Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-09-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Septembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis epomenes hmeres:

* Shmera to meshmeri -se mish wra sygkekrimena- qa episkefqei toys Dhmoys Agiwn Anargyrwn kai Kamateroy, poy exoyn plhgei apo ton prosfato katastrofiko seismo. Qa syzhthsei me tis topikes dhmotikes arxes kai toys katoikoys ta problhmata, qa enhmerwqei kai qa dwsei kateyqynseis. H episkech ayth entassetai sto plaisio twn taktikwn episkecewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn perioxh, poy exei ypostei tis megalyteres zhmies, prokeimenoy, to syntomotero dynato, na oloklhrwqei h prospaqeia gia thn plhrh apokatastash twn plhgentwn, se synqhkes zwhs poy qa einai omales.

* Ayrio, Trith, stis 10 to prwi, qa synergastei me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, ton k. Papaiwannoy kai ton k. Prwtopapa. Argotera, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa dexqei to Germano Presbh sthn Aqhna. Sth 1 h wra qa dexqei kai qa synergastei me thn hgesia ths organwtikhs epitrophs gia thn Olympiada toy 2004, me th symmetoxh ths kas Papazwh. Stis 2 to meshmeri, qa dexqei kai qa synergastei me to Grammatea ths K. E. toy PASOK K. Skandalidh. To apogeyma stis 7, qa proedreysei se synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK.

* Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei ton Ypoyrgo Epikrateias Kwsta Geitona me to proedreio ths K. O. toy Kinhmatos. Argotera, sth 1 h wra, qa dexqei kai qa synergastei me thn k. Basw Papandreoy kai thn hgesia toy ASEP, ton proedro kai ton antiproedro toy Anwtatoy Symboylioy Epiloghs Proswpikoy. To apogeyma stis 7, qa pareyreqei se ekdhlwsh pros timhn toy dianohth Nikoy Poylatza, poy qa ginei sthn aiqoysa Teletwn toy Panepisthmioy Aqhnwn.

* Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, ton G. Papandreoy kai ton Xr. Rokofyllo, thn Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn B. Papandreoy kai ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh. H synergasia ayth afora thn proetoimasia ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Tampere ths Filandias, stis 15 kai 16 Oktwbrioy. Ta qemata ths Synodoy ayths einai sxetika me th dhmosia asfaleia kai synergasia twn xwrwn ths E. E., ston tomea ayto. Stis 12 to meshmeri, ths idias hmeras, qa dexqei ton proedro ths Oygkanta, o opoios episkeptetai thn Ellada, meta apo prosklhsh toy Ellhna Proedroy. Stis 2 to meshmeri, qa dexqei ton k. Samarank, proedro ths Dieqnoys Olympiakhs Epitrophs, poy qa brisketai ekeines tis hmeres sthn Ellada. To brady stis 8, qa pareyreqei se ekdhlwsh poy organwnetai sto Zappeio Megaro, gia thn paroysiash toy shmatos ths Olympiadas toy 2004.

* Thn Paraskeyh stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me dieyrymenh synqesh. Antikeimeno syzhthshs: o seismos, ta problhmata poy exoyn proklhqei, h poreia efarmoghs twn metrwn poy exoyme apofasisei kai ejaggeilei, kaqws kai qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Politismoy.

* To Sabbato, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei to Filando Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios enocei ths Synodoy toy Tampere, kanei to legomeno gyro twn prwteyoyswn. Meta th synanthsh qa proboyn se dhlwseis.

* Th Deytera, stis 11 to prwi, opws gnwrizete, exoyme thn enarjh ths neas synodoy ths olomeleias ths Boylhs. Stis 6 to apogeyma, episkeptetai thn Ellada o Germanos Kagkelarios k. Srenter. Einai episkech ergasias. Argotera, oi kyrio Shmiths, Srenter qa parastoyn se ekdhlwsh gia ta 75 xronia toy Ellhnogermanikoy Epimelhthrioy.

* Thn Trith, stis 10.30 to prwi, qa synedriasei h K. O. toy PASOK.

* Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia dhlwsh me aformh thn omilia, th synenteyjh kai tis dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh, kata thn paroysia toy sth Qessalonikh:

H Nea Dhmokratia apedeije oti exei diafora fashs apo thn kybernhsh. Prospaqei na parakoloyqhsei thn kybernhsh, akoloyqwntas kai sxoliazontas tis politikes prwtoboylies ths, giati h idia adynatei na analabei prwtoboylies. O k. Karamanlhs, me tis omilies kai tis dhlwseis toy apedeije oti einai katwteros twn peristasewn kai h Nea Dhmokratia komma xwris politikh pyjida. O proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias anaferqhke syxna sthn meta ONE epoxh. Aytoi oi opoioi kathgoroysan thn kybernhsh, oti adynatei na qesei se entajiakh poreia th xwra mas, anagnwrizoyn twra ayto to epiteygma ths kybernhshs mas kai entexnws metatopizoyn th syzhthsh se ena allo pedio, sthn meta ONE epoxh. To kanoyn ekeinoi, oi opoioi otan kybernhsan thn Ellada den katorqwsan na efarmosoyn oyte ena programma sygklishs me epityxia. O k. Karamanlhs, epishs, apedeije oti "paizei". "Paizei me th fwtia", epeidh paizei me toys qesmoys. Milaei me tropo asebh gia to qesmo ths Proedrias ths Dhmokratias, alla kai gia to proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, adiaforwntas an etsi yponomeyei thn politikh kai oikonomikh staqerothta poy einai perissotero para pote anagkaia, prokeimenoy h Ellada na epityxei toys megaloys stoxoys, antimetwpizontas tis proklhseis ayths ths periodoy. Oson afora ta qemata oikonomias, kai ekei o k. Karamanlhs akoloyqei ena dromo o opoios einai olisqhros. Apo th mia kathgorei thn kybernhsh gia thn oikonomikh politikh ths, milwntas gia mia "gkriza" oikonomikh pragmatikothta kai apo thn allh pleiodotei se metra poy exei anakoinwsei kai efarmozei h kybernhsh, anagnwrizontas etsi, asfalws emmesws, tis dynatothtes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, ws apotelesma ths politikhs ths kybernhshs. Qa perioristw se poly liga stoixeia, ta opoia stoixeioqetoyn apolytws ayth thn topoqethsh moy: Epanerxetai, pali kai pali h Nea Dhmokratia, se ayto to perifhmo qema toy FPA gia thn promhqeia gewrgikwn mhxanhmatwn, th meiwsh toy apo 18% sto 8%. H Nea Dhmokratia einai ayth, h opoia qespise to 18%, ws syntelesth FPA gia thn promhqeia aytoy toy ejoplismoy. Kai gnwrizei, poly kala, oti den einai dynato -sto plaisio ths E. E., den yparxei diadikasia, den yparxei nomikh odos- na allajei aytos o syntelesths. Einai laqos ths, poy den eixe problecei kai alloys endiamesoys syntelestes, wste na mporoyme na prosfygoyme se aytoys kai na toys xrhsimopoihsoyme.

Ayto to opoio, omws, exei endiaferon einai oti o k. Karamanlhs ekane ejaggelies, afenos gia na laboyn oi asfalismenoi toy OGA to epidoma Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs, afeteroy gia na doqei ayjhsh sth syntajh olwn twn syntajioyxwn, ektos toy OGA. Prepei na sas pw, epeidh ypologisame to kostos aytwn twn metrwn, oti h dapanh jeperna to ena trisekatommyrio draxmes. Diakosia trianta pente disekatommyria draxmes ypologizoyme oti apaitoyntai, prokeimenoy na doqei to epidoma Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs, to opoio kaqierwse h kybernhsh toy PASOK -kai den prepei na to jexnaei ayto o k. Karamanlhs- kai stoys syntajioyxoys toy OGA. Einai polles ekatontades disekatommyria draxmes ta posa poy apaitoyntai, prokeimenoy na doqoyn aytes oi ayjhseis stis syntajeis twn ektos OGA syntajioyxwn. Mono gia toys syntajioyxoys toy IKA, to poso ayto anerxetai sta 430 disekatommyria draxmes. An symperilambanane toys syntajioyxoys toy Dhmosioy kai toys alloys syntajioyxoys tote to synolo twn dapanwn qa odhgoyse thn oikonomia se dhmosionomikh katastrofh. Ayto qelei h N. D.; Tetoies ejaggelies ginontai me tropo, o opoios deixnei megalh proxeirothta kai aneyqynothta, apo thn pleyra ths Neas Dhmokratias. Mporoyme na ypologisoyme to oikonomiko kostos, tis dapanes poy apaitoyntai, alla den mporoyme na ypologisoyme, giati einai anypologisto, to kostos poy prokaleitai gia thn antagwnistikothta, gia thn apasxolhsh, gia th staqerh poreia ths xwras mas pros thn ONE. Einai aneyqynothta na mila me toso epipolaio tropo, gia toso sobara qemata, o proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias.

Pisteyoyme oti oi yposxeseis aytes qa pernoysan sto xwro toy grafikoy, an den ekryban pragmatikoys kindynoys gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai thn prooptikh ths. Aytos o aneyqynos logos einai koroidia, giati ypotima th nohmosynh twn politwn. Kai otan o logos aytos afora toso shmantika qemata gia th zwh twn politwn den synista aplws dhmagwgia, einai ntroph.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Xqes, akoysame ton k. Karamanlh. Labros kata ths kybernhshs. Akoyme th dikh sas apanthsh, twra, labros gia osa eipe o k. Karamanlhs. Kai dierwtatai kaneis, ayth h ojythta ths antiparaqeshs, metajy twn dyo megalwn kommatwn, h opoia, kata thn ektimhsh pollwn politwn, exei kaqara proeklogikh xroia, se poio baqmo pisteyete prwton, oti bohqaei th xwra na exei staqerh poreia pros thn ONE, deyteron, na exei omalh politikh ejelijh kai na mh diataraxqei apo olh ayth thn ojythta to "kalo klima" politikhs antiparaqeshs poy mexri twra diathroyntan;

REPPAS: Exw kat` epanalhch dhlwsei kai epanalambanw, oti emeis qewroyme antipalo mas ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn th xwra kai ton ellhniko lao. Den mas endiaferei mia xwris periexomeno antiparaqesh me th N. D. kai ta alla kommata. Exoyme sygkekrimenh politikh, exoyme programma, to opoio efarmozoyme. H efarmogh aytoy toy programmatos exei odhghsei s` ayta ta qetika apotelesmata se oloys toys tomeis. H N. D. einai ayth h opoia se plhrh sygxysh, me antifaseis, me aneyqyno tropo, epixeirei na skiasei to qetiko apotelesma ths kybernhtikhs politikhs kai epididetai syxna se mia pleiodosia akoma kai se pedia, opoy ayto einai eqnikws epizhmio. Ayto kathgoroyme, ayto kataggelloyme, epeidh o k. Karamanlhs qewrei oti h Ellada exei odhghqei me thn kybernhsh toy PASOK, peripoy, sthn katastrofh. Emeis, apantoyme me thn alhqeia toy ergoy mas, me sygkekrimena stoixeia ta opoia martyroyn oti h Ellada exei katakthsei ena idiaitero epipedo, zhleyto gia tis alles xwres ths notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs. Ena epipedo, to opoio thn kaqista mia isxyrh kai sygxronh xwra mesa sthn E. E. kai th diasfalizei, oson afora kindynoys poy aforoyn thn poreia ths. Milw gia thn entajh sthn ONE. Dyo programmata sygklishs ths N. D., apetyxan patagwdws. To programma poy efarmozei h kybernhsh toy PASOK odhgei me bebaiothta sthn entajh ths xwras sthn ONE. Emeis, epeidh miloyme me thn alhqeia toy ergoy mas, epiqymoyme thn kritikh otan einai epoikodomhtikh. Den epiqymoyme thn ektojeysh kathgoriwn poy yponomeyoyn ayth thn prospaqeia, h opoia einai eqnikh prospaqeia. Gi` ayto, akribws, kaloyme th N. D., an den mporei na askhsei, toylaxiston, epoikodomhtikh antipoliteysh kai kritikh, as protimhsei th siwph. Giati kai ayto, einai mia symbolh, me dedomenh th mexri twra stash ths N. D., h opoia katastrofologei, paroysiazei ta panta san na einai dialymena s` ayto ton topo, thn wra poy h empeiria olwn twn politwn einai apolytws diaforetikh kai apokalyptei oti h Ellada brisketai sthn kalyterh apo pote katastash.

MIXAHL: Toytwn doqentwn kai afoy h N. D. ta kanei ola ayta gia na skiasei tis epityxies sas, eseis giati mpainete se syzhthsh mazi ths;

REPPAS: Den einai nohto, sto plaisio toy dhmokratikoy dialogoy, na mh dinontai apanthseis se proklhseis kai kathgories poy diatypwnontai apo thn allh pleyra. Einai stoixeiwdes xreos mas. Alla emeis, stis apanthseis poy dinoyme, xrhsimopoioyme stoixeia kai sygkekrimena epixeirhmata. Den xrhsimopoioyme koyfia logia, oyte xarakthrismoys poy den exoyn kanena periexomeno. Symmaxos mas -epanalambanw- einai h pragmatikothta, opws diamorfwqhke meta thn askhsh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs apo tis kybernhseis toy PASOK, ta teleytaia xronia.

FILHS: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei, ayrio, thn hgesia ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs toy 2004. Epeidh legontai aytes tis hmeres diafora, epikeitai kapoia allagh;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei tetoio qema. Asfalws, exw ypoch moy kapoia dhmosieymata, alla den einai ayto to nohma ths synanthshs. H synanthsh einai programmatismenh poly prin doyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas ta sygkekrimena keimena, epeidh akribws o Prwqypoyrgos qelei na parakoloyqei pws ejelissetai h doyleia poy kanei h Organwtikh Epitroph.

FILHS: Oyte apotelei kapoia momfh gia to ergo ths Epitrophs, oti dhladh proxwrei me brady ryqmo;

REPPAS: Exei synanthqei kai pali me thn hgesia ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs. Synantatai se takta diasthmata, prokeimenoy na enhmerwnetai gia thn poreia ths proetoimasias, enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004.

FILHS: Rwtaw an apotelei an oxi kapoioy eidoys momfh, alla ena endiaferon poy exei to xarakthra elegxoy.

REPPAS: Qa elega oti einai timhtiko na synantatai kapoios me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Den nomizw oti einai stoixeio poy krybei kapoia momfh, kapoia kathgoria.

MEGGRELHS: Yparxei qema paraithshs toy k. Mpakoyrh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Den eimai mesa sto myalo toy k. Mpakoyrh, alla oydepote teqhke tetoio qema.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: O k. Mpakoyrhs qa einai ekei ayrio;

REPPAS: Asfalws.

KARAGIANNH: Opws mas eipate, o Prwqypoyrgos parakoloyqei stena oles aytes tis drasthriothtes gia thn pragmatopoihsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Qa hqela na rwthsw, einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo toys ryqmoys aytoys poy akoloyqoyntai; Kai epishs, an einai mesa stis proqeseis ths, to endexomeno h kataskeyh twn ergwn poy apaitoyntai na anateqei sthn armodiothta toy ypoyrgeioy Aqlhtismoy kai ths Epitrophs megalwn ergwn kai na fygei apo thn Organwtikh Epitroph;

REPPAS: Ej oswn stoixeiwn exoyme sth diaqesh mas, prokyptei oti eimaste xronika epikairoi, eimaste entos twn xronikwn proqesmiwn poy exoyme pei. H plhrhs eikona gia to pws ejelissetai to ergo ayto, den moy einai gnwsth. Alloi einai armodioi na milhsoyn gi` ayto. Pisteyw oti h ektelesh twn megalwn ergwn me thn eyqynh toy enos h toy alloy forea -kai sto shmeio ayto mporw na pw oti h Genikh Grammateia Aqlhtismoy qa exei mia megalyterh parembash sthn ektelesh twn ergwn aytwn, logw ths empeirias poy exei kai ths ypodomhs poy diaqetei- qa exei oloklhrwqei, thn katallhlh stigmh, wste na eimaste etoimoi gia th spoydaia ayth diorganwsh.

KWSTANTHS: Epeidh xrhsimopoihsate, shmera, asynhqista bareis xarakthrismoys gia th N. D. kai epeidh fhmologeitai h yparjh kapoiwn dhmoskophsewn poy fernoyn to kybernwn komma ligo mprosta apo th N. D., mhpws yparxei kapoia allagh stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs gia to xrono dienergeias twn eklogwn kai an oxi, protiqetai na diathrhsete to yfos ayto, prokalwntas isws mia paratetamenh proeklogikh periodo;

REPPAS: Emeis eimaste synepeis sthn ypoxrewsh poy exoyme analabei apenanti ston ellhniko lao, na logodothsoyme enwpion toy me thn oloklhrwsh ths tetraetoys qhteias mas kai na zhthsoyme, tote kai pali, thn chfo toy gia na kybernhsoyme gia mia nea tetraetia. Den apotelei dikh mas epilogh h prosfygh stis kalpes prin oloklhrwqei h periodos ayth. Alla, bebaiws, eimaste etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme ola ta endexomena, poly perissotero ekeino poy proballei, meta thn emmonh ths N. D. kai toy arxhgoy ths, gia taytish ths diadikasias ekloghs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias me ta mikrokommatika sxedia ths gia prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes. H xrhsimopoihsh, dhladh, mias qesmikhs diadikasias, poy kata to Syntagma epiballetai na einai sto megisto dynato baqmo synainetikh, ws aformh prokeimenoy na prowqhqoyn mikrokommatika sxedia. Emeis, den xrhsimopoioyme asynhqista sklhrh glwssa. Xrhsimopoioyme th glwssa ths alhqeias.

Otan o k. Karamanlhs mas kathgorei oti exoyme dhmioyrghsei thn Ellada h ena kratos "tzoympe", jerete ti shmainei ayto; Kathgorei thn kybernhsh h opoia exei qespisei to Anwtato Symboylio Epiloghs Proswpikoy -mias kai syzhtoysame gi` ayto prin- exei proxwrhsei se antikeimenikopoihsh twn diadikasiwn proslhchs twn politwn sto Dhmosio, exei antimetwpisei fainomena faylothtas kai palaiokommatismoy, prowqwntas politikes eksygxronismoy ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs, toy ellhnikoy kratoys kai para tayta, kathgoreitai me ayto to xarakthrismo apo ton k. Karamanlh. Gnwrizete poios htan o "tzoympes".

FILHS: Htan prwqypoyrgos...

REPPAS: Nai, alla gnwrizete poia htan h stash toy, oson afora thn ejyphrethsh twn chfoforwn toy ej Ydras, me apotelesma ayth h politikh symperifora na taytistei me ton idio kai shmeiologika na xarakthristei me ayto to kalymma poy efere sthn kefalh toy. Loipon, as stamathsei ayth h kritikh, h opoia askeitai emmesws pros thn kybernhsh, oti xrhsimopoiei sklhres ekfraseis gia na antiparateqei sth N. D. Den mas endiaferei h antiparaqesh me th N. D., oyte prowqoyme emeis thn ojythta. Emeis qeloyme oikonomikh kai politikh staqerothta, qeloyme omalh roh twn ejelijewn, prokeimenoy etsi na askhsoyme aperispasta to ergo mas. Giati pisteyoyme oti otan oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas, apo ta apotelesmata aytoy toy ergoy, qa antilhfqoyn kai oi pleon kakopistoi, aytoi poy shmera memcimoiroyn h den exoyn akomh peistei, oti ajizei na doqei kai pali h empistosynh toys ston Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh gia mia nea tetraetia. Exoyme kaqe logo na qeloyme na mhn yparxei ojythta. Antiqeta me kapoioys alloys, oi opoioi thn epidiwkoyn, prowqwntas th dhmioyrgia synqhkwn reystothtas, giati etsi pisteyoyn oti mporoyn na paraplanhsoyn to eklogiko swma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai xqes kai shmera milate gia synainetikh diadikasia sthn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias poy problepei to Syntagma. Poy to problepei ayto to Syntagma;

REPPAS: Epanalambanete mia diatypwsh poy xrhsimopoihse, xqes, o ekproswpos ths N. D., o opoios, me dhlwsh toy, me kathgorhse peripoy oti milw gia ypoxrewtikh synainesh. Sthn apanthsh moy kanw ena sxolio: ekeinoi milhsan gia ypoxrewtikh synainesh kai fainetai pws ayto to antilambanontai san apolytws dhmokratiko.

Meta th synanthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me toys politikoys arxhgoys, se ypomnhma poy toy eqese ypoch o proedros ths N. D., me kapoies protaseis, emeis epifylaxqhkame na tis ajiologhsoyme.

To sxolio ths N. D. htan pws efoson ginoyn dektes oi protaseis kai synainesei h kybernhsh, mporoyme na symfwnhsoyme. Ayth einai h ypoxrewtikh synainesh poy aspazetai h N. D. kai kakws egkalei emas.

Oson afora twra to sygkekrimeno qema, gnwrizete poly kala, oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias den einai arxhgos paratajhs, den einai arxhgos kommatos. Kata to Syntagma brisketai sthn koryfh ths politeiakhs pyramidas, ekfrazei thn eqnikh omocyxia kai eylogo einai, oloi na epidiwkoyme thn eyryterh dynath synainesh gia thn eklogh toy proswpoy ekeinoy poy qa yperbainei ta oria mias kommatikhs epiloghs, wste h eklogh enos proswpoy sto ajiwma ayto na antapokrinetai plhrws stis prodiagrafes toy Syntagmatos. Ayth einai h dikh mas epidiwjh. Me ayth thn epilogh, kata thn prohgoymenh diadikasia, odhghqhkame sto proswpo toy shmerinoy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, o opoios pisteyoyme -peran olwn twn allwn- me th mexri shmera qhteia toy, exei apodeijei oti ajizei thn anagnwrish olwn twn kommatwn, olwn twn politwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh opoion proteinete eseis;

REPPAS: Emeis den proxwrhsame se ypodeijh kommatikoy paragonta tote, oyte twra. Ayto akribws, epeidh pisteyoyme oti antapokrinetai sto pneyma toy Syntagmatos poy qelei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias yperanw twn kommatwn. Kaname mia epilogh tote kai twra poy yperbainei kata poly -kai einai gnwsto ayto- ta kommatika mas synora.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kai protash gia ton k. Kyrko. Giati den thn chfizete;

REPPAS: Milhsame kai gia to proswpo toy k. Kyrkoy. H xwra exei Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Oloi aytoi oi opoioi miloyn me filikoys logoys gia ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, qa perimenoyme toys logoys aytoys na toys metafrasoyn se sygkekrimenh praktikh epilogh, gia na exoyn antikrisma alhqeias oi logoi toys. Ektos an xrhsimopoioyntai ws ypekfygh enanti twn megalwn eyqynwn poy exoyn apenanti ston ellhniko lao kai to eklogiko swma, na diasfalisoyn th staqerh poreia ths xwras, poly perissotero poy ekeinh thn periodo qa krinontai krisima qemata gia ta epomena xronia.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mia kai milame gia thn eklogh Proedroy, ekane mia dhlwsh xqes o k. Giannopoylos kai eipe oti to 1985 kata thn krisimh chfoforia gia thn eklogh toy k. Sartzetakh, den ton eixe chfisei. Qymaste tote, oti eixan epistrateytei kai o k. G. Aleyras kai ta perifhma galazia kai leyka chfodeltia. Qa hqela ena sxolio gia olh ayth thn entos h ektos eisagwgikwn apokalych toy k. Giannopoyloy, gia na symperilhfqei kai ayto sthn katagrafh ths politikhs istorias.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti tote h chfoforia htan mystikh. O k. Giannopoylos chfise kata krish, kata syneidhsh. Den prokeitai na epiblhqei kapoia poinh twra ston k. Giannopoylo, gia ekeinh thn epilogh toy!

TAKHS: To rwtw giati bghke tote me 180 o k. Sartzetakhs kai h chfos htan kaqoristikh.

REPPAS: Ta politika symperasmata dika sas. Dinete kai mia kalh apanthsh ston k. Stamatopoylo

FILHS: Epeidh erxetai kai epanerxetai sth rhtorikh ths kybernhshs, alla kai ths antipoliteyshs to qema ths ekloghs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos skeftetai ena pio syntetagmeno tropo, mia pio syntetagmenh politikh diadikasia, apenanti ths opoias ola ta kommata na ekfrasoyn tis apoceis toys gia to problhma ths epiloghs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias; Gia paradeigma, mia syzhthsh sth Boylh h ena kyklo synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn; Diaforetika, to na "petaei petres" o enas ston allon apo tis thleoraseis, gia to qema aytoti bgazei;

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw oti gia to qema ayto dyo kommata, to PASOK kai o Synaspismos exoyn aposafhnisei th stash toys. Briskw oti einai poly logiko to qema poy qetete kai den apokleioyme thn epomenh periodo, thn katallhlh stigmh, o Prwqypoyrgos na antimetwpisei sto plaisio tetoiwn diaboyleysewn to sygkekrimeno zhthma.

FILHS: Kai sth Boylh;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti sto plaisio tetoiwn synanthsewn mporei na antimetwpistei ayto to qema. Einai kati poy den to apokleiw. Mh qelete na odhghqoyme shmera se anakoinwsh gia to pws kai pote qa proboyme se sygkekrimenes energeies. Toyth thn wra mporw na sas pw oti ayto to qema, etsi opws to proseggizete, to proseggizete logika. Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na kanei katallhles kinhseis gia th synainetikh eklogh Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

KARAGIANNH: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo ta apotelesmata ths synanthshs toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me ton Toyrko omologo toy sth Nea Yorkh; Kai, antimetwpizei qetika to endexomeno mias trimeroys synanthshs sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, to Noembrio, me thn paroysia twn kyriwn Klinton, Shmith kai Etzebit, opws protiqetai na proteinei h k. Olmprait;

REPPAS: Den problepetai, ayth thn wra, opoiadhpote synanthsh me ayth th synqesh. Ayto to opoio eipame kai epanalambanw, einai toyto: einai eyxaristh h ejelijh ths dhmioyrgias enos klimatos mh entashs metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias thn teleytaia periodo. Ayto to klima -to opoio einai kalytero se sxesh me to parelqon- den qa prepei na apotelesei mia parenqesh. Isa-isa qa prepei na apotelesei th bash, thn afethria gia plhrh ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn.

Ayto omws mporei na ginei tote -kai monon tote- otan h Toyrkia allajei thn politikh poy akoloyqei se basika gia mas qemata, opws einai h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E., kai to kypriako qema, wste na dhmioyrghqoyn alles synqhkes, allo periballon, entos toy opoioy oi dyo xwres mporoyn pleon na syzhtoyn kai na synergazontai se isotimh bash. Ayto den fainetai oti ayth thn wra einai efikto. Me ayth thn ennoia, mporei na pei kaneis -gia na apanthsw eyqews sto erwthma sas- oti bebaiws, yparxei mia ikanopoihsh gia to oti exoyme eiselqei se mia periodo mh entashs stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Bebaiws, yparxei problhmatismos h kai dysareskeia gia to oti h Toyrkia den kanei ta bhmata poy ths analogoyn, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se lysh megalwn problhmatwn kai etsi sthn plhrh ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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