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MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Qessalonikh, 2 Septembrioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MME KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA STHN ESHEM-Q

Geia sas.

Ofeilw na sas eyxaristhsw gia th symmetoxh sas se ayth th syzhthsh politikhs enhmerwshs, h opoia qa akoloyqhsei. Einai h prwth fora, sta pente xronia poy episkeptomai ws Ypoyrgos Typoy kai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, sto plaisio ths DEQ, ayto to xwro ths Enwshs Syntaktwn Hmerhsiwn Efhmeridwn Makedonias-Qrakhs (ESHEM-Q) kai exoyme th dynatothta, se ejairetika kales synqhkes apo texnikh kai organwtikh apoch na syzhthsoyme qemata ths epikairothtas.

Eimai etoimos na dexqw tis erwthseis sas kai parakalw na meinoyme sta qemata ths epikairothtas, lambanontas ypoch oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa ekfwnhsei to brady sxetikh omilia gia qemata poy aforoyn th Qessalonikh kai thn eyryterh perioxh kai, genikotera, tis oikonomikes ejelijeis. Qa einai mia omilia, kyriws, oikonomikoy periexomenoy, enw h xqesinh htan politikoy periexomenoy. Opws gnwrizete ayrio to meshmeri o Prwqypoyrgoys qa paraxwrhsei synenteyjh Typoy, sto plaisio ths opoias eseis kai polloi synadelfoi sas qa exete th dynatothta na qesete erwthseis gia seira qematwn poy apasxoloyn th xwra kai toys Ellhnes polites.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

B. KEXAGIA: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn apofash ths N.D. na aposxei apo tis ekdhlwseis twn egkainiwn ths DEQ, kaqws, epishs kai ena sxolio gia thn paroysia, en telei, orismenwn stelexwn ths kai, kyriws, apo to xwro ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs.

REPPAS: Ayth h apofash ayto-apomonwshs stelexwn ths N.D. apo tis ekdhlwseis ths DEQ, apotelei prosbolh gia thn idia thn polh, gia toys Qessalonikeis, gia toys Ellhnes polites. H paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis ekdhlwseis ths DEQ exei apokthsei, pleon -mporei na to pei kaneis ayto- qesmiko xarakthra. H opoiadhpote apostasiopoihsh, kai malista me yponooymena, ta opoia dinoyn mia politikh diastash antiparaqeshs, pisteyoyme oti mas gyrizei se epoxes misallodojias h ojytaths antiparaqeshs poy den exei kamia sxesh me tis anagkes toy shmera kai tis proklhseis toy ayrio. Emeis koitoyme pros to mellon. Kapoioi epixeiroyn na mas gyrisoyn sto parelqon, prowqwntas tetoies dixastikes leitoyrgies. As toys krinoyn oi idioi oi polites. Timoyme ekeinoys, oi opoioi me ajioprepeia, me sebasmo sto qesmiko rolo toys symmetexoyn se aytes tis diadikasies. Qelw na epishmanw, me thn eykairia poy moy dinete me thn erwthsh sas, thn paroysia toy Dhmarxoy ths polhs kai kata th xqesinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, pragma to opoio deixnei oti to mhnyma, to opoio ejepemce kai o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs, kata thn omilia toy, gia synenwsh olwn twn dynamewn, gia synergasia, prokeimenoy na petyxoyme toys megaloys stoxoys poy aforoyn kai kaqorizoyn to mellon ths xwras, exei apodektes se oles tis pleyres toy politikoy fasmatos. Ayto mas ikanopoiei.

ST. TZHMAS: Meta tis antidraseis ths antipoliteyshs gia thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: Oi antidraseis aytes einai adikaiologhtes. Qa elega pws mas ejeplhjan arnhtika. Giati o Prwqypoyrgos me th xqesinh omilia toy katalyei mia paradosh pollwn etwn. Epeleje th DEQ kai th Qessalonikh, giati me thn omilia toy ayth hqele na moirasei th skech toy kai to orama toy gia thn Ellada kai ton Ellhnismo me toys Qessalonikeis kai oloys toy Ellhnes polites poy thn parakoloyqhsan. Kathgorhqhke gi ayto apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, ta opoia profanws qa hqelan na akoysoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras na milaei me mia glwssa stereotyph. Me mia glwssa anaforas se enan timokatalogo, isws, ergwn poy en pash periptwsei mporei na apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs, bash ejaggeliwn, mporei na apotelesei panw apo ola thn prajh, thn pragmatikothta, dhladh, toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, pragma to opoio gnwrizoyn hdh oi Qessalonikeis. Den mporei omws na apotelesei thn aformh gia mia tetoioy eidoys kritikh. Pisteyoyme oti h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy antapokrinetai stis apaithseis twn kairwn. H epilogh poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos na milhsei ws eqnikos hgeths kai oxi ws kommatarxhs, htan swsth. Dystyxws, oi arxhgoi twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs den antilambanontai thn eqnikh diastash toy politikoy roloy toys kai paramenoyn kommatarxes.

P. NERANTZHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Tzem, ston opoio bebaiws apanthse o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy. Epishs, poia einai h dikh sas qesh gia thn apofash toy k. Klhridh na mh qesei qema apoxwrhshs toy apo ton tetarto gyro twn synomiliwn gia to Kypriako, oi opoies symfwna me oles tis ektimhseis qa odhghqoyn se nayagio.

REPPAS: Pragmati, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias, o k. Tzem, exei aposteilei sxetikh epistolh stoys omologoys toy twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. H Ellada, oson afora tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis, exei aposafhnisei thn politikh ths. Akoloyqoyme mia politikh arxwn. Mia politikh h opoia sthrizetai stoys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, me sebasmo twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn twn xwrwn, me sebasmo twn synorwn poy exoyn kaqoristei me Synqhkes, poy oloi prepei na sebomaste kai na throyme. H epikoinwnia kai o dialogos sthn epoxh poy zoyme einai leitoyrgiko stoixeio stis sxeseis twn kratwn. O dialogos kai h epikoinwnia den einai dynaton, omws, na aforoyn thn anatroph yfistamenwn synorwn poy -epanalambanw- problepontai apo Synqhkes, oi opoies isxyoyn edw kai para polla xronia. Kai, bebaiws, o dialogos den mporei na anaferetai sta kyriarxika dikaiwmata twn kratwn. Kati tetoio einai adianohto. Den exei symbei kai den prokeitai na symbei, se o,ti mas afora. Sto Elsinki oristhke ena plaisio, entos toy opoioy qa prepei h Toyrkia na enarmonistei me ayto kai na analabei sxetikes prwtoboylies gia na enswmatwqei sthn eyrwpaikh pragmatikothta. Mexri twra adynatei na antapokriqei. Oi prwtoboylies poy prepei na analabei, asfalws, dhmioyrgoyn dyskolies sto eswteriko ths, logw toy idiotypoy kaqestwtos sth geitonikh xwra, pisteyoyme, omws, oti apoteloyn mia poly megalh proklhsh, sthn opoia prepei na antapokriqei me epityxia h Toyrkia, epeidh prwtistws qa wfelhqei h idia. Kaleitai na to kanei.

Oson afora tis syzhthseis gia to Kypriako, gnwrizete oti ejarxhs h kypriakh kybernhsh -kai symfwnoyme me ayto- exei qesei, ws qema arxhs, thn oysiastikh kai gonimh syzhthsh olwn twn sxetikwn ptyxwn, h antimetwpish twn opoiwn mporei na odhghsei se epilysh toy kypriakoy qematos. Den prepei na yparjei periorismos se diadikastika qemata. Poly perissotero, den prepei mesa apo diafora texnasmata, me prosxhmatiko tropo, h allh pleyra na epidiwjei thn parempodish ths proodoy twn synomiliwn aytwn, me apotelesma na synthrhqei to shmerino qlibero gia thn Eyrwph, ton politismeno dhmokratiko kosmo, ``statoys'' sthn Kypro. Opws ki eseis eipate, oi probleceis einai dysoiwnes, giati mexri twra h Toyrkia -ki as mh geliomaste, den mporoyme na miloyme gia ton Ntenktas, gia thn hgesia sta katexomena ths Kyproy, prepei na miloyme gia thn Toyrkia h opoia eyqews sxetizetai me thn kratoysa katastash sta katexomena- den exei epideijei diaqesh na symbalei me qetiko tropo sthn antimetwpish toy sxetikoy problhmatos. Einai kati, to opoio qa ephreasei tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis kai ayto prepei na to exei ypoch ths h Toyrkia. Kata ta alla, o OHE, ypo thn aigida toy opoioy diejagontai aytes oi synomilies, qa prepei na enteinei thn prospaqeia toy, wste na epideijei megalyterh apotelesmatikothta stis prwtoboylies poy analambanei gia to kypriako zhthma kai na katajiwsei etsi kai to diko toy rolo.

D. ASPROPOYLHS: Allaje tipota mesa se ena xrono kai blepoyme ayth th symperifora ths Toyrkias, giati prin ena xrono hmastan poly konta;

REPPAS: Oydepote h epikoinwnia, h proseggish shmainei aytomatws thn arsh twn opoiwn diaforwn sthn politikh poy akoloyqoyn oi dyo xwres. Emeis pantote kai twra kai sto mellon qa akoloyqoyme mia politikh arxwn. H Toyrkia akoloyqei mia politikh, h opoia syxna exei stoixeia epektatikothtas. Ayto exei epishmanqei. H Toyrkia kaleitai na enarmonistei me th dieqnh ennomh tajh, pragma to opoio shmainei oti ysterei se sxesh me thn politikh arxwn poy akoloyqoyn oi xwres-melh ths E.E. kai h Ellada metajy aytwn. Den exei allajei apolytws tipota. Ayto to opoio exei allajei einai h dhmioyrgia enos klimatos mh entashs, metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Ayto, mporei na pei kaneis, apotelei, ej antikeimenoy, mia oriakh beltiwsh stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Ajizei, omws, na eimaste pio tolmhroi, pio ypeyqynoi. Na analaboyme prwtoboylies gia na pame se mia, kata to dynaton, ejomalynsh twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn kai parapera se mia filikh synergasia. H Toyrkia prepei na analabei apo th dikh ths pleyra tis prwtoboylies poy ths analogoyn. Den to exei kanei mexri twra. Einai kati gia to opoio qa klhqei na dwsei apanthseis.

I. SWKOS: O Prwqypoyrgos xqes afhse na ennohqei oti den qewrei panakeia to dialogo kai th synainesh, prokeimenoy na perasei kapoies kybernhtikes apofaseis. Eipe xqes oti syxna h epidiwjh ths eyryterhs apodoxhs odhgei se stasimothta. Ayto shmainei oti den perimenei polla apo ton koinwniko dialogo poy arxizei th Deytera me ta syndikata kai oti qa erqei se sygkroysh me ayta, prokeimenoy na perasoyn oi prosfates ejaggelies toy ypoyrgoy Ergasias;

REPPAS: Ta panta sth zwh, gnwrizete poly kala, krinontai apo toys ekastote diamorfoymenoys sysxetismoys dynamewn. Alla, o sysxetismos dynamhs den einai xwris periexomeno, den einai ena ``adeiano poykamiso''. Exei ena sygkekrimeno ideologiko, politiko, koinwniko kai politistiko periexomeno. Sta sygkekrimena ayta zhthmata h kybernhsh epidiwkei th synenwsh olwn twn dynamewn, wste na antimetwpisoyme ena qema poy, kata th dikh mas apoch, exei eqnikh shmasia. Na antimetwpisoyme, dhladh, kai na lysoyme to problhma ths anergias poy anagnwrizoyme oti mastizei th xwra mas. Sthn prospaqeia mas ayth, epiqymoyme na symballoyn oi ergazomenoi, oloi oi koinwnikoi foreis sto xwro ths paragwghs. Pisteyoyme oti h qesh poy exei eishghqei h Kybernhsh mporei na apotelesei th bash, thn afethria gia mia peraiterw syzhthsh, wste mesw toy dialogoy, ths synqeshs, ths ajiopoihshs olwn twn qetikwn apocewn, na laboyme tis telikes apofaseis. Omws, den epitrepetai na parameinoyme, an o dialogos aytos den odhghsei amesws se symfwnies, sto telma. Qa prepei na epixeirhsoyme oloi mia yperbash, prokeimenoy etsi na proseggisoyme, an oxi na lysoyme, to stoxo ton opoio exoyme qesei, na antimetwpisoyme dhladh to problhma ths anergias. Oi ergazomenoi qa prepei asfalws na agwnizontai gia ta symferonta toys. Ayto den einai qemito aplws, den anagnwrizetai apo mas san kati poy dikaioyntai na kanoyn, einai epibeblhmeno. Einai stoixeio ths dhmokratikhs leitoyrgias ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Peran aytoy, omws, qa prepei kai ekeinoi kai oloi mas na skeftoyme kai toys ektos twn teixwn, toys anergoys. Toys neoys ths patridas mas poy anazhtoyn kalyteres synqhkes zwhs, ejasfalizontas, metajy twn allwn, kai apasxolhsh. Se ayth thn kateyqynsh, epeidh einai koinos o skopos, qa prepei na strateytoyn oles oi dynameis ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Prepei me qetiko, aisiodojo tropo na proseggizoyme, para toys problhmatismoys, tis anhsyxies kai tis diaforopoihseis poy ekdhlwnontai, ola ayta ta qemata. Elpizw oti telikws qa prytaneysei tetoio pneyma synergasias.

I. ARGYROS: Eipate an den yparxoyn amesa lyseis. Yparxei xronodiagramma gi ayto to dialogo;

REPPAS: O dialogos den mporei na einai atermwn. Asfalws, omws, qa exei ena xroniko orizonta tetoio, wste na doqei h dynatothta se oloys toys foreis na anaptyjoyn ta epixeirhmata toys, giati to zhtoymeno einai na katalhjoyme se lyseis. Den epidiwkoyme th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn, oyte mporei o dialogos aytos na apotelesei pedio antiparaqeshs, prokeimenoy, mesw ayths ths antiparaqeshs, na anadeixqoyn nikhtes kai htthmenoi. Prepei na eimaste oloi nikhtes. Ara, loipon, o orizontas aytos xronika mporei na exei baqos mhnwn. Prepei na ajiopoihqei ayto to xroniko diasthma kai pisteyw oti qa ginei ayto, prokeimenoy na ftasoyme se aisia apotelesmata.

X. ATZIMAKHS: H anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy, xqes sta egkainia ths DEQ, sto qema twn taytothtwn, mhpws shmatodotei thn anhsyxia ths kybernhshs gia thn ektash poy exei labei to qema, ystera bebaia kai apo thn emmonh ths Ierarxias;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh exei anakoinwsei thn telikh qesh ths gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Eimaste apofasismenoi na perifroyrhsoyme ta dikaiwmata twn politwn. Ta dikaiwmata toy atomoy den ypokeintai stoys kanones ths pleiochfias. Den einai dynaton h pleiochfia na apofasisei gia ta dikaiwmata ths meiochfias, akomh kai an ta dikaiwmata ayta aforoyn ena sympolith. Ena kai mono sympolith mas. To deltio anagnwrishs proswpoy, h gnwsth astynomikh taytothta, den einai tipota allo, para ena dhmosio eggrafo, to opoio ejyphretei ton polith stis synallages toy me tis kratikes yphresies. Den einai dhlwtiko twn pepoiqhsewn toy, aytwn poy exoyn apoklhqei ``eyaisqhta proswpika dedomena''. Tetoio qema, loipon, den tiqetai. To mono qema poy yparxei kai prepei na to antimetwpisoyme einai h anagkh gia ena gonimo, oysiastiko dialogo epi qematwn poy yparxoyn kai prepei na syzhthqoyn metajy ths Politeias kai ths Ekklhsias. Paradeigmatika anaferomai sta qemata aponomhs ths ekklhsiastikhs dikaiosynhs, ths ekklhsiastikhs ekpaideyshs, twn anaptyjiakwn ergwn poy h Ekklhsia qelei na sxediasei kai na prowqhsei. Ola ayta mporei na syzhthqoyn. Alla se ayth thn prosklhsh gia dialogo, ton opoio epiqymei h Kybernhsh, h Ierarxia den exei antapokriqei.

X. NIKOLAIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos apefyge na anaferqei se listes me ta erga ths Qessalonikhs gia na mh qewrhqei ws kommatarxhs. Me to dedomeno oti oi Qessalonikeis kai oi foreis ths polhs perimenoyn sygkekrimenes ejaggelies gia thn poreia twn ergwn aytwn, o Prwqypoyrgos den qa anaferqei se ayta oyte sthn apocinh toy omilia;

REPPAS: Eimaste molis tesseris mhnes meta tis ekloges. Qa htan, pisteyw, atopo kai mataio, o Prwqypoyrgos shmera na paroysiastei -to epanalambanw ayto- ws kommatarxhs, o opoios epidiwkei na kerdisei tis entypwseis h na ginei sympaqhs ejaggellontas erga. Ta erga poy aforoyn th Qessalonikh kai thn eyryterh perioxh exoyn ejaggelqei. O Prwqypoyrgos exei milhsei gia ta erga ayta, h Kybernhsh kai oi armodioi foreis ergazontai se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Sth shmerinh omilia toy, alla kai apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis poy pisteyw oti qa teqoyn ayrio, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei th dynatothta na anaferqei kai sta qemata ayta, alla sth swsth toys diastash. Ayth thn wra, h Qessalonikh brisketai antimetwph me megales proklhseis poy aforoyn to mellon ths Elladas kai oxi mono to diko ths mellon, logw ths idiaiterhs katastashs sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph, twn anakatatajewn, twn allagwn, twn synqhkwn poy epikratoyn sthn perioxh. Mia perioxh poy diakrinetai apo ypoleimmata eqnikismoy, apo politikh astaqeia kai en pollois oikonomikh kaxejia, pragma to opoio epiballei na eimaste poly pio ypeyqynoi kai prosektikoi stoys xeirismoys kai tis proseggiseis mas epi twn qematwn aytwn. Sta epimeroys qemata ths Qessalonikhs o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaferqei shmera sthn omilia toy, h opoia -epanalambanw- einai mia pio eidikh omilia.

B. BEGIRH: Xqes, oi ergazomenoi toy OTE apo edw, apo th Qessalonikh, ejhggeilan dynamikes kinhtopoihseis antitiqemenoi sto deytero paketo metoxopoihshs toy. Aphyqynan kathgories enantion toy YPEQO kai olhs ths Kybernhshs oti exoyn eispraktikh proqesh kai den endiaferontai gia to mellon toy Organismoy. Qa hqela ena sxolio kai epishs, an yparxei periptwsh allaghs pleyshs kai epanejetashs twn dyo enallaktikwn protasewn twn ergazomenwn gia thn idiwtikopoihsh toy OTE.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ws kybernhsh, exoyme oloklhrwsei ena shmantiko meros ths diarqrwtikhs politikhs poy eyqys ej arxhs eixame ejaggeilei. Proxwrhsame, thn prohgoymenh koinoboyleytikh periodo, se 15 diarqrwtikes allages: idiwtikopoihseis, metoxopoihseis, ejygianseis epixeirhsewn toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea. Gia th nea periodo, exoyme ejaggeilei 18 allages. Exoyme hdh oloklhrwsei tis treis. Aytes poy aforoyn th strathgikh symmaxia ths Emporikhs Trapezas, thn ELBO kai to Xrhmatisthrio. Stis allages poy prowqoyntai, metajy twn allwn, einai kai ayth poy afora thn paraxwrhsh enos tmhmatos toy metoxikoy kefalaioy toy OTE. Epeidh o OTE prepei na entaxqei se mia strathgikh symmaxia gia na antimetwpisei tis idiaitera antagwnistikes synqhkes poy dhmioyrgoyntai sto xwro twn thlepikoinwniwn, idiaiterws meta thn apeleyqerwsh ths agoras twn thlepikoinwniwn, pisteyoyme oti h epilogh ayth einai orqh, h kinhsh einai epibeblhmenh. Exei metoxopoihqei, opws gnwrizete, to 49% toy metoxikoy kefalaioy toy OTE. H epilogh poy exoyme kanei einai na diathrhsei to Dhmosio ton elegxo toy Organismoy kai bebaiws, na diathrhsei to management toy megaloy aytoy Organismoy. Na parameinei, dhladh, an qelete na to pw pio sygkekrimena, o Organismos ypo th shmerinh dioikhsh toy. O OTE synergazetai me Symboylo megalhs empeirias kai ajiopistias sthn kateyqynsh ayth. Oi protaseis, oi eishghseis toy symboyloy pisteyoyme oti einai apolytws ajiopoihsimes, einai realistikes, einai tekmhriwmenes, einai efarmosimes. Pisteyw oti oi antidraseis oi opoies ekdhlwnontai, mporei na antimetwpistoyn me enan kalopisto dialogo, efoson, omws, yparxei diaqesh, kapoioi oi opoioi shmera enantiwnontai se mia tetoia epilogh, na peistoyn, efoson akoysoyn ton peistiko diko mas logo. Prepei me megalh taxythta na ``trejei'' o OTE s@ ayth thn kateyqynsh gia na prolabei tis ejelijeis. Emeis, apo th dikh mas pleyra, den einai dynato na afhsoyme ton OTE anoxyrwto apenanti se ayth thn proklhsh toy antagwnismoy. Prepei na proxwrhsoyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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