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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Aprilioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete, eisagwgika, na kanw ena sxolio. Meta thn chfo empistosynhs pros thn kybernhsh, jekina mia nea periodos politikhs staqerothtas, oikonomikhs anaptyjhs kai koinwnikhs eyhmerias. H kybernhsh mas, me stereh kai isxyrh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia, me programma makras pnohs, me orizonta tetraetias, synexizei to ergo ths. H kybernhsh mas niwqei dikaiwmenh gia ta apotelesmata kai thn anagnwrish ths mexri twra prospaqeias ths. Kyriws, omws, niwqei ypoxrewmenh na antapokriqei stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy kai qa antapokriqei.

Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos syzhta, shmera, qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Einai se ejelijh ayth h syzhthsh. Meta thn enarjh twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias ths Boylhs, meta to Pasxa, to qema ayto tiqetai, pleon, sthn hmerhsia diatajh. Ola ayta ta qemata, loipon, qa ta syzhthsoyme en kairw. Gnwrizete oti h anaqewrhsh apotelei kyria koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, koryfaia bebaiws, alla einai antikeimeno, einai ergo ths Boylhs, twn politikwn kommatwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

FILHS: Qa qelate na mas dwsete mia geysh twn skecewn, toy programmatismoy -ginetai, bebaiws, sth Boylh, alla poy afora kai to kybernhtiko ergo, se kapoio baqmo h toylaxiston stelexh ths kybernhtikhs pleyras p.x. ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs.- sxetika me thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos; Poia einai h skech sas; Pote qa teleiwsei h anaqewrhsh; Prin kleisei h Boylh, qa synexistei to fqinopwro;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, oi protaseis twn kommatwn, oson afora to qema ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos, exoyn katateqei kai einai gnwstes. Gnwrizete oti sthn prwth fash exoyn apofasistei, me tis problepomenes apo to Syntagma pleiochfies, diafores ryqmiseis oi opoies qa syzhthqoyn sth Boylh poy proekyce meta tis prosfates ekloges. Kai bebaiws, qa lhfqoyn telikes apofaseis, efoson ejasfalistoyn oi problepomenes apo to Syntagma pleiochfies. H protash ths kybernhshs einai h syzhthsh -opws problepetai, allwste, apo to Syntagma- na ginei me thn enarjh twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias. Yparxei synennohsh twn politikwn kommatwn, prokeimenoy na breqei h diadikasia, sthn opoia oloi symfwnoyn, gia thn oloklhrwsh twn ergasiwn syzhthshs epi twn diatajewn toy Syntagmatos. Qeloyme, to syntomotero dynato, na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. Omws, einai qema to opoio afora to synolo twn politikwn kommatwn poy symmetexoyn sth Boylh. Pisteyoyme oti, opws problepei kai to Syntagma, sthn prwth synodo ths neas koinoboyleytikhs periodoy qa prepei na jekinhsei ayth h diadikasia.

FILHS: Sygnwmh poy epimenw ligo. Den jerw an dieykrinistoyn, meta th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys armodioys ...

REPPAS: Ti na dieykrinistei akribws;

FILHS: An yparxei, kat` arxhn, ena xronodiagramma poy na exei sto myalo ths h kybernhsh me ton Proedro ths Boylhs. An yparxei kapoia synennohsh.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h syzhthsh ayth jekina sthn prwth synodo, meta thn enarjh twn ergasiwn ths Olomeleias kai qeloyme na oloklhrwqei me th symfwnh gnwmh olwn twn kommatwn, to syntomotero dynato.

FILHS: Antimetwpizete to endexomeno na parataqoyn oi diadikasies leitoyrgias ths Olomeleias ths Boylhs to kalokairi;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti ta qemata ayta syzhtoyntai sthn Olomeleia, opws epishs gnwrizete pws yparxei to istoriko prohgoymeno ths Boylhs, poy proekyce meta tis ekloges toy @85. Htan kai tote anaqewrhtikh h Boylh kai sygkrothse Epitroph, h opoia antimetwpise ta sxetika qemata. Ola ayta ta diadikastika zhthmata apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthshs metajy twn politikwn kommatwn.

ARGYROS: Yparxei skech gia allages proswpwn ston Organismo toy 2004; Rwtw, epeidh ginontai kapoies synanthseis aytes tis hmeres, kai an exei dexqei eishghsh o Prwqypoyrgos.

Kai ena deytero: Ean o Prwqypoyrgos exei diamhnysei pros thn Epitroph Ajiologhshs Stelexwn, oti qa hqele na ajiopoihqoyn oi apotyxontes boyleytes.

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto qema, kati tetoio den exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh.

Oson afora to deytero qema, o Prwqypoyrgos den exei diamhnysei otidhpote sthn armodia Epitroph. Oi ypoyrgoi einai aytoi oi opoioi eishgoyntai ston Prwqypoyrgo kai h Epitroph poy exei sygkrothqei, lambanei ypoch ths th diaqesh poy ekfrazetai apo polla stelexh, prokeimenoy na ajiopoihqoyn se diaforoys tomeis. Ton teliko logo, omws, ton exei o armodios ypoyrgos, meta apo synennohsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto to prwto poy eipate, k. Ypoyrge. Eipate oti den yparxei qema allaghs proswpwn sthn Epitroph Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

REPPAS: Apanthsa. Eipa oti den mas exei apasxolhsei tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Mpakoyrhs, giati den eklhqh tote kai eklhqh o k. Qwmopoylos; O kyrioteros einai aytos. O Dieyqynwn Symboylos kinei ola ta nhmata.

REPPAS: Exoyn ginei kai alles synanthseis, toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Mpakoyrh, opoy den htan parwn o k. Qwmopoylos. Mh bgazete symperasmata. Allwste, kai o k. Qwmopoylos, dexomenos sxetikh erwthsh, edwse analogh apanthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios einai ypeyqynos gia ta erga twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn; Yparxei kapoios ypeyqynos; Giati o k. Laliwths leei oti ``egw exw tessera erga''. O k. Pagkalos leei ``egw den exw idea. Sto YPEXWDE''. Yparxei kanenas armodios;

REPPAS: H Organwtikh Epitroph exei sygkekrimenes armodiothtes, opws kai oi ypoyrgoi. Analogws twn armodiothtwn toy o kaqenas empleketai se ayth th diadikasia proetoimasias ths diorganwshs ths Olympiadas toy 2004. O ypoyrgos Politismoy exei thn epopteia gia ta qemata poy aforoyn thn Olympiada toy 2004. O ypoyrgos PEXWDE einai aytos o opoios exei ton kyrio logo, oson afora ta erga ta opoia prepei na kataskeyastoyn gia th diorganwsh ths Olympiadas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O ypoyrgos PEXWDE eipe oti mono gia tessera-pente erga. ``Egw tipote allo den exw apo ayta'', eipe.

REPPAS: Ola ayta exoyn apanthqei. Allwste, prepei na sas pw, oson afora ta erga aqlhtikhs ypodomhs, oti exoyn proxwrhsei ikanopoihtika. Sto megalytero pososto toys exoyn ginei oi aqlhtikes ypodomes, se o,ti afora thn Olympiada, bebaiws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Samarangk, den to jerei;

REPPAS: Yparxoyn alla qemata. Na jerete oti ta erga h oi aqlhtikes ypodomes einai ena mikro pososto ths proetoimasias poy prepei na ginei gia thn Olympiada. Yparxoyn alla qemata ta opoia, epishs, prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Qa enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas gia na eimaste synepeis kai mesa sto xronodiagramma to opoio exoyme ejaggeilei, eyqys ejarxhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa ginei ypoyrgeio Olympiakwn Agwnwn;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h kybernhsh.

KALARITHS: Logw ths stenothtas toy xronoy poy profanws yparxei, h apeyqeias anaqesh twn ergwn apotelei enallaktikh skech; Orismenwn ergwn;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h kybernhsh. Exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, se oloys toys tonoys, toso h kybernhsh, oso kai h Organwtikh Epitroph, oti oi diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntai h qa akoloyqhqoyn kai sth synexeia, qa einai diadikasies apolytws diafaneis, wste na mh doqei h dynatothta se opoiondhpote kakopisto na diatypwsei kritikh, gia tetoioy eidoys qemata, pros thn kybernhsh h thn Organwtikh Epitroph.

FILHS: H apeyqeias anaqesh den einai diafanhs;

REPPAS: Stis diadikasies poy qa akoloyqhqoyn, qa thrhqoyn oi kanones ths nomimothtas, kai ths diafaneias. Gia ta agaqa ayta endiaferetai prwtistws h kybernhsh.

FILHS: H apeyqeias diadikasia einai nomimh. Alla, einai diafanhs;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti, toso ta armodia kybernhtika organa, oso kai h Organwtikh Epitroph, qa eggyhqoyn thn eggyhsh twn kanonwn nomimothtas kai diafaneias. Milhsa kai gia diafaneia. Hmoyn safhs s` ayto.

FILHS: Apanthste moy sygkekrimena. Kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs@

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den antimetwpise tetoio qema. Giati qelete na kanete mia ypoqetikh erwthsh; Exete ypoch sas kati sygkekrimeno;

FILHS: Exei ginei apeyqeias anaqesh ergwn apo thn kybernhsh@

REPPAS: Exete ypoch sas kati sygkekrimeno na rwthsete, parakalw; Na mas peite mia periptwsh, gia na doyme ean pragmatika thrhqhkan oi kanones ths nomimothtas kai ths diafaneias.

FILHS: Sas zhtw na moy apanthsete, se sxesh me ta olympiaka erga, alla kai genikotera, ean h kybernhsh qewrei oti h diadikasia ths apeyqeias anaqeshs ergwn, nomimh bebaiws, den einai paranomh, plhroi, kata tekmhrio, toys kanones ths diafaneias;

REPPAS: Qa akoloyqhqoyn oles oi diadikasies, oi opoies qa diasfalisoyn to rolo ths diafaneias, gia na mh doqei h dynatothta se opoiondhpote, ton pleon kakopisto, na askhsei kritikh gi ayta ta qemata.

EYSTAQIOY: H proqesh ths kybernhshs, opws ejaggelqhke xqes dia stomatos ths armodias ypoyrgoy kas Papandreoy, gia enarjh ths syzhthshs gia ton eklogiko nomo, einai na ginei ayto amesa, wste na prolaboyme thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos h na ginei meta;

REPPAS: Proebh se dhlwseis h armodia ypoyrgos. Eipe oti qa arxisei syntoma aytos o dialogos me dikh ths prwtoboylia. Qa anamenoyme na jekinhsei o dialogos gia na syzhthsoyme ta synafh qemata. Mexri tote den exoyme na prosqesoyme tipote allo.

EYSTAQIOY: Ayrio, o Prwqypoyrgos me synarmodioys ypoyrgoys exei syskech gia ta erga ths Olympiadas 2004;

REPPAS: Toylaxiston, sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mexri twra, kati tetoio den exei programmatistei.

EYSTAQIOY: Mhpws, olh ayth h syzhthsh gia ta problhmata kai ta proskommata gia thn Olympiada, einai mia kalh eykairia gia na epanejetasoyme thn idea ths analhchs, wste na mhn ginoyn oi Olympiakoi Agwnes;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizoyme, oyte kata dianoia, tetoio endexomeno. H diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai eqnikh ypoqesh. H analhch ayths ths diorganwshs apoteloyse diakah poqo ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias twn Ellhnwn. Qa proxwrhsoyme sth diorganwsh mias artias Olympiadas.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Akoysa xqes ton Prwqypoyrgo, se dhlwsh toy meta thn chfish twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn, na mila gia ejantlhsh ths 4etias, kati poy epanalabate ki eseis shmera. Qelw na rwthsw giati epanalambanete, 20 hmeres meta tis ekloges, kati to opoio qewreitai aytonohto;

REPPAS: Afoy einai aytonohto, giati sas kanei entypwsh;

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Giati to epanalambanete gi ayto rwtaw.

REPPAS: Den epanalambanw. Kanw mia politikh dhlwsh. Den prepei, sto plaisIo mias politikhs dhlwshs na symperilabw kai stoixeia, ta opoia dhlwnoyn ton orizonta ths kybernhshs;

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Ma, to jeroyme ayto, gi ayto sas rwtw; Moy kanei entypwsh.

REPPAS: Epeidh akribws to jerete, to epanalambanw. Den xwra opoiodhpote allo politiko sxolio sto shmeio ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, epeidh den exete ejantlhsei pote tetraetia, gi ayto to lete;

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Gnwrizete oti ayth h kybernhsh poy yposthrixthke apo to PASOK, kalyce oles tis synodoys kaqe koinoboyleytikhs periodoy. Se kaqe koinoboyleytikh periodo exoyme tesseris synodoys. Loipon, mh bgazete ayto to symperasma. Oles oi kybernhseis toy PASOK htan tessarwn etwn.

EYSTAQIOY: Qa ejantlhsei thn tetraetia@

REPPAS: Egw den milhsa gia ejantlhsh ths tetraetias. Eipa gia mia tetraetia. Tessera xronia einai mia koinoboyleytikh periodos, einai tesseris synodoi ths Boylhs.

KWSTANTINIDHS: O Toyrkos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Tzem kai o Arxhgos twn toyrkikwn enoplwn dynamewn k. Kibrikogloy se dhlwseis toys afhnoyn na ennohqei gia dimerh mellontiko dialogo, se qemata Aigaioy, ta opoia gnwrizei kai o k. Papandreoy -opws fainetai- arnoymenoi oti yparxei mono ena qema, to qema ths yfalokrhpidas, to opoio synexws tonizei h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Pws apantate;

REPPAS: Dialogos kai epikoinwnia metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias exei diejaxqei. Malista, exoyme proxwrhsei se synach ennea symfwniwn kai h syzhthsh gia thn efarmogh aytwn twn symfwniwn qa synexistei. Apo kei kai pera, to plaisio twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn kai twn sxesewn ths Toyrkias me thn E.E. perilambanetai stis apofaseis ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki. Ekei, metajy twn allwn, anaferetai pws ta opoia qemata qewrei kapoia xwra oti prepei na antimetwpistoyn, qa antimetwpistoyn me eirhnikh diadikasia, xwris th xrhsh bias h thn apeilh xrhshs bias. Bebaiws, ta qemata ayta antimetwpizontai me thn ajiopoihsh twn diadikasiwn toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs. Kata th dikh mas apoch, ena qema yparxei, ws problhma, metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias kai afora thn yfalokrhpida. To qema ayto mporei na antimetwpistei mesw toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs. H Toyrkia exei to plaisio entos toy opoioy prepei na kinhqei, exei analabei sygkekrimenes desmeyseis me thn apofash poy elhfqh prosfata sto Elsinki. Kata ta alla, pisteyoyme oti h proseggish metajy twn dyo xwrwn apotelei epilogh twn dyo kybernhsewn kai bebaiws twn dyo lawn. Gi ayto akribws pisteyoyme pws mporei na exei qetikh ejelijh. Den yparxei opoiodhpote allo problhma, to opoio -kata th dikh mas apoch- prepei na antimetwpistei. An h Toyrkia qewrei oti yparxoyn qemata, yparxei diadikasia, yparxei to plaisio entos toy opoioy ofeilei na kinhqei gia na ejetasei ayta ta qemata.

FILHS: O Episkopos h Arxiepiskopos toy Kossyfopedioy Artemios, xqes, egine dektos apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy kai dhlwse o k. Artemios oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh bohqa ayton kai toys ypoloipoys paragontes poy mazeythkan sto Kaboyri, prin liges hmeres, ston agwna gia na pesei o Milosebits. Qa hqela na rwthsw me poion tropo bohqa h ellhnikh kybernhsh, thn oytws kaloymenh serbikh antipoliteysh me ton tews kai toys eqnikistes Serboys kai alloys politikoys hgetes, na rijoyn ton Milosebits;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh den empleketai sta eswterika ths Gioygkoslabias. H ellhnikh kybernhsh diathrei anoiktoys diayloys me oles tis dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias. Ayto epiballei to eqniko symferon, ayto apaitei, allwste, h prospaqeia poy kanoyme prokeimenoy na bohqhsoyme sthn apolyth ejomalynsh ths katastashs sth Gioygkoslabia. Exoyme epafh kai me toys ekklhsiastikoys paragontes sto Kossyfopedio kai alloys paragontes ths Serbias, giati pisteyoyme oti diadramatizoyn shmantiko rolo sthn prospaqeia na parameinei o serbikos plhqysmos sto Kossyfopedio. H Ekklhsia, paizei se ayth thn kateyqynsh, poly shmantiko rolo. Emeis epiqymoyme oi Serboi na parameinoyn sto Kossyfopedio, na parameinoyn stis patrogonikes esties toys. Me ayth thn ennoia, exoyme kaqe logo na symporeytoyme me tis dynameis ekeines, opws einai kai h Ekklhsia toy Kossyfopedioy, poy exoyn ton idio stoxo. Kata ta alla, epanalambanw, oti oi sxeseis mas me oloys sth geitonikh xwra einai eilikrineis, einai sxeseis synergasias, sxeseis oi opoies den exoyn kamia allh epidiwjh para mono na breqei mia lysh sthn kateyqynsh twn dhmokratikwn ejelijewn sth Gioygkoslabia. Epiqymoyme na leitoyrgei h dhmokratia sth geitonikh xwra, na ekfrazontai eleyqera oles oi apoceis kai oles oi dynameis na exoyn th dynatothta na anadeiknyoyn tis apoceis toys kai na symballoyn sthn ejeyresh lyshs. Emeis exoyme epikoinwnia me thn kybernhsh toy k. Milosebits. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy exei syxnh epikoinwnia me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Gioygkoslabias. Epishs, exoyme epikoinwnia me hgetes, paragontes poy den anhkoyn sthn kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias, anhkoyn sta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, se mh kybernhtikes organwseis ths Gioygkoslabias. Den einai h prwth fora poy ginontai tetoies synanthseis toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas me analogoys paragontes. Antilambaneste poly kala, pws an qeloyme na diadramatisoyme ena shmantiko rolo sthn perioxh, o rolos aytos qa prepei na ekdhlwnetai me diafores tetoies prwtoboylies. Den prepei na eimaste apontes. Oi prwtoboylies aytes ekei katateinoyn.

FILHS: Ti qa apanthsete sto diabhma toy Beligradioy;

REPPAS: Pragmati, o Ellhnas presbhs eklhqh sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, sto Beligradi, opoy toy diatypwqhke h enstash h egine diabhma apo pleyras ths gioygkoslabikhs kybernhshs, me ton isxyrismo oti h Ellada einai ayth h opoia diorganwse thn prosfath synanthsh ajiwmatoyxwn kai allwn paragontwn ths Gioygkoslabias. H apanthsh poy dinoyme einai oti h Ellada, oson afora th diorganwsh ayths ths ekdhlwshs den exei kamia emplokh, kamia eyqynh kai den anelabe kamia prwtoboylia. H Ellada, opws kai sto parelqon, etsi kai twra, etsi kai sto mellon, diathrei anoiktoys diayloys me diaforoys paragontes ths politikhs zwhs kai alloys paragontes ths Gioygkoslabias kai ayto qa synexisei na kanei, giati ayto epiballei to symferon kai ths Gioygkoslabias, doqentos oti o rolos ths Elladas einai rolos qetikos, gia na ejeyreqei mia telikh lysh sto gioygkoslabiko qema.

EYSTAQIOY: Epitrecte moy ep` aytoy, epeidh anoijame ayth th syzhthsh.

To prwto, ean qa ekproswphqei h kybernhsh sthn apocinh dejiwsh poy diorganwnei o Gioygkoslabos presbeyths k. Boykisebits, gia thn eqnikh giorth ths xwras toy, kai se poio epipedo;

Kai deyteron, ta osa yposthrizete gia na yparjei lysh sthn kateyqynsh twn dhmokratikwn ejelijewn, ean isxyoyn mono gia th Gioygkoslabia h genikotera gia oles tis xwres. P.x. otan hlqe o Proedros ths Kinas, an eipate ta idia kai ston Proedro ths Kinas, ton k. Zemin.

REPPAS: Sto plaisio twn synomiliwn poy eixe h hgesia ths xwras mas kai me ton Proedro ths Kinas, syzhthqhkan analoga qemata. Gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei sxetikes dhlwseis.

Oson afora thn ekdhlwsh sth gioygkoslabikh Presbeia, h Ellada asfalws exei filikes sxeseis me th Gioygkoslabia kai diathrei synexh epafh. Asfalws, qa ekproswphqei, opws egine kai sto parelqon.

Sas eyxaristw.

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