Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-05-29

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Maioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis prosexeis hmeres:

Ayth thn wra, opws gnwrizete, einai se ejelijh h synergasia toy me thn Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Basw Papandreoy. O prwqypoyrgos exei episkefqei to ktirio toy prwhn Ypoyrgeioy Proedrias. Qemata dhmosias dioikhshs apoteloyn to antikeimeno ayths ths synergasias. Qa probei se sxetikes dhlwseis, meta thn oloklhrwsh twn synomiliwn. Apoce, to brady, episkeptetai, sto plaisio episkechs ergasias, th xwra mas, thn Aqhna, o Belgos Prwqypoyrgos k. Berxofen.

Ayrio, stis 11.30 to prwi, arxizoyn oi kanonikes synomilies. En synexeia, meta thn oloklhrwsh twn syzhthsewn toys qa doqei h kaqierwmenh synenteyjh Typoy kai akoloyqws o Prwqypoyrgos qa paraqesei geyma ston jeno epishmo. Epishs, ayrio stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, me ton opoio qa synergastei gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy toy.

Thn Tetarth, stis 12.30 to meshmeri, qa proedreysei sth synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs epitrophs, me antikeimeno thn Olympiada toy 2004. Gnwrizete poly kala oti edw kai arketes ebdomades, ton teleytaio kairo, kaqe Tetarth, thn idia wra, ginetai ayth h synedriash toy diypoyrgikoy organoy. Stis 7 to apogeyma, sth Boylh, qa ginei h pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh, se epipedo arxhgwn, sxetika me thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004, meta apo aithsh toy arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs k. Karamanlh.

Thn Pempth, stis 4 to apogeyma, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs omadas synergatwn toy, anaxwrei, prokeimenoy na labei meros sth Dieqnh Diaskech poy ginetai sto Berolino 2-3 Ioynioy, gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn proodeytikh diakybernhsh, ta epomena xronia. Se ayth th diaskech lambanoyn meros hgetes apo oles tis hpeiroys toy planhth mas. Qa toys apasxolhsei akribws ayto to qema.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia dhlwsh, me aformh fainomena bandalismoy se baros Ellhnwn politwn, ebraikhs katagwghs. Exoyme kai allh fora ekfrasei ton apotropiasmo mas gia tetoioy eidoys fainomena. Oxi monon ta katadikazoyme kai ta apodokimazoyme, alla kai ekfrazoyme thn orgh mas, giati tetoioy eidoys symperifores ekqetoyn thn patrida mas, mas prosballoyn oloys, otan strefontai enantion sympolitwn mas. To na antimetwpizontai me ayto ton tropo einai ena fainomeno poy jeperna ta oria, akomh kai ta akraia oria. Qa elega oti einai pera apo ta akraia oria mias symperiforas. Aytos o bandalismos den prokeitai na perasei. Oi armodies yphresies kanoyn o,ti einai dynaton, prokeimenoy na entopisoyn toys ypaitioys tetoiwn prajewn. Gnwrizete oti sxetikh dhlwsh ekana kai proxqes, meta apo erwthsh, me aformh thn epiqesh sto spiti ths aeimnhsths Melinas Merkoyrh. Epiqesh poy strefotan, oysiastikws, enantion toy Zyl Ntassen kai o,ti ayto yponooyse.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARELIAS: O Arxiepiskopos kathgorhse thn kybernhsh sas oti ekane ena ``prajikophma'', opws shmera to prwi. Enas despoths de, apokalese ton Prwqypoyrgo ``diktatora''. Moy kanei entypwsh oti den aisqaneste thn anagkh na kanete kamia dhlwsh.

REPPAS: Mh sas kanei kamia entypwsh. Emeis qewroyme oti den yfistatai sygkroysh kai rhjh metajy Politeias kai Ekklhsias. H sxesh Politeias kai Ekklhsias orioqeteitai, sto plaisio twn diakritwn kai amoibaiws sebastwn rolwn. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia, kaq` oson mas afora einai na proxwrhsoyme sthn efarmogh enos nomoy, o opoios anaferetai sth sxesh toy polith me tis kratikes yphresies kai afora th mh anagrafh twn eyaisqhtwn proswpikwn dedomenwn toy, twn fronhmatwn, twn kaqe morfhs pepoiqhsewn, se ena dhmosio eggrafo. O dikos mas logos den einai logos ojys kai logos sygkroysiakos, giati den qewroyme pws yparxei pedio gia antiparaqesh kai sygkroysh Ekklhsias kai Politeias. Kata ta alla, opoies ekfraseis xrhsimopoioyntai, gnwrizete poly kala, oti ekfrazoyn, bebaiws, aytoys poy tis xrhsimopoioyn, alla taytoxronws toys xarakthrizoyn kiolas. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h idia h Iera Synodos milhse kai ek twn proterwn katadikase fainomena akraias symperiforas h xarakthrismoys poy polles fores qewrhse oti mporei na enexoyn kai to xarakthra ths probokatsias. H qesh mas einai gnwsth kai safhs. Paramenoyme se aythn.

KARELIAS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia osa eipe o Patriarxhs Barqolomaios;

REPPAS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. O idios exei epilejei pantote na mila, sto plaisio twn qrhskeytikwn kai pneymatikwn kaqhkontwn toy. Ton parakoloyqoyme. O logos toy einai panta sebastos, einai logos kyroys. Den qa sxoliasw epi ths oysias to logo toy Patriarxh.

KONTELH: Einai alhqeia pws h anafora toy qrhskeymatos, egine gia prwth fora, ton kairo ths katoxhs;

REPPAS: Einai ena istoriko stoixeio, to opoio kat` epanalhch exei anagrafei. Osoi meletoyn thn istoria, mporoyn na exoyn perissoteres plhrofories gi ayta ta qemata.

GKOGKAS: Prokeitai na pragmatopoihqei mia 10hmerh episkech toy amerikanotoyrkikoy lobby sthn Aqhna. Qa hqela na moy peite, ean h kybernhsh gnwrizei tis episkeceis poy qa exoyn Toyrkoi kai Amerikanoi sthn Aqhna. Kai ean prokeitai na synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos mazi toys -opws exoyn zhthsei- kai pws krinei h kybernhsh tis episkeceis poy exoyn sxediazei na kanoyn sth dytikh Qrakh;

REPPAS: Opoiosdhpote poliths mporei na episkefqei thn Ellada, efoson diaqetei ta aparaithta nomima eggrafa. Eiserxomenos nomimws kai paramenwn sthn Ellada drasthriopoioymenos kata nomo, mporei, bebaiws, na zhsei edw konta mas kai na diapistwsei oti h Ellada einai mia dhmokratikh, sygxronh eyrwpaikh xwra. Qema synanthshs me ton Prwqypoyrgo den tiqetai.

GEROPOYLOS: Xqes, o Proedros ths Anejarthths Arxhs Proswpikwn Dedomenwn k. Dafermos, se radiofwnikh ekpomph, eipe oti meta to qema toy qrhskeymatos, oson afora tis taytothtes, qa prepei na syzhthqei, kai to ean qa prepei na anagrafetai h yphkoothta stis taytothtes; Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: O nomos toy 1997, gia ta kaloymena eyaisqhta proswpika dedomena, afora synolo stoixeiwn kai oxi mono th qrhskeytikh pepoiqhsh twn politwn. Apo thn prwth stigmh eipa -kai me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas epanalambanw- oti h epilogh ayth den afora mono thn taytothta, afora kaqe dhmosio eggrafo. Kai den afora mono to qrhskeyma. Afora ola ta legomena ``proswpika dedomena'' poy einai eyaisqhta, tis pepoiqhseis, ta fronhmata twn politwn, poy den prepei na dhmosiopoioyntai gia eynohtoys logoys.

SOYRMELH: Eipate prohgoymenws oti ``ayto den qa perasei etsi'', sxetika me toys bandalismoys sto ebraiko nekrotafeio. Prin apo merikes hmeres eginan bandalismoi sto mnhmeio toy olokaytwmatos sth Qessalonikh kai eixe ypografh ths ``xryshs ayghs''. Ti egine me aytes tis ereynes; Giati den egine tipota h toylaxiston den maqame tipota. Synelhfqh kapoios apo aytoys; Proxqes, epishs, sto thleoptiko kanali poy dieyqynei o k. Karatzaferhs, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke epiqesh, na pei ti einai kai pws einai; Kai o k. Ebert, epishs, dexqhke epiqesh. Eipate tipota, yphrje kapoia antidrash;

REPPAS: H erwthsh sas poia einai;

SOYRMELH: An eixate kapoia antidrash se ola ayta;

REPPAS: Ekfrasame thn antidrash mas, oson afora ta epeisodia poy eginan sth Qessalonikh, me apanthsh mas se sxetikh erwthsh, oson afora thn epiqesh sto spiti ths Melinas Merkoyrh kai toy Ntasen. Kai shmera kaname sxetikh dhlwsh.

SOYRMELH: Zhtw na maqw ean eginan sygkekrimenes ereynes;

REPPAS: Oi ereynes einai se ejelijh. Oi armodies arxes asxoloyntai me to qema, to eipa ayto. An exei syllhfqei kapoios h an exoyn apodoqei eyqynes, me thn ennoia oti diapistwqhke poios einai o ypaitios, ayto den exei ginei mexri twra.

SOYRMELH: Ma, otan yparxei epiqesh enantion sygkekrimenwn proswpwn, poy kalliergeitai ayto to klima, den prepei na ginei kapoia koybenta, en pash periptwsei. Dhladh, pws jekinaei;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti sthn Ellada diwkontai oi paranomes prajeis. Den diwkontai oi pepoiqhseis. Kaqe paranomh prajh patassetai kai, bebaiws, ginetai ereyna gia na apokalyfqoyn poioi einai oi ypaitioi gia tetoioy eidoys bandalismoys.

SOYRMELH: Oi prohgoymenoi bandalismoi eginan prin apo eikosipente hmeres.

REPPAS: Qelete na peite oti den einai apotelesmatikes oi armodies arxes. Mporw na symfwnhsw mazi sas, alla den qa dexqw to yponooymeno sas, oti yparxei mia ``xalarh antimetwpish'' aytoy toy fainomenoy, apo tis armodies kratikes yphresies. Kaqe allo.

ARGYROS: Akoysthke to epixeirhma oti, prwton, ean h kybernhsh eixe labei qesh prin apo tis ekloges gia to qema ths mh anagrafhs toy qrhskeymatos stis taytothtes, to apotelesma qa htan diaforetiko kai, deyteron, yparxei mia plhroforia oti den qa ekdoqei neos typos taytothtas, se dyo mhnes opws eixate pei, alla stis sygkekrimenes endeijeis apla den qa anagrafetai to qrhskeyma.

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas exw apanthsei tis prohgoymenes hmeres. Oson afora to prwto paramenw sta osa eipa apantwntas se erwthsh synadelfoy sas.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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