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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Aprilioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete na anaferqw sth shmerinh hmera. To istoriko fortio ths shmerinhs hmeras epiballei na qymhqoyme, na didaxqoyme, alla kyriws na ergastoyme gia ena kalytero mellon. Polites kai politika kommata exoyn symballei sthn empedwsh twn dhmokratikwn koinoboyleytikwn qesmwn sthn patrida mas. Oloi oi Ellhnes, me omocyxia, synennohsh kai synainesh qa yperaspistoyme ta eqnika symferonta kai qa ergastoyme gia thn koinwnikh proodo.

Epishs, qa prepei na ekfrasoyme kai pali, apo th qesh ayth, ta sygxarhthria mas, me aformh th megalh epityxia ths omadas Mpasket toy Panaqhnaikoy poy katekthse ton eyrwpaiko titlo. Exei eqnikh diastash ayth h epityxia. Pisteyw oti h syllogikh prospaqeia kai h peiqarxia, to fronhma, h empneysh twn paiktwn kai twn allwn paragontwn ths omadas toy Panaqhnaikoy apotelesan ta ylika, me ta opoia xtisthke ayth h omada poy gnwrizei diakriseis. Eyxomaste oles oi ellhnikes omades, kaqe mia sto diko ths aqlhma, na prwtoporei kai na diakrinetai dieqnws.

Qa moy epitrecete, telos, prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, na sas enhmerwsw oti h ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Basw Papandreoy, anaferomenh se qema to opoio syzhthqhke thn teleytaia periodo, edwse sth dhmosiothta syntriptika stoixeia, ta opoia einai apostomwtika kai gia ton pleon kakopisto, stoixeia poy exoyn sxesh me tis atekmhriwtes kataggelies kai toys ceydeis isxyrismoys meridas toy Typoy kai kyklwn ths N.D. peri dhqen noqeias sthn prosfath eklogikh anametrhsh. Elpizw, meta thn anakoinwsh aytwn twn syntriptikwn, apostomwtikwn stoixeiwn apo thn ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, oi kykloi ths N.D., oi opoioi enqarrynan ayth th farsokwmwdia kai epaijan ayto to paixnidi gia arketes hmeres, na synaisqanqoyn to xreos toys kai na antimetwpizoyn toso sobara qesmika kai politika zhthmata me megalyterh ypeyqynothta.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: H k. Papandreoy den eipe mono ayta. Eipe kai kati allo, poly pio shmantiko, kata thn ektimhsh moy. Pote, loipon, problepetai na jekinhsei h diadikasia allaghs toy eklogikoy nomoy; H idia to anoije me th diatypwsh ths.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, h k. Papandreoy, anaferomenh sto qema ayto, htan poly safhs. Eipe oti einai diateqeimenh na jekinhsei enas dialogos gyrw apo qemata poy aforoyn to eklogiko systhma, alla bebaiws den desmeyqhke oyte gia to xronodiagramma, oyte gia ta apotelesmata aytoy toy dialogoy. Den shmainei oti qa yparjei opwsdhpote allagh, efoson den yparjoyn oi proypoqeseis pros toyto. Kai bebaiws, o xronikos orizontas paramenei anoiktos.

MIXAHL: O dialogos, proypoqetei ena xroniko shmeio enarjhs. H k. Papandreoy, opws eqese to qema, emeina me thn entypwsh oti mporei na jekinhsei o dialogos kai amesa. Dhladh, an kapoio komma pei ayrio to prwi ``wraia, elate na syzhthsoyme'' eiste etoimoi na syzhthsete.

REPPAS: H k. Papandreoy htan poly safhs sth dhlwsh poy ekane. Otan h idia qewrhsei oti yparxoyn oi analoges proypoqeseis, qa qesei ayto to qema pros dhmosia syzhthsh metajy twn kommatikwn forewn.

MIXAHL: Poies mporei na einai aytes oi proypoqeseis;

REPPAS: Einai qema to opoio xeirizetai h armodia ypoyrgos.

MIXAHL: Kybernhtikh apoch epi toy qematos yparxei;

REPPAS: Kybernhtikh apoch ekfrazei h armodia ypoyrgos.

MIXAHL: Oxi, allo rwtw@

REPPAS: Eseis qelete na arxisei o dialogos twra, ayth th stigmh. Na syzhthsoyme epi ths oysias, pleon.

MIXAHL: Oxi, prospaqw na katalabw, ean@

REPPAS: Egw exw katalabei, omws, ti qelete eseis na ginei. Eseis qelete na jekinhsei o dialogos twra. Qelete na mpoyme epi ths oysias.

MIXAHL: Den qelw ayto. Qelw na sas rwthsw, poly apla, to ejhs: An eseis, ws kybernhsh, exete katalhjei se ena plaisio proypoqesewn kai eyelpisteite oti qa ekplhrwqei gia na jekinhsei.

REPPAS: Ta qemata ayta ta xeirizetai h armodia ypoyrgos. Apanthsa se ayto.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Prin apo thn erwthsh moy, mia parathrhsh: H eisagwgikh sas dhlwsh einai apanthsh sth N.D. h se kykloys proskeimenoys sth N.D.; Giati epishmws h N.D. den eipe kati analogo gia to opoio kanete logo eseis.

REPPAS: Den exei pei epishmws kati analogo, gi` ayto kai milw gia kykloys ths N.D. Apo thn allh, omws, epishmws h N.D. threi siwph, h opoia mporei na kriqei ws enoxh siwph gi` ayto to qema.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Malista. H erwthsh moy twra. Kata to parelqon eixe anaferqei to onoma ths k. Aggelopoyloy kai h idia eixe epafes, toso me ton Prwqypoyrgo, oso kai ton k. Pagkalo. Twra poy odhghqhkan ta pragmata se ayto to shmeio, wste na dexqoyme thn prasinh karta apo ton Samaragk, skeftetai h kybernhsh na thn kalesei kai na ths dwsei kapoia armodiothta;

REPPAS: Xairomai poy milhsate ``gia prasinh karta'', estw kai ek paradromhs, giati pragmati edw sthn Ellada o laos apofasise na zoyme sto prasino! Anqei to prasino sthn Ellada. Einai prosfath, allwste, h etymhgoria toy ellhnikoy laoy. Oson afora thn proetoimasia ths diorganwshs ths Olympiadas toy 2004, h kybernhsh exei kanei terastia prospaqeia kai ayto einai gnwsto. Asfalws, prepei na antimetwpisoyme problhmata ta opoia yparxoyn. Qa eimaste synepeis stis ypoxrewseis poy exoyme analabei. Entos toy xronodiagrammatos qa exoyme oloklhrwsei, apo th dikh mas pleyra, to ergo to opoio einai aparaithto, prokeimenoy na diejaxqei mia artia Olympiada. Den exei antimetwpisei h kybernhsh qemata allagwn se epipedo leitoyrgiwn h proswpwn. Einai kati poy den mas exei apasxolhsei.

KARELIAS: Qa ginoyn allages sthn organwtikh domh ths Olympiadas 2004 kai an qa allajoyn proswpa;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti to qema ayto den mas exei apasxolhsei. Sas parapempw, allwste, giati htan safeis oi dhlwseis poy eginan, stoys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Gnwrizete oti shmera egine syskech, sthn opoia symmeteixan o ypoyrgos PEXWDE Kwstas Laliwths kai o ypoyrgos Politismoy Qeodwros Pagkalos. Meta th syskech eginan sxetikes dhlwseis oi opoies, metajy twn allwn, anaferontai kai se ayto to qema. To nohma aytwn twn dhlwsewn epanelaba molis prin.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pros ti tote oi synanthseis ths kas Aggelopoyloy me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai to Qeodwro Pagkalo. Ti syzhthsan; Htan eqimotypikes, htan kosmikes, htan@

REPPAS: Den fantazomai na qewreite pws prepei na proxwrhsoyme se apagoreysh twn synanthsewn h twn syzhthsewn metajy politwn ths xwras mas, poy bebaiws exoyn, kata kairoys, diafores idiothtes kai einai gnwstes enos antikeimenoy. Apo kei kai pera kaqe tetoia synanthsh den shmainei oti odhgei aparaithtws se ena apotelesma san ayto to opoio eseis yponoeite me thn erwthsh sas. Synanthseis ginontan, ginontai kai qa ginontai panta.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Apanthsh perimena@

REPPAS: Apanthsa oson afora to qema twn allagwn kai sas parepemca kai stis dhlwseis poy ekane o ypoyrgos Politismoy k. Pagkalos.

MOYRTZHS: Ektos apo anoiktoys diagwnismoys gia ta erga ths Olympiadas meletate kai apeyqeias anaqeseis gia na eiste synepeis sto xronodiagramma;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh endiaferetai oxi mono gia thn artia diorganwsh ayths ths Olympiadas, alla kai gia thn thrhsh me eylabeia olwn twn diadikasiwn, wste me nomimothta kai diafaneia na fqasoyme sthn oloklhrwsh toy ergoy poy prepei na kanoyme, gia th diejagwgh ths Olympiadas toy 2004. Allwste, h qesh ayth apeikonizetai stis prospaqeies poy eginan mexri twra, sto ergo poy exei ginei kai einai poly shmantiko. Ston kataskeyastiko tomea exoyme pragmatika mia poly ikanopoihtikh proodo kai anaferomai se ena mono paradeigma. H idia h Organwtikh Epitroph se anakoinwsh ths anaferetai kai pali se ayta ta agaqa, dhlwnontas oti h idia qa proaspisei th nomimothta kai th diafaneia, oson afora tis diadikasies poy prepei na akoloyqhqoyn, prokeimenoy na organwsoyme thn Olympiada toy 2004.

MOYRTZHS: Den moy apanthsate epi ths oysias. Qa hqela na maqw pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti shmera oi metoxes twn kataskeyastikwn etaireiwn epiasan to zeniq;

REPPAS: Den qa sxoliasw ta eswterika ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Ayto to opoio mporw na pw einai oti h prospaqeia poy exoyme kanei kai h proetoimasia mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004, qa synexistei me pio entatikoys ryqmoys. Qa exoyme ta kalytera apotelesmata. Einai bebaio oti h Olympiada toy 2004 qa stefqei me apolyth epityxia.

KARELIAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelete na mas peite pws blepei h kybernhsh th synanthsh twn ekproswpwn ths serbikhs antipoliteysh poy ginetai sthn Aqhna;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti synantwntai sthn Aqhna, ekproswpoi kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs kai ekproswpoi mh kybernhtikwn organwsewn. H synanthsh ayth den ginetai ypo thn aigida ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Qa elega me megalyterh akribeia oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei opoiadhpote emplokh se ayth th synanthsh. Sth xwra mas yparxei dhmokratia. Polites allwn xwrwn, oi opoioi nomima exoyn eiselqei sth xwra mas mporoyn na synerxontai, na syzhtoyn kai na antallassoyn apoceis. Den qewroyme oti ayth h drasthriothta einai paranomh, xwris na yioqetoyme ta opoia porismata ejagoyn.

KARELIAS: Den exei h kybernhsh kamia emplokh;

REPPAS: Kamia.

KARELIAS: Qa hqela na moy sxoliasete giati enas symboylos toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, milwntas shmera se ayth th synanthsh, apokaloyse, ton k. Karagiwrgh, diekdikhth toy qronoy, ``ychlotato'' kai ``megaleiotato'';

REPPAS: Einai leptomereia poy den gnwrizw. Prepei na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Opoios ekproswpos toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn piqanws symmeteixe se tetoies synanthseis -an symmeteixe me thn idiothta toy ekproswpoy toy ypoyrgeioy- afenos, qa kinhqhke asfalws entos toy plaisioy twn armodiothtwn toy kai afeteroy qa milhse kai qa aneptyje tis opoies qeseis me bash thn politikh poy akoloyqei h xwra mas gia ta qemata ta opoia apasxolhsan ayth th synanthsh, meta thn prosfath krish sth Gioygkoslabia.

KAPPOS: H kybernhsh qewrei eytyxh ton eayto ths giati oi dhlwseis Samaragk eginan meta tis ekloges;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh qewrei eytyxh ton eayto ths giati synexizei gia mia nea tetraeth qhteia to ergo ths, me nwph thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy. H kybernhsh einai eytyxhs, giati me thn prospaqeia poy kaname h xwra mas anelabe th diorganwsh ths Olympiadas toy 2004. Epishs, h xwra mas einai eytyxhs, giati anagnwrizetai h prospaqeia poy kaname gia na proetoimasoyme ayth thn Olympiada. Exoyme dhmioyrghsei oles tis proypoqeseis, prokeimenoy mexri to telos toy xronoy na kalycoyme ta opoia kena, ta opoia problhmata yparxoyn kai na eimaste apolytws synepeis stis ypoxrewseis poy exoyme analabei. Den yparxei opoiodhpote allo qema.

KARGOYDH: O k. Pagkalos, otan anelabe to ypoyrgeio Politismoy, eixe pei oti h Olympiada einai ypoqesh aytoy toy ypoyrgeioy, kai qa thn analaboyme. Shmera synanthqhke me ton k. Laliwth gia qemata armodiothtwn twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn, poy exoyn na kanoyn me th diorganwsh ths Olympiadas. Hqela na rwthsw ean o k. Pagkalos analambanei apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, thn kentrikh eyqynh ths Olympiadas;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o ypoyrgos Politismoy exei thn epopteia, ws armodios kybernhtikos paragontas, epi twn qematwn ths Olympiadas. Apo kei kai pera, exoyn dhmioyrghqei organwtika sxhmata, ta opoia exoyn diafores armodiothtes. Den allazei tipota ws pros ayto. Den mas exei apasxolhsei otidhpote afora to organwtiko sxhma, to opoio exoyme epilejei kai leitoyrgei mexri twra, eite se epipedo kybernhshs, eite se epipedo koinwnikwn forewn.

KAPPOS: Xqes to apogeyma, ejw apo jenodoxeio, poy ginotan mia ellhnotoyrkikh ekdhlwsh, eginan kapoia epeisodia. Pws sxoliazete ayto to gegonos;

REPPAS: Apodokimazoyme aytes tis symperifores, oi opoies oxi mono den prowqoyn to eqniko symferon, alla pisteyoyme oti blaptoyn kai thn eikona ths xwras. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me ta aisqhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy. Ta eqnika symbola olwn twn xwrwn prepei na ginontai sebasta. Oi shmaies twn xwrwn prepei na ginontai sebastes kai na apodidontai oi deoyses times. Apo kei kai pera, kaqe allo, para yphretoyn ta eqnika symferonta, opoioi symperiferontai me ayton ton tropo.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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