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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Maioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Shmera einai hmera ``Olympiadas''. Ektos apo th synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs epitrophs, poy einai se ejelijh, gnwrizete oti to apogeyma syzhteitai sthn olomeleia ths Boylhs, pro hmerhsias diatajews, meta apo aithsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, to qema ths proetoimasias ths xwras mas. Epishs, sth Boylh syzhteitai to synafes nomosxedio poy exei kataqesei o armodios Ypoyrgos Politismoy. Ara, yparxei qema to opoio qa sas bohqhsei na anadeijete thn epikairothta.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MOYRTZHS: Na kanw mia adiakrith erwthsh, ean sas apokaloysan ``lolita ths politikhs'', pws qa antidroysate;

REPPAS: Den nomizw oti ayta einai qemata poy prepei na mas apasxoloyn sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs, giati den exoyn sxesh me thn politikh enhmerwsh.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei mia plhroforhsh poy diaxeetai oti h sxesh toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas den einai se aristh katastash kai oti, telos pantwn, yparxoyn tribes, me aformh ta MOE. Alhqeyei ayth h plhroforhsh;

REPPAS: Kaqe allo. Oi sxeseis toys einai para poly kales. Synergazontai sta qemata synarmodiothtas, me tetoio tropo, wste na exoyme -kai einai emfanes ayto- epityxh apotelesmata, kata thn askhsh ths ejwterikhs kai amyntikhs politikhs ths xwras. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi dyo koryfaioi synadelfoi symmetexoyn se ola ta kybernhtika organa, opoy lambanontai shmantikes apofaseis, gia ta qemata eite twn ejoplismwn (blepe KYSEA), eite ejwterikhs politikhs, (Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai Ypoyrgiko Symboylio). Oi idioi exoyn dhlwsei me poly safh tropo to pws synergazontai. Epanalambanw, peran twn oswn legoyn ekeinoi h opoiosdhpote allos gi` ayth th synergasia, exete mprosta sas -kai einai orata- ta kala apotelesmata ayths ths synergasias. Ta apotelesmata ayta peiqoyn gia thn poly kalh, syntonismenh, armonikh synergasia twn dyo ypoyrgwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Me aformh ayth thn erwthsh, epeidh grafetai ston Typo mia-dyo hmeres twra, thn ejwterikh politikh poios th xarazei; Den th xarazei o Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras;

REPPAS: Thn politikh th xarazei h kybernhsh, mesw twn kybernhtikwn organwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den oloklhrwsa. Grafetai oti o k. Papandreoy akoloyqei mia dikh toy grammh sthn ejwterikh politikh kai oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai problhmatismenos kai malista sth synanthsh toys, to eqese @etsi lene oi efhmerides- oti qa prepei na akoloyqei th grammh ths kybernhshs kai oxi dikh toy ejwterikh politikh. Einai etsi ta pragmata;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos epilegei toys ypoyrgoys. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos o opoios synergazetai me toys ypoyrgoys, gia ta qemata armodiothtas toys. Oi apofaseis lambanontai apo ta syllogika kybernhtika organa. To plaisio, to pws efarmozetai, to parakoloyqei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Thn ejeidikeysh twn metrwn toy plaisioy aytoy gia kaqe tomea politikhs thn analambanei o kata periptwsh armodios ypoyrgos. Den tiqetai, loipon, tetoio qema. O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn askei ta kaqhkonta toy me apolytws epityxh tropo, sto plaisio ths politikhs poy exei apofasisei h kybernhsh, me th leitoyrgia twn kybernhtikwn organwn, sta opoia proedreyei o Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poia einai ta ``kala apotelesmata'' ths synergasias; Eipate ``ta kala apotelesmata''@

REPPAS: H anabaqmish ths xwras sth dieqnh skhnh. Einai gnwsto oti h Ellada, ta teleytaia xronia, me qeamatiko tropo exei beltiwsei th qesh ths sthn eyrwpaikh skhnh. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti einai se ejelijh ena poly shmantiko ejoplistiko programma. To megalytero poy exei ginei sth xwra mas. Ayta @kai menw mono se ayta ta paradeigmata- apoteloyn energeies, oi opoies exoyn prokycei ws apotelesma synennohshs, synergasias kai koinwn apofasewn, sth lhch twn opoiwn symmetexoyn kai oi dyo ypoyrgoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy exei kanei kapoies symfwnies, erhmhn ths kybernhshs, me ton k. Tzem;

REPPAS: Den yparxei otidhpote poy na afora askhsh ejwterikhs politikhs apo thn pleyra toy k. Papandreoy kai na brisketai ektos twn oriwn ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, opws ayth exei apofasistei kai xaraxtei apo thn idia thn kybernhsh. H politikh ayth ejeidikeyetai apo ton armodio ypoyrgo. Den yparxei tipote allo peran aytoy. Otidhpote allo legetai, profanws legetai apo kakoboyloys kai kakopistoys gia profaneis logoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote, giati o Ypoyrgos Amynas exei ekfrasei kapoia parapona gia stratiwtikes symfwnies poy den einai armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Den yparxei otidhpote, poy na exei ekfrastei apo ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas, to opoio na apotelei kritikh kata toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, oson afora thn ejwterikh politikh.

BIDALH: Mias kai anaferqhkate sto ejoplistiko, pote anamenetai na analabei o diadoxos toy k. Smpwkoy, toy Grammatea toy Ejoplistikoy Programmatos toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas;

REPPAS: Th Genikh Dieyqynsh Ejoplismwn -thn opoia exei idrysei o shmerinos ypoyrgos Amynas dedomenoy oti eprepe na jekinhsei kai na proxwrhsei xwris xronotribh ena megalo ejoplistiko programma- qa thn analabei kapoio stelexos thn epomenh periodo, meta apo apofash toy armodioy ypoyrgoy. H qesh ayth, pragmati, paramenei kenh meta thn paraithsh toy k. Smpwkoy kai qa kalyfqei syntoma.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, se geyma poy paraqetei twra h Enwsh Antapokritwn Jenoy Typoy ston Arxiepiskopo k. Xristodoylo, exoyn klhqei kai oi ypoyrgoi Paideias kai PEXWDE. Ap` o,ti exoyme plhroforhqei den exei paei kanenas apo toys dyo. Ayto shmainei oti gia thn kybernhsh exei ``kleisei'' to qema me tis taytothtes kai den yparxoyn periqwria dialogoy;

REPPAS: Oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, efoson exoyn aneilhmmenes ypoxrewseis, piqanon einai na mhn mporoyn na pareyreqoyn se ayth th synanthsh. Oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema, h kybernhsh exei labei tis apofaseis ths, poy den einai alles apo th synepeia poy prepei na deijei efarmozontas enan nomo poy exei chfisei h Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Den antimetwpizoyme opoiodhpote allo qema. H efarmogh toy nomoy aytoy -epanalambanw- den afora to qrhskeyma kai den afora tis taytothtes. Afora ola ta legomena ``eyaisqhta proswpika dedomena'', ta fronhmata, tis pepoiqhseis twn politwn. Kai, epishs, afora ola ta dhmosia eggrafa. Ypo to prisma ayto, qa prepei na proseggisete kai na analysete kai to sygkekrimeno zhthma. To qema ayto den afora tis sxeseis Politeias-Ekklhsias, para mono th sxesh toy kratoys kai twn yphresiwn toy me toys polites, poy synallassontai me ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi politikes hgesies twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn htan kai tis dyo wres kalymmenes, eixan aneilhmmenes ypoxrewseis oloi; Den perisseye kanenas na paei;

REPPAS: Shmera, k. Stamatopoyle, opws gnwrizete poly kala, o k. Eyqymioy kataqetei to prwto nomosxedio, ws ypoyrgos. Eixe aneilhmmenh ypoxrewsh. Den einai eykolo, thn wra poy programmatizetai mia tetoia ekdhlwsh, enas allos ypoyrgos poy epishs exei, apo kairo, analabei dikes toy ypoxrewseis, na mporei na pareyreqei se mia tetoia ekdhlwsh. Mh bgazete apo ayto, politiko symperasma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn yfypoyrgoi, yparxoyn@

REPPAS: Kamia sxesh to ena me to allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa mporoysan na steiloyn kapoion allo.

REPPAS: Ma, den exoyn klhqei oloi, k. Stamatopoyle. Egw den exw klhqei. Den shmainei oti exoyn klhqei oloi oi ypoyrgoi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Synhqws, o ypoyrgos stelnei kapoion otan den mporei o idios. Twra den mporoyse oyte yfypoyrgos, oyte kanenas;

REPPAS: H prosklhsh -epanalambanw- den einai aytonohth pros oloys toys ypoyrgoys. H prosklhsh ginetai me prwtoboylia twn organwtwn mias ekdhlwshs.

BITALHS: Exoyn akoystei kapoies apoceis apo thn ierarxia ths Ekklhsias, oi opoies xondrika lene oti ``qa mporoysame na stamathsoyme, qa mporoysame na ejetasoyme jana ayto to qema me tis taytothtes, arkei h kybernhsh, epishmws, na dwsei kapoies diabebaiwseis oti den qa proxwrhsei parapanw merika pragmata, oson afora tis sxeseis Ekklhsias-Kratoys''. Einai ayth th stigmh h kybernhsh se qesh, prokeimenoy na hremhsoyn ta pragmata, na dwsei kapoies sxetikes diabebaiwseis se orismenoys apo thn ierarxia ths Ekklhsias;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin kai epanalambanw oti to mono qema to opoio antimetwpisame einai h efarmogh enos nomoy poy exei chfistei, edw kai arketa xronia, apo th Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Allo qema den antimetwpizoyme. Kata ta alla, de einai swstos o xarakthras ths diapragmateyshs poy prosdidetai se syzhthseis gia qemata poy aforoyn th sxesh ths Politeias me toys polites.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akoma: O k. Aqnar me poioys qa synanthqei;

REPPAS: O k. Aqnar, qa erqei pragmati sthn patrida mas, thn epomenh periodo kai qa exei synomilies me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

BITALHS: Gia 6 me 7 Ioynioy exei oristikopoihqei;

REPPAS: Qa to anakoinwname thn epomenh Deytera, anaferomenoi sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gia thn epomenh ebdomada Alla sas lew oti pragmati, ekeines tis hmeres qa episkefqei o k. Aqnar thn Ellada.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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