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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Qema syzhthshs h politikh ths xwras gia ta Balkania. Epishmanqhke h megalh istorikh shmasia ths teleytaias ejelijhs sth Gioygkoslabia, poy dhmioyrgei pleon tis proypoqeseis gia mia askhsh politikhs sthn perioxh ayth, me xarakthristika synolikhs politikhs, afoy payei na yfistatai h legomenh "mayrh trypa" ths Gioygkoslabias sto swma twn Balkaniwn. H perioxh ayth exei twra kalyteres proypoqeseis, prokeimenoy na petyxei thn politikh kai qesmikh anasyntajh, kaqws kai thn oikonomikh anaptyjh kai proodo. Emeis ekfrazoyme kai pali ikanopoihsh. H politikh arxwn poy akoloyqhse h ellhnikh kybernhsh sth gioygkoslabikh krish apedwse karpoys pros ofelos toy gioygkoslabikoy laoy, alla kai olwn twn geitonikwn lawn. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata ths neas periodoy, sthn opoia exei mpei kai h Gioygkoslabia. Exoyme kainoyrgies ypoxrewseis. Qa antapokriqoyme se aytes ws xwra. Hdh, h gallikh Proedria exei ejaggeilei mia diaskech sto Zagkremp, stis 24 Noembrioy, opoy qa synanthqei h E.E. me tis xwres twn legomenwn dytikwn Balkaniwn, ektos dhladh Boylgarias kai Roymanias.

Einai xarakthristiko oti h gallikh Proedria, gia thn proetoimasia ayths ths diaskechs, exei aposteilei mono sthn Ellada omada ergasias, prokeimenoy me tis gnwseis kai thn empeiria poy exei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, idiaiterws to YPEJ, na symballoyn sthn kalyterh proetoimasia ayths ths diaskechs.

H katastash sth Gioygkoslabia, meta th dhmokratikh allagh, exei apokthsei mia qetikh dynamikh. Asfalws, omws, den exoyn leicei ta problhmata. Yparxoyn qemata poy prepei na antimetwpistoyn kai malista se ena orato xroniko orizonta. Qemata ta opoia, epi polla xronia, paramenoyn se ekkremothta, logw toy oti h zwh sto eswteriko ths Gioygkoslabias den afhne eykairies, den edine diejodoys gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn aytwn. Kai bebaiws, dhmioyrgoyntai nees synqhkes gia qemata ta opoia yphrjan sto parelqon h aitia kai h aformh gia megales kriseis, opws einai to qema toy Kossyfopedioy. Kapoies dynameis, me thn hgesia Milosebits sth Gioygkoslabia, prowqoysan akomh thn politikh aposxishs toy Kossyfopedioy apo th Gioygkoslabia. Shmera yparxei mia diaforetikh proseggish. Th qesh poy eixe ekfrasei apo tote h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia thn aytonomia toy Kossyfopedioy, pantote sto plaisio ths gioygkoslabikhs omospondias, aspazontai, pleon, olo kai perissoteroi kai fainetai oti einai mia qesh poy epikratei. Epishs kai oi alles balkanikes xwres, meta tis ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia, antilambanontai pws h politikh ths E.E., twn HPA, twn megalwn dieqnwn organismwn -prwtoboylies poy, metajy twn allwn, perilambanoyn kai xrhmatodothseis sta balkanika krath- den mporei pleon na agnooyn th nea pragmatikothta. Prepei na symperilambanoyn kai th Gioygkoslabia, pragma to opoio shmainei oti tiqetai pia se mia nea bash h politikh ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas gia ta Balkania se oloys toys tomeis.

Ektimhqhke apo oloys oti o neos hgeths ths Gioygkoslabias einai enas empeiros, synetos politikos. Gnwrizei poly kala th shmasia poy exei h xwra toy gia tis ejelijeis sthn eyryterh perioxh. Gnwrizei poly kala poies einai oi energeies poy prepei na kanei, prokeimenoy na odhghsei th Gioygkoslabia sth megalh eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Kai gnwrizei poly kala oti, enw qa to epixeirei ayto, qa prepei na antimetwpisei kai ta problhmata sto eswteriko ths xwras toy, ta opoia mporei na apoteloyn mia diarkh phgh astaqeias kai reystothtas.

Oson afora thn politikh mas sta Balkania, yparxoyn bebaiws prwtoboylies toy ellhnikoy kratoys. Otan miloyme, omws, kai gia thn ejwterikh oikonomikh politikh, antilambaneste pws ena megalo kommati afora kyriws toys epixeirhmaties, toys idiwtikoys foreis. Epishmanqhke oti exoyn ginei poly shmantikes energeies kai draseis, apo thn pleyra ths Elladas. O syntonismos einai poly kalyteros, se sxesh me to parelqon, metajy twn forewn toy ellhnikoy kratoys poy, me prwtoboylies toys, prowqoyn diafora programmata sta geitonika balkanika krath. Alla, bebaiws, qa prepei na beltiwsoyme akomh perissotero th synergasia metajy twn forewn toy ellhnikoy kratoys, poy einai arketes dekades, wste h synergasia ayth na einai apolyth kai h prospaqeia poy kanoyme na eimaste parontes sta Balkania, na exei thn analogh ajiopoihsh ths kai stoys alloys tomeis. Na bohqhsei, dhladh, toys geitonikoys laoys na petyxoyn kalyteres synqhkes zwhs kai na symballei etsi, telika, sthn peraiterw sysfijh twn sxesewn metajy ths Elladas kai twn geitonikwn kratwn.

Gnwrizete poly kala oti htan ellhnikh protash h dhmioyrgia toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas, to opoio edreyei ws yphresia, me sygkekrimenh dioikhtikh domh kai stelexwsh, sth Qessalonikh. Symmetexoyme sto Symfwno Staqerothtas -qa epanelqw argotera se ayto anaferontas kai stoixeia- opws kai alles xwres ths E.E kai oxi mono. Sto plaisio toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas, h Ellada exei ektamieysei, exei desmeysei ena poso 7,5 dis. draxmwn gia th leitoyrgia toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas kai gia tis prwtes parembaseis toy, prokeimenoy na epityxei toys skopoys gia toys opoioys idryqhke.

Yparxei ena allo programma poly shmantiko, to opoio afora thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. Kat` epanalhch exoyme milhsei gia ton Organismo Anasygkrothshs twn Balkaniwn. H Ellada exei desmeyqei gia th xrhmatodothsh toy programmatos aytoy me ena poly shmantiko poso poy fqanei ta 180 dis. draxmes. Exoyme milhsei gi` ayto epaneilhmmenws. Se orizonta 5etias, h Ellada einai etoimh na ekplhrwsei ayth th desmeysh poy exei analabei, prokeimenoy na bohqhsoyme toys geitonikoys laoys na anasyntaxqoyn kai na proodeysoyn.

Oi tomeis stoys opoioys egine idiaiterh anafora, me paradeigmata apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys poy milhsan kai oi opoioi exoyn ena probadisma, mia proteraiothta kata thn askhsh ths politikhs mas gia ta Balkania, einai oi ypodomes, h energeia, oi metafores, oi epikoinwnies, o toyrismos kai h gewrgia. Kai bebaiws, oloi anaferqhkan ston idiaitero rolo poy mporei na diadramatisei h ekpaideysh h h dhmioyrgia qesmwn ekpaideyshs, wste h Ellada na ginei h xwra, to kentro poy qa ekpaideyontai, stis diafores baqmides, neoi apo tis balkanikes xwres h stelexh twn geitonikwn kratwn me o,ti ayto synepagetai gia thn peraiterw sysfijh twn sxesewn twn xwrwn.

Oson afora thn paroysia ths Elladas sthn perioxh, gnwrizete oti exei apeyqynqei prosklhsh ston k. Kostoynitsa na episkefqei thn Ellada, to syntomotero dynato. Exei apanthsei qetika, den exei oristei akomh h hmeromhnia. Thn epomenh periodo, peri ta mesa Noembrioy, problepontai episkeceis sto Beligradi twn Ellhnwn ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas, Eqnikhs Oikonomias -nomizw oti h episkech toy k. Papantwnioy exei programmatistei gia tis 13 kai 14 Noembrioy- kai Dhmosias Tajhs.

Ta "ergaleia" ta opoia -kai qelw na to anaferw ayto, wste na einai katagegrammena, na ta gnwrizete ki eseis- xrhsimopoioyme, exoyme sth diaqesh mas gia thn askhsh ayths ths politikhs, einai:

O Ellhnikos Organismos Ejwterikoy Emporioy, poy prowqei tis ejagwges.

O Organismos Diasfalishs Ejagwgwn kai Pistwsewn.

To Ellhniko Kentro Ependysewn poy parexei plhroforhsh se osoys endiaferontai na kanoyn ependyseis stis geitonikes xwres.

To Diabalkaniko Epixeirhmatiko Kentro poy leitoyrgei sth Qessalonikh.

H anaptyjiakh bohqeia h opoia prosferetai gia anqrwpistikoys kai koinwnikoys logoys.

Diafores pistwtikes dieykolynseis poy prosferontai stis kybernhseis twn geitonikwn xwrwn.

Einai, bebaiws, ta grafeia twn emporikwn kai oikonomikwn symboylwn.

Kai telos, einai ta dieqnh, kyriws eyrwpaika, programmata, ta opoia prowqei ws mesolabhths h Ellada, opws einai to FAR, to INTEREG kai h symmetoxh mas se diaforoys Organismoys, opws einai h synergasia SEKI, o OSEP, to Symfwno Staqerothtas gia to opoio sas milhsa kai prin.

Se sxesh me ton Organismo Anasygkrothshs, sas eipa oti se mia 5etia exoyme desmeyqei na prosferoyme ena poso 180 dis. draxmwn. Meta th nea ayth pragmatikothta, 95 dis. draxmes aforoyn th Gioygkoslabia kai to Kossyfopedio. Exoyn ginei shmantikes draseis, sto plaisio aytoy toy programmatos. Dhladh, sygkekrimena erga, opws staqmoi metaforas hlektrikhs energeias -fer` eipein, sthn Korytsa, gia na anaferw ena paradeigma- kai alla tetoioy epipedoy erga. To programma ayto, afoy oloklhrwqei h proetoimasia ths dioikhshs, jekina, sto synolo toy, thn erxomenh anoijh, Martio-Aprilio toy 2001. Oi proteraiothtes poy qetoyme emeis aforoyn:

Thn koinwnikh ypodomh, dhladh erga stoys tomeis ths ygeias, ths paideias, ths stegashs.

Thn oikonomikh ypodomh, dhladh tis metafores kai tis epikoinwnies.

Kai toys tomeis paragwghs, opws einai h biomhxania, ta emporika diktya kai o politismos.

Exoyme synergasia, ta teleytaia xronia, me tis geitonikes xwres gia ton eksygxronismo twn qesmwn toys. Ena terastio qema poy exei dhmioyrghqei, afora akribws thn adynamia twn yphresiwn twn geitonikwn xwrwn na ajiopoihsoyn kondylia poy einai sth diaqesh toys. Aytos o eksygxronismos me th dikh mas bohqeia, th gnwsh poy exoyme apokomisei ws xwra ths E.E. edw kai arketa xronia, einai aparaithtos. Mporei na dei kaneis to programma ayto ws ena analogo toy Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs poy parexetai apo thn E.E. pros thn Ellada. Qeloyme, dhladh, oi draseis oi opoies qa xrhmatodotoyntai mesw aytoy toy programmatos, na aforoyn tomeis gia toys opoioys kai emeis exoyme gnwmh. Den einai dynato, dhladh, diafores draseis na ginontai se perioxes poly makria apo ta synora mas, na mhn eggizoyn, estw kai emmesws, drasthriothtes poy qa symballoyn etsi sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths dikhs mas xwras kai se peraiterw beltiwsh ths synergasias twn topikwn plhqysmwn, enqen kakeiqen twn synorwn.

Kleinontas qelw na prosqesw mono, oti h Qessalonikh, poy epiqymoyme na anadeixqei ws oysiastikh prwteyoysa twn Balkaniwn ayth th nea periodo, ws edra toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas, apokta enan epiprosqeta barynonta rolo, meta th ejelijh ayth sth Gioygkoslabia. To Ypoyrgeio Makedonias-Qrakhs analambanei ena syntonistiko rolo. Dhmioyrgeitai sto plaisio toy h analogh dioikhtikh ypodomh, prokeimenoy na yposthrixqoyn oi draseis poy analambanoyn foreis toy ellhnikoy kratoys me orizonta ta Balkania. Pisteyoyme oti h qesh ths Elladas sta Balkania, apo apoch politikhs paroysias, alla kai apoch oikonomikhs paroysias megalwn epixeirhsewn toy ellhnikoy kratoys h kai idiwtwn epixeirhmatiwn, einai shmantikh. Den epiqymoyme h paroysia ayth na eklambanetai ws ena eidos prospaqeias apo meroys mas na askhsoyme epirroh, na dieisdysoyme stis geitonikes xwres. Kanoyme -opws eipa sthn arxh kai etsi kleinw- politikh arxwn. Qeloyme oles oi kybernhseis na akoloyqoyn politikh arxwn, giati etsi mporoyme na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ta koina problhmata.

H politikh, loipon, poy akoloyqoyme exei ayto kai mono to stoxo: Na anasyntaxqoyn ta Balkania, na anaptyxqoyn kai na proodeysoyn oloi oi balkanikoi laoi.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Paraithqhke allos enas eksygxronisths, prwhn Proedros toy OPAP, o k. Saleles, poy eixe emplakei to onoma toy se mia apo tis istories BINTEOLOTO. Eseis tote ton eixate kalycei, ti exete na peite shmera;

REPPAS: Se mia dhmokratia h epaggelmatikh eleyqeria einai sebasth, kaqenas exei thn eyqynh twn epilogwn toy. Orismenes epaggelmatikes epiloges prepei na ginontai, pairnontas pantote ypoch kai thn eyaisqhsia poy yparxei, gia ton tropo me ton opoio dhmosia proswpa energoyn h entassontai sto plaisio ths epaggelmatikhs drasthriothtas poy askoyn. Den einai stelexos toy PASOK, epeleje na apomakrynqei apo to stibo ths politikhs, na entaxqei sto stibo twn epaggelmatikwn drasthriothtwn me mia allh idiothta. O idios analambanei thn eyqynh twn epilogwn toy. Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo. Ean yparxei kati to opoio mporei na apotelesei stoixeio gia kathgoria na anaferqei. Alla etsi genikws den einai dynato na miloyme, giati den kanoyme tipota allo para na synthroyme ena noshro klima, xwris na yparxoyn ta stoixeia ekeina poy dikaiologoyn tetoioy eidoys kritikh. Alla, ayto prepei na ginetai me tetoio tropo poy na deixnei oti h koinwnia mas einai dhmokratikh kai oi polites exoyn eyaisqhsia gia to pws krinoyn tis epiloges poy kaqenas mas kanei. An yparxei kati poy einai peran aytoy, mporei na anaferqei, alla prepei na stoixeioqethqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Saleles htan stelexos toy PASOK, proedros toy OPAP kai kapote mas eixate ferei ena pako apanthseis toy k. Salele@

REPPAS: An exete na peite kati allo gi ayto to qema parakalw na to anaferete. Sas eipa oti htan pragmati epikefalhs se enan organismo. H Kybernhsh mas kriqhke stis prosfates ekloges. Ayto sas diafeygei monimws. Apo kei kai pera, meta tis ekloges, den exei kratiko ajiwma. Epeleje ayth thn epaggelmatikh drasthriothta kai krinetai gia thn epilogh toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H dikastikh ereyna gia ekeina poy eixe kanei synexizetai k. Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Ti sxesh exei to ena me to allo; H dikastikh ereyna einai aytonomh. Emeis epiqymoyme na lamcei h alhqeia gia ola ayta ta qemata. To exoyme pei kat epanalhch. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme kai tipota den fobomaste. Alla diafwnoyme me ton tropo poy eseis qetete to qema.

MIXAHL: Alhqeyoyn ta dhmosieymata oti o k. Saleles odhghqhke se paraithsh katopin ypodeijews toy k. Shmith;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin kai oi apanthseis poy edwsa htan safeis. Eipa oti ayta ta qemata prepei na antimetwpizontai me idiaiterh eyaisqhsia, giati oi polites, idiaiterws ayth thn periodo, mas krinoyn aysthra.

MIXAHL: Ti kainoyrgio yparxei gia to qema twn Skopiwn;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tipota kainoyrgio.

MIXAHL: Kai pws, loipon, qa efarmosete th balkanikh politikh poy shmera lete otan paramenei ayto to ``agkaqi'' kai gia tis dyo pleyres, oson afora thn plhrh ejomalynsh twn sxesewn;

REPPAS: Yparxei h ekkremothta oson afora thn onomasia toy geitonikoy kratoys. Ayto, omws, den exei apotelesei anyperblhto empodio, wste na mhn ejelixqoyn omala oi politikes, oikonomikes kai emporikes sxeseis metajy twn dyo kratwn. Exoyme petyxei pragmatika na anabaqmisoyme tis sxeseis mas. To qema ths onomasias antimetwpizetai sto plaisio toy OHE. O Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos synanthse ton Proedro ths FYROM, sto plaisio ths Genikhs Syneleyshs toy OHE, prosfata sth Nea Yorkh kai h qesh poy ekfrasthke apo thn pleyra mas htan safhs. Qa prepei na anazhthqei onomasia, h opoia qa einai mia, qa einai eniaia gia kaqe xrhsh, wste etsi na kleisei kai ayto to qema to opoio, mporei na pei kaneis, apotelei enan paragonta poy dhmioyrgei dysxereia, oxi pantws anyperblhta problhmata, sthn anaptyjh twn sxesewn twn dyo kratwn.

MIXAHL: Akoma kai an ayth h onomasia einai eniaia kai qa xrhsimopoieitai@

REPPAS: Paramenoyme stis qeseis poy exoyme pei. To qema ayto syzhteitai sto plaisio toy OHE. Den yparxei opoiadhpote ejelijh, epeidh oi dyo xwres den exoyn metakinhqei apo thn arxikh qesh.

KOYIN: Qa hqela, prwton, na rwthsw ean symmerizetai h kybernhsh th dhlwsh toy k. Laliwth oti h DOE den xreiazetai na stelnei telesigrafa. Kai, deyteron, mhpws jerete ti ginetai me thn Paraolympiada ths Aqhnas, giati h dieqnhs Paraolympiakh Epitroph apeilei na mh dwsei th shmaia sthn Aqhna, epeidh den exei ypogracei akomh kai einai ena qema poy ekkremei apo to kalokairi.

REPPAS: O Proedros ths Dieqnoys Omospondias twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn exei klhqei sthn Aqhna, meta thn oloklhrwsh twn ekdhlwsewn ths Olympiadas sto Sidnei. Pisteyoyme oti, opws problepetai, oi Paraolympiakoi Agwnes qa ginoyn kanonika sthn Aqhna. Oi dhlwseis poy eginan kai oi apanthseis poy edwse h ellhnikh kybernhsh me eggrafo poy apesteile ston k. Stengoyornt apotelesan thn aformh gia na syzhthsoyme pali to qema ths proetoimasias ths xwras gia toys epomenoys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Sas diabebaiwnw oti h proetoimasia ths xwras mas ejelissetai kanonika. Eimaste xronika epikairoi. Etoimazomaste gia na organwsoyme toys kalyteroys Olympiakoys Agwnes to 2004. Den qa epibaloyme periorismoys stis dhlwseis poy kanoyn oi dieqneis aqlhtikoi paragontes. Ayto poy exoyme na poyme einai oti exoyme katalhjei sta organa, sta proswpa, sto montelo poy efarmozetai kata th fash proetoimasias ths xwras mas. Epiqymoyme oloi oi foreis toy ellhnikoy kratoys -giati opws eipame h Olympiada toy 2004 einai eqnikh ypoqesh kai afora oloys mas- na synergastoyn gia na exoyme to kalytero dynato apotelesma. Nomizw oti oso perna o kairos kai pairnei sygkekrimeno sxhma, sarka kai osta, morfopoieitai h proetoimasia ths xwras mas, toso qa ejaleifontai kai epimeroys problhmata ta opoia anafyontai, kata kairoys, me apotelesma na dhmioyrgeitai mia oxi eyxaristh entypwsh. H Ellada proetoimazetai gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004, qa toys organwsei kai pisteyoyme oti qa to kanei me apolyth epityxia.

KOYIN: Gia to eggrafo poy eipate oti estalh ston Proedro ths Paraolympiakhs Epitrophs, shmainei oti ayto to zhthma paei pali pros kleisimo;

REPPAS: Ayto shmainei oti meta apo ayth thn epikoinwnia, to qema antimetwpizetai epityxws.

XARH: O Prwqypoyrgos htan enhmeros gia thn paraithsh toy k. Salele;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin se ayto to qema. Eipa oti paraithqhke epeidh epeleje mia allh epaggelmatikh drasthriothta. Kai epeidh gi ayta ta qemata xreiazetai na deixnoyme mia idiaiterh eyaisqhsia, nomizw oti ayth h kinhsh toy htan poly swsth.

XARH: Rwtw ean htan enhmerh h kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Den afora thn kybernhsh. Afora ena melos ths K.E. toy PASOK, to opoio ekane mia sygkekrimenh epaggelmatikh epilogh kai taytoxrona mia politikh kinhsh, paraitoymenos apo ena kommatiko organo. Den htan stelexos ths kybernhshs kai den kateixe kratiko ajiwma kata thn periodo ayth.

MPEKAS: Pws sxoliazete thn anakoinwsh ths Ierarxias gia to Kypriako;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti h epixeiroymenh politikopoihsh twn leitoyrgiwn ths Ierarxias ths Ekklhsias ths Elladas den synadei me thn pneymatikh kai koinwnikh apostolh ths. Taytoxrona, mporei na pei kaneis, oti dhmioyrgei problhmata sthn askhsh ths politikhs apo ta armodia organa ths syntetagmenhs ellhnikhs dhmokratikhs politeias.

KAPPOS: Exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh gia tis dhlwseis melwn ths Ierarxias peri ``symmoritikwn paidomazwmatwn k.lp.'';

REPPAS: Exoyn kanei shmera dieykrinistikes dhlwseis ekproswpoi ths Ierarxias. Den eimaste parontes. Gnwrizete ta dhmosieymata kai mporeite na ejagete symperasmata.

KARAKWSTAS: Prwton, exei oristikopoihqei h synanthsh ths kas Aggelopoyloy, h opoia opws plhroforoymaste epistrefei espeysmena apo to Londino, me ton Prwqypoyrgo; Kai, deyteron, exete kapoio sxolio gia thn katastash sthn Albania, se sxesh me th meionothta kai to shmerino agwna Elladas-Albanias;

REPPAS: Milate gia enan podosfairiko agwna san na prokeitai gia polemo. Antilambaneste pws h Ellada brisketai se ena allo epipedo. Pisteyoyme oti ta aqlhtika gegonota droyn symfiliwtika kai etsi antimetwpizoyme kai to sygkekrimeno agwna.

Se o,ti afora th meionothta, gnwrizete oti Ellhnes boyleytes exoyn ekdhlwsei endiaferon na einai parontes stis ekloges, poy qa ginoyn thn erxomenh Kyriakh. Pragmati, sth Xeimara yphrjan fainomena askhshs bias kai ekdhlwqhkan symperifores poy ephreasan -estw kai oriaka- to eklogiko apotelesma. Gi ayto akribws o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas, apo thn prwth stigmh, epikoinwnhse me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Albanias, ton k. Meta, o opoios kalese ta armodia organa ths xwras toy kai dhlwse oti o idios qa proedreysei sxetikhs syskechs, prokeimenoy na ejaleicoyn kaqe yponoia gia endexomenh epanalhch tetoiwn fainomenwn stis ekloges poy qa ginoyn thn Kyriakh. Yparxei, bebaiws, apo thn pleyra mas stenh parakoloyqhsh twn ejelijewn sthn Albania. Pisteyoyme oti h Albania prepei na proxwrhsei me taxyteroys ryqmoys ston ekdhmokratismo. Akoloyqoyme mia politikh arxwn kai pisteyoyme oti analogh politikh prepei na akoloyqoyn kai oi kybernhseis olwn twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs, symperilambanomenhs bebaiws kai ths Albanias. Den einai monodromos oi kales sxeseis Elladas-Albanias. Prepei h symbolh na einai amoibaia. Apo th dikh mas pleyra exoyme apodeijei oti epiqymoyme thn proodo mias dhmokratikhs kai oikonomika aneptygmenhs Albanias. Se ayth thn kateyqynsh ergazomaste. Gi ayto oi dhlwseis diaforwn politikwn paragontwn, oi opoies mporei na pei kaneis oti einai anaities kai aparadektes, dhmioyrgoyn problhma ej antikeimenoy. Giati an kapoioi qewroyn pws etsi mporei na blacoyn tis ellhno-albanikes sxeseis, prepei na antilhfqoyn oti kyriws blaptoyn ton eayto toys kai oxi thn Ellada. Ayta prepei na einai safh, prokeimenoy na mh dhmioyrgoyntai paranohseis.

Oson afora to prwto qema poy qesate: O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei ayrio gia th Gallia, prokeimenoy na labei meros sthn Atyph Synodo Koryfhs ths E.E. Thn erxomenh ebdomada exei programmatistei synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Asfalws, thn epomenh ebdomada qa exei th dynatothta, prin th synedriash ayth, na dexqei kai na synexisei th synergasia toy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Xqes, o k. Rogk, ekane anafora sth symfwnia poy epikeitai gia ta thleoptika dikaiwmata. Exoyme kati neotero;

REPPAS: Ayto den afora thn kybernhsh. H Organwtikh Epitroph qa prepei na epilejei ton omilo me ton opoio qa synergastei, prokeimenoy na einai epityxhs h probolh se olo ton kosmo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Gnwrizete oti exoyn proselqei perissoteroi toy enos endiaferomenoi kai exoyn kataqesei ton fakelo ths ypochfiothtas toys. H O.E. einai ayth h opoia qa epilejei. Den epilegei, oyte ypografei opoiadhpote symfwnia h kybernhsh. H kybernhsh emmesws endiaferetai, alla entassetai sthn allh pleyra, afoy h ERT symmetexei se ayto to diagwnismo synergazomenh me alloys foreis, prokeimenoy na analabei thn kalych twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: O k. Laliwths eipe oti den prepei na yparxei telesigrafo. Yparxei ektimhsh sthn kybernhsh oti oi dhlwseis aytes toy k. Rogk einai sto pneyma twn dhlwsewn poy eixe kanei o k. Samarank prin merikoys mhnes , otan eixe pei gia ``kitrinh karta'';

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poies dhlwseis ekane o k. Samarank kai poies o k. Rogk. Pisteyoyme oti h DOE -opws safestata exoyn tonisei toso o k. Rogk twra, oso kai alloi ajiwmatoyxoi prin- endiaferetai gia mia artia organwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. To endiaferon poy ekdhlwnetai einai aytonohto. Alimono, ean h DOE den ekdhlwne endiaferon gia to pws proetoimazetai mia xwra gia th diorganwsh kai twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn poy exei analabei. Emeis dinoyme th diabebaiwsh sth DOE oti proetoimazomaste gia na diorganwsoyme toys kalyteroys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite kati gia th synanthsh poy eixan o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Petro Synadino, meta th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs;

REPPAS: To brady o Prwqypoyrgos qa dei kata seira, meta apo aithsh toys, thn ka Petralia, ton k. Foyra kai ton k. Synadino.

MOYRTZHS: Mhpws gnwrizete, ean apo to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy egine kamia ypomnhsh h filikh systash ston proedro ths INTRAKOM k. Kokkalh na mhn kanei metagrafes apo thn Kentrikh Epitroph kai malista enan anqrwpo gia ton opoio o Prwqypoyrgos, sthn ypoqesh toy BINTEOLOTTO yperaspisthke thn anidioteleia toy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti tetoioy eidoys epikoinwnia den yparxei kai pisteyw oti einai mia poly kakoboylh proseggish ayth poy kanete.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Twra poy to kybernwn komma stereitai twn yphresiwn enos stelexoys, opws o k. Saleles, mporeite na mas peite poio einai to symperasma sas apo thn apodosh toy kata th diarkeia poy proistato enos kratikoy Organismoy;

REPPAS: Exete dyo dedomena ta opoia mporeite na ajiologhsete: Prwton, oti o k. Saleles eixe kratiko ajiwma mexri tis prosfates ekloges. To komma mas kerdise tis ekloges aytes, kriqhke apo ton ellhniko lao. Meta tis ekloges o k. Saleles den anelabe kratiko ajiwma. Ayth htan h epilogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy h toy armodioy ypoyrgoy. O k. Saleles ekane thn epilogh toy. Einai sebasth h epilogh toy. Analambanei kai thn eyqynh ayths ths epiloghs.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kata th diarkeia ths qhteias toy htan kala ta apotelesmata toy; Pws ta krinete eseis;

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw oti to PASOK kerdise tis ekloges. Mas ekrine o laos. Oi ekloges, gnwrizete poly kala, krinontai apo polloys paragontes, oi opoioi prepei na syntrejoyn, prokeimenoy na exeis ena epityxes apotelesma. Apo ekei kai pera, an qelete na krinoyme to ergo ths kybernhshs ekeinhs ths periodoy, na to kanoyme. Alla, den einai qema syzhthshs se ayto to pedio, otan exoyme prwtogenws kai me ayqentiko tropo thn ekfrash ths epiloghs toy idioy toy ellhnikoy laoy.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Epeidh o k. Saleles eixe pragmati kybernhtiko ajiwma, na sas qymisw oti, meta to tragiko dystyxhma, h kybernhsh apofasise oti ta stelexh ths epiqewrhshs ploiwn, afoy fygoyn apo thn yphresia toys den prepei na ergastoyn gia kapoia idiwtikh etairia@

REPPAS: Den isxyei twra ayto. Qa isxyei me to neo nomoqetiko plaisio poy etoimazoyme. To idio problepetai kai se alles periptwseis.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: @epeidh, loipon, meta to dystyxhma h kybernhsh apofasise ta stelexh ayta na mhn mporoyn na ergastoyn ston idiwtiko tomea me synafes antikeimeno, mhpws qa eprepe kati antistoixo na yparjei kai gia ton eyrytero dhmosio tomea gia stelexh opws o k. Saleles;

REPPAS: Xreiazontai eidikes nomoqetikes ryqmiseis. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayto den apagoreyetai -kai milw gia th sygkekrimenh periptwsh- gi` ayto mporei na kriqei mono sto pedio ths hqikhs, oxi sto pedio ths nomimothtas. Kata ta alla, se polles periptwseis prowqoyntai tetoies ryqmiseis. Anaferate mia poy afora to neo plaisio gia thn emporikh naytilia, thn aktoploia. Sas anaferw oti sto nomosxedio poy exoyme kataqesei kai syzhtoyme sth Boylh gia to ESR, metajy twn allwn, problepetai oti gia arketa xronia meta thn apoxwrhsh toys apo to Symboylio, ta melh toy den exoyn th dynatothta na apasxolhqoyn se epixeirhmatikoys foreis poy amesws h emmesws anhkoyn ston eyrytero optikoakoystiko tomea. Einai mia ryqmish poly shmantikh poy exoyme problecei.

Me thn eykairia ths apanthshs ayths, para to oti phra aformh apo allo qema, qelw na kanw ena sxolio, apantwntas sta osa eipe xqes, se thleoptikh ekpomph o k. Mhtsotakhs gia to ESR: H kritikh toy einai adikh. Profanws, agnoei apolytws tis diatajeis aytoy toy nomosxedioy. Kalw kai pali kai prokalw opoiondhpote na sygkrinei to nomoqetiko plaisio to opoio prowqoyme edw sthn Ellada gia to ESR, me ayto poy isxyei gia tis antistoixes radiothleoptikes anejarthtes arxes stis alles xwres ths E.E. Kai meta apo ayth th sygkritikh meleth, mporei na bgalei ta symperasmata toy. Diatypwnetai mia kritikh gia to oti prowqoyme twra ayto to nomosxedio, poy einai se ejelijh h syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, enw thn idia stigmh, diatypwnetai kritikh sthn kybernhsh, giati den dinei tis armodiothtes aytes tis opoies to nomosxedio dinei sto ESR, edw kai twra. Apo th mia, dhladh, mas lene, mhn prowqeite twra th syzhthsh toy nomosxedioy kai apo thn allh mas zhtoyn na dwsoyme tis armodiothtes sto Symboylio, twra. Ma, gi` ayto, akribws syzhtoyme twra to nomosxedio, prwton, giati twra dinoyme tis armodiothtes aytes sto baqmo plhroys anejarthtopoihshs toys sto ESR. Kai deyteron -epeidh ginetai logos gia ton tropo sygkrothshs- eipa oti eimaste etoimoi na akoysoyme protaseis twn allwn kommatwn. Se teleytaia analysh, h Olomeleia ths Boylhs einai meizwn sxhmatismos, se sxesh me thn Epitroph opoy syzhteitai h anaqewrhsh diatajewn toy Syntagmatos. Oi idioi foreis, ta idia kommata, oi idioi ekproswpoi toys, syzhtoyn kai sth mia kai sthn allh diadikasia. Ayto poy einai etoimoi na kanoyn, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, as to kanoyn sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia to nomosxedio poy afora to ESR. Na proteinoyn, loipon, ayto poy qewroyn swsto, prokeimenoy na apotypwqei ws diatajh se ena neo nomo gia to ESR. Den katalabainw ayth thn anakoloyqia toys, h opoia deixnei, logw antifatikothtas, kai th skopimothta me thn opoia energoyn kai askoyn kritikh.

KAPPOS: Prohgoymenws, apantwntas se erwthsh synadelfoy gia to Albaniko, sxoliasate dysmenws dhlwseis profanws Albanwn paragontwn toy k. Mperisa kai toy k. Nano. An anafereste se aytoys, qa hqela na rwthsw, ti nohma exei h analhch paroxhs eggyhsewn, apo pleyras toy k. Meta, apo th stigmh poy oi paragontes Mperisa kai Nano einai aytoi poy orizoyn th dynamikh sthn Albania.

REPPAS: Qa prepei na krinete thn politikh twn geitonikwn xwrwn mesa apo tis antifaseis kai tis dyskolies poy synantoyn sthn poreia toys pros thn Eyrwph. Pisteyw oti h albanikh kybernhsh kai o Albanos prwqypoyrgos k. Meta exoyn mia tetoia proseggish, h opoia deixnei oti kaqe allo para yioqetoyn tetoioy eidoys kataggelies h dhlwseis poy kanoyn alloi politikoi paragontes sthn Albania. Kai ayto einai qetiko. Kai taytoxrona, kanw sxolio gia tis dhlwseis twn allwn paragontwn, giati qelw na epishmanw ayth th diaforopoihsh.

XARH: H DOE eixe ypodeijei sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh th systash ypoyrgeioy Olympiakwn Agwnwn, opws dhlwse o k. Rogk;

REPPAS: Exei kanei dhmosies dhlwseis, kat` epanalhch, o k. Samarank kai tis exete parakoloyqhsei. Opws epishs, me aformh diafora dhmosieymata h eikasies h ektimhseis, exoyn teqei erwthseis apo sas se ayth thn aiqoysa kai exoyn doqei apanthseis. Stis apanthseis aytes, h qesh mas htan safhs. Se ayth th qesh paramenoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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