apofash. Ektos an qelete to ESR, gia to opoio tosh syzhthsh ginetai toso kairo, na mhn exei aytes tis ayjhmenes armodiothtes. Kai gnwrizete oti me ton prosfato N.2863/2000 to ESR exei thn apolyth kyriarxia sto pedio twn armodiothtwn, se kyrwtiko kai elegktiko epipedo gia ton optikoakoystiko tomea sthn patrida mas. Den prepei na to sebastoyme ayto; Sas eyxaristw. Greek Government Press Briefings in ASCII Greek Directory - Previous Article - Next Article |