Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-04-19

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Aprilioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Arxikws, qelw na ekfrasw ek meroys ths kybernhshs ta syllyphthria mas gia to qanato toy Hraklh Tzaqa, enos agwnisth ths dhmokratias kai maxhth ths dhmosiografias. Timhse to leitoyrghma sas kai htan paradeigma pros mimhsh. Yphrje enas poliths pantote parwn stoys agwnes gia th dhmokratia, thn eirhnh kai thn proodo. Ekfrazoyme ta qerma syllyphthria mas stoys oikeioys toy.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw ena sxolio, me aformh thn omilia toy arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, kata th shmerinh synedriash ths koinoboyleytikhs omadas ths N.D. Einai profanes, oti o k. Karamanlhs brisketai ypo thn ephreia ths prosfaths eklogikhs httas toy kommatos toy. H N.D. sto synolo ths adynatei na anagnwrisei thn pragmatikothta poy diamorfwqhke meta tis ekloges ths 9hs Aprilioy. Paroysiazetai me polla proswpeia. Apo th mia pleyra probainei se atekmhriwtes kataggelies, synexizontas akribws thn politikh poy akoloyqhse kai kata thn proeklogikh periodo, kai apo thn allh epixeirei na dhmioyrghsei ena metriopaqes kai synainetiko proswpeio, paroysiazontas th N.D. ws ena komma diaforetiko apo ayto poy pragmatika einai, ws ena komma toy legomenoy ``mesaioy xwroy''. H amhxania sthn opoia exei perielqei h N.D., prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei ta problhmata poy exoyn prokycei meta to eklogiko apotelesma, thn odhgoyn se tetoioy eidoys politikes akrobasies. To bebaio einai oti h hgesia ths N.D. adynatei na aposafhnisei thn ideologikopolitikh fysiognwmia toy kommatos. Ta Synedria den eleican kai den leipoyn. Ayto to opoio leipei einai h dynatothta kai h boylhsh na eksygxronistei h N.D.

Ginetai logos, metajy twn allwn, gia isodynamo eklogiko apotelesma. Ayto einai enas prwtofanhs neologismos. An h N.D. me th lejh ``isodynamia'' ennoei th dikh mas koinoboyleytikh aytodynamia kai th dikh ths adynamia, xqes na petyxei toys stoxoys ths kai shmera na anagnwrisei kai na apodexqei thn pragmatikothta, tote aytos o orismos mporei na eggrafei se ena neo lejiko gia thn politikh. Pantws, den exei kamia sxesh me thn politikh pragmatikothta.

Taytoxronws, h N.D. kanei logo gia ``skia''. Fainetai oti qa synexisei na skiamaxei, opws ekane mexri twra. O skiwdhs rolos, ton opoio dialegei, fainetai qa einai enas rolos poy qa th synodeyei ta epomena xronia, afoy adynatei na ginei ena komma ejoysias.

Lypoymaste giati kai shmera akomh h N.D. den anagnwrizei thn etymhgoria toy ellhnikoy laoy. Emmesws, amfisbhtei th dhmokratikh nomimothta kai thn arxh ths pleiochfias kai ths laikhs kyriarxias, me to na epanerxetai h hgesia ths se atekmhriwtes kataggelies, xwris, apo thn allh, na anagnwrizei pws o topos exei kybernhsh. Exei kybernhsh thn opoia empisteyetai o ellhnikos laos kai sthn opoia aneqese na odhghsei th xwra ta epomena krisima xronia.

Ayto einai ena poly geniko sxolio. Epifylassomai, afoy melethsw thn omilia toy k. Karamanlh, na epanelqw. Ayto poy einai safes einai toyto: Emeis qa efarmosoyme me synepeia to Programma poy ejaggeilame ston ellhniko lao. Opoies qetikes protaseis diatypwqoyn apo tis alles politikes dynameis qa ajiologhqoyn kai qa ajiopoihqoyn. Alla, qa prepei, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyme mia nea politikh kai koinwnikh pragmatikothta, o logos olwn mas na einai qetikos kai eilikrinhs. Den einai dynaton na patoyme taytoxronws se polles barkes, na xrhsimopoioyme polla proswpeia, na exoyme diplo logo kai thn idia stigmh na apaitoyme apo toys alloys na einai synepeis stis sxeseis toys mazi mas.

Ayto einai to paradeigma ths N.D. Einai ena apolytws arnhtiko fainomeno.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, protiqetai h kybernhsh na dwsei sth dhmosiothta stoixeia apo tis epixorhghseis kai na enhmerwsei poy diateqhkan ta xrhmata ayta toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy kai toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, opws zhthse ejalloy, xqes, o k. Benizelos;

REPPAS: Sta stoixeia ayta exei prosbash kaqe endiaferomenos. Exoyn milhsei gi` ayto, o ypoyrgos Politismoy kai oi armodioi paragontes. Den yparxei opoiodhpote allo qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Benizelos eipe na doqoyn sth dhmosiothta kai ta kondylia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, ta opoia diaxeirizontan o k. Pagkalos kai alloi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Einai gnwstes oi diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntai se aytes tis periptwseis. Ta stoixeia einai sth diaqesh pantos endiaferomenoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, mporw na paw egw na ta zhthsw; Qa moy ta dwsoyn;

REPPAS: Me tis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies, oi opoies problepontai apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs, bebaiws, ta stoixeia ayta einai sth diaqesh pantos endiaferomenoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw mporw na paw na ta zhthsw me mia aithsh moy kai na moy ta dwsoyn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa, sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn, oi opoies problepontai apo toys nomoys toy kratoys, apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs kai akoloyqoyntai pagiws. Den qelete na eimaste mia syntetagmenh Politeia;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Kanonismos ths Boylhs afora toys boyleytes. Den afora emena kai ton kaqe polith.

REPPAS: O k. Benizelos einai boyleyths kai polloi alloi. Kai h N.D. exei polloys boyleytes, opws gnwrizete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Moy lete na apeyqynqw ston k. Benizelo kai mesw toy k. Benizeloy na ta parw;

REPPAS: Oxi, k. Stamatopoyle. Sas lew oti se oles tis periptwseis, opws symbainei stis dhmokratika syntetagmenes politeies, yparxoyn diadikasies poy akoloyqoyntai, prokeimenoy na exoyme sth diaqesh mas kapoia agaqa, opws einai gia paradeigma mia plhroforia gia kapoio shmantiko qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akoma. Giati o k. Benizelos afhnei yponooymena gia ta kondylia ayta;

REPPAS: Kanena yponooymeno den afhnei o k. Benizelos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws den afhnei; ``Na doqoyn@'';

REPPAS: Einai dikh sas ermhneia. O k. Benizelos den afhnei kanena yponooymeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws jafnika qymhqhke ta kondylia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Eseis pws ta qymhqhkate;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ta osa dhlwse o k. Benizelos.

REPPAS: Na rwthsete ton k. Benizelo, loipon. O k. Benizelos den afhnei kanena yponooymeno. Mhn to qetete me ton tropo, ton opoio eseis qewreite oti sas dieykolynei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kai to kako parelqon, k. Ypoyrge@

REPPAS: Kanena kako parelqon den yparxei. Yparxei ena elpidoforo mellon.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me ta mystika kondylia poy eixan mplextei kai dhmosiografoi, an qymaste kala.

REPPAS: Jerw se poia periodo anafereste. Pantws den exei kamia sxesh h kybernhsh toy PASOK me tetoioy eidoys fainomena. Gi` ayto, sas kalw na qymhqeite kalytera kapoies alles periodoys, gia tis opoies polla exoyn lexqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai ta opoia, tote, eseis, h kybernhsh toy PASOK, arnhqhke na mas ta dwsei.

REPPAS: Ayth einai h entypwsh sas.

FILHS: O k. Pagkalos dhlwse, xwris na proklhqei apo kapoion h apo ton k. Benizelo -to eipe malista, xqes- oti ``qa toy steilw ta stoixeia kai qa ta dwsw sth dhmosiothta, shmera''. Qa dwsei sth dhmosiothta ta stoixeia ayta o k. Pagkalos;

REPPAS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o ypoyrgos kai oi alloi paragontes poy elaban to logo gia to sxetiko qema. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo se ayto to qema. To syzhtoyme dyo hmeres. Nomizw oti exoyn eipwqei ta panta.

FILHS: Emeis to syzhtoyme h oi idioi oi ypoyrgoi;

REPPAS: Kai emeis to syzhtoyme edw.

FILHS: Alla, kyriws, h ylh proerxetai apo th syzhthsh twn prwhn kai nyn ypoyrgwn ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Asfalws, oi opoioi exoyn thn eyqynh twn oswn lene kai qa prajoyn ayta ta opoia lene.

FILHS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei enoxlhqei, opws grafetai stis efhmerides, apo th symperifora twn prwhn kai nyn ypoyrgwn Politismoy;

REPPAS: Milhsa xqes, gi` ayto to qema. Eipa oti den mporei na epikrothsoyme tetoia fainomena dhmosias antidikias. Ayth einai h qesh.

FILHS: H erwthsh einai eyqeia: An o Prwqypoyrgos exei enoxlhqei kai an exei erqei se epikoinwnia mazi toys.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai twra epikoinwnei mazi toys, doqentos oti proedreyei se synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, sto opoio symmetexoyn ta dyo stelexh. Ta dyo stelexh toy Kinhmatos epikoinwnhsan metajy toys kai gnwrizw oti synanthqhkan, antallajan apoceis, ligh wra prin, sto plaisio ths episkechs sta grafeia toy Kinhmatos, prokeimenoy na laboyn meros sth synedriash toy E.G.

FILHS: Dhladh, eixe prohghqei h kateynastikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton prwhn kai ton nyn ypoyrgo Politismoy;

REPPAS: Edwsa apanthseis gia ola ayta, k. Filh.

FILHS: Pws apanthsate, xqes kai proxqes, k. Ypoyrge; Prokeitai gia nea stoixeia.

REPPAS: Apanthsa, xqes, proxqes, apanthsa kai shmera. Sas eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei epikoinwnia me ta stelexh. Kai shmera o Prwqypoyrgos einai se epikoinwnia me ta stelexh ayta poy symmetexoyn sth synedriash toy E.G.

FILHS: Kai poia symperasmata bgainoyn dioti, para thn epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, synexizetai h symplokh twn dyo koryfaiwn stelexwn;

REPPAS: Kamia symplokh den synexizetai. Hdh, exoyn dhlwsei kai oi dyo oti asxoloyntai me to ergo toys. O k. Benizelos eipe xqes oti to qema exei lhjei. O k. Pagkalos eipe oti kanei agwna gia na ejasfalisei toys poroys poy einai aparaithtoi, prokeimenoy na efarmosei thn politikh toy sto ypoyrgeio Politismoy. Kai ta dyo stelexh synexizoyn to shmantiko ergo toys, kaqenas sto diko toy tomea.

XRYSOSTOMIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn polloi oi opoioi ektimoyn oti h poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy den akoloyqei thn antistoixh poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Dhladh, h ellhnikh oikonomia mporei na proxwrei kala, oi deiktes phgainoyn kala, omws yparxei problhma me to Xrhmatisthrio. Eixame mia topoqethsh toy SEB, prosfatws. Ayto poy symbainei tis teleytaies hmeres me tis akraies braxyproqesmes topoqethseis kapoiwn, blepoyme na apoferei shmantika kerdh, kalo merokamato kapoiwn wrwn se kapoioys@

REPPAS: H erwthsh sas poia einai;

XRYSOSTOMIDHS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh, me kapoio sygkekrimeno tropo, endexomenws mia forologia, se ekeinoys oi opoioi paizoyn me orizonta wrwn, na to antimetwpisei;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei analabei prwtoboylies kai exei labei metra gia th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Den yparxei tipota neotero, ayth th stigmh, pros anakoinwsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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