Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-02-05

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Febroyarioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Syzhthsame ta qemata ths ellhnikhs gewrgias. Qa elega oti kaname mia poly kalh "aktinografia" ths katastashs sthn opoia brisketai h ellhnikh gewrgia shmera kai doqhkan oi kateyqynseis gia thn antimetwpish twn mesoproqesmwn kai makroproqesmwn qematwn.

Gia ola ayta qa milhsei o armodios Ypoyrgos se synenteyjh Typoy poy qa paraxwrhsei se peripoy mia wra.

Paradosiaka oi kybernhseis toy PASOK exoyn sthrijei ton agrotiko kosmo. Ayth einai mia politikh desmeysh, poy exei analabei to PASOK kai h kybernhsh toy apenanti se ena megalo tmhma toy ellhnikoy plhqysmoy, h opoia isxyei pantote.

Gia thn antimetwpish, me ton kalytero tropo, twn qematwn aytwn oi synadelfoi sas qa exoyn th dynatothta na enhmerwqoyn apo ton ypoyrgo Gewrgias, opws, epishs, na laboyn apanthseis sta erwthmata poy qa qesoyn.

Egw periorizomai mono se ayta kai eimai sth diaqesh sas.

PAPPA: Qelete na kanete kapoio sxolio gi ayta poy eipe, xqes, o k. Abramopoylos, sto Synedrio twn Diafhmistwn, oti, dhladh, o dikommatismos, dhmioyrgei ceytodilhmmata kai oti yparxei enas opisqodromikos kai anaxronistikos logos sta politika kommata;

REPPAS: Kaqe poliths leei eleyqera tis apoceis toy. Ayto einai tekmhrio ths politikhs dhmokratias, h opoia leitoyrgei kai brisketai se ychlo epipedo sthn patrida mas. Qa elega oti o k. Abramopoylos asxoleitai perissotero me to na kalliergei to "fainesqai" ths politikhs kai ligotero endiaferetai gia to "einai", gia to periexomeno ths politikhs, to opoio malista syxna streblwnei. Sthn Ellada h politikh dhmokratia brisketai se ychlo epipedo. Einai apotelesma twn agwnwn toy ellhnikoy laoy, ayto to epipedo poy exoyme katakthsei. Bebaiws, kai ta politika kommata -kai idiaiterws oi kybernhseis toy PASOK- me qesmoys antikeimenikopoihshs ths dhmosias zwhs kai diafaneias stis leitoyrgies toy dhmosioy bioy, opws epishs, me qesmoys apokentrwshs kai symmetoxhs, exoyn dhmioyrghsei ena neo periballon yper ths politikhs dhmokratias, wste na mporoyme abiasta na poyme oti exei, pleon, isxyres rizes kai einai aprosblhth. Bebaiws, panta yparxoyn problhmata. Ta problhmata ayta, omws, antimetwpizontai sto plaisio ths syntetagmenhs politeias, mesw twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn. Den antimetwpizontai me thn ej apokalycews alhqeia poy dhqen katexoyn kapoioi. Se mia koinwnia yparxoyn diafores, yparxoyn koinwnikes omades twn opoiwn ta symferonta einai diaforetika kai sygkroyontai, yparxoyn politikes protaseis, oi opoies antiparatiqentai. Ola ayta den einai dynaton na antimetwpistoyn dia ths ayqypobolhs twn politwn. Xreiazontai politikes protaseis, programmata, dialogos, synennohsh, synqesh kai koinh prospaqeia gia thn Ellada toy mellontos.

MOYRTZHS: "Fakirhs" einai o (k. Abramopoylos);

REPPAS: Se ayth th diadikasia qelei na ypobalei toy Ellhnes polites. Etsi na antimetwpisoyn ta qemata poy toys apasxoloyn.

GARGALAKOS: Exw mia aporia, k. Ekproswpe. Epaneilhmmena, exw akoysei ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei oti h ypoqesh Abramopoyloy, afora th N. D. Kai shmera, polla koryfaia stelexh toy PASOK -ki eseis ws Ekproswpos ths Kybernhshs- sxoliazete kai malista me epiqetikoys prosdiorismoys, ta legomena toy k. Abramopoyloy. Telika to PASOK fobatai thn ypoqesh Abramopoyloy;

REPPAS: Apanthse se ayto o Prwqypoyrgos molis proxqes. To PASOK den noiwqei oti yparxei antipalos. To PASOK exei antipalo ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn thn ellhnikh koinwnia kai ton ellhniko lao, ayta kaleitai na antimetwpisei kai na lysei. To qema twn prwtoboyliwn toy k. Abramopoyloy einai problhma, asfalws, ths synthrhtikhs paratajhs. Omws, h politikh dhmokratia einai qema poy oloys mas endiaferei kai mas apasxolei. Sto plaisio ayto ekana ki egw to sxetiko sxolio.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, o k. Ebert milhse gia "sthmenh" synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai malista kathgorhse ton Paylo Tsima ws arxitektona aytoy toy sthsimatos. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: O k. Ebert, epeidh einai melos Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy Idrymatos Typoy, einai dhladh Proistamenos leitoyrgwn twn MME, pisteyei oti den yparxei allo montelo sth sxesh twn politikwn kai twn dhmosiografwn. Gi` ayto proebh s` aytes tis aparadektes kathgories. Einai logiko na yperaspizetai thn paratajh toy kai ton arxhgo toy. Apla, to kanei me tropo, o opoios einai antideontologikos kai aprephs. Kai se teleytaia analysh, mporw na pw oti ekfrazei thn apogohteysh toy kai thn enoxlhsh toy, giati tetoies emfaniseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy plhttoyn th N. D. kai ths dhmioyrgoyn megalh politikh zhmia. Apo ekei kai pera, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti blepw kai mia adiorath xara ston k. Ebert, otan sto plaisio aytwn twn enqetwn monologwn toy sta deltia eidhsewn, ejasfalizei thn paroysia toy sthn politikh zwh ths xwras. Ekeinos milaei gia na einai parwn. H kybernhsh milaei gia to ergo ths, milaei me to ergo ths kai endiaferetai na diasfalisei to paron kai to mellon ths ellhnikhs koinwnias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prohgoymenws eipate oti to PASOK den noiwqei oti yparxei antipalos. Ti ennooysate;

REPPAS: Apanthse, proxqes, o Prwqypoyrgos. Eipe oti oydeis antipalos einai epikindynos gia to PASOK. To PASOK exei, noiwqei antipalo toy mono ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn ton ellhniko lao. Einai mia qesh thn opoia exw diatypwsei, edw kai poly kairo. Qa elega, apo tis prwtes hmeres poy breqhka s` ayton edw to xwro.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi 11 monades diafora ths N. D. apo to PASOK, den einai antipalos;

REPPAS: Egw qa elega, otan milate gia diafora, na meinete sth diafora, yper toy PASOK, twn boyleytwn, oi opoioi logw ths koinoboyleytikhs ayths pleiochfias, apartizoyn kai th bash poy sthrizei th kybernhsh toy PASOK, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei kai na oloklhrwsei to ergo poy ths aneqese o ellhnikos laos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta gkalop lene gia th diafora ths N. D...

REPPAS: O ellhnikos laos exei apofanqei. Otan erqei h wra na apofanqei kai pali, tote qa anamenete thn krish toy, h opoia pisteyw oti jana qa toys apogohteysei.

ARGYROS: Sthn eishghsh toy o Prwqypoyrgos, ektos apo ta agrotika, ekane kamia allh anafora;

REPPAS: Kamia allh anafora se opoiodhpote allo qema.

KIAOS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti oi agrotes qa apotelesoyn ena kainoyrgio metwpo meta thn Paideia h oxi; Mhpws diablepei kamia analogh katastash kai sto xwro ths Ygeias; Dhladh agrotes, o xwros ths Ygeias me giatroys, nosokomeia klp kai pws skeptetai na antimetwpisei ayth thn katastash;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh anagnwrizei oti sto xwro ths ellhnikhs gewrgias yparxoyn diarqrwtika problhmata poy prepei na lyqoyn. Prepei na dexqeite oti exoyn ginei shmantika bhmata, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn problhmata twn agrotwn me ikanopoihtika apotelesmata. Gia ola ayta, toso apologistika oso kai ejaggeltika, qa milhsei se ligh wra o armodios ypoyrgos Gewrgias. Oson afora to xwro ths Ygeias, asfalws yparxei ayth h anataraxh. Opws eipe kai o armodios yfypoyrgos Ygeias shmera sth Boylh, ews tis 10 Febroyarioy qa exoyn katablhqei ta posa poy dikaioyntai na laboyn oi giatroi sta nosokomeia kai idiaiterws sto Laiko Nosokomeio, opoy exoyn dhmioyrghqei kapoia problhmata logw ayths ths ekkremothtas. Ews tis 15 Febroyarioy qa exei oristikopoihqei to ycos twn pistwsewn gia to synolo twn efhmeriwn poy prepei na ginoyn mesa sto 1999 apo toys giatroys toy ESY. Den pisteyoyme oti logw ths politikhs poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh prokaleitai problhma, wste na odhgei se kinhtopoihsh diafores koinwnikes omades, toys agrotes h toys iatroys, giati qewroyme pws h prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh exei beltiwsei, se megalo baqmotis qeseis twn melwn aytwn twn koinwnikwn omadwn, oi opoies gnwrizoyn oti s' ayth thn kybernhsh exoyn brei enan ajiopisto synomilhth, poy endiaferetai gia ta problhmata toys kai kanei to kalytero dynato, sto plaisio aytwn twn newn synqhkwn poy exoyn dhmioyrghqei, gia thn epilysh aytwn twn problhmatwn. Ara, loipon, den xreiazetai sygkroysh kai antiparaqesh. Xreiazetai synennohsh gia na epilysoyme me koinh prospaqeia ta problhmata.

KIAOS: Exete kapoia endeijh gia to pws ypodexontai oi agrotes ta metra ths kybernhshs, opws ta blepoyme kai shmera, stis efhmerides kai me th qesh thn opoia pairnoyn kai pws blepete na antimetwpizei h kybernhsh thn katastash ayth;

REPPAS: Polla dhmosieymata, prepei na aposafhnisw, den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. Den prepei na kalliergoyntai prosdokies oi opoies malista apotimwntai se polla disekatommyria draxmes. H prospaqeia poy kanei h xwra pros thn ONE apaitei mia diaxeirish twn dhmosiwn porwn me tetoio tropo, wste na eynooyntai isomerws oles oi koinwnikes omades, xwris na tiqetai se diakindyneysh o megalos eqnikos stoxos poy exoyme qesei. Eidika gia toys agrotes qa milhsei o ypoyrgos Gewrgias kai qa anaferqei me leptomereies se epimeroys qemata. Kanw ayth thn aposafhnish epeidh prepei na thn kanw twra gia na mhn paramenei ayth h paranohsh h h parejhghsh poy exei dhmioyrghqei.

KONTOPOYLOS: Nomimopoiei h kybernhsh tis apaithseis dioikhsewn nosokomeiwn apo giatroys na epistrecoyn xrhmata ta opoia exoyn egkriqei apo toys Paredroys kai to Elegktiko Synedrio;

REPPAS: Oi giatroi qa prepei na ameibontai me bash ta osa problepoyn oi sxetikes diatajeis. Efoson ta xrhmata poy exoyn labei antapokrinontai se pragmatikh ergasia poy exoyn kanei den yparxei kanena problhma. Alla epeidh fainetai oti se kapoies periptwseis exoyn dhmioyrghqei problhmata, kalo einai na elegxqoyn aytes oi periptwseis.

KONTOPOYLOS: Poios qa elegjei; H kybernhsh qa elegjei to Elegktiko Synedrio;

REPPAS: Ta D. S. twn nosokomeiwn exoyn kai ena tetoio rolo. Kai, bebaiws, allos o rolos toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy kai allos o rolos twn dioikhsewn twn nosokomeiwn. Exoyn ena rolo na elegxoyn an pragmatika oi efhmeries exoyn ginei kai einai pragmatikes. An pragmatika to wrario sto opoio problepetai na ergazontai oi giatroi exei thrhqei apo toys giatroys. Gia to qema ayto exei apostalei egkyklios apo ton ypoyrgo Ygeias k. Papadhma.

Sas eyxaristw.

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