Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-05-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* Shmera to brady, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth Larisa, sto plaisio twn proeklogikwn sygkentrwsewn.

* Ayrio qa ginei sth Boylh pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh, h opoia qa exei antikeimeno thn krish sthn eyryterh perioxh kai th stash ths Elladas.

* Ypenqymizw oti o Prwqypoyrgos apesteile epistolh stoys hgetes twn xwrwn-melwn ths E. E., enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs poy qa ginei sthn Kolwnia tis epomenes hmeres. O Prwqypoyrgos sthn epistolh toy ayth qetei kai pali ws epitaktikh thn anagkh anazhthshs politikhs lyshs sthn krish toy Kossyfopedioy. Pisteyei pws prepei oi hgetes ths Eyrwphs na broyn enan tropo, analambanontas tis eyqynes toys, prokeimenoy na symbaloyn sthn eirhneysh sthn perioxh. H E. E. prepei na apodeijei ayth thn ikanothta ths, lambanontas prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato na termatistei o polemos.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Papandreoy kai o Prwqypoyrgos exoyn diatypwsei thn idea oti prepei na yparjei anakwxh, na stamathsei o polemos kai oi bombardismoi, prokeimenoy na dieykolynqei h politikh lysh ths krishs. Xqes o k. Papandreoy, meta th synanthsh toy me thn ka Olmprait, eipe oti h Ellada epimenei oti prepei na ginoyn apodektoi apo ton k. Milosebits oi 5 oroi poy exei qesei to NATO. Ayto den synista anakwxh twn bombardismwn. Ti apo ta dyo proteinei h kybernhsh; Toys 5 oroys h anakwxh;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei kanei poly safh th qesh ths. Exoyme pei pws h symfwnia ths Omadas twn 8 xwrwn -kai sthn Omada ayth gnwrizete poly kala oti symmetexei kai ekproswpos twn HPA- exei katalhjei se ena sxedio, to opoio pisteyoyme oti apotelei mia kalh bash gia thn enarjh twn syzhthsewn kai ton termatismo ths krishs. Epishs to NATO exei diatypwsei mia protash pros thn pleyra ths gioygkoslabikhs kybernhshs. Symmetexoyme sto NATO. Asfalws, mas ekfrazei kai ayth h qesh. Otidhpote odhgei sthn enarjh syzhthsewn, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei to syntomotero dynato politikh lysh sthn krish, antilambaneste pws mas briskei symfwnoys. Me ayth thn ennoia, diatypwnoyme tis protaseis mas se dimeres h polymeres epipedo, apo thn allh eimaste parontes se oles ekeines tis diadikasies oi opoies exoyn enan politiko xarakthra, prokeimenoy na anazhthsoyme lysh sto problhma.

FILHS: Den antilambaneste oti einai diaforetikes qeseis oi 5 oroi-telesigrafo toy NATO kai h protash gia anakwxh; Den to katalabainete ayto;

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw dhlwseis poy exei kanei h ka Olmprait, h opoia leei "bebaiws diatypwnontai apoceis poy einai diaforetikes. Kaqe kybernhsh exei tis apoceis ths". Ayto kai mono, estw kai emmesws, dinei apanthsh kai sto erwthma sas gia to an h ellhnikh kybernhsh prowqei kai proballei tis apoceis poy qewrei swstes kai epibeblhmenes, prokeimenoy na broyme mia politikh lysh sthn krish toy Kossyfopedioy.

FILHS: Giati o k. Papandreoy xqes, enwpion ths kas Olmprait, eipe oti h Ellada epimenei gia toys 5 oroys ston Milosebits; Ayto syndyazetai, einai se armonia, exei logikh synepagwgh, me thn protash anakwxhs poy proteinei h Ellada;

REPPAS: Asfalws, syndyazetai kai einai se armonia, giati einai ena deigma toy pws symmetexoyme sto synolo twn prwtoboyliwn poy exoyn anaptyxqei, prokeimenoy na epanelqei h eirhneysh sthn perioxh. Einai poly logiko na syndyazontai ayta. Gnwrizete poly kala oti kata kairoys exoyn ginei diafores protaseis, apo tote poy diatypwsame thn protash gia katapaysh toy pyros, enocei twn eortwn toy Pasxa. Alloi hgetes exoyn kanei analoges dhlwseis, opws o k. Nt' Alema gia synafes qema. Emeis se dimeres h polymeres epipedo, symmetexontas energa, exoyme diatypwsei epishs diafores skeceis, oi opoies exoyn pantote ton idio skopo, ton termatismo ths krishs. Paramenoyme se ayth thn politikh.

FILHS: Apo thn edra toy NATO metadidetai oti h Ellada exei synainesei na xrhsimopoihsei to NATO eji megala aerodromia -isws kai to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy- mazi me to limani ths Qessalonikhs, gia thn egkairh metafora twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn sthn PGDM, poy proorizontai, me to kamoyflaz ths eirhneytikhs parembashs, gia th xersaia epembash sto Kossyfopedio. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean epibebaiwnete ayto, oti h Ellada exei dwsei to O. K., opws leei to NATO, gia ta eji megala aerodromia, prokeimenoy meta tis eyrwekloges h kai ligo prin apo th Qessalonikh, na dierxontai ta natoika strateymata.

REPPAS: Prwton, den to epibebaiwnw. Den exei teqei tetoio qema, oyte exei labei tetoia apofash h ellhnikh kybernhsh h exei dwsei thn egkrish ths gia xrhsimopoihsh aytwn twn epigeiwn staqmwn, prokeimenoy na dielqoyn stratiwtikes dynameis. Apo thn allh, ypenqymizw oti h Ellada exei pei, edw kai para poly kairo, oti qa einai paroysa kai qa labei meros se dynameis stratiwtwn, oi opoioi qa exoyn eirhneytikh apostolh sthn perioxh. Mia sxetikh apofash exei lhfqei edw kai poly kairo. H apofash ayth allaje ws pros to ycos ths dynamhs twn stratiwtwn, poy pantws den qa exoyn ejoplismo kai efodia tetoia, wste na einai dynato na laboyn meros se polemikes epixeirhseis. Ayto, omws, den einai qema toy parontos, den einai qema to opoio tiqetai wste na prepei na to antimetwpisoyme shmera h ayrio. Epanalambanw, loipon, oti den yparxei apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs opoiadhpote tetoia apanthsh.

FILHS: Eimai proqymos na dextw thn kathgorhmatikh diabebaiwsh sas. Wstoso proxqes, s' aythn edw thn aiqoysa to meshmeri, mas diabebaiwnate oti einai prowro na milhsoyme gia ayjhsh ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs. To meshmeri, meta apo 2 wres, h Ellada synainoyse sto na ayjhqei h dynamh apo 28.000 se 50.000 andres. Qa hqela, loipon, otan dinete kathgorhmatikes apanthseis, na mhn einai paraplanhtikes h xwris stoixeia...

REPPAS: Qa epanelqoyme sth syzhthsh poy kaname proxqes. Sas eipa oti den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash kai hmoyn poly akribhs. Otan syzhtoysame edw hmoyn para poly akribhs. Den eixe teqei tetoio qema. Gnwrizete poly kala -giati miloysame isws gia diaforetiko qema- oti h apofash gia thn paroysia stratiwtikwn dynamewn me eirhneytiko rolo exei lhfqei edw kai polloys mhnes. H allagh ws pros ton ariqmo, h opoia apofasisthke kata emmeso tropo, giati ginetai logos gia diplasiasmo toy ariqmoy, egine, meta apo kapoies wres, xwris ayto na einai gnwsto apo prin. Prepei na sas pw oti oi Epitropes toy NATO, h Politikh Epitroph h h Omada twn Monimwn Antiproswpwn, h Stratiwtikh Epitroph, synedriazoyn kaqhmerina, akomh kai dyo fores thn hmera. Ayto to opoio apanthsa egw se sxetikh erwthsh sas isxye. Asfalws den eixe lhfqei tetoia apofash. Kai isxye ayto to opoio eipa, oti ayto den einai qema poy qa to antimetwpisoyme shmera, ayrio. Sas parapempw stis apanthseis poy edwsa kai qa deite oti hmoyn akribhs.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, syggnwmh, alla epeidh einai qema epipedoy toy briefing. Katalabainw th dyskolia poy exete na perasete th grammh ths kybernhshs...

REPPAS: Mh bgazete tetoia symperasmata, k. Filh. Egw katalabainw th dyskolia poy exete eseis na peisete, gia mia politikh thn opoia qelete na yperaspisteite. Qetete erwthseis, qa parete apanthseis.

FILHS: Egw den yperaspizomai politikh, alla to dikaiwma sthn enhmerwsh. Proxqes -diabaste ta praktika- eipate: "einai prowro na milame gia ayjhsh ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs toy NATO", poy qa perasei apo thn Ellada, qa paei sto Kossyfopedio k. lp. Ayto eipate. Kai se mia wra -to prowro poy eipate- stis Bryjelles synainese kai h Ellada.

REPPAS: Sas eipa kai epimenw oti tetoio qema den tiqetai gia thn periodo ayth, gia shmera-ayrio. To eipa me aformh thn proxqesinh sas erwthsh. To epanalambanw shmera me aformh th nea erwthsh poy qesate: Tetoio qema den tiqetai twra.

FILHS: Den elhfqh apofash sto NATO gia meta tis ekloges;

REPPAS: Tetoio qema, k. Filh, prwton den eixe apofasistei thn wra poy syzhtoysame kai deyteron h anaptyjh twn dynamewn aytwn me sygkekrimeno rolo kai apostolh qa ginei, oxi pantws shmera, ayrio. Ayto eipa.

FILHS: Eipate oti "einai prowro na milame shmera gia apofash ayjhsews toy ariqmoy twn stratiwtwn". Einai grapta ola.

REPPAS: Mhn epimenete allo, ekeinh thn wra den yphrxe tetoia apofash.

FILHS: Oxi, den epimenw, qelw na einai safhs h enhmerwsh kai oxi paraplanhtikh.

REPPAS: Frontizw oso mporw me tis mikres moy dynameis. Parakalw ki eseis na kanete to idio me tis poly megalyteres dynameis sas. FILHS: Den einai qema dynamewn, einai qema diaqeshs.

REPPAS: Antilambaneste poia einai, en prokeimenw, h ennoia ths dynamhs. Miloyme genika gia th diaqesh kai ta synafh.

FILHS: Einai kalo na diafylassoyme to epipedo twn erwthsewn kai twn apanthsewn sthn enhmerwsh.

REPPAS: Entajei, k. Filh, entajei.

FILHS: Ma, ti entajei. Otan briskete "ta skoyra" kyrie Ypoyrge, epixeireite na eytelisete tis apanthseis. Gia poio logo;

REPPAS: Ti einai ayta poy lete, k. Filh; Eimai 3,5 xronia edw kai syzhtoyme kaqe mera. Pote den apofeygw th syzhthsh.

FILHS: Kaqe mera syzhtoyme, alla giati ayth h paraplanhsh proxqes; Mas eipate "einai prowro to qema ths ayjhshs twn dynamewn" Kai se mia wra eipe h Ellada "nai" stis Bryjelles. Mh mas apantate tote. Peste mas "den jerw".

REPPAS: Kyrie Filh, eiste en adikw. Sas eipa oti h anaptyjh twn dynamewn aytwn den einai...

FILHS: Scripta manent.

REPPAS: Kalws. Loipon sas parapempw -egw thn ekana prwtos thn protash- stis apanthseis poy edwsa ekeinh thn hmera.

FILHS: Wraia. Ayrio na anatrejoyme sta praktika, ti apanthsate akribws. Sto shmerino briefing na yparxei olh h apanthsh sas, gia na katalaboyme ti apanthsate.

REPPAS: Eidate, loipon, oti eseis exete ena epiqetiko yfos to opoio den armozei se kapoion, o opoios agwnia gia na plhroforhqei pws exoyn ta pragmata.

FILHS: Den qeloyme, kyrie Ekproswpe, na mas dinete paraplanhtikes apanthseis gia qemata zwhs h qanatoy, polemoy h eirhnhs.

REPPAS: Den dinw paraplanhtikes apanthseis kai afhste th dhmagwgia k. Filh. Den tairiazei para mono se mpalkonia eklogwn. Mhn fereste ws ypochfios twn eyrweklogwn. Parakalw na eiste politikos syntakths.

FILHS: Den mporeite na milate kat' ayton ton tropo.

REPPAS: Eseis pws milate kata tropo poy eseis epilegete;

FILHS: Egw sas eipa gia qemata polemoy h eirhnhs, zwhs h qanatoy, qeloyme safeis apanthseis.

REPPAS: Den dexomai thn emmesh kathgoria poy apeyqynete, oti emeis eimaste filoi toy polemoy, oti eimaste anqrwpoi oi opoioi epiqymoyn to qanato synanqrwpwn, enw eseis eiste oi yposthriktes ths eirhnhs h aytoi oi opoioi qeloyn na yperaspistoyn toys synanqrwpoys mas. Ayth thn kathgoria poy emmesws, alla safestata apeyqynete, den th dexomai. Giati ayto kanate. Den to antilhfqhkate, isws

FILHS: Kalws. Oti katalabate, katalabate.

REPPAS: Exw th dynatothta na katalabainw, toylaxiston ayta!

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy xqes ypegrace me thn ka Olmprait kapoia symfwnia gia thn tromokratia. Ti einai ayto mporeite na mas peite; Ti ypegrace;

REPPAS: Ypografhke mia symbash gia thn amoibaia dikastikh syndromh se poinika adikhmata. Ta adikhmata ayta den aforoyn mono to problhma ths tromokratias. Aforoyn akomh kai thn kloph pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, gia na anaferqw se ena paradeigma poy afora kai dikes moy armodiothtes. Den yphrxe tetoia symbash. Ypegrafh pragmati sto plaisio ths synanthshs twn dyo ypoyrgwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exei sxesh me thn tromokratia;

REPPAS: Den exei sxesh mono me thn tromokratia. Exei sxesh me poinika adikhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh prokeitai na ferei nomosxedio gia thn tromokratia;

REPPAS: Oxi, den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pros to paron h den to antimetwpizei kaqoloy;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den exei programmatisei thn katartish tetoioy nomosxedioy kai thn kataqesh toy sth Boylh. Apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh th drasthriothta toy UCK sthn Ellada kai ths CIA;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw poy anafereste, alla den yparxoyn stoixeia ta opoia na apodeiknyoyn oti exoyn ginei paranomes prajeis apo anqrwpoys poy anhkoyn ston UCK h sth CIA. An exete eseis kapoia stoixeia, parakalw na ta qesete ypoch twn armodiwn eisaggelikwn arxwn kai na to kanete amesws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete th xqesinh anakoinwsh ths Astynomias;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw thn anakoinwsh ths Astynomias, opws gnwrizw kai ta dhmosieymata ths efhmeridas sas. Poio einai to erwthma poy qetete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia toys Albanoys poy symmetexoyn, oi opoioi einai anqrwpoi toy UCK 100%.

REPPAS: Poios to leei ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti poios to leei;

REPPAS: Lete oti "einai anqrwpoi toy UCK 100%". Kai mia kai milame gia to epipedo toy briefing, to opoio epikaleitai oti prepei na diathroyme o k. Filhs, sas rwtw poios to leei ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas lew oti anqrwpoi oi opoioi asxoloyntai me thn topoqethsh bombwn, poioi einai; Kai einai jenoi. Den anhkoyn se kapoia yphresia;

REPPAS: Loipon...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai gia gelia; Gia klamata einai.

REPPAS: Ma, bebaia einai gia klamata...

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh einai gia klamata.

REPPAS:... to oti kapoioi meterxontai diafora mesa mono kai mono gia na kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh. Asfalws kai einai gia klamata ayth h meqodos poy xrhsimopoioyn.

Gia to sygkekrimeno qema poy anafereste, exei ginei h proanakrish ypo thn epopteia toy Antieisaggelea k. Diwth, o opoios synergazetai me thn antitromokratikh yphresia. O fakelos exei diabibastei ston proistameno ths Eisaggelias armodiws gia ta peraiterw. Apo kei kai pera, h kybernhsh den exei kamia emplokh. Den antilambanomai ti einai ola ta alla ta opoia yponoeite. As afhsoyme th Dikaiosynh na dialeykanei pws akribws exoyn ta pragmata. Ayto epiqymoyme diakaws ki emeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den exei plhrofories gia drasthriothta toy UCK sthn Ellada.

REPPAS: Afoy exete eseis kapoia stoixeia, parakalw na ta parapemcete armodiws, prokeimenoy na epilhfqoyn oi eisaggelikes arxes. Kante to twra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwtw gia thn kybernhsh an exei kai moy lete oxi.

REPPAS: Ma, eseis eipate oti aytoi einai melh toy UCK. Bgalate apofash monos sas.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn eipate oti den yphrxe mexri twra mia amoibaia dikastikh syndromh kai ypografthke symbash. Qelw na rwthsw: Pws den yphrxe o Koskwtas, otan efyge sthn Amerikh me bash mia symbash ekdoqhke sthn Ellada kai epanhlqe. Pws, loipon, den yphrxe; Epishs, kai gia alla egklhmata poy exoyn ginei eite stis HPA, eite edw, apo yphkooys Ellhnes kai Amerikanoys, exei leitoyrghsei. Ti kainoyrgio prosqetei ayth h symbash; Ektos kai an moy peite oti den proeblepe -ayto poy epikalesthkate- ta peri xrhmatikwn dikaiwmatwn kai allwn tomewn kai twra symperilhfqhkan kai ayta;

REPPAS: Prwton, oi symbaseis exoyn mia orismenh diarkeia kai deyteron, anaferontai se sygkekrimena antikeimena. H symbash poy ypegrafh anaferetai, genikws, sthn yposthrijh poy prepei na prosferoyn oi Yphresies mias xwras stis Yphresies ths allhs xwras, gia thn antimetwpish kaqe eidoys poinikwn adikhmatwn.

MIXAHL: O k. Papandreoy, loipon, proteinei mazi me ton Tsexo synadelfo toy 48wrh ekexeiria. Alla, h ka Olmprait den to dexqhke. H qesh, ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia th lysh ths krishs sto Gioygkoslabiko, einai h diadikastikoy xarakthra protash toy k. Papandreoy gia 48wrh ekexeiria h einai h epi ths oysias syzhthsh, protash toy G-8;

REPPAS: Symmetexoyme se polles prwtoboylies, oi opoies ejelissontai se parallhla epipeda. Gia na prokycei mia lysh, prepei na symbaloyn pros thn idia kateyqynsh synergazomenes oles oi pleyres. Den einai dynaton monoi mas emeis na exoyme thn ceydaisqhsh -den to perimenete oyte eseis ayto- na feroyme to apotelesma to opoio epiqymoyme. Qa prepei na syntrejoyn polloi paragontes pros thn idia kateyqynsh. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei ayth thn protash gia thn proswrinh katapaysh toy pyros, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghqei ena kalytero periballon, wste na dieykolynqei h enarjh twn syzhthsewn. Bash gia thn anazhthsh lyshs epi ths oysias pisteyoyme oti apotelei to sxedio, h symfwnia ths Omadas twn 8 xwrwn. Pisteyoyme oti s` ayth thn kateyqynsh kinoyntai oi perissoteroi -an oxi oloi- paragontes ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, afoy sthn Omada ayth twn 8 ekproswpoyntai kai ebalan thn ypografh toys sto sxetiko sxedio, oi 8 megalyteres xwres toy planhth. Me ayth thn ennoia, loipon, qa prepei na synexisoyme na ergazomaste sthn kateyqynsh poy problepei ayto to sxedio.

KARGOYDH: Qelete na kanete ena sxolio, oson afora thn teleytaia ejelijh sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs;

REPPAS: Prepei na pw oti den prepei na ginetai paranohsh kai sygxysh, metajy toy Dikasthrioy aytoy, poy anaferetai ws Dikasthrio ths Xaghs -kai den einai para to Dikasthrio egklhmatwn polemoy sth Gioygkoslabia, to opoio idryqhke molis ta teleytaia xronia- me to Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, sto opoio anaferomaste emeis. Ayto to opoio, einai entelws diaforetiko kai leitoyrgei edw kai polles 10eties gia thn antimetwpish problhmatwn poy anakyptoyn stis sxeseis metajy xwrwn. Den prepei na ginetai ayth h paranohsh, ayth h sygxysh. An qelete kai ena politiko sxolio, sas lew toyto: Apo thn mia, o k. Milosebits kai h kybernhsh toy kaleitai na syzhthsei me th Dieqnh Koinothta gia thn ejeyresh mias lyshs, kaleitai, dhladh, na paijei enan epoikodomhtiko rolo, ws meros ths lyshs toy problhmatos toy Kossyfopedioy kai apo thn allh, yparxei mia prwtoboylia, symfwna me thn opoia prepei na syllhfqei, afoy ekdidetai entalma enantion toy. Emeis pisteyoyme kai ayth einai h politikh qesh mas, oti ayth h kinhsh einai esfalmenh, den einai politika orqh, giati den symballei sthn eirhneytikh diadikasia.

SOYRMELH: H ellhnikh kybernhsh einai yper ths prwtoboylias toy G-8. Wstoso, einai kai aytoi oloi toy NATO. Ap` oti fainetai, xqes to brady o k. Papandreoy meta th synanthsh toy me thn ka Olmprait, eipe oti prepei na epilyqei ayto to qema, twn orwn toy NATO. Mporeite na mas to ierarxhsete;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin se sxetikh erwthsh.

SOYRMELH: Apanthsate, alla to problhma einai oti den einai poly ierarxhmenh h apanthsh sas.

REPPAS: Eipa oti symmetexoyme se polles prwtoboylies, poy ejelissontai se diafora epipeda. Kaqe protash h opoia symballei sthn politikh lysh ths krishs toy Kossyfopedioy mas briskei symfwnoys. Symmetexoyme stis prospaqeies poy ginontai kai to idio qa synexisoyme na kanoyme kai thn epomenh periodo, oso qa diarkei h krish.

FILHS: Exei programmatistei kapoia episkech Ellhna ypoyrgoy, toy k. Papandreoy toy k. Kranidiwth, sto Beligradi;

REPPAS: Oxi, den exei programmatistei tetoio tajidi.

FILHS: Kata th diarkeia toy polemoy yphrje kapoia episkech toy k. Papandreoy sto Beligradi;

REPPAS: Oxi. Den exei yparjei tetoia episkech.

FILHS: O rolos ths Elladas, opws ton antilambanetai h kybernhsh, gia to qema toy polemoy den perilambanei mia tetoia prwtoboylia;

REPPAS: Yparxei synexhs epikoinwnia, yparxei anoiktos diaylos, mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy, me thn kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias.

FILHS: Kai thlefwnikh epikoinwnia;

REPPAS: Bebaiws yparxei kai thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me toys ekproswpoys ths kybernhshs ths Gioygkoslabias. O k. Papandreoy, opws sas eixe anakoinwsei gnwstopoiwntas sas, malista kai to periexomeno ths syzhthshs, exei epikoinwnia me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Giobanobits.

MOYRZTHS: Sas apeyqynete h kathgoria oti yponomeyete th leitoyrgia ths aytomaths chfiakhs thleorashs kai oti me safh dikh sas entolh pros thn ERT, zhthsate na ajiwsei ayjhsh toy posostoy symmetoxhs. Malista, diabasa shmera sthn "ELEYQEROTYPIA", oti ayth h energeia einai prosxhmatikh, giati sthn oysia prokeitai gia aprokalypto ekbiasmo pros thn MULTICHOICE enocei Eyrweklogwn. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h Politeia exei qespisei kanones, oroys kai proypoqeseis gia thn anaptyjh aytwn twn epixeirhmatikwn drasthriothtwn. Einai qema twn idiwn twn forewn poy epiqymoyn na symmetasxoyn kai na anaptyjoyn tetoioy eidoys drasthriothtes, na synennohqoyn kai na symfwnhsoyn h oxi an qa synergastoyn. Egw gnwrizw oti symfwna me ta osa problepei o nomos, mia aithsh mono mexri twra toylaxiston exei ypoblhqei apo thn etaireia MULTICHOICE. H aithsh ayth krinetai, hdh, sto ESR. Anamenw thn apofash toy, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyme sthn ekdosh ths adeias, afoy syzhthsoyme me toys ekproswpoys ths etaireias gia thn katartish ths symbashs paraxwrhshs, opws problepei o nomos. Apo kei kai pera, h kybernhsh den empleketai se leitoyrgies h dieyqethseis idiwtikwn symferontwn.

Se ena kratos dikaioy yparxoyn kanones, oi opoioi prostateyoyn to symferon twn politwn kai twn epixeirhmatiwn. H kybernhsh akoloyqei mia politikh, h opoia sebetai kai prostateyei ta idiwtika symferonta, alla, taytoxrona, diasfalizei to eqniko, to koinwniko kai to dhmosio symferon. Den exoyme h kybernhsh kai egw opoiadhpote symmetoxh se opoiesdhpote diergasies poy odhgoyn sth synach mias symfwnias gia thn anaptyjh ayths ths neas epixeirhmatikhs drasthriothtas. Einai qema twn forewn poy syzhtoyn, opoioi syzhtoyn kai opote syzhtoyn, na symfwnhsoyn h oxi. Alla, antilambaneste poly kala oti h kybernhsh den prokeitai afenos, na dexqei parabiash toy nomoy kai afeteroy, anaptyjh aytwn twn drasthriothtwn xwris ikanopoihsh twn orwn kai twn proypoqesewn poy problepei to qesmiko plaisio poy exoyme katartisei.

H sygkekrimenh etaireia, epeidh gnwrizw ta sxetika dhmosieymata ths "ELEYQEROTYPIAS", efoson parei thn adeia mporei na proxwrhsei sthn anaptyjh aytwn twn drasthriothtwn. Den thn empodizei kaneis. Ola ta antiqeta poy legontai, legontai gia profaneis skopimothtes, tis opoies mporei o kaqenas na ypoqesei. Egw den qelw na tis parakoloyqhsw. Oydeis thn empodizei. Mporei na proxwrhsei aperispasth -yparxei plaisio- efoson exei tis proypoqeseis. O kaqe endiaferomenos krinetai aytotelws. Oydeis mporei na empodisei thn anaptyjh ayths ths drasthriothtas. Oydeis, giati yparxei kratos dikaioy sthn Ellada. Alla, bebaiws, oi foreis eite idiwtikoi, eite foreis toy Dhmosioy -ypo th stenh h eyreia ennoia- qa kanoyn tis epiloges toys me gnwmona to diko toys symferon. Oydeis mporei na epibalei mia allh epilogh stoys foreis aytoys.

FILHS: Poia einai h qesh ths Elladas sthn epixeiroymenh apo alles eyrwpaikes xwres ejwsh apo ton eyrwpaiko doryforo ths serbikhs thleorashs;

REPPAS: Sto plaisio apofasewn poy exoyn lhfqei gia thn epibolh metrwn embargo sth Gioygkoslabia, se diaforoys tomeis, ginontai protaseis, diatypwnontai idees, poy aytoi oi opoioi tis diatypwnoyn pisteyoyn oti dhmioyrgoyn ena plaisio pieshs pros thn pleyra ths Gioygkoslabias, wste na proselqei, to syntomotero dynato, sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. Emeis, apo thn prwth stigmh, eimaste poly epifylaktikoi sth lhch tetoiwn metrwn, giati qewroyme oti einai kai anapotelesmatika kai -en pash periptwsei- den synadoyn me tis prospaqeies poy kataballontai gia mia politikh kai eirhnikh diapragmateysh kai lysh.

FILHS: Den exei lhfqei apofash gia ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ayth th leptomereia. Gnwrizw poia einai h genikh qesh mas. Eimaste se ola ayta ta qemata poly epifylaktikoi. Kai tis epifylajeis mas tis diatypwnoyme.

FILHS: An den gnwrizete, k. Ypoyrge, pws eiste epifylaktikos; An exei lhfqei h apofash, h Ellada ti chfise;

REPPAS: Se oles tis periptwseis poy syzhtoyntai metra poy aforoyn embargo sth Gioygkoslabia, periorismo drasthriothtwn ths Gioygkoslabias se dieqnes epipedo h elegxo drasthriothtwn ston eyrytero xwro, emeis diatypwnoyme tis epifylajeis mas h apexoyme apo th lhch twn apofasewn. Ayto to exoyme pei apo thn arxh. FILHS: Epeidh eiste Ypoyrgos Typoy gnwrizete ti chfise h Ellada sth sxetikh diadikasia;

REPPAS: Prwton, den gnwrizw ti chfise h Ellada, doqentos oti ayto to qema den afora to ypoyrgeio moy. Kai deyteron, sas eipa oti h qesh mas einai ayth kai einai safhs. Den xrhsimopoioyme to dikaiwma ths arnhsikyrias, den apoxwroyme apo tis syzhthseis, pantote kai ek prooimioy diatypwnoyme tis epifylajeis mas h apexoyme kata th lhch tetoiwn metrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos zhta synexeia qysies apo ton ellhniko lao. Gia na mpoyme sthn ONE, gia na anakamcei h oikonomia. Pws dikaiologeitai, omws, apo thn allh pleyra, na moirazoyn oi Ypoyrgoi gia yperwries, 1dis 200 ekatommyria draxmes, stoys symboyloys toys;

REPPAS: Anafereste se sxetiko qema poy exei egeirei h N. D. Einai asteia ta epixeirhmata ta opoia xrhsimopoiei h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn synadelfoi sas -kai sto ypoyrgeio Typoy- oi opoioi ergazontai ta Sabbatokyriaka kai tis argies, para polles wres. Den qa prepei na exoyn thn analogh amoibh; Ayto panta problepotan kai isxyei kai twra ayto poy panta isxye. Den qespizoyme kapoioys neoys kanones amoibwn. Aporw pws qetoyn kapoioi ayto to qema. Apla, zhthsan stoixeia, mesw ths diadikasias toy koinoboyleytikoy elegxoy boyleytes ths N. D. kai exoyn sth diaqesh toys kapoia stoixeia gia kondylia poy aforoyn plhrwmh yperwriwn h amoibes ergazomenwn ta Sabbatokyriaka kai tis argies. Kai xrhsimopoioyn to stoixeio ayto, ws deigma spatalhs toy kratoys. Pisteyw oti einai katwtero ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na xrhsimopoiei tetoia epixeirhmata, gia na apodeijei dhqen oti exoyme ychles dapanes h spatales toy Dhmosioy.

SOYRMELH: Otan bghke apo th synanthsh me thn ka Olmprait, o k. Papandreoy eipe oti to qema ths tromokratias dhmioyrgei problhmata akomh kai stis diplwmatikes prospaqeies ths Elladas k. a. Qa mporoysate na mas anaptyjete ayto to shmeio, se syndyasmo me kapoio sygkekrimeno shmeio poy apofasisthke mesa apo th symfwnia poy ypegrafh. Dhladh, sto qema ths tromokratias qa yparxei synexhs synergasia, qa yparxei antallagh ekproswpwn; Prospaqw na anaptyjw ti qa ginei akribws; Ti neo fernei ayth h symfwnia sto qema ths tromokratias; Ti hqele na ennohsei o k. Papandreoy me ayth th dhlwsh;

REPPAS: Poia dhlwsh toy k. Papandreoy;

SOYRMELH: Meta th synanthsh me thn ka Olmprait eipe oti to qema ths tromokratias dhmioyrgei problhmata akoma kai stis diplwmatikes prospaqeies ths Elladas sto dieqnh xwro.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyn diatypwqei tetoies aitiaseis apo jenes kybernhseis. Exoyme syzhthsei ayto to qema kat` epanalhch. Opws, epishs, gnwrizete poia einai h qesh toys. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs, h opoia brisketai apo apoch dhmosias tajhs kai asfaleias se ychlo epipedo, kalytero apo polles xwres ths Eyrwphs. Den dikaiologeitai ayth h kathgoria poy diatypwnetai kata ths Elladas. H alhqeia einai, omws, oti ayth h aitiash yparxei kai diatypwnetai enantion ths Elladas kai asfalws exei kai tis epiptwseis ths stis diplwmatikes sxeseis.

SOYRMELH: Epanadiatypwqhke apo thn ka Olmprait;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh twn HPA diatypwnei ayth th qesh. Thn exei diatypwsei kai dhmosiws. Ara, yparxei ena shmeio edw opoy oi dyo pleyres, para toy oti yparxei synergasia gia thn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy, exoyn apoceis oi opoies den einai taytoshmes.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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