Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-01-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ianoyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai amesws meta to KYSEA. Na sas enhmerwsw prwta gia tis apofaseis poy elabe to KYSEA, oson afora thn epilogh kai topoqethsh Arxhgwn sta dyo Opla.

Sto Geniko Epiteleio Stratoy sth qesh toy aperxomenoy Arxhgoy Strathgoy K. Panagiwtakh, topoqeteitai o Strathgos G. Antwnakopoylos, mexri twra Dioikhths toy 4oy Swmatos Stratoy.

Sto Geniko Epiteleio Naytikoy, sth qesh toy aperxomenoy Arxhgoy Nayarxoy G. Iwannidh, topoqeteitai o Nayarxos G. Qeodwroylakhs, mexri twra Dioikhths Stoloy.

Sto Geniko Epiteleio Aeroporias, paramenei Arxhgos o Pterarxos Dhm. Lintzerakos.

O eishghths ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Tsoxatzopoylos anaferqhke me epainoys sth qhteia twn aperxomenwn Arxhgwn kai sto shmantiko ergo poy epitelesthke kata th diarkeia ths qhteias toys. Anaferqhke, epishs, sthn ajiosynh twn newn Arxhgwn.

To mono qema poy apasxolhse thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph einai to prwto qema ths atzentas poy sas eixe anakoinwqei. To qema, dhladh, poy afora tis synepeies, oi opoies prokaloyntai meta thn polemikh krish sth Gioygkoslabia. Logw pareleyshs xronoy den syzhthsame ta alla dyo qemata.

Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos me dhlwsh poy ekane, amesws meta th synedriash, synocise me safh kai systhmatiko tropo to pneyma kai to periexomeno ths syzhthshs. Fainetai, pleon jekaqara oti h Ellada einai h monh h estw apo tis liges xwres, h opoia sthn polemikh krish, me thn politikh kai diplwmatikh qesh ths, edeije mia allh stash, enan allo tropo gia to pws prepei na antimetwpizontai kai na lynontai tetoia problhmata. Opws tote, etsi kai twra me prwtoboylies se eqniko, alla kai dieqnes epipedo -me gnwmona to eqniko symferon kai kyrio skopo th diafylajh ths ygeias twn stratiwtikwn, alla kai olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn poy breqhkan h briskontai se ayth thn perioxh poy eplhgh apo bombardismoys- deixnei ena neo protypo gia to pws qa prepei na energoyme se aytes tis periptwseis.

To anaferw ayto giati oi metrhseis poy ginontai sthn Ellada einai systhmatikes, se 24wrh bash, ta teleytaia xronia. Exoyn odhghsei se asfalh symperasmata oti den diatrexoyme kanena kindyno. Oi metrhseis poy exoyn ginei sto parelqon kai ginontai twra pio systhmatika stis perioxes ths Gioygkoslabias poy eplhghsan apo bombardismoys, qa mas dwsoyn th dynatothta, otan anakoinwqoyn ta apotelesmata toys, na ejagoyme asfalh symperasmata. Opws sas eipa kai xqes, ta prwta apotelesmata aytwn twn metrhsewn einai kaqhsyxastika. Emeis, me kaqe tropo, sto plaisio toy OHE, ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai toy NATO qa qetoyme to qema, prokeimenoy na doqoyn ta plhrh stoixeia, poy aforoyn thn katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke sth Gioygkoslabia meta toys bombardismoys. Exoyme parallhla labei ola ta endeiknyomena metra kai qa klimakwsoyme tis energeies mas pros thn kateyqynsh ayth, prokeimenoy na diafylajoyme thn ygeia twn politwn sthn Ellada kai thn perioxh ayth. Einai poly shmantikh h doyleia poy kanoyn oi episthmones ths Epitrophs Atomikhs Energeias. Sthn Epitroph ayth shmeiwnw oti pera apo to ``DHMOKRITO'' symmetexoyn kai ta alla Ereynhtika Kentra kai Institoyta poy drasthriopoioyntai sthn Ellada, se ayto ton episthmoniko tomea. Ayth einai mia antiproswpeytikh Epitroph, me kaqolikh symmetoxh episthmonwn. Ta apotelesmata, loipon, twn metrhsewn kai symperasmatwn ths qa einai odhgos gia tis parapera energeies mas.

Epishs, anamenoyme me endiaferon -toso h dieqnhs koinothta, oso ki emeis- ta porismata mias megalhs ereynas poy dienergei h UNER toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Ta porismata ths ereynas ayths qa gnwstopoihqoyn ton erxomeno Martio kai qa aforoyn ayto akribws to qema: Thn epibarynsh anqrwpwn kai periballontos sth Gioygkoslabia meta toys bombardismoys me th xrhsimopoihsh pyromaxikwn apemploytismenoy oyranioy.

Antilambaneste oti h syzhthsh se politiko, alla kai episthmoniko epipedo synexizetai toso sto eswteriko ths xwras, oso kai dieqnws. Apofasisthke gia to skopo ayto na sygkrothqei diypoyrgikh omada gia thn parakoloyqhsh kai to xeirismo toy qematos. Qa exei mia monimh taktikh leitoyrgia, prokeimenoy na eimaste pantote epikairoi, oson afora th gnwsh twn pragmatikwn dedomenwn kai thn analhch twn epiballomenwn energeiwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Se oti afora, me aformh th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o opoios anefere oti h Ellada exei parei oles tis prwtoboylies kai zhtaei ola ta stoixeia, apo to NATO kai thn E.E., prokeimenoy na jekaqarisei to topio, me poies sygkekrimenes energeies to zhthse o Prwqypoyrgos; Dhladh, zhthsame th sygklhsh, ektaktws, Symboylioy ths E.E.;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, prwta apo ola, ekane mia protash poy exei @qa elega- dieqnes endiaferon. Eipe oti h Ellada eqese to qema, kai epanerxetai se ayto to qema me entash, anastolhs ths xrhshs pyromaxikwn apemploytismenoy oyranioy. Einai mia protash poy kanei h xwra mas, prokeimenoy na prolaboyme opoiondhpote endexomeno kindyno apo th xrhsh aytwn twn pyromaxikwn. H Ellada, apo koinoy me thn Italia kai en synexeia me thn yposthrijh ths Germanias, exei qesei to qema gia ayto to kaloymeno moratorium sto plaisio toy NATO. H Ellada me to Belgio apeyqynqhkan sth soyhdikh Proedria kai eqesan to qema kai sthn E.E.. Kai, bebaiws, toso o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas me epistoles poy exei aposteilei ston G.G. toy NATO kai to Soyhdo omologo toy, oso kai to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn me tis anafores poy exei kanei ston Mr. KEPPA sthn Komission, sta organa ths E.E., deixnoyn oti to qema ayto mas apasxolei idiaiterws. Epiqymoyme h dieqnhs koinothta, o OHE, h E.E. kai to NATO na asxolhqoyn systhmatika, na ereynhsoyn kai na melethsoyn ta porismata aytwn twn ereynwn me organa antiproswpeytika, episthmonika, organa kyroys, dieqnws ajiopista, etsi wste na exoyme asfalh symperasmata gia na analaboyme en synexeia thn aparaithth drash.

MIXAHL: H deyterh erwthsh moy gennhqhke apo mia frash sas, oti ta prwta apotelesmata twn metrhsewn einai kaqhsyxastika. Den anhsyxeite apo thn, tyxon, kritikh poy mporei na sas askhqei oti prokatalambanete ta porismata twn episthmonwn otan -akomh ki an ta pragmata einai opws ta lete- biazeste na ta anakoinwsete;

REPPAS: Milhsame gi ayto xqes kai anaferame ta apotelesmata metrhsewn ston aera kai to edafos poy ekanan oi episthmones poy symmetexoyn sthn apostolh ths Ellhnikhs Epitrophs Atomikhs Energeias, ypo ton k. Kamarinopoylo, sthn perioxh ths Pristinas kai sygkekrimena sto Polie, ekei opoy stratopedeyei h 34h Mhxanokinhth Ellhnikh Tajiarxia. Ta apotelesmata twn metrhsewn aytwn einai apolytws arnhtika, dhladh einai kala, kaqhsyxastika. Otan oloklhrwqoyn aytes oi metrhseis, oi episthmones, twn opoiwn to episthmoniko hqos den mporei na amfisbhthqei, qa anakoinwsoyn ta apotelesmata ayta kai oloi tote qa exete th dynatothta na qesete erwthmata. Emeis, tis politikes epiloges mas tis kanoyme me sygkekrimena stoixeia kai oxi me bash dojasies, alla bebaiws eimaste idiaitera aysthroi kai apaithtikoi apenanti stoys dieqneis organismoys kai idiaiterws sto NATO, gia thn anagkh na mas dwsoyn oles tis dynates plhrofories, ta plhrh dhladh stoixeia poy synqetoyn thn pragmatikothta poy dhmioyrghqhke meta toys bombardismoys sth Gioygkoslabia.

KARAKWSTAS: Se oti afora th lhch sygkekrimenwn metrwn gia toys foithtes kai toys stratiwtes, qa perimenoyme ta apotelesmata twn meletwn poy diejagei h UNEP h ayta twn Ellhnwn episthmonwn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h UNEP kanei th dikh ths ereyna. H Ellhnikh Epitroph Atomikhs Energeias jekinhse apo proxqes tis dikes ths metrhseis. Ta metra ta opoia lambanei h kybernhsh, anaferontai oxi mono sto stratiwtiko plhqysmo, alla se oloys toys Ellhnes polites poy zoyn ekei. Bebaiws, o praktikos tropos, dhladh to pws qa organwqei aytoy toy eidoys h ejetash, einai ena qema to opoio antimetwpizoyme.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, oi Ellhnikes Enoples Dynameis perimenoyn, apo edw kai pera, ylika poy na periexoyn radienerga stoixeia;

REPPAS: Oxi. Gnwrizete poly kala oti emeis eimaste ekeinoi poy qesame qema sto NATO na anastalei h xrhsh tetoiwn pyromaxikwn. Den einai dynato na probainoyme, thn idia stigmh, se epilogh tetoiwn systhmatwn.

SOYRMELIDHS: Epishs, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean mazi me ta stoixeia poy zhtame apo to NATO gia th Gioygkoslabia, zhtame kai stoixeia gia to ti exei ginei ston Kolpo kai an yparxoyn epiptwseis se Ellhnes poy htan ekei.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizoyme na exoyn ekdhlwqei asqeneies ayths ths kathgorias, meta thn krish ston Kolpo se Ellhnes polites. Miloyme gia kroysmata leyxaimias, leykopenias, gia to legomeno syndromo ths xronias mysthriwdoys kopwshs. Miloyme gia agnwstes, kainoyrgies asqeneies. Allazei, mporei na pei kaneis, o epidhmiologikos xarths, meta apo tetoies polemikes syrrajeis. Den exoyme, meta thn krish ston Kolpo, kapoia stoixeia poy na deixnoyn oti exei epibarynqei h ygeia Ellhnwn politwn.

Sas ypenqymizw oti, thn Trith (16/01), qa episkefqei thn Ellada -to exw, hdh, anakoinwsei- o Proedros ths Gioygkoslabias k. Kostoynitsa. Antilambaneste oti h episkech ayth qa exei poly endiaferon, metajy twn allwn, kai gia to qema ayto, giati qa akoysoyme kai ta stoixeia poy diaqetei h gioygkoslabikh kybernhsh.

KAPPOS: Qewreite oti h kybernhsh brisketai entos toy neoy protypoy stashs gia to opoio milhsate prohgoymenws, otan enhmerwnei gia ola ayta ta qemata, efoson exoyn prohghqei gegonota, apokalyceis apo pleyras prwhn anwtatwn stelexwn toy stratoy, opws o prwhn Arxhgos GEEQA, se sxesh me ti opla xrhsimopoihse o ellhnikos stratos...

REPPAS: Akoyste, giati yparxei mia paranohsh. Ta pyromaxika me apemploytismeno oyranio, ta opoia gia ekpaideytikoys skopoys xrhsimopoihse mexri to 1995 to Polemiko Naytiko, den einai ayta ta opoia xrhsimopoihqhkan kata toys bombardismoys sth Gioygkoslabia. Einai diaforetiko to diametrhma. Den exoyn sxesh, para to oti, bebaiws, kai ta blhmata ayta poy xrhsimopoihqhkan sth xwra mas gia ekpaideytikoys skopoys, perieixan kai apemploytismeno oyranio. Alla, den einai ayta poy xrhsimopoihqhkan stoys bombardismoys sth Gioygkoslabia. Oi synepeies apo th xrhsimopoihsh tetoiwn pyromaxikwn, einai alhqeia oti den htan gnwstes, otan arxisan na xrhsimopoioyntai. Alla kai shmera, poy h meleth twn synepeiwn apo th xrhsh tetoiwn systhmatwn brisketai sthn prwth grammh endiaferontos, oydeis pali, meta apo metrhseis poy exoyn dienerghqei, mporei me kathgorhmatiko tropo na diatypwsei telikh kai adiamfisbhthth qesh. Apotelei kai ayto antikeimeno syzhthshs kai ereynas.

Ayto poy qelw na sas ypenqymisw einai oti h Ellada htan h monh xwra toy NATO poy den esteile xersaia tmhmata ths se ayth thn epixeirhsh kai den elabe meros stoys bombardismoys. Apeixame apo ayth th stratiwtikh epixeirhsh. Breqhkame se ayth thn perioxh sto plaisio mias eirhneytikhs apostolhs, gia na symbaloyme sth staqerothta kai thn eirhnh. Giati, pisteyoyme oti h paroysia ths eirhneytikhs apostolhs sth Gioygkoslabia, se diafores perioxes epaije kai paizei kaqoristiko rolo gia na exoyme omales ejelijeis sthn perioxh. Ena antiqeto endexomeno einai bebaio oti qa epefere arnhtika apotelesmata gia tis ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia. Isws, qa odhgoyse sto na parameinei h perioxh ayth se mia diarkh astaqeia. Einai poly shmantikh h paroysia twn dynamewn ekei, sto plaisio ayths ths eirhneytikhs apostolhs. Alla, bebaiws, einai to idio h kai perissotero shmantiko na paroyme ola ta metra, opws to kaname gia prolhptikoys logoys sto parelqon kai twra, meta tis nees syzhthseis poy ginontai gia to qema, etsi wste na diasfalisoyme thn ygeia twn anqrwpwn.

KAPPOS: Anarwtiemai giati qa prepei na yparxei, shmera, h dhlwsh sas oti oi synepeies apo th xrhsimopoihsh tetoiwn pyromaxikwn den eixan melethqei, otan epetai h kataggelia toy prwhn Arxhgoy GEEQA oti h Mesogeios einai kataboqra pyrhnikwn apoblhtwn kai tojikwn oysiwn.

REPPAS: Pote egine ayth h dhlwsh;

KAPPOS: Egine, shmera, ston PLANET.

REPPAS: Eseis, loipon, pote qewreite oti eprepe na kanei th dhlwsh o prwhn Arxhgos GEEQA kai pote eprepe na paroyme sygkekrimena metra, afoy qewreite dedomeno oti gnwrizame pws exoyn ta pragmata; H syzhthsh ayth ginetai shmera. Makari na eixe ginei to 1990. Sas eipa oti ayta ta blhmata xrhsimopoihqhkan gia ekpaideytikoys skopoys sto Naytiko mexri to @95. Apo ekei kai pera, xrhsimopoioyntai blhmata bolframioy kai oxi apemploytismenoy oyranioy. Ara, den yparxei allo qema. Ayto einai to apotelesma elegxwn poy eginan. Symfwnw mazi sas oti ayth h syzhthsh poy ginetai shmera, qa eprepe na eixe ginei prin polla xronia.

KAPPOS: En toiayth periptwsei, prokyptei ena elleimma enhmerwshs ths politikhs apo th stratiwtikh hgesia.

REPPAS: Qa elega oti prokyptei ena elleimma enhmerwshs kai apotelesmatikhs antidrashs sto synolo ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas. Shmera, syzhtoyme gia tis synepeies bombardismwn h enos polemoy poy egine liga xronia prin -kai anaferomai sth Bosnia- h miloyme gia tis synepeies sto anqrwpino eidos twn syrrajewn ston Kolpo, enw exei mesolabhsei peripoy mia dekaetia. Makari, ola ayta na mporoyme na ta syzhtoyme egkairws. Aytoi oi opoioi diaqetoyn ta stoixeia, exoyn megalh eyqynh apenanti sthn anqrwpothta. H ellhnikh kybernhsh toys kalei na dwsoyn opoiadhpote stoixeia exoyn sth diaqesh toys, prokeimenoy h koinh gnwmh, oi kybernhseis na gnwrizoyn ti einai ayto to opoio synqetei thn pragmatikothta gia na paroyme analoga metra.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: H epilogh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia paramonh twn ellhnikwn dynamewn sthn perioxh toy Kossoboy -opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, einai epibeblhmenh- einai aposyndedemenh apo endexomena arnhtika h mh epiqymhta oristika apotelesmata twn episthmonikwn omadwn, opote ayta ki an ginoyn;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos milhse me safhneia kai egw shmera, oso ginetai pio synoptika, epanelaba toys logoys gia toys opoioys oi stratiwtikes dynameis ths xwras mas briskontai sto plaisio ths eirhneytikhs apostolhs sth Gioygkoslabia. Asfalws, den qa aposyndesoyme thn tyxh kai thn prooptikh twn ellhnikwn stratiwtikwn dynamewn sth Gioygkoslabia apo ta apotelesmata twn ereynwn poy eginan, ginontai kai qa ginoyn. Einai apolyta synarthmena ayta ta dyo stoixeia poy mas apasxoloyn ejisoy. Kai h eirhnh, h staqerothta kai h asfaleia sthn perioxh poy pisteyoyme oti epitygxanetai me thn paroysia twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn ayths ths eirhneytikhs apostolhs, alla kai bebaiws, h diasfalish ths ygeias twn stratiwtwn kai synolika twn politwn apenanti se tetoioy eidoys problhmata, ta opoia prokyptoyn meta apo th xrhsh tetoiwn pyromaxikwn ylikwn.

I.XASAPOPOYLOS: Gia tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy sthn koinoboyleytikh Epitroph Ejwterikhs Politikhs kai Amynas, eiste enhmeros gi ayta poy eipe, pws efyge apo thn kybernhsh kai pws anoije to qema toy Otsalan, oti metefere ena sxedio Milosebits gia eirhneysh...

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, den gnwrizw to periexomeno ths syzhthshs poy egine se mia koinoboyleytikh Epitroph. Asfalws, gnwrizw ayta poy apodidontai ston k. Pagkalo. Ayta ta opoia anaferei apoteloyn -mporei na pei kaneis- istorikes martyries, oi opoies kalo einai na melethqoyn. Apo kei kai pera, gia ta qemata ths trexoysas politikhs, ekfrazei tis apoceis toy, opws ola ta stelexh, oloi oi boyleytes. Exw th gnwmh, omws, oti ayto poy exei shmasia einai na doyme thn politikh sto mellon, thn poreia poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyme, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme stoys epiqymhtoys stoxoys mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos gnwrize ti syzhthqhke;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den einai dynaton na gnwrizei ti syzhthqhke xqes sthn Epitroph. Opws den gnwrizoyme ki emeis. Eseis qewreite dedomeno oti einai etsi, opws to qetete sthn erwthsh sas, ayto to opoio eipe o k. Pagkalos h ayta ta opoia eipan alla stelexh kai qelete na kanoyme syzhthsh panw se ayto.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos eixe enhmerwsei gia olo ayto to paraskhnio me thn ka Olmprait;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn eswterikes diadikasies se kaqe kybernhsh. Yparxei o tropos me ton opoio o Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai, sto plaisio ths kybernhshs, me toys ypoyrgos, opws kai oi ypoyrgoi metajy toys. Ola ayta ta qemata antimetwpizontai sto plaisio ayths ths synergasias. Den mporei na apoteloyn antikeimeno dhmosias syzhthshs. Apo kei kai pera epanalambanw oti oydeis -oyte egw, oyte kapoios tritos- einai dynato na gnwrizei gia kaqe qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eipate oti einai istorikes martyries.

REPPAS: Mporei na einai istorikes martyries. Einai mia istorikh kataqesh. Mia paraqesh stoixeiwn ta opoia asfalws katagrafontai.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa to ereynhsei kaneis ean einai alhqeia;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti shmasia exei na epityxoyme toys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei gia to mellon. Pisteyw oti yparxei mia mnhmeiwdhs frash toy Gewrgioy Papandreoy: ``To parelqon na to paradwsoyme stoys istorikoys kai thn Ellada sto mellon''. Oi politikoi qa prepei na asxolhqoyn me to mellon ths xwras. Me to parelqon na asxolhqoyn oi istorikoi.

SOYRMELIDHS: Pisteyete oti yparxoyn ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs poy exoyn ``kabalhsei to kalami'';

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei nwph th laikh entolh kai oi ypoyrgoi exoyn synaisqhsh ths ypoxrewshs na antapokriqoyn sthn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy. Otan exeis synaisqhsh ths ypoxrewshs soy den mporei -kaqe allo malista- na kathgoreisai oti eisai alazwn, kata to laikws legomeno oti ``exeis kabalhsei to kalami''. Den einai h periptwsh mas ayth. Nomizw oti to exoyme apofygei, toylaxiston, mexri twra.

Sas eyxaristw.

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