Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-03-16

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 16 Martioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Ena sxolio, kat' arxhn, ths kybernhshs gia thn paraithsh ths Commission. Poia einai h qesh ths Elladas gia to qema ayto;

REPPAS: H Ellada exei taxqei yper ths diafaneias kai ths dhmokratikhs leitoyrgias twn eyrwpaikwn qesmwn. Meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis h paraithsh ths Commission htan anapofeykth. Einai mia prajh eyqynhs ek meroys ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs h paraithsh poy ypoblhqhke me syllogiko tropo. Emeis epiqymoyme o rolos ths Epitrophs, poy einai poly neyralgikos sto plaisio twn organwn ths E. E., opws kai o rolos toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy na diafylaxqoyn akomh perissotero, giati etsi pisteyoyme oti enisxyetai o dhmokratikos xarakthras ths E. E. Einai qetiko to gegonos oti o Ellhnas Epitropos den exei opoiadhpote emplokh stis kathgories poy apodidontai se melh ths Commission, gia kakodiaxeirish koinotikwn porwn. Eimaste se epikoinwnia kai diaboyleyseis me tis alles xwres, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme sto pws qa kalyfqei to keno poy exei dhmioyrghqei. Pisteyoyme oti h krish ayth qa jeperastei grhgora, giati einai pros to symferon ths E. E., alla kai kaqe kratoys-meloys. Elpizoyme oti aytos o kradasmos einai mikros kai den qa exei dysmeneis synepeies gia th leitoyrgia ths E. E.

MIXAHL: Qelw na rwthsw, paroti o k. Papoytshs den exei kamia anameijh sthn kakodiaxeirish, ean akoma kai twra ejakoloyqei na exei thn empistosynh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: O k. Papoytshs einai o Ellhnas Epitropos. Den eteqh qema, oson afora thn ekproswphsh ths xwras mas, sto plaisio ayths ths qhteias ths E. E. Eipa kai epanalambanw oti eimaste se epikoinwnia me tis alles xwres, prokeimenoy mesw twn diaboyleysewn na katalhjoyme sto tropo anaplhrwshs twn melwn poy paraithqhkan. Allwste, ayrio qa episkefqei th xwra mas o Kagkelarios ths Germanias k. Srenter. To qema ayto qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs. Pisteyw oti oles oi xwres ths E. E. qa katalhjoyn se mia koinh qesh gia thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos poy proekyce.

MIXAHL: To na katalhjoyn se mia koinh politikh qesh oi 15 xwres einai to zhtoymeno, alla ayto einai anejarthto apo to ti qa proteinei kaqe xwra gia thn anaplhrwsh. Sto plaisio ths apofashs, thn opoia pisteyei oti qa symfwnhsoyn oi 15, qelw na rwthsw ean qa epimeinei h kybernhsh na janaproteinei ton k. Papoytsh gia na oloklhrwsh th qhteia toy gia toys ypoloipoys ennea mhnes, ews tis 31.12.99, kaqws einai 5etoys diarkeias h qhteia ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs.

REPPAS: Oi diaboyleyseis qa bohqhsoyn, wste armonika oles oi xwres na kanoyn tis epiloges toys gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos poy dhmioyrghqhke Pisteyw oti telika h antimetwpish toy problhmatos qa ginei me koino tropo apo tis xwres-melh ths E. E. Ayto nomizw apanta se ola.

MIXAHL: O k. Papoytshs einai stis epiloges ths kybernhshs gia th symplhrwsh ths qhteias ths Epitrophs;

REPPAS: Asfalws. Sas eipa oti oi epiloges poy qa kanoyme qa einai se armonia me tis epiloges kai twn allwn kratwn-melwn. Exei analabei th sxetikh prwtoboylia h Proedreia ths E. E. O Kagkelarios Srenter episkeptetai ayrio thn Ellada kai gia to qema ayto qa eishghqei sxetika, prokeimenoy oles oi xwres na kanoyn kinhseis, oi opoies qa exoyn ena sygklinonta xarakthra gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos.

SOYRMELIDHS: H Megalh Bretania, hdh, dhlwse oti efoson o dikos toys Epitropos den feretai anamemeigmenos se opoiadhpote ypoqesh, estw kai mesa apo ayto to porisma, qa ton janaproteinei. H Ellada ti kanei;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti o k. Papoytshs einai o Ellhnas Epitropos. Den eteqh kai den tiqetai opoiodhpote qema. H telikh apofash, h epilogh mas qeloyme na ginei meta thn oloklhrwsh twn diaboyleysewn poy qa exoyme me tis alles xwres ths E. E.

SOYRMELIDHS: Ara, den ton kalyptete, opws oi alles xwres.

REPPAS: Bebaiws kai ton kalyptoyme. Ayto to opoio, omws, prepei na labete ypoch sas einai oti ayth h qesh ths kybernhshs ths Megalhs Bretanias, einai mia qesh, h opoia ekfrasthke. Plhroforoymai oti kai alles kybernhseis exoyn kanei sxetikes dhlwseis h anafores, diaforetikes isws gia to qema ayto. Ayto to opoio sas diafeygei, omws, einai oti aytes einai oi kat' arxhn proseggiseis. Einai oi arxikes qeseis. Qa perimenete na oloklhrwqei aytos o kyklos diaboyleysewn kai tote na bgalete to symperasma sas, giati polla pragmata mporei na allajoyn, se sxesh me ayta poy twra anakoinwnontai.

MIXAHL: Epitrecete moy na epimeinw sto ejhs: Oi Synqhkes einai safeis kai desmeyoyn kai toys 15. Ermhneies den yparxoyn. H qhteia einai 5eths. Ean paraithqei h Epitroph, prepei na janaproteinei kaqe kratos ton Epitropo toy gia toys ypoloipoys ennea mhnes. Stis 31/12/1999 - 1/1/2000 analambanei h nea Epitroph. H kybernhsh Shmith poy twra kyberna thn Ellada proteinei jana ton k. Papoytsh gia toys ypoloipoys ennea mhnes; Nai h oxi; Einai apla ta pragmata.

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ola ayta ta qemata kai hmoyn safhs. Sas eipa oti exoyme mia paraithsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Den prepei na sas diafeygei oti kai ta melh ths idias ths Epitrophs h kapoioi ej aytwn exoyn na poyn kai to diko toys logo. Kapoia melh mporei na mh dexontai na parameinoyn sta kaqhkonta toys gia to enapomeinan diasthma. Kapoia alla melh, isws protaqoyn apo tis xwres toys, kapoia alla melh, isws den protaqoyn. Emeis eimaste ayth thn wra se ayto ton kyklo diaboyleysewn poy den exei oloklhrwqei kai den exei kleisei kai den exoyme tipota allo na poyme gia to pws qa sygkrothqei h Epitroph, h opoia qa dianysei to diasthma, mexri to telos ayths ths 5etias, tonizontas kai pali oti h empistosynh mas ston Ellhna Epitropo einai dedomenh.

KARASABBA: Hqela na rwthsw ean h Ellada yposthrizei thn protash gia th qesh toy Proedroy ths Commission ton Felipe Gkonzales;

REPPAS: Ola ayta ta qemata apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthsewn sto plaisio ths E. E. Exoyn diatypwqei diafores skeceis kai idees. Den exoyn apokrystallwqei, den yparxei kati sygkekrimeno to opoio na apotelei kai th grammh pleyshs, oson afora thn kalych ths qesh toy Proedroy ths Commission. Gia ola ayta ta qemata qa perimenete na kleisei aytos o kyklos twn syzhthsewn, gia na gnwrizete th telikh qesh ths E. E. kai th dikh mas qesh, h opoia, bebaiws, qa antapokrinetai sta symferonta ths xwras kai ta symferonta ths E. E, dioti h qesh toy Proedroy ths Commission einai poly neyralgikh.

KARASABBA: H Ellada einai kata ayths ths egkatastashs;

REPPAS: Den synhqizetai na paroysiazei kapoios tis apoceis toy, otan aytes den exoyn wrimasei toso poly sto stadio aytwn twn syzhthsewn poy briskomaste, wste na einai pros anakoinwsh. Afhste na xrhsimopoihsoyme kai emeis ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas -kai ypo typon diapragmateyshs an qelete- giati antilambaneste pws oles aytes oi syzhthseis exoyn polla epipeda sta opoia ejelissontai. Emeis qeloyme na eimaste parontes se aytes tis syzhthseis. Qa parakoloyqhsoyme tis qeseis twn allwn xwrwn. Qa diatypwsoyme tis dikes mas skeceis kai protaseis, me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras kai ths E. E.

LAKOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish epi ths arxhs qa hqela se ayto to qema: Qa ebriske thn ellhnikh kybernhsh symfwnh mia idea poy fainetai na exei diatypwqei apo kapoies pleyres, na parameinoyn oi nyn Epitropoi kata tomea, oxi oloi, ws yphresiakoi ews th lhjh ths qhteias toys h h gnwmh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai oti prepei na pame se mia opoiadhpote allh lysh, plhn ayths;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola den prepei na prokatalaboyme tis ejelijeis. Einai ayth mia protash, h opoia pragmati diatypwnetai. Se ayth thn periptwsh qa synexistei kai qa oloklhrwqei h qhteia ths Commission me thn paroysa synqesh ths. Den yparxei antilogos. Apo thn allh diatypwnontai kai alles idees kai alles apoceis. Ston kyklo twn diaboyleysewn poy ayth thn wra einai se ejelijh, qa doyme poio einai to prosforotero metro, prokeimenoy na anasthlwqei to kyros ths Epitrophs kai na ejasfalistei, taytoxrona, h apodotikh leitoyrgia ths. H Epitroph ayth exei dianysei mia qhteia tessarwn kai pleon etwn kai asfalws, exei empeiria, exei gnwsh gia ta qemata ta opoia xeirizetai kai einai kai ayto ena shmeio poy prepei na prosmetrhqei, na lhfqei ypoch, alla den einai to mono.

LAKOPOYLOS: Den qa eixe diafwnia h ellhnikh kybernhsh ean prokrinotan h lysh h Epitroph na dianysei me yphresiako tropo to ypoloipo ths qhteias ths; Den eipa gia thn Epitroph, eipa gia toys Epitropoys;

REPPAS: Milhsa gia thn Epitroph poy apartizetai apo Epitropoys. Kai h sygkekrimenh Epitroph exei sygkekrimena Melh-Epitropoys.

LAKOPOYLOS: An leicoyn dyo Epitropoi, h Epitroph menei.

REPPAS: O kyrios qesmos asfalws yparxei. Alla, miloyme gia mia Epitroph poy exei dianysei, me th sygkekrimenh synqesh ths, mia qhteia tessarwn kai pleon etwn. Kai milhsa kai gia to ypoloipo ths qhteias ths, ews to telos ths 5etias. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai, ayth thn wra na mhn kanoyme ypoqeseis, alla, ayth h syzhthsh na meinei sto plaisio ekeino poy prepei na diejaxqei, na oloklhrwqei, gia na exoyme ta kalytera apotelesmata.

MIXAHL: O k. Pagkalos einai stis epiloges ths kybernhshs gia th qesh toy Epitropoy;

REPPAS: Gia ola ayta ta qemata sas exw apanthsei. Sas eipa poios einai o tropos me ton opoio xeirizomaste to sygkekrimeno zhthma. Na meinete se ayta ta opoia exw pei kai pisteyw oti apodidoyn plhrws tis arxes ths politikhs poy akoloyqoyme ston tomea ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Agkyra proteine sto NATO, na metaboyn toyrkika strateymata sto Kossobo, mesw Elladas. Ti apanta h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den yfistatai tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ekane thn protash. Ti apanthse h ti apanta h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den exei diatypwqei pros thn Ellada analogo aithma. Kai sthn periptwsh poy qa eixame kapoio tetoio aithma h apanthsh mas qa htan aporriptikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, o k. Ntemirel, epanhlqe sto qema twn braxonhsidwn. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti meta tis polles dhlwseis poy kanoyn oi Toyrkoi ajiwmatoyxoi se diafora epipeda, h apanthsh stis dhlwseis aytes dinetai apo toys idioys. Giati apokalyptetai oti h Toyrkia me tis proklhtikes kai epiqetikes dhlwseis twn politikwn hgetwn ths, epiqymei na synthrhsei thn entash stis sxeseis ths Toyrkias me thn Ellada. Ayto kaqe allo para symballei sthn kalyterh antimetwpish ths krishs, h opoia exei prokycei kai teleytaia exei labei ojyterh morfh. Den exei sxesh me to pneyma kalhs geitonias h qesh ayth twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn. Isa-isa -qa elega- oti epibebaiwnei thn epiboylh ths Toyrkias pros th xwra mas, thn amfisbhthsh toy eqnikoy mas xwroy. Ola ayta, omws, me ton tropo me ton opoio legontai, oso ki an einai entonos o tropos aytos, pisteyoyme oti paramenoyn se frastiko epipedo. Giati antilambaneste pws an metejelixqoyn se sygkekrimenes prajeis, se prwtoboylies stratiwtikes, odhgoymaste, pia, se mia entash, h opoia qa einai dysmenestath, kyriws gia thn Toyrkia. H Toyrkia einai ypologh gia thn politikh poy akoloyqei se polloys tomeis. Einai ypologh gia th stash ths apenanti sthn Ellada. H Ellada exei thn allhleggyh twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H E. E. qewrei adikaiologhtes kai adikes tis epiqeseis ths Toyrkias enantion ths Elladas. Pisteyoyme oti oi dhlwseis aytes, en katakleidi, ejyphretoyn tis proeklogikes anagkes, enocei twn eklogwn sthn Toyrkia ton erxomeno Aprilio kai den qa exoyn opoiadhpote synexeia kai synepeia. Se mia tetoia periptwsh, antilambaneste poia qa einai h apanthsh ths Elladas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eixame thn prohgoymenh ebdomada kapoio epikindyno epeisodio sto Aigaio metajy ellhnikwn kai toyrkikwn aeroskafwn;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti kapoies hmeres kata to teleytaio diasthma eixame tis gnwstes proklhtikes pthseis twn toyrkikwn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn. Anaxaitisthkan ta aeroskafh ayta. Eixame se kapoies, liges, periptwseis kai emplokes. Den qa elega oti eixame ena epikindyno epeisodio. Qa elega, omws, oti exoyme mia ojythta kai mia ychlh "qermokrasia", h opoia mporei na odhghsei se fwtia. Gi` ayto ekeinoi oi opoioi ferontai me ayto ton tropo, kalo einai na einai perissotero prosektikoi kai pantws na einai synepeis me tis arxes oi opoies prepei na diepoyn tis sxeseis twn kratwn. Giati h Toyrkia, me th stash ths, deixnei oti den sebetai toys kanones aytoys toy Dikaioy. Akoloyqei mia politikh h opoia deixnei pantelh elleich sebasmoy stoys kanones aytoys.

ALEJAKH: Mhpws meta tis toyrkikes ekloges pisteyete oti yparxei edafos, wste na yparjei dialogos metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias;

REPPAS: To qema ths leitoyrgias twn dhmokratikwn kai koinoboyleytikwn qesmwn sthn Toyrkia einai ena problhma, to opoio se megalo baqmo paramenei alyto. Elpizoyme na prokycei sthn Toyrkia mia kybernhsh, h opoia qa diasfalisei th staqerothta sto eswteriko ths xwras kai qa apodeixqei ajiopistos synomilhths me thn E. E., thn Ellada kai th dieqnh koinothta, giati to keno to opoio yparxei shmera sthn Toyrkia, apotelei arnhtiko paragonta gia tis sxeseis ths me th dieqnh koinothta. Einai kati to opoio den mporw na to problecw. Einai kati to opoio afora ton toyrkiko lao kai toys ekproswpoys toy. Emeis epiqymoyme mia staqerh katastash sth geitonikh xwra, pragma to opoio pisteyoyme oti mporei na symbalei sthn anazhthsh lysewn sta yfistamena problhmata, me kalytero tropo.

ALEJAKH: Yparxei mia epistolh toy Proedroy ths Toyrkias toy k. Ntemirel, poy estalh to Genarh ston Amerikano Proedro k. Klinton. Ayth h epistolh bebaiws afora sta qemata ths Toyrkias, alla ginetai mia poly mikrh anafora, me kolakeytika logia, ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. O k. Ntemirel feretai na leei oti einai enas synetos politikos, enas anqrwpos me ton opoio mporoyme na koybentiasoyme. Kai afhnei mia yponoia oti endexomenws meta tis ekloges sthn Toyrkia, isws na yphrxe mia prooptikh dialogoy, se epipedo prwqypoyrgwn pia. Pws to blepete ayto; Pws to sxoliazete;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, oi qetikoi xarakthrismoi gia to proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy erxontai apo polles kateyqynseis. Ayto einai kati para poly shmantiko kai to epishmainw qetika. Pisteyw ki eseis me qetiko tropo na to anaferate.

ALEJAKH: Bebaiws.

REPPAS: Synexizw, loipon, legontas pws to gegonos oti exei dieqnh anagnwrish o Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras mas einai ena pleonekthma gia th xwra kai oxi mono gia thn kybernhsh ths opoias einai Proedros. Ayto, allwste, exoyn kat` epanalhch, apodeijei hgetes xwrwn ths E. E., alla kai polloi alloi.

Oson afora twra thn ejelijh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, prepei na pw -kai eimai kathgorhmatikos se ayto- oti ejartatai kaqoristika apo th stash ths Toyrkias, apo to sebasmo kai thn proshlwsh ths sth sxesh kalhs geitonias me thn Ellada, apo thn thrhsh twn dieqnwn synqhkwn kai twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Ara, loipon, h Toyrkia exei sto xeri ths to kleidi tetoiwn ejelijewn. An synexisei thn politikh me thn opoia shmera paroysiazetai, pisteyw oti den qa prepei na prosdoka lysh twn problhmatwn ta opoia h idia, kyriws, antimetwpizei. Giati, se megalo baqmo, h idia efeyriskei problhmata, h idia ta yfistatai kai adynatei na ta lysei. H Toyrkia, loipon h prepei na epilejei to dromo poy odhgei sthn E. E., sthn enarmonish me toys kanones toy Dikaioy, me bash toys opoioys leitoyrgoyn oi xwres ths E. E. h na epilejei na meinei sto periqwrio twn dieqnwn ejelijewn, akoloyqwntas ayth thn proklhtikh politikh, h opoia pisteyoyme oti einai adiejodh gia thn idia kai blaptei ta symferonta toy laoy ths.

ALEJAKH: Den apokleiete, dhladh, to endexomeno na yparjei enas dialogos se epipedo prwqypoyrgwn, argotera;

REPPAS: Eipa oti oi ejelijeis ejartwntai apo th stash ths Toyrkias. An h Toyrkia epiqymei epikoinwnia kai dialogo, prokeimenoy na kerdisei se baros ths Elladas, as mhn prosdoka kati tetoio. Den yparxoyn synomilhtes gia tetoioy eidoys dialogoys.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh exei diatypwqei kata koron, oti o k. Srenter exei hdh proteinei -pro ths paraithsews ths Epitrophs- ston k. Lafonten thn proedria ths Commission, gia thn epomenh pentaetia. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an epanelqei h Germania se mia tetoia protash, h Ellada qewrei oti mia tetoia epilogh qa proseqete sto gohtro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs;

REPPAS: Den mporw na kanw tetoies ypoqeseis. Den qa sxoliasoyme tis protaseis oi opoies "peftoyn" sto trapezi, oson afora ta onomata twn proedrwn kai melwn ths Commission, enocei ths neas 5etoys qhteias ths. Ayto to qema -dhladh thn epidiwjh eyryqmhs kai apotelesmatikhs leitoyrgias ths Commission- qa to diaxeiristoyme me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras mas kai ths E. E.

POYLIDOY: Anejarthtws twn synennohsewn poy lambanoyn xwra metajy twn kratwn-melwn h ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei oti h Commission mporei na parameinei, enocei kai twn eyrweklogwn; Kai ti mhnyma ekpempei mia tetoia epilogh;

REPPAS: Gia ola ayta ta qemata apanthsa se erwthseis synadelfwn sas, oi opoies htan arketes.

POYLIDOY: Kai eipate oti diaboyleyetai me tis alles kybernhseis. Sas rwtw h gnwmh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia to mhnyma poy ekpempei mia tetoia epilogh, poia einai;

REPPAS: Eipa oti, asfalws, prepei na lhfqei ypoch h ejelijh ayth ths kakhs diaxeirishs koinotikwn porwn. Ayto, allwste, odhghse se krish. Eipa, akomh, pws elpizoyme oi kradasmoi ayths ths krishs, na jeperastoyn syntoma, na mhn exoyn alles synepeies.

Apo thn allh, anaferqhka sthn empeiria, sth gnwsh twn qematwn poy exoyn ta melh ths Epitrophs. Ola ayta prepei na synektimhqoyn. Kai pisteyoyme oti oi epiloges poy qa kanoyn ta krath-melh, se synennohsh to ena me to allo, qa briskontai se sygklinoysa poreia. Ayto eipa.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epanalambanw thn erwthsh, mhpws den ginomai antilhpth...

REPPAS: Einai ena stoixeio to opoio qa synektimhqei. Antilhfqhka poly kala ti ennoeite. An einai arnhtiko to mhnyma poy ekpempetai, efoson apofasistei na parameinoyn sth qesh toys aytoi oi opoioi kathgoroyntai. Ayto den rwthsate;

POYLIDOY: Akribws.

REPPAS: Sas eipa, loipon, oti mazi me alla stoixeia einai kai ayto ena, to opoio qa synektimhqei. Den einai qetiko na kathgoreitai kapoios kai na synexizei na askei ta kaqhkonta toy, otan feretai oti me th symperifora toy den exei askhsei ta kaqhkonta ayta kata tropo orqo, nomimo kai dikaio. Einai ena stoixeio to opoio den mporei kaneis na parakamcei.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, qewreite pws mia energeia opws ayth toy RKK, na xarakthrisei empolemh zwnh olh thn Toyrkia kai na proeidopoihsei toys ypochfioys toyristes na mhn episkefqoyn th geitona xwra, tromokratei h oxi toys ypochfioys toyristes kai toys Toyrkoys polites kai epishs an bohqaei thn E. E. na piesei thn toyrkikh kybernhsh na anazhthsei politikh lysh sto koyrdiko problhma.

REPPAS: Se mia tetoia stash eimaste teleiws antiqetoi. To dhlwnoyme me safhneia kai kathgorhmatikothta. Kai me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, ekfrazoyme th lyph mas gia ta prosfata gegonota, ta opoia odhghsan se apwleia zwhs aqwwn politwn. Den pisteyoyme oti ayta ta qemata mporei na antimetwpistoyn me tetoioy eidoys energeies. Qa prepei o dieqnhs paragwn na energopoihqei, akomh perissotero, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei, epiteloys, mia politikh lysh sto problhma ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres yparxoyn kapoia problhmata ston Typo, ta gnwsta. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Eimaste se mia metabatikh periodo. O Typos antimetwpizei, ta teleytaia xronia, thn piesh twn "qermwn" Meswn Enhmerwshs, twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Toso to Syntagma oso kai oi nomoi toy kratoys problepoyn, mesw eidikwn diatajewn, thn enisxysh twn cyxraimwn Meswn Enhmerwshs, opws qewreitai o Typos, gia na epibiwsoyn se ayto ton sklhrotato antagwnismo.

An qelete thn proswpikh moy apoch, pisteyw oti prepei na pame se mia peraiterw fileleyqeropoihsh toy kaqestwtos sto xwro twn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Oi probleceis gia th leitoyrgia twn MME sthn Ellada, einai -qa elega- oi pio prowqhmenes, oi pio aysthres sto synolo ths E. E. Prepei na doyme to qema etsi wste kai h enhmerwsh genika ws agaqo na anabaqmistei kai o poliths anempodista na exei th dynatothta pollwn epilogwn, sto plaisio ths polyfwnias kai toy epikoinwniakoy ployralismoy. Prepei na ejasfalisoyme kalh kai antikeimenikh enhmerwsh, alla kai se sas kai toys synadelfoys sas polles dynatothtes gia apasxolhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, kyrie Ypoyrge, gnwrizate thn tropologia poy katateqhke sth Boylh; Qa hqela na mas peite, an symfwneite.

REPPAS: O k. Benizelos htan se synennohsh mazi moy gia thn ekkremothta ayth, epeidh akribws htan, ws armodios Ypoyrgos tote, eishghths toy nomoy gia ton opoio proteinetai twra h sxetikh tropopoihsh. Pisteyw oti prepei na pame se mia peraiterw fileleyqeropoihsh toy kaqestwtos sta MME. Allwste, kata to Syntagma o Typos einai eleyqeros.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den kataqesate eseis thn tropologia kai egine mesw allwn...;

REPPAS: As sebastoyme thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, den einai ypodeesterh. Isa-isa. Apla, egw ws Ypoyrgos Typoy den eixa kapoia nomoqetikh prwtoboylia ayth thn periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exei shmasia, as thn ypografate mazi me ton k. Benizelo kai oi dyo, an qelate.

REPPAS: Anelaban -opws eixan to dikaiwma- aythn thn prwtoboylia boyleytes. Qa hqela, loipon, na pw oti einai qemito kai qetiko na analambanoyn tetoies prwtoboylies oi boyleytes. Allwste, kat` epanalhch, exei ginei syzhthsh gia thn eleyqeria poy prepei na exoyn se sxesh me thn kybernhsh h ta kommata toys. Exete qesei to qema kai eseis edw. Otan milame gia thn eleyqeria toy Typoy, qa prepei na proseggizoyme qetika kaqe prwtoboylia poy symballei s` aythn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti exete na peite gia thn prokhryjh ths "17 Noembrh" poy dhmosieyetai shmera sthn "ELEYQEROTYPIA";

REPPAS: Prwton, den prokeitai na mpoyme se dialogo kai politikh antiparaqesh me mia tromokratikh organwsh.

Deyteron, mia tetoia anakoinwsh -me thn proypoqesh oti einai gnhsia- apodokimazetai, opws apodokimazontai oi egklhmatikes energeies poy "dikaiologhqhkan" me tetoioys prosxhmatikoys logoys.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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