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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ianoyarioy 2000

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to KYSEA. Syzhthsame dyo kefalaia, oson afora thn poreia twn ejoplismwn.

To ena afora to trexon ejoplistiko programma, dhladh to EMPAE 1996-2000.

To allo afora to EMPAE @ Eniaio Mesoproqesmo Programma Anaptyjhs Eksygxronismoy- ths periodoy 2001-2005.

Oson afora to prwto kefalaio, to trexon ejoplistiko programma EPAE 1996-2000, h syzhthsh egine:

Prwton, gia to aeroskafos typoy Eurofighter.

Deyteron, gia ta aeroskafh typoy Mirage-2005.

Triton, gia ta aeroskafh F-16. Kai

Tetarton, thn promhqeia aeroskafoys meshs metaforikhs ikanothtas se antikatastash toy aeroskafoys typoy C-130 poy xrhsimopoieitai shmera.

Oson afora to Eurofighter h Ellada, opws gnwrizete, exei ekdhlwsei to endiaferon na entaxqei isotima se ayto to Consortium, to opoio paragei to maxhtiko aeroskafos. Symmetexoyn ews twra h M. Bretania, h Germania, h Italia kai h Ispania.

H apofash poy kat` arxas exoyme labei einai na promhqeytoyme aeroplana Eurofighter, xwris na exoyme katalhjei se sygkekrimeno ariqmo. Apofasisthke to poson ths dapanhs. O ariqmos, pantws, qa kymainetai apo 60-90 aeroskafh aytoy toy typoy. H promhqeia twn aeroskafwn aytwn qa ginei sta epomena xronia. Praktika den einai efikto na promhqeytoyme aeroskafh aytoy toy typoy prin apo to 2003. To qema ayto syzhteitai se synarthsh me thn politikh mas gia tis allages diarqrwtikoy xarakthra sto kaqestws leitoyrgias gia thn anaptyjh ths ellhnikhs aeroporikhs biomhxanias, ths gnwsths EAB. Oi syzhthseis aytes, gia thn entajh se ayto to Consortium ginontai parallhla me th syzhthsh kai thn askhsh politikhs gia tis diarqrwtikes allages sthn EAB, wste na symbadizoyn, na sympiptoyn xronika, afoy h EAB me th nea ths morfh qa epifortistei me ayto to kaqhkon, na entaxqei ek meroys ths Elladas se ayto to mhxanismo paragwghs @kata ena tmhma bebaiws- toy maxhtikoy aeroskafoys aytoy toy typoy. Me ayth thn ennoia, epanalambanw, oi syzhthseis, oi diapragmateyseis einai se ejelijh. Qa ginoyn nees synedriaseis toy KYSEA, oson afora thn anagkh na laboyme kapoia apofash gia to Eurofighter, afoy sto metajy exoyme proxwrhsei thn efarmogh ths politikhs mas gia thn EAB. Ypologizetai stis arxes Martioy na ginei h epomenh synedriash toy KYSEA gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy qematos, gia to Eurofighter.

Oson afora ta Mirage, gnwrizete oti exoyme apofasisei thn agora 15 newn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn typoy Mirage 2000-5 kai thn anabaqmish 10 aeroskafwn Mirage-2000 ston typo Mirage 2000-5. Bebaiws, h syzhthsh, oi diapragmateyseis synexizontai gi` ayth thn agora. Kai oi syzhthseis aytes ginontai se synarthsh me ton ejoplismo twn aeroskafwn aytwn me ta aparaithta oplika systhmata. Sxetika me thn agora twn newn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn qymizw oti exoyme apofasisei kai thn agora aeroskafwn typoy F-16. Oi diapragmateyseis synexizontai kai gi` ayth thn agora. Antilambaneste oti den exoyme sygkekrimeno ariqmo. Exoyme apofasisei thn orofh ths dapanhs, h opoia kymainetai sto poso twn 650 dis draxmwn. O ariqmos twn aeroskafwn kymainetai apo 40-60. Ayth einai h kat` arxas apofash poy exoyme labei.

SOYRMELH: Tis dapanes tis prohgoymenes mporeite na mas tis peite;

REPPAS: Oi prohgoymenes dapanes exoyn anakoinwqei. Einai peripoy 540 dis draxmes gia ta Mirage. Einai sto plaisio toy palaioy EMPAE. Mhn mpoyme stis epimeroys dapanes, giati sas eipa oti ola ayta einai antikeimeno diapragmateyshs. Oi times aytes einai endeiktikes, doqentos oti ta aeroskafh ayta qa synodeyontai apo enan ejoplismo, poy einai aparaithtos gia na einai ajiomaxa kai, bebaiws, problepetai mia seira antistaqmistikwn wfelhmatwn poy prosferontai apo tis kataskeyastries etaireies.

Kai ston tomea ths diapragmateyshs gia ta F-16 @yparxei se ejelijh h syzhthsh, poy afora kai ta oplika systhmata poy qa feroyn ta aeroskafh ayta. Eidikws gia tis periptwseis aytes, apaiteitai egkrish toy Kogkresoy, se polles periptwseis, prokeimenoy na doqei adeia sthn kataskeyastria amerikanikh etaireia na promhqeysei thn Ellhnikh Polemikh Aeroporia me ayta ta oplika systhmata.

Oson afora to meso metaforiko aeroskafos poy qa antikatasthsei to C-130, egine mia prwth ajiologhsh twn protasewn poy exoyn katateqei apo tis kataskeyastries etaireies, apo toys endiaferomenoys. Telikws, to KYSEA apofasise, lambanontas ypoch ola ta krithria -epixeirhsiaka, texnika, oikonomika- na dwsei entolh sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas na synexisei th diapragmateysh, prokeimenoy na petyxei beltiwsh twn timwn. H diapragmateysh kai h syzhthsh ayth qa synexistei me tis kataskeyastries etaireies gia treis typoys aeroskafwn: Ta C-27J, ta C-295 kai ta CN-235 advance, poy einai ejeligmenos typos enos palaioteroy idioy aeroskafoys. Metajy aytwn twn triwn typwn aeroskafwn qa klhqei na epilejei, telikws, to KYSEA se epomenh synedriash toy, kai bebaiws qa synexistei h diapragmateysh gia th beltiwsh twn timwn.

Oson afora to neo EMPAE ths periodoy 2001-2005, eipwqhke oti einai aparaithto na synexisoyme ena ejoplistiko programma to opoio qa antapokrinetai sthn epilogh mas gia th diafylajh twn synqhkwn eirhnhs sthn perioxh, gia thn antimetwpish kaqe kindynoy kai kaqe ejwterikhs epiboylhs enantion ths edafikhs akeraiothtas kai twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn mas kai gia th dynatothta ths Elladas na antapokrinetai isotima me tis alles xwres, sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn Dieqnwn Synqhkwn, stis dieqneis ypoxrewseis ths. Se genikes grammes ayto einai to plaisio politikhs to opoio odhgei stis epiloges mas. Den exei lhfqei opoiadhpote apofash. Aplws eipwqhke apo ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas Akh Tsoxatzopoylo oti ta posa ta opoia qa xreiastoyn gi` ayto to EMPAE den qa katablhqoyn ola mexri thn oloklhrwsh toy programmatos, entos dhladh ayths ths pentaetias poy jekina ews to 2005. Ena meros, to megalytero, qa dapanhqei ayth thn periodo. Ta ypoloipa qa ejoflhqoyn ta xronia poy akoloyqoyn meta to 2005. Eipwqhke, epishs, apo ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias Gianno Papantwnioy oti prepei na ypologisoyme pws se ethsia bash qa exoyme mia epibarynsh sto epipedo twn 900 dis ews 1 tris draxmwn gia thn antimetwpish twn anagkwn toy ejoplistikoy programmatos kai toy palaioy kai toy neoy. Bebaiws, gia thn telikh apofash mas, qa laboyme ypoch tis dynatothtes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, tis proteraiothtes ths politikhs mas gia thn antimetwpish koinwnikwn qematwn, thn enisxysh anaptyjiakwn programmatwn kai th sygxrhmatodothsh megalwn ergwn, poy xrhmatodotei h E.E..

Se poly genikes grammes ayta syzhthqhkan sth shmerinh synedriash toy KYSEA.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Gia to synoliko poso apofasisate;

REPPAS: Den apofasisame synoliko poso.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: To poso gia ta Eurofighter;

REPPAS: Gia ta Eurofighter h syzhthsh einai akomh anoikth, doqentos oti h dynatothta na ta promhqeytoyme den einai toy parontos. Bebaiws, kai h ejelijh ths diapragmateyshs me to Consortium sto opoio epiqymoyme na entaxqoyme qa ephreasei kai to teliko poson. Dhladh, to teliko poson einai synarthsh pollwn paragontwn.

KARELIAS: Otan leme 1 tris to xrono, mexri pote;

REPPAS: Ews thn oloklhrwsh toy programmatos, to opoio qa apofasisoyme se mia nea synedriash toy KYSEA. Kai otan ennow programma, ennow to neo ejoplistiko programma EMPAE 2001-2005 poy h ejoflhsh toy, omws, den qa oloklhrwqei entos ayths ths xronikhs periodoy. Qa epektaqei kai se epomena xronia, meta to 2005. Prepei na labete ypoch sas oti se ayto to poso symperilambanontai, oxi mono oi dapanes gia to neo EMPAE, alla kai oi dapanes poy prepei na ginoyn gia prohgoymeno ejoplistiko programma. Einai to synolo, dhladh, twn rown pros ta ejoplistika programmata, poy prepei na diathrhqei se ayto to epipedo.

SOYRMELH: Prwton , qa hqela na gnwrizw, oi dapanes toy EMPAE 2001-2005 synolika poses einai, anejarthta poso meta qa barynei; Deyteron, ayth h ethsia bash plhrwmhs ycoys 900 dis - 1 tris poy eipe o k. Papantwnioy, apo poio xrono qa arxisei na barynei; Kai triton, ayta ta metagwgika aeroplana, sta opoia anaferqhkate, einai ta dyo ispanika kai to ena italoamerikaniko kai posa einai ta metagwgika poy skepteste na agorasete;

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto sas erwthma, den labame apofash gia to teliko poso, doqentos oti den exoyme apofasisei akomh pws qa diarqrwqei ayto to programma. Qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs se mia nea synedriash. H katabolh twn poswn aytwn, prepei na ypologizetai apo to 2001, poy jekina to neo EMPAE, doqentos oti gia to trexon etos exoyme labei hdh apofash gia ta posa, ta opoia prepei na dapanhsoyme.

Oson afora ton ariqmo twn aeroskafwn meshs metaforikhs ikanothtas poy qa antikatasthsoyn ta C-130, exoyme anakoinwsei thn agora 15 aeroskafwn, me dikaiwma agoras allwn pente, me tis idies proypoqeseis.

MOYRTZHS: H epibarynsh se ethsia bash ths tajews twn 900 dis h 1 tris draxmwn apo poy bgainei, dedomenoy oti, opws eipate prohgoymenws, den apofasisthke to synoliko poso. Kata proseggish, dhladh, bgainei;

REPPAS: Me bash thn empeiria poy exoyme, mexri twra, apo th diaxeirish poy kaname ta prohgoymena eth, h politikh mas einai oti h dapanh poy mporoyme na kanoyme gia tetoia programmata, prepei na exei ayth thn orofh. Na fqasei se ayto to orio. Ara, loipon, h dynatothta mas gia ejoplistika programma, sta epomena xronia, mporei na fqasei se ayto to orio. Alla, prepei na sas pw oti kai ta posa, ta opoia problepetai na dapanhqoyn sto plaisio toy EMPAE 2001-2005, asfalws, den exoyn apofasistei, alla, antilambaneste oti einai posa poy exei proseggisei h politikh hgesia. Den einai agnwsta ta epipeda twn dapanwn poy prepei na ginoyn gia ayto to neo ejoplistiko programma.

FILHS: Otan o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias proypologizei, me thn asafeia malista twn stoixeiwn poy yparxoyn, th diathrhsh twn poswn gia yperejoplismoys se toso ychla epipeda, kata to epomeno diasthma, einai logiko na eimaste anhsyxoi oloi oi polites. Giati synhqws ta posa einai pollaplasia toy proypologismoy, oson afora ta opla. Ayto deixnei h empeiria. Eseis, bebaiws, proballete logoys Eqnikhs Amynas. To erwthma einai, sto plaisio twn newn sxesewn poy epidiwkei h Ellada me thn Toyrkia, protiqetai na qesei qema politikoy dialogoy gia thn amoibaia meiwsh twn ejoplismwn metajy twn dyo xwrwn;

REPPAS: Antilambaneste pws ayto einai kati to opoio oles oi xwres epiqymoyn. Na mh xreiazetai na probainoyn se ejoplismoys, na mhn kanoyn megales dapanes. Den eimaste omws -kai anaferomai sthn katastash poy epikratei sthn perioxh mas- se ayto to shmeio twra, den exoyme fqasei toylaxiston akomh. Ara, oson afora ayto to programma poy, kat` arxas, exei sxediastei, einai kata bash programma eksygxronismoy twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Qa parameinoyme se ayto to plaisio poy exei sxediastei kai exei, kat` arxas, apofasistei.

Oson afora tis dapanes, prepei na sas pw oti, apo th mia ginontai me bash ta stoixeia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, tis antoxes kai tis dynatothtes ths, kai apo thn allh, me bash tis anagkes twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras. Epishs, qa prepei na synektimhqei to oti oi apofaseis gia toys ejoplismoys thn prohgoymenh periodo, poy odhghsan sto na diathrhsoyme to ajiomaxo twn Enoplwn Dynamewn, mporei na exoyn emmesws, alla safws, mia epidrash sth dhmioyrgia aytoy toy klimatos asfaleias kai eirhnhs sthn perioxh. Giati oloi antilambanontai pws h Ellada eksygxronizei tis Enoples Dynameis ths, tis diathrei se ena epipedo amyntikhs eparkeias tetoio, wste na leitoyrgei apotreptika se kaqe enantion ths epiboylh. Nomizw oti kai ayto to politiko stoixeio exei thn ajia toy. Apo kei kai pera den prokeitai, kai gi ayto mporw na eimai kathgorhmatikos, na yperboyme ayta ta epipeda gia ta opoia exoyme apofasisei. Kai oydepote, mexri twra, exoyme jeperasei ta epipeda, ta opoia exoyme apofasisei, oson afora dapanes. H synolikh dapanh gia to neo EMPAE, den einai ``agnwsth xwra''. Gnwrizoyme se poia epipeda kinoymaste. Den einai asafeis oi orizontes, opws eipate sthn erwthsh sas, gia to neo EMPAE. H arxikh protash milaei gia 4 tris 450 dis. Kai eipwqhke oti qa prepei na katablhqoyn ta 2tris 600dis mexri to 2005. Kai ta epomena xronia , meta to 2005, to 1tris 800dis. Alla, epanalambanw oti ayth einai h prwth proseggish. Gia ola ayta ta qemata qa synedriasei kai pali to KYSEA.

FILHS: Apo ta stoixeia poy dinete gia ta 4tris 450dis prokyptei oti oi ejoplistikes dapanes anerxontai se parapanw apo 10% toy AEP synolika. Katanemhmeno kata etos den jeroyme poso qa paei. Dhladh, einai mia epaxqhs ypoxrewsh ek meroys ths Elladas. Kai an exw ta stoixeia sto myalo moy swsta kai den exei allajei kati ton teleytaio xrono, h Ellada kai h Toyrkia einai oi dyo kalyteroi pelates, twn etaireiwn poy promhqeyoyn opla pagkosmiws. Ayto to pragmatiko ariqmhtiko stoixeio, giati den wqei thn kybernhsh, oxi na paei se monomerh apofash meiwshs twn ejoplismwn, ayto einai mia allh istoria, alla na qesei san prwth h stis prwtes proteraiothtes ths atzentas toy dialogoy me thn Toyrkia, to qema ths amoibaias kai isorrophs meiwshs twn ejoplismwn.

REPPAS: Exete apolyto dikio otan lete oti ayth h dapanh einai epaxqhs. Einai ena megalo baros to opoio shkwnei h ellhnikh oikonomia kai oloi oi Ellhnes polites. Pragmatika h ethsia dapanh einai para poly megalh. Qa mporoysame ayto to poso na to diaqesoyme gia alloys skopoys. Epanalambanw, omws, lambanomenwn ypoch twn synqhkwn poy epikratoyn sthn perioxh mas, oti qa prepei na exoyme sygxrones, eparkeis Enoples Dynameis, prokeimenoy h syzhthsh, sthn opoia mas kaleite na laboyme meros, na mporei na ginei katw apo isoys oroys me ekeinon me ton opoio syzhtas. Me ayth thn ennoia, exoyme apofasisei ayto to ejoplistiko programma ta opoio qa efarmosoyme. Kai bebaiws, me idiaitero endiaferon, ayth thn ptyxh ths politikhs, oson afora kai tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, qa thn anadeijoyme thn epomenh periodo, efoson yparxei gonimo edafos kai efoson mporoyme na aisiodojoyme oti qa odhghqoyme se epityxh apotelesmata. Giati den einai epilogh mas na kanoyme dapanes, otan ayta ta xrhmatika posa mporoyme na ta diaqesoyme se alloys skopoys. Symfwnoyme apolyta ws pros ayto se epipedo arxhs. Alla, o xeirismos toy qematos aytoy antilambaneste pws den einai dynaton na einai allos. Den mporei, dhladh, twra na odhghqoyme sto na mhn proxwrhsoyme se ayto to ejoplistiko programma. Giati twra einai h wra na sxediasoyme kai na laboyme apofaseis.

FILHS: Mhpws plhrwnoyme kapoia diaithsia;

REPPAS: Ola ayta einai gnwsta, ta analyete, ta sxoliazete. Qa htan eyxhs ergo aytes oi dapanes na diateqoyn se alloys skopoys. Me bash ta osa eipame ki eseis ki egw, sas kalw na ektimhsete poso shmantiko einai to epiteygma ths xwras mas, poy me ayto to oikonomiko baros katorqwse na proseggisei kai na epityxei toys stoxoys ths oikonomikhs sygklishs. Katorqwse h ellhnikh oikonomia na exei aytoys toys ryqmoys anaptyjhs. Katorqwsame na paragoyme ayton ton ployto, pragma to opoio deixnei oti pragmati kati shmantiko exei allajei se ayth th xwra. Ola ayta einai stoixeia ta opoia prepei na synektimhsete gia na bgalete asfales politiko symperasma.

FILHS: H anergia, omws, exei fqasei sta 11,3%@

REPPAS: Ayto oloys mas stenaxwrei, alla den antimetwpizetai mono me logoys parhgorias h me analyseis kai sxolia. Yparxei sxedio drashs gia thn antimetwpish ths anergias poy efarmozetai, gia prwth fora, persi kai fetos, sth xwra mas. Gia prwth fora to 1998 dhmioyrghqhkan 114.000 nees qeseis ergasias, perissoteres -einai qetiko to isozygio- se sxesh me aytes poy katarghqhkan. Alla, bebaiws, yparxei poly megalh zhthsh ergasias. Exoyme nees dynameis poy mpainoyn sthn agora ergasias apo ton prwtogenh tomea. Gynaikes polles kai dikaiws kai bebaiws jenoi polites, oi opoioi briskontai pleon sth xwra mas, kata ekatontades xiliades. Ola ayta, omws, den einai toy parontos. Ayto einai ena megalo koinwniko qema poy mas apasxolei. Pisteyoyme oti einai se epipeda ta opoia -mporei na pei kaneis- oti einai anekta, para to oti kai enas anergos na yparxei se mia koinwnia, gia ton eayton toy poy einai 100% anergos, to problhma einai terastio. Ola ayta, omws, den einai qema syzhthshs ayth thn wra.

GARGALAKOS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh na parei metra gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai epiprosqeta pws apanta sthn Antipoliteysh poy thn kathgorei oti dhmioyrghse ceytikes elpides stoys mikroependytes;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola oso ligotero syzhtoyn oi politikoi gia to Xrhmatisthrio, toso kalytera gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai toys ependytes. Gnwrizete poly kala oti einai kanonas sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy na paroysiazontai diakymanseis. Alla h poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, ola ta stoixeia ta opoia mporei na pei kaneis oti ephreazoyn, ej antikeimenoy, th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy synhgoroyn yper mias epityxoys ejelijhs twn synallagwn sto Xrhmatisthrio. Pisteyw oti qa prepei na perifroyrhsoyme thn aytonomia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. To exw pei kat` epanalhch kai to epanalambanw. Qa prepei na diafylajoyme thn aytonomia aytoy toy qesmoy, o opoios gia polloys logoys einai shmantikos. Apo ekei kai pera den einai dynaton to Xrhmatisthrio na apotelei pedio politikhs antiparaqeshs. Den einai dynato sto Xrhmatisthrio na emplekontai kommata h politikoi paragontes. Den einai dynaton opoiosdhpote politikos h komma na perilambanei sto sxediasmo toy to Xrhmatisthrio. Giati, qewroyme pws prosferei me ayton ton tropo poly kakh yphresia. Htan atyxhs h prwtoboylia, ypenqymizw, toy k. Karamanlh prin apo ligoys mhnes, sto plaisio ths skandalologias, na apeyqynqei me epistolh toy ston proedro toy Xrhmatisthrioy kai oxi ston armodio ypoyrgo -to tonizw ki ayto, giati htan mia paratypia- kai na zhthsei stoixeia gia eishgmenes etaireies sto Xrhmatisthrio, stoixeia ta opoia gnwrizei oti einai aporrhta. Ayth h arnhtikh xeironomia qa prepei na mhn epanalhfqei. Eytyxws, anadiplwqhke o k. Karamanlhs, h Nea Dhmokratia. Allos politikos den exei labei opoiodhpote metro h den exei analabei opoiadhpote analogh prwtoboylia. Oi dhlwseis poy ginontai apo politikoys paragontes qa prepei na ginontai me poly megalh feidw. H Epitroph Kefalaiagoras exei ayth thn armodiothta na proxwra se elegxoys. Otan diapistwnei parabaseis na pairnei metra, na epiballei prostima h alles poines. Ola ayta ginontai mesw twn armodiwn organwn poy exoyn epifortistei me sygkekrimenoys roloys kai armodiothtes. Qa prepei, gia na ``hremhsei'' to Xrhmatisthrio, na mhn endwsoyme ston peirasmo, na to entajoyme se opoio politiko sxediasmo kanoyme. Kai kalw ola ta kommata kai oloys toys politikoys na kanoyn ayto akribws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti qa prepei na diafylajoyme thn aytonomia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Giati, tote oi ypoyrgoi me dhlwseis toys epembainoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio;

REPPAS: Exete kati sygkekrimeno na anaferete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exete akoysei ton k. Papantwnioy; Den exei kanei parembash sto Xrhmatisthrio;

REPPAS: Jexnate oti o k. Papantwnioy einai o armodios ypoyrgos. Kai oi dhlwseis toy k. Papantwnioy, einai oi dhlwseis toy politikoy oson afora thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai to ti mporei na shmainei h ejelijh twn megeqwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Oydepote o k. Papantwnioy anelabe prwtoboylia, opws ekane o k. Karamanlhs, na parembei sta eswterika toy Xrhmatisthrioy. O k. Karamanlhs esteile epistolh ston proedro toy Xrhmatisthrioy, anti na apeyqynqei ston armodio ypoyrgo kai na zhthsei stoixeia. Sas parakalw kai pali aytes tis syzhthseis poy aforoyn to Xrhmatisthrio na tis afhsoyme ejw apo tis politikes syzhthseis h tis kommatikes antiparaqeseis. Einai syzhthseis poy prepei na kanoyn oi eidikoi se alloys xwroys, oxi edw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exei parembei o k. Papantwnioy sto Xrhmatisthrio;

REPPAS: Oydepote kai den exete na anaferete kapoio paradeigma. Sas kalw na energopoihsete th mnhmh sas gia opoiodhpote paradeigma. Oydepote.

FILHS: Ependytikwn symboylwn apo ypoyrgoys; Proxqes, o k. Papantwnioy eipe den koyrazomai na epanalambanw@ Ependytikes symboyles einai ayta.

REPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy, ws armodios ypoyrgos kai oloi mas, gnwrizontas poia einai h ejelijh twn megeqwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias mporoyme na poyme to aytonohto. Ayto poy qa elege o kaqenas se opoiadhpote xwra poy leitoyrgei Xrhmatisthrio kai einai fanerh h anaptyjh ths oikonomias ths xwras ayths. Tipota allo peran aytoy den exoyme pei kai den exoyme analabei opoiadhpote prwtoboylia na emplakoyme sta eswterika ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy, opws ekane o k. Karamanlhs. Yparxei terastia diafora.

FILHS: Mia paremferhs erwthsh: Enocei twn epikeimenwn eklogwn, ocepote ginoyn, eite twra, eite argotera@

REPPAS: Eite poly argotera@

FILHS: @ h kybernhsh kai to PASOK skeftontai na xrhsimopoihsoyn jana diafhmiseis me to Xrhmatisthrio gia na peisoyn toys polites na chfisoyn PASOK, opws synebh me tis Eyrwekloges;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh h kybernhsh me th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, toylaxiston me th morfh poy eseis to eklambanete. Apo ekei kai pera h poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, bebaiws, einai ena stoixeio to opoio -epeidh para polloi symmetexoyn, polloi polites exoyn ependysei sto Xrhmatisthrio- qa laboyn ypoch toys. Ayto einai kati poy qa ginei ej antikeimenoy, den lew kati kainoyrio. Kai h poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, bebaiws, mporei na pei kaneis oti qa einai ena deigma, enas kaqrefths gia to ti exei petyxei kai h ellhnikh oikonomia. Alla, ola ayta prepei na ta ejetazete se makroskopiko epipedo. Den prepei na ta ejetazete mera me thn hmera. Qa prepei na ta ejetazete blepontas thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy sth diarkeia toy xronoy. Ayto einai kati to opoio ektimoyn oloi oi paragontes. Qa to kanei h kybernhsh, qa to kanoyn kai ta kommata, otan bgaloyn ta symperasmata toys gia to pws ejelixqhkan ta oikonomika pragmata se mia prohgoymenh periodo.

FILHS: Gia to Asfalistiko grafetai oti qa anateqei se jeno oiko, na kanei analogikh meleth.

REPPAS: Einai ena qema, to opoio den apasxolei thn kybernhsh. Einai qema to opoio mporei na syzhthqei mia epomenh periodo, alla oxi twra. Den kaname ejaggelia gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy qematos.

PAGKALOS: Gia thn prosklhsh toy k. Etzebit pros ton k. Shmith, ti sxolio exete na kanete;

REPPAS: H prosklhsh ayth deixnei thn epiqymia ths Agkyras na exei epikoinwnia se ayto to epipedo koryfhs. Qa apanthqei dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy, opws ginetai se aytes tis periptwseis. Ayto poy mporw na prosqesw einai oti den einai toy parontos mia tetoia synanthsh.

Eyxaristw poly.

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