Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-11-16

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 16 Noembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

* Ayrio, stis 13.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs k. Papadopoylo, en ocei toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ths Paraskeyhs. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio qa asxolhqei me to qema ths katartishs twn newn organismwn twn ypoyrgeiwn.

* Thn Tetarth qa synanthqei me ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs k. Petsalniko.

* Thn Pempth qa dexqei th Dioikhsh ths GSEE kai to meshmeri ths idias hmeras qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Politismoy k. Benizelo.

Ayto einai se poly genikes grammes to programma twn synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

* Qelw na kanw ena sxolio: Para thn katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke shmera sto xwro toy Polytexneioy, oi ekdhlwseis toy opoioy pisteyw oti qa oloklhrwqoyn omala, kai para th diafainomenh prospaqeia gia th dhmioyrgia epeisodiwn, sto plaisio toy eortasmoy ths mnhmhs toy Polytexneioy, o Prwqypoyrgos proshlqe gia na apotisei foro timhs stoys nekroys, sto Polytexneio. To Polytexneio anhkei ston ellhniko lao kai thn istoria. Einai symbolo eleyqerias kai dhmokratias. Den mporei na to kaphleyontai oi mikres omades, poy me antidhmokratikes prajeis bias diastrefoyn kai alloiwnoyn to nohma kai thn ajia toy mhnymatos toy Polytexneioy. O Prwqypoyrgos ekane to xreos toy, para thn atmosfaira poy htan gnwsto oti kapoioi qa epixeiroysan na dhmioyrghsoyn. Htan kai fetos parwn, synexizontas thn paradosh, poy qelei toys epikefalhs twn kybernhsewn, toys Prwqypoyrgoys ths xwras, me thn paroysia toys, na apotioyn foro timhs. Pisteyoyme oti ta epeisodia twn mikrwn aytwn omadwn, poy den exoyn opoiadhpote sxesh me th diaqesh ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias toy ellhnikoy laoy, den qa epanalhfqoyn. O eortasmos qa ejelixqei kai qa oloklhrwqei omala, wste na doqei h dynatothta se oloys toys polites poy to epiqymoyn na symmetasxoyn stis ekdhlwseis. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Me poio tropo h Kybernhsh skeftetai, meta ta shmerina epeisodia, aytes tis mikroejarseis twn opoiwn omadwn, na tis antimetwpisei, wste na teqei terma sth sxesh aytwn twn anqrwpwn me th mnhmh toy Polytexneioy;

REPPAS: Dystyxws, einai monimws syndedemeno me tis ekdhlwseis toy Polytexneioy, to fainomeno ayto twn prajewn bias apo mikres omades anarxikwn. H Kybernhsh exei labei ola ta anagkaia metra. Oi dynameis ths EL. AS. pisteyoyme oti einai etoimes na antimetwpisoyn kaqe endexomeno. As elpisoyme na mh xreiastei na xrhsimopoihqei ayth h dynamh, epeidh akribws -kai ayto elpizoyme- den qa ekdhlwqoyn tetoia fainomena, ta opoia qa exoyn, ek twn pragmatwn, synepeies. Pisteyw oti to Polytexneio qa prepei na to timoyme me tropo semno, ypeyqyno, me enan tetoio tropo poy den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me thn prowqhsh twn idewn, twn apocewn, alla poly perissotero twn prajewn enos mikrokosmoy poy afora ligoys, elaxistoys polites ayths ths xwras. Exoyn ta dikaiwmata toys, bebaiws, alla ta dika toys dikaiwmata den einai ypertera twn dikaiwmatwn twn allwn politwn, oi opoioi epiqymoyn, oi ekdhlwseis gia ton eortasmo toy Polytexneioy na ginontai me tropo dhmokratiko, nomimo, wste ta plhqh toy kosmoy poy to epiqymoyn na mporoyn na pairnoyn meros s` aytes tis ekdhlwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete, tis teleytaies hmeres, thn kinhtikothta toy k. Mperns kai thn episkech toy sthn EYP;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei pali gi` ayto to qema. O k. Mperns, ws presbhs twn HPA, prowqei tis dimereis sxeseis. Episkeptetai Ypoyrgoys kai yphresies, sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn, gia na syzhthsei qemata koinoy endiaferontos. Den exw na kanw allo sxolio ep` aytoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixe enhmerwsei thn Kybernhsh oti qa episkefqei thn EYP;

REPPAS: Htan programmatismenh ayth h episkech kai asfalws, htan enhmerh h Kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ejefrase kapoies anhsyxies; Perimenei kapoio ktyphma... ;

REPPAS: Exoyn grafei para polla. Oydeis, peran twn andrwn poy synanthqhkan, den htan parwn, wste na mporei na metaferei th syzhthsh poy egine ekei. Oyte egw, bebaiws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh exei tetoia plhroforia peri ktyphmatos ths "17 Noembrh"; Giati kai ayto grafhke.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den exei plhrofories, oi opoies einai stoixeioqethmenes, wste na prepei na tis labei ypoch ths gia na antimetwpisei ena endexomeno. Alla, h Kybernhsh, gnwrizete poly kala, sto qema ayto exei idiaiterh eyaisqhsia, opws ola ta kommata, opws oloi oi polites ayths ths xwras kai eimaste, ana pasa stigmh, etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme kaqe piqano endexomeno. Den einai, omws, kati to opoio exei prokycei stoixeioqethmena, me stoixeia ta opoia na mas deixnoyn kapoia ejarsh, ayth thn wra. Panta, omws, eimaste -epanalambanw- se etoimothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kata thn episkech toy se sas, ejefrase kapoia dysareskeia ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs gia thn Astynomia kai thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh;

REPPAS: Den ejefrase opoiadhpote dysareskeia, giati den syzhthqhkan kan tetoia qemata. Syzhthsame qemata, ta opoia aforoyn to antikeimeno me to opoio ki egw asxoloymai, ws Ypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto sas rwtaw, sas metefere to aithma gia kapoia pneymatika dikaiwmata poy diekdikoyn;

REPPAS: Syzhthqhke to qema poy afora th diasfalish twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn twn jenwn, twn Amerikanwn, sygkekrimena, paragwgwn, gia ta erga toys ta opoia paizontai sthn Ellada. Ejefrase thn ikanopoihsh toy gia thn proodo poy exei epitelestei. Prepei na sas pw oti mesa se enamisi xrono exoyme dianysei mia poly shmantikh apostash, wste na dwsoyme sto problepto mellon oristikh lysh s` ayto to problhma. To problhma ayto apasxolei tis dimereis sxeseis apo tis arxes ths dekaetias toy '90. Gia prwth fora h Kybernhsh mas antimetwpizei systhmatika ayto to problhma. Yparxei apolyth ikanopoihsh apo thn Kybernhsh twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn gia thn proodo poy exoyme kanei. Eimaste apolyta symfwnoi sthn poreia poy akoloyqoyme kai pisteyw oti syntoma to qema ayto qa pacei na yparxei sthn atzenta twn dimerwn synomiliwn.

BITALHS: Plhn twn parontwn oydeis gnwrizei ti syzhthqhke sth synanthsh toy k. Mperns sthn Katexakh. To erwthma moy einai to ejhs: H Kybernhsh, o Prwqypoyrgos ston opoio ypagetai h EYP, den enhmerwqhke stoixeiwdws gia to periexomeno ayths ths synomilias;

REPPAS: Ayto einai to elaxisto poy prepei na ginei kai exei ginei. Alla den miloysa gi` ayto, otan eipa oti oydeis htan parwn, wste na mporei na metaferei th syzhthsh. Ennooysa oti egw den hmoyn parwn, opws den htan kai kapoios allos o opoios qa mporoyse me pistothta na metaferei th syzhthsh. Asfalws, h EYP anhkei stis yphresies ekeines poy elegxontai kai epopteyontai apo thn Kybernhsh. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti to elaxisto poy qa perimene kapoios -ki eseis- einai na exei enhmerwsei apolytws o epikefalhs ths EYP, ton epopteyonta Ypoyrgo gia to periexomeno ayths ths syzhthshs.

ALEJAKH: Alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories poy dhmosieyontai shmera ston Typo oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh arnhqhke na periqalcei, na bohqhsei ton Otsalan sto problhma to opoio antimetwpize kai ton steilame emeis sthn Italia h kapoy alloy; Zhthse na erqei edw kai emeis arnhqhkame;

REPPAS: Den exei teqei tetoio qema sthn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete poly kala poia einai h politikh ths xwras mas sto qema ayto. H Ellada exei prwtostathsei sthn anadeijh toy politikoy problhmatos to opoio yparxei se ekkremothta edw kai arketo kairo sthn Toyrkia. Milw gia to Koyrdiko zhthma. Emeis se diafora fora exoyme prwtostathsei sto na anadeijoyme to problhma poy dhmioyrgeitai apo th biaih stash twn arxwn ths Toyrkias apenanti stoys Koyrdoys, opws epishs, exoyme epishmanei ta problhmata poy dhmioyrgoyntai apo tis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis poy anaptyssei h Toyrkia sto Boreio Irak. Einai safes oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei, me kaqe tropo, katasthsei, sto metro twn dynatothtwn ths, koinwno to dieqnh paragonta gia to megalo politiko qema poy yparxei kai kat` epanalhch exoyme pei oti prepei me politika mesa na ejeyreqei lysh, gia na pacei na yfistatai ayto to problhma.

ALEJAKH: Kamia epafh den egine apo ton Otsalan me kapoia melh ths Kybernhshs; Oyte thlefwno, oyte epafh, oyte tipota;

REPPAS: Sas edwsa mia apanthsh kai paramenw s` ayth thn apanthsh. Sas eipa oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh den eixe epafh me ekproswpo toy k. Otsalan, prokeimenoy na syzhthqei tetoio qema.

MIXAHL: Twra, pleon, o Otsalan einai sta xeria ths Italikhs Astynomias. Ginetai megalh syzhthsh sthn Eyrwph kai apo ta jena praktoreia sxetika me to an prepei h oxi na ekdoqei. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei apoch ep` aytoy; Prepei na ekdoqei sthn Toyrkia;

REPPAS: H politikh qesh mas ekfrasthke apo tis dhlwseis tis opoies kaname. Apo ekei kai pera, h Italia exei to diko ths nomiko plaisio kai toys ypeyqynoys politikoys andres poy xeirizontai to qema kai ekeinoi qa apofasisoyn.

MIXAHL: Yparxei, omws, kati sto opoio endexomenws exei kai mia emmesh, an qelete, anameijh kai h Ellada. Sta xeria ths ellhnikhs astynomias kai twn ellhnikwn dikastikwn arxwn yparxei to dieqnes entalma poy eixe ekdoqei apo to 1990, apo th Germania. Me bash, loipon, ayto to endexomeno poia einai h qesh ths Elladas, oson afora thn tyxh toy Otsalan;

REPPAS: Gi` ayto to qema exoyme kanei sxoliasmoys, exoyme dwsei apanthseis. Giati qa prepei na parameinoyme perissotero se mia syzhthsh poy afora kati poy einai emmeso kai endexomeno kai na mhn arkestoyme sto na syzhtoyme ayto poy einai bebaio kai den einai endexomeno. As meinoyme s` ayto poy einai ameso kai den einai emmeso. Sas eipa oti einai ena qema to opoio, ayth thn wra, antimetwpizoyn oi arxes ths Italias. Exei nomiko plaisio h Italia, to opoio einai sygxrono kai nomizw oti h ajiopoihsh toy plaisioy aytoy mporei na dwsei lysh sto problhma poy exei klhqei na xeiristei h Italikh Kybernhsh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Exei perielqei se gnwsh ths Kybernhshs proqesh toy k. Mperns na episkefqei to Polytexneio;

REPPAS: Den exoyme ypoch mas kati tetoio, doqentos oti h Kybernhsh den einai ayth h opoia ekdidei adeies gia thn episkech politwn sto Polytexneio.

KARASABBA: Me dedomenh thn arxikh sas apanthsh sto prwto erwthma poy teqhke gia ton Otsalan, na qewrhsw oti emmenei h Ellada sth qesh ths oti to RKK den einai tromokratikh organwsh kai o Otsalan den einai tromokraths;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei kat` epanalhch gi` ayta ta qemata. H qesh mas paramenei h idia, den exei allajei oyte kata keraia. Gnwrizete poios einai o tropos me ton opoio h Ellada kai h Kybernhsh ths xwras mas exoyn xeiristei to qema ayto.

KARASABBA: Skeftetai h Kybernhsh na kalesei ton Otsalan gia na...

REPPAS: Den exei apasxolhsei thn Kybernhsh tetoio qema.

KARASABBA: Den einai eyprosdektos;

REPPAS: Den mas exei apasxolhsei tetoio qema. Den exei teqei tetoio qema gia thn Kybernhsh.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Sthn efhmerida "NEA" to Sabbato dhmosieythke oti o k. Mpantoybas metefere mhnyma toy k. Otsalan pros thn Kybernhsh. Yparxei tipota tetoio;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw tipota sxetiko. O k. Pagkalos leipei ektos Elladas. O k. Papandreoy leipei, epishs, ektos Elladas. Pisteyw oti den qa exei bash ayto to opoio lete, oti metaferqhke kapoio mhnyma sthn Kybernhsh. Toylaxiston h Kybernhsh -ej oswn gnwrizw mexri ayth thn wra- den exei labei kapoio tetoio mhnyma. Kai gnwrizete oti h Kybernhsh exei epideijei megalh eyaisqhsia sto na lambanei mhnymata, otan yparxoyn mhnymata.

SOYRMELH: Kapoy diabasa shmera, den qymamai poy, oti egine ena diabhma pros thn Presbeia ths Elladas sth Mosxa kai ekeinh ekane tis diapragmateyseis...

REPPAS: Einai kati poy akoyw prwth fora apo esas.

SOYRMELH: Kapoy grafthke ayto.

REPPAS: Den apokleietai na exei graftei, alla ayto den anairei to oti to akoyw ki egw prwth fora apo esas.

KWSTANTHS: Se allo qema. Pws sxoliazete, shmera, dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "ELEYQEROS" poy milaei gia th lehlasia toy dhmosioy xrhmatos, se diaforoys xwroys, opws to fysiko aerio kai h gewrgia, gia thn opoia ekane dhlwseis kai o k. Tzoymakas, kai thn anagkh ameshs parembashs eisaggelea;

REPPAS: Jerete, kata kairoys grafontai diafora gia qemata ta opoia exoyn kyriws oikonomiko endiaferon. Panta yparxoyn endiaferomenoi, oi opoioi pisteyoyn oti qigontai ta symferonta toys kai me diaforoys tropoys prospaqoyn na diekdikhsoyn yper toys thn ejelijh mias ypoqeshs poy exei oikonomiko endiaferon. Ola ayta ta qemata, opws gnwrizete, apofasizontai mesw twn egkyrwn organwn ths politeias mas. Stis sygkekrimenes periptwseis h toylaxiston stis perissoteres apo aytes stis opoies anaferqhkate h Boylh exei chfisei sxetikoys nomoys. H xwra mas exei proxwrhsei sth synach twn aparaithtwn symbasewn. An kapoios qewrei pws yparxoyn paranomes prajeis, qa prepei na apeyqynqei sth Dikaiosynh. Opoios den to kanei kai arkeitai sto na epanalambanei ta idia kai ta idia stereotypa, toys isxyrismoys, oi opoioi telikws den exoyn thn analogh tekmhriwsh, pisteyw oti blaptei ta symferonta ths xwras, xwris na epitygxanei telika na prowqei kai ta dika toy symferonta.

PITTARAS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th synenteyjh toy Ypoyrgoy Paideias sthn efhmerida "EJOYSIA" kai kyriws sto shmeio sto opoio proanaggellei poines stoys maqhtes poy qa proboyn se katalhceis, alla kai diwjeis se ekpaideytikoys poy qa mplokaroyn th metarryqmish;.

REPPAS: H lejh "poines" einai mesa se eisagwgika. O Ypoyrgos epanalambanei ta aytonohta kai gnwsta. An logw twn katalhcewn h logw ths apoxhs twn maqhtwn apo ta maqhmata exoyn xaqei wres didaskalias, aytes qa prepei na anaplhrwqoyn. Kai qa anaplhrwqoyn aytes oi wres didaskalias me to na epilejei kapoio sxoleio, anamesa sto na kanei thn kaqierwmenh ekdromh h na organwsei mia allh ekdhlwsh kai sto na kanei th didaskalia toy maqhmatos to opoio xaqhke, logw mias apergiakhs kinhtopoihshs twn maqhtwn. Kai o Ypoyrgos leei oti qa prepei to sxoleio na epilejei, na kanei th didaskalia toy maqhmatos, h opoia den katesth dynato na ginei logw mias kinhtopoihshs, logw mias katalhchs toy sxoleioy. Na mhn epilejei thn odo ths ekdromhs h ths organwshs mias allhs ekdhlwshs, poy shmainei oti oi maqhtes den qa didaxqoyn thn aparaithth ylh. Ayto onomazetai "poinh". Omws, ayto den einai poinh. Isa-isa, ayto einai to elaxisto poy prepei na kanei h ekpaideytikh koinothta sth deyterobaqmia ekpaideysh, prokeimenoy oi maqhtes na einai eparkws katartismenoi, na exoyn ta analoga efodia stis ejetaseis stis opoies dokimazontai.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h Kybernhsh apo thn apologhtikh anakoinwsh poy ejedwse h Arxiepiskoph, se sxesh me ta lexqenta toy Arxiepiskopoy gia to qema ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs;

REPPAS: Oyte ikanopoihmenh einai, oyte dysaresthmenh. O Makariotatos leei tis apoceis toy. H Kybernhsh akoloyqei thn politikh ths.

ALEJAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h "AQHNAIKH" exei ena dhmosieyma, shmera, gia th lesxh Mpilntempergk kai anaferetai sth teleytaia ths synedriash legontas oti ekei syzhthqhkan kapoia pragmata poy aforoyn thn Kypro kai to endexomeno mias sygkroyshs. Sthn teleytaia synedriash ths Mpilntempergk eixan labei meros kai o anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Papandreoy kai alla proswpa apo thn politikh skhnh ths xwras. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an o k. Papandreoy exei enhmerwsei thn Kybernhsh gia osa syzhthqhkan sth synedriash ayth.

REPPAS: H gnwsth lesxh sthn opoia anafereste, h lesxh Mpilntempergk leitoyrgei edw kai arketa xronia. Symmetexoyn s` ayth diaforoi paragontes ths dieqnoys zwhs, politikoi kai alloi. Syzhtoyntai qemata poy exoyn dieqnes endiaferon. Kat` epanalhch, ej oswn gnwrizoyme apo dhmosieymata, syzhtoyntai qemata poy amesa h emmesa aforoyn thn Ellada kai thn Kypro. Den einai kati neo ayto. O k. Papandreoy den einai kapoios o opoios qa prepei na enhmerwsei thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh gia tis syzhthseis poy eginan -an eginan- sto plaisio ths leitoyrgias ayths ths lesxhs, giati o k. Papandreoy einai Kybernhsh. Einai Ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn. Qa prepei, loipon, na enhmerwsei kai ton... eayton toy! Kai ayto to opoio exei telika shmasia, den einai ti syzhteitai s` aytes tis synedriaseis, tis sygkentrwseis twn diaforwn omilwn, twn lesxwn. Shmasia exei poia einai h politikh poy akoloyqeitai. H politikh poy akoloyqei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh sto sygkekrimeno tomea einai poly sygkekrimenh kai gnwsth se sas. Ayto to opoio qa prepei na epidiwjoyme, einai na yparxoyn apotelesmata pio xeiropiasta kai na lyqei to Kypriako qema. Syzhthseis exoyn ginei polles. Qa ginoyn polles akomh, ayto einai bebaio. Shmasia exei h politikh kai ta metra poy efarmozontai.

KARASABBA: Sto Koyrdiko: Hqela na rwthsw, an h Ellada qa analabei kapoia prwtoboylia politikhs epilyshs kai ta loipa, isws mazi me thn Italia kai mia deyterh erwthsh gia thn Kypro: An yparxei ellhnikh syndromh, bohqeia, den jerw pws legetai, stis ereynes poy ginontai ayth th stigmh gia toys Israhlinoys kataskopoys, apo ellhnikh pleyra, an yparxei tetoia syndromh.

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero qema, to antimetwpizei h kypriakh Kybernhsh me tis armodies yphresies ths. Oson afora to prwto qema, h ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei jekaqarh kai safh qesh, thn opoia exei diatypwsei egkyra sto plaisio dieqnwn organismwn stoys opoioys symmetexoyme. Den prokeitai na kanoyme kati diaforetiko, giati pisteyoyme oti exoyme eparkws tonisei th shmasia poy exei ayto to qema gia th dhmioyrgia synqhkwn staqerothtas kai asfaleias sthn eyryterh perioxh.

KIAOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw sxetika me th qesh ths Kybernhsews, an allaje se sxesh me thn timariqmopoihsh ths forologikhs klimakas, dioti opws prokyptei kai apo to dhmosieyma ths "ELEYQEROTYPIAS", oi foroi -para to oti den mpainoyn neoi, opws leei h Kybernhsh- ayjanontai kaqe xrono se arketa megalo pososto, kyriws bebaiws gia toys misqwtoys. Mhpws me thn timariqmopoihsh ths forologikhs klimakas exoyme kati newtero;

REPPAS: Eipame oti entos toy 1999 qa isxysei h forologikh politikh poy isxyei kai twra. Den prokeitai, dhladh, h Kybernhsh na probei sthn katartish neoy forologikoy nomosxedioy. Ara, den problepontai allages, oson afora th forologhsh twn politwn, twn misqwtwn, en prokeimenw. Den einai, loipon, stis epiloges ths Kybernhshs na proxwrhsei ek neoy, fetos, se timariqmopoihsh ths forologikhs klimakas, afoy den qa exoyme ena neo forologiko nomosxedio.

Apo thn allh, qa prepei na epishmanw, oti h meiwsh sto FPA, h meiwsh se diafora proionta kai yphresies eynoei ton katanalwth, eynoei ton polith, prostateyei to oikogeneiako eisodhma. Giati qa prepei, pera ap` ayto to opoio plhrwnei amesa sthn Eforia o kaqe forologoymenos, na staqmizetai kai ayto to opoio apolambanei h kerdizei mesa apo aytes tis elafrynseis h tis meiwseis twn timwn se proionta kai yphresies poy mas aforoyn oloys.

Den problepetai -epanalambanw- opoiadhpote allagh, oson afora to kaqestws to opoio gnwrizete, to opoio isxyei apo perysi.

KIAOS: M` ayto poy lete, paei na pei oti antistaqmizetai h ayjhsh twn forwn apo th meiwsh sto FPA klp;

REPPAS: Den eipa akribws ayto. Eipa oti qa prepei na synektimhqei h qa prepei na ejetazete kai aytes tis meiwseis timwn se proionta kai yphresies poy eynooyn ton katanalwth, aforoyn oloys toys polites. Einai ena shmantiko kondyli 170 dis. draxmwn, to opoio to Ellhniko Dhmosio "stereitai", epeidh -peran ths prospaqeias gia thn katapolemhsh toy plhqwrismoy- qewroyme oti einai ena metro koinwnikhs politikhs, afoy afora yphresies kai proionta poy katanalwnoyn oi polites.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto idio qema: Forologiko nomosxedio den qa exoyme. Nea tekmhria, qa exoyme;

REPPAS: Afoy den qa exoyme forologiko nomosxedio, o, tidhpote afora th forologhsh eisodhmatos, problepetai apo to forologiko nomosxedio. Ara, mhn perimenete opoiesdhpote nees ryqmiseis sto sygkekrimeno qema.

Teleiwnontas, prepei na sas pw oti twra pame na ypodexqoyme toys aqlhtes ths Arshs Barwn, oi opoioi epistrefoyn meta to qriambo toys sto Pagkosmio Prwtaqlhma sth Filandia. Sygxairoyme, gia mia akomh fora, toys aqlhtes ths Arshs Barwn. Prepei na metaferoyme th xara oloy toy ellhnikoy laoy, giati opws blepete, h Arsh Barwn apotelei telika thn pio ayqentikh ekproswphsh toy ellhnikoy Aqlhtismoy kai malista se koryfaio epipedo, afoy opws gnwrizete katekthse thn prwth qesh pagkosmiws.

MIXAHL: Apo th stigmh poy elegxete, exete thn armodiothta epi ths ERT kai thn epopteia ths, mporeite na mas peite gia paradeigma, giati -opws eipe kai o idios o aqlhths- den metadoqhke apeyqeias kai h prospaqeia toy Lewnida Sampanh. Qa zhthsete eyqynes gia to pws egine o programmatismos;

REPPAS: To apogeyma prokeitai na tajidecw stis Bryjelles, opoy ayrio, sto plaisio toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn, syzhtoyme qemata poy aforoyn toys dhmosioys radiothleoptikoys foreis. Gnwrizete oti toys exei epifylaxqei mia idiaiterh qesh sto plaisio toy prwtokolloy ths Synqhkhs toy Amsterntam, giati h apostolh twn dhmosiwn radiothleoptikwn forewn einai na proballoyn gegonota poy exoyn ena meizon endiaferon, xwris na prosblepoyn opwsdhpote kai anagkastika sthn proselkysh megalwn diafhmistikwn paketwn gia na ayjhsoyn ta esoda toys. Qa prepei, loipon, h Ellhnikh Radiofwnia-Thleorash na tima tis epiloges poy kanei, proballontas tetoia gegonota, opws to sygkekrimeno shmantiko aqlhtiko gegonos toy Pagkosmioy Prwtaqlhmatos ths Arshs Barwn. An yparxoyn kapoies ameleies h paraleiceis, qa prepei h dioikhsh ths epixeirhshs na asxolhqei kai na apodwsei eyqynes, an yparxoyn, s` aytoys poy tis exoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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