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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Na moy epitrecete na kanw ena eisagwgiko sxolio: H katastash poy dhmioyrgeitai me tis prosfates pyrkagies apaitei cyxraimh kai apotelesmatikh antimetwpish. Ayth thn wra, oi andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos kai alles dynameis dinoyn, me zhlo kai aytaparnhsh, th maxh gia na damasoyn ayto to fainomeno. Oyte to qema, oyte o xronos prosferontai gia thn ektojeysh eykolwn kathgoriwn. Kai h antipoliteytikh diaqesh exei ta oria ths. Den prepei na taytizetai me thn aneyqynothta kai thn katadhmagwghsh ths koinhs gnwmhs.

H entash twn anemwn apotelei arnhtiko paragonta sthn prospaqeia twn dynamewn toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos kai twn allwn forewn na antimetwpisoyn tis pyrkagies. Lypoymaste gia thn apwleia twn andrwn, poy epixeirwntas na prosferoyn o, ti perissotero kai kalytero sthn koinh ayth prospaqeia gia thn antimetwpish kai katasbesh ths fwtias prosferan kai th zwh toys. H Politeia qa staqei arwgos. O armodios Ypoyrgos qa anakoinwsei sygkekrimena metra symparastashs mas stis oikogeneies twn qymatwn. Prepei na poyme oti h prospaqeia twn andrwn toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos ginetai me ychlo fronhma, katw apo idiaitera dysmeneis synqhkes. Oi andres poy dinoyn ayth thn poly dyskolh maxh exoyn anagkh thn hqikh kai cyxologikh yposthrijh olwn mas. Parakalw, ayto na to prosmetrhsete ki eseis, alla kai oi politikes dynameis prepei na to laboyn sobara ypoch sta sxolia ta opoia diatypwnoyn. Dienergeitai ereyna gia tis synqhkes apwleias zwhs twn tessarwn andrwn. H Kybernhsh kanei ta panta, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei ayth h ektakth katastash. Pisteyoyme oti qa prepei -ayth einai h ypeyqynh politikh stash- na anamenoyme ta porismata ths ereynas, wste na ejagoyme to teliko symperasma mas. Mexri tote, ki enw einai se ejelijh ayth h prospaqeia, kalo einai na apofeygontai kathgories kai kataggelies, oi opoies mporei na epidiwkoyn th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn, alla symballoyn arnhtika sthn prospaqeia na antimetwpisoyme tis pyrkagies. Ayto, nomizw apotelei kai to metro eyqynhs olwn mas. H stash, dhladh, poy qa epideijoyme se mia poly dyskolh stigmh, opoy kaloymaste na prostateysoyme thn eqnikh perioysia, ta dash mas kai thn idiokthsia twn politwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, eniwse thn anagkh o Prwqypoyrgos h kapoio melos ths Kybernhshs na paraithqei, ws ypeyqynos ths neas tragwdias ston Ymhtto;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai ola ta melh ths Kybernhshs exoyme apolyth synaisqhsh ths eyqynhs mas. Gi` ayto, se kaqhmerinh bash, gia para polles wres, asxoloymaste me ayto to qema. O kaqenas analoga me tis armodiothtes toy. O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwnetai kai dinei kateyqynseis. H prospaqeia h opoia ginetai apo tis armodies dynameis, to Pyrosbestiko Swma kai oxi monon, einai prospaqeia poy mporw na pw oti exei apodwsei apotelesmata kalytera se sxesh me to parelqon, throymenwn twn analogiwn, an lhfqei ypoch h ektash twn pyrkagiwn kai h entash twn anemwn poy pneoyn ayth thn periodo. Pisteyoyme, oti fwties poy elegxontai, mesa se kapoies wres, entos ths idias hmeras, af` otoy ekdhlwnontai, deixnoyn, metajy twn allwn, para tis dysmeneis synepeies poy exoyn -gia tis opoies lypoymaste kai lypoymaste me syntribh- oti h drash toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos kai twn dynamewn poy to bohqoyn s` ayth thn prospaqeia toy einai ikanopoihtikh. Deite ti ginetai se alles xwres. Qymhqeite ti egine sth xwra mas palaiotera, otan gia perissoteres apo mia hmeres dinotan maxh gia na tiqaseytei mia pyrkagia. Qa prepei, loipon, na apofeygoyme aytoys toys mhdenismoys, oi opoioi den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta kai adikoyn kai telika prosballoyn kai qigoyn ekeinoys oi opoioi, ayth thn krisimh wra, dinoyn maxh me kindyno ths idias ths zwh toys, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn thn pyrkagia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, posoi prepei na kaoyn gia na eyaisqhtopoihqei ayth h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh einai perissotero eyaisqhth, para pote, gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th zwh sympolitwn mas, me ton eqniko ployto, me thn atomikh idiokthsia. Kai pisteyw oti thn eyaisqhsia ayth, se polloys tomeis, alla kai sto sygkekrimeno, th deixnei se tetoio baqmo poy pote sto parelqon allh Kybernhsh den eixe epideijei. Den prepei, loipon, na parasyromaste se tetoioy eidoys eykoles kataggelies, oi opoies kai atekmhriwtes einai -doqentos oti h hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs kai h hgesia toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos exoyn labei ola ta metra gia thn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy- kai parablepoyn to gegonos oti oi synqhkes einai poly ektaktes, logw ths megalhs entashs twn anemwn. Aytos o paragontas einai kaqoristikos kai symballei arnhtika sthn antimetwpish kai thn tiqaseysh mias pyrkagias. Ayth thn wra, ekdhlwqhke kai einai se ejelijh pyrkagia sthn perioxh toy neoy Boytza sth Nea Makrh. H entash twn anemwn einai poly megalh. Petoyn ekei dyo Sinoyk. Ta aeroplana antimetwpizoyn terastia problhmata, logw ths sfodrothtas twn anemwn. Ti allo mporei na kanei o opoiosdhpote -oxi monon h shmerinh Kybernhsh- paragontas h foreas se olo ton kosmo, gia na antimetwpisei aytoy toy eidoys ta fainomena; Eidate ti ginetai se alles xwres. Stis HPA panw apo 15 hmeres, sthn perioxh ths Flwridas, synexizontan oi pyrkagies, ekkenwqhkan perioxes, metaferqhkan plhqysmoi pleon twn ekato xiliadwn katoikwn. Nomizw oti qa prepei na exoyme mia aisqhsh toy metroy, prokeimenoy h stash mas -otan diatypwnoyme qeseis gia tetoia qemata- na fanerwnei kai eyqynh, alla kai endiaferon kai proqesh symbolhs sthn epilysh twn problhmatwn kai oxi gia na dhmioyrgoyntai entypwseis gia na apokomisoyme dhqen kapoia mikrokommatika ofelh, pragma to opoio, telika, den symbainei, giati o laos exei kai mnhmh kai krish kai gnwsh kai mporei monos toy abiasta na bgalei ta symperasmata toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, h Kybernhsh qa stamathsei, qa allajei to nomo gia na mh ginontai peiramatozwa oi pyrosbestes;

REPPAS: Moy dinete, me thn erwthsh sas, thn eykairia na pw oti oi andres poy xaqhkan den einai neoi sto Pyrosbestiko Swma. Apo ta stoixeia poy yparxoyn prokyptei oti oi andres poy exasan, xqes, th zwh toys eixan makra qhteia sto Pyrosbestiko Swma. O palaioteros, o Maloykos Dhmhtrios, eixe qhteia 23 xronwn. Eixe entaxqei sto Pyrosbestiko Swma to 1975. O Arxipyrosbesths, Mayroeidhs Qemistoklhs, katetagh to 1981. O Diabolhs Alejandros eixe katatagei to 1996. Kapoioi apo aytoys poy xaqhkan eixan labei, polles fores, meros se tetoioy eidoys epixeirhseis, mazi me andres, oi opoioi shmera einai ajiwmatikoi toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos kai oi idioi mas enhmerwsan kai gia to hqos kai gia to qarros poy eixan epideijei, sto parelqon, se epixeirhseis katasbeshs pyrkagiwn se dash. Einai adiko, loipon, na yparxei mia entypwsh, na yferpei ayth h fhmologia oti aproetoimastoi kai anekpaideytoi, apeiroi kai anetoimoi, paradoqhkan stis floges.

KARASABBA: Kyrie Ypoyrge, afoy milhsate gia porismata, qa hqela na rwthsw, ena mhna meta, af` otoy h Kybernhsh anakoinwse kapoies diaforetikes antilhceis, yparxoyn kapoia stoixeia, kapoia porismata, gia poio logo proklhqhkan ayta h emmenete stis arxikes sas qeseis oti einai anoikta ola ta endexomena;.

REPPAS: Asfalws, afoy den exei oloklhrwqei ayth h ereyna mporoyme na poyme oti ola ta endexomena ereynwntai kai ara einai anoikta. Den qa prepei na eimaste kathgorhmatikoi. Den qa prepei na bgazoyme symperasmata an den exoyme oloklhrwsei ayth thn ereyna. Kai qelw na sas pw oti ayth thn periodo, poy einai periodos maxhs gia toys andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, den prepei na diatypwnontai kathgories, oyte na asxoloyntai kapoioi me alla qemata, apospwmenoi apo to basiko kaqhkon, poy einai na symbaloyn sthn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn. Qa oloklhrwqoyn aytes oi ereynes. Alla, dystyxws, ereynes gia pyrkagies diejagontai, edw kai arketa xronia, sthn Ellada. Ta symperasmata ta opoia exoyn ejaxqei apodidoyn tis aities se diafora fainomena, alla kai se emprhsmoys. Den yparxei, omws, kati pio sygkekrimeno. Kai ayto einai h alhqeia. Gia na mhn parapoioyme ta pragmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Telika yparxei kapoios ypeyqynos gia olh ayth thn istoria; Yparxoyn ypeyqynoi;

REPPAS: Otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna kai diapistwqei oti prokyptoyn eyqynes, qa apodoqoyn ta toy Kaisaros tw Kaisari. Den mporei, omws, ayth thn krisimh wra poy diaqetoyn oloi ton kalytero eayto toys, na tiqentai sto stoxastro ths kritikhs kai ths apodokimasias opoioydhpote alloy, o opoios ek toy asfaloys mporei na diatypwnei kathgories, parablepontas tis synqhkes mesa apo tis opoies dinoyn th maxh aytoi oi andres kai oi armodioi foreis. H Kybernhsh exei kanei to kalytero dynato, prokeimenoy na einai etoimes oi dynameis na antimetwpisoyn ayta ta fainomena. Alla, h Kybernhsh den einai dynato me apofaseis ths na orisei thn ejelijh twn fysikwn fainomenwn h na orisei tis kairikes synqhkes, oi opoies -exei diapistwqei- exoyn enan kaqoristiko, poly shmantiko, rolo na diadramatisoyn se tetoies periptwseis, me arnhtiko tropo bebaia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite "ek toy asfaloys"na diatypwnoyn kathgories; Den kahkan oi anqrwpoi;

REPPAS: Apanthsame gia ola ayta k. Stamatopoyle. Kai einai pragmatika lyphro to fainomeno ayths ths megalhs ektashs twn pyrkagiwn. Einai, omws, alhqeia -kai se sxesh me thn empeiria poy exoyme apo to parelqon- oti oi dynameis edrasan ikanopoihtika.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw an h ereyna qa ejetasei kai kata poso o stolos twn pyrosbestikwn oxhmatwn, o sygkekrimenos stolos poy diatiqetai, htan se epixeirhsiakh ikanothta sthn plhrothta toy kai, epishs, an oi stoles twn pyrosbestwn einai oi kalyteres gia th doyleia toys.

REPPAS: Ola ayta elegxontai, ola ayta ejetazontai. Prepei na sas pw oti lambanontai apofaseis gia thn ananewsh kai ton eksygxronismo toy ejoplismoy poy diaqetei to Pyrosbestiko Swma, toso se aeroplana, oso kai se oxhmata h kai se alla ylika, ta opoia xrhsimopoioyn oi andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos sth doyleia toys. Einai ena filodojo programma, alla qewroyme oti oi dynameis poy diaqetei shmera to Pyrosbestiko Swma antistoixoyn sta megeqh kai stis idiaiterothtes ths xwras mas. Alles xwres, megalyteres apo thn Ellada, den diaqetoyn sto xwro twn pyrosbestikwn yphresiwn megalyteres dynameis kai sas kalw na ereynhsete ayto to qema. Na ejetasete poies einai oi analogies kai oi antistoixies kai na bgalete ta symperasmata sas, giati diatypwnetai kai ayth h kathgoria peri toy ariqmoy twn andrwn poy diaqetoyn aytes oi dynameis, peri toy ejoplismoy poy exoyn sth diaqesh toys. Prepei na sas pw oti einai sta epipeda ta opoia problepontai dieqnws. Alla bebaiws, pantote yparxoyn periqwria beltiwshs. Kai sthn kateyqynsh ayth kineitai h Kybernhsh, gi` ayto proxwraei se ena filodojo programma ananewshs kai eksygxronismoy toy ejoplismoy kai twn ylikwn, prokeimenoy oi andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos na dieykolynontai sth doyleia toys.

BITALHS: O Ekproswpos toy Leykoy Oikoy ekane logo gia "sygkroysh dyo koinothtwn" sthn Kypro, anaferomenos sthn eisbolh. Twra exoyme mia parapoihsh, safws kai toy pneymatos twn chfismatwn twn dieqnwn Organismwn kai toy OHE, kyriws. Poio einai to sxolio ths ellhnikhs Kybernhshs; Kai deyteron, protiqetai telika h Aqhna na probei se kapoia diamartyria apenanti stis HPA kai gi` ayto to qema, giati yparxoyn kai alla zhthmata;

REPPAS: To problhma ths Kyproy einai problhma eisbolhs kai katoxhs enos megaloy tmhmatos toy nhsioy apo ton toyrkiko strato. Ayto to apodexetai h Dieqnhs Koinothta. Ayto apotelei kai th bash epi ths opoias o OHE exei labei apofaseis kai exei orisei to politiko plaisio gia th dieyqethsh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos. An dexqw oti yparxei sygkroysh sthn Kypro, h sygkroysh ayth einai metajy ths logikhs kai toy paralogismoy, toy dikaioy kai ths anomias, ths nomimothtas kai toy aytarxismoy kai ths tyrannias twn katoxikwn dynamewn. H an qelete, einai mia sygkroysh metajy toy Attila kai ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, sthn opoia anhkoyn kai oi HPA. Ayth h sygkroysh yparxei, omws einai epigenomenh ths eisbolhs kai ths katoxhs. Aytes oi dhlwseis einai aparadektes. H Kypriakh Kybernhsh gia ola ayta ta qemata probainei stis deoyses prwtoboylies kai diamartyries. Den pisteyoyme oti oi HPA exoyn apofasisei na ypokatasthsoyn ton OHE h na monopwlhsoyn thn politikh ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas gia ena qema epi toy opoioy h Dieqnhs Koinothta egkyra kai epishma exei parei sygkekrimenh qesh.

BITALHS: Na symplhrwsw, k. Ekproswpe, edw yparxei to ejhs problhma, oti h Ellada plhn twn allwn, einai kai eggyhtria dynamh sthn Kypro. Qa kanei kapoia kinhsh diamartyrias h ellhnikh Kybernhsh h qa shkwsei monh ths h Leykwsia to baros ths diamartyrias;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h ellhnikh Kybernhsh einai se armonikh eyqygrammish me tis prwtoboylies ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy megaloy eqnikoy qematos. Einai gia thn Ellada eqniko qema to Kypriako qema. To exoyme pei kat` epanalhch. Qa prepei, loipon, na anamenete oti h ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa kanei o, ti prepei na kanei, prokeimenoy oxi mono na dhlwsei th qesh ths epi toy qematos aytoy, alla na askhsei kai thn epirroh poy exei h na piesei h na zhthsei, wste h topoqethsh kai twn HPA kai olwn twn xwrwn na einai symfwnh kai enarmonismenh me tis apofaseis toy OHE. Giati aytos o Organismos, se teleytaia analysh, apotelei kai to plaisio ths synyparjhs olwn twn kratwn ston kosmo mas. Oyai kai alimono, an diarragei ayto to plaisio.

G. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, shmera kanonika, symfwna me ayta poy mas eixate pei proxqes, eprokeito na ginei h synanthsh toy Ypoyrgoy Ygeias k. Geitona me to paraithqen D. S. toy nosokomeioy "Papagewrgioy". Yparxoyn plhrofories oti ta melh toy D. S. toy nosokomeioy den qa kateboyn sthn Aqhna. Qa pragmatopoihqei, telika, ayth h synanthsh;

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos Ygeias exei kalesei ta melh toy D. S. se synanthsh. Pisteyoyme oti qa ginei ayth h synanthsh shmera kai elpizoyme pws qa einai paragwgikh, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato na leitoyrghsei ayto to megalo nosokomeiako sygkrothma. Ta melh toy D. S., poy mexri twra exoyn shkwsei ena megalo meros ths prospaqeias, pisteyoyme oti qa symballoyn me ychlo aisqhma eyqynhs, wste na antimetwpistoyn kai ta ekkremh qemata, na lyqoyn ta enapomeinanta problhmata kai na leitoyrghsei to Nosokomeio sth Qessalonikh. Giati to exei anagkh o plhqysmos ayths ths perioxhs, to exei anagkh to Systhma Ygeias ths xwras mas

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, an mporeite na mas plhroforhsete, exei ginei to apanthtiko diabhma ths Aqhnas sthn Agkyra kai an exei ginei, poio einai to periexomeno toy;

REPPAS: Gi` ayto to qema parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Fantazomai oti mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy, qa exoyn ginei oles oi aparaithtes energeies. Den exw kapoia idiaiterh plhroforhsh.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Epeidh to eixate proanaggeilei, gi` ayto rwthsa.

REPPAS: Bebaiws, giati eixame pei oti qa proboyme s` ayto to diabhma. Twra, an ayto egine proxqes h qa ginei ayrio, einai kati to opoio den eimai se qesh na sas pw ayth thn wra.

POYLIDOY: Na sas rwthsw, k. Ekproswpe, an eiste enhmeros ths diadikasias h opoia thrhqhke, prokeimenoy na epandrwqei to Grafeio Typoy ths dhmosias epixeirhshs gia thn ylopoihsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata ta opoia apofasizei me ta organa ths mia anwnymh etairia. Den einai qemata epi twn opoiwn tis apofaseis lambanei h Kybernhsh. Den gnwrizw leptomerws poies apofaseis exoyn labei to organa ths anwnymhs etairias. Pisteyw, omws, oti stoxos olwn twn politwn, olwn twn Ellhnwn, poly perissotero aytwn poy exoyn analabei na shkwsoyn to baros ths diorganwshs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, qa einai na stelexwqei to Grafeio Typoy me o, ti katallhlotero emcyxo dynamiko diaqetei h xwra mas sto xwro ths epikoinwnias kai ths enhmerwshs.

POYLIDOY: Den sas rwtw gia to stoxo. O stoxos mporei na einai aytos...

REPPAS: Exei anakoinwqei epishma h stelexwsh toy Grafeioy Typoy;

POYLIDOY: Etsi, anaferoyn dhmosieymata.

REPPAS: Den exei lhfqei kapoia apofash. Ayto poy gnwrizw egw einai oti den exei apofasistei kati oristika. Ginontai syzhthseis ek meroys twn ekproswpwn ths A. E. Den gnwrizw na exei lhfqei telikh apofash.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den sas rwtaw an einai katallhla h oxi ta proswpa. Sas rwtaw poia einai h diadikasia, an qa ginei me anaqesh, me prokhryjh klp.

REPPAS: Gia ta qemata ayta qa apofasisei h Organwtikh Epitroph ths Anwnymhs Etairias.

POYLIDOY: Symmetexei kai h Kybernhsh s` ayth thn A. E.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh, opws kai ta kommata, symmetexoyn me ekproswpoys toys sth megalh Eqnikh Epitroph. Apo ekei kai pera, h Organwtikh Epitroph, poy epexei qesh D. S., gia th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn lambanei tis apofaseis ths, symfwna me ton tropo poy leitoyrgoyn ola ta dioikhtika symboylia. Kai pisteyw oti einai enas tropos antikeimenikos, dhmokratikos kai diafanhs. Qa kanei to kalytero dynato gia kaqe qema kai gia to sygkekrimeno. Ej oswn gnwrizw, pantws, den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash h toylaxiston den yparxei oristikh apofash.

POYLIDOY: Ws Ypoyrgos Typoy den qa endiaferqeite gia na deite ti ginetai s` ayth thn periptwsh, epeidh prokeitai gia mia dhmosia epixeirhsh; Eixate deijei analogo endiaferon gia tis alles DEKO.

REPPAS: O Organismos aytos exei epikoinwnia me ola ta synarmodia Ypoyrgeia, analogws twn qematwn poy kaleitai na antimetwpisei kaqe fora. Gia ta qemata ayta -epanalambanw- o xwros twn Meswn Enhmerwshs ekproswpeitai sto D. S., sthn Organwtikh Epitroph ayths ths A. E. apo ton Proedro twn Syntaktwn Aqlhtikoy Typoy, ton k. Qeodwrakopoylo, o opoios bebaiws, exei ena barynonta rolo me th symmetoxh toy ayth sthn Organwtikh Epitroph, sto D. S.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytos diorizei;

REPPAS: Eipa oti ekproswpeitai o xwros toy Typoy, den eipa oti aytos diorizei. Eipa oti yparxei D. S. to opoio apofasizei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opws to lete, katalabainoyme oti aytos diorizei...

REPPAS: Eipa oti ekproswpeitai, k. Stamatopoyle.

KARASABBA: H kataskeyastria etairia twn antiaeroporikwn systhmatwn Patriot diafhmizei, hdh, to proion ths se ellhnika periodika. Qa hqela na rwthsw prwton, an kata synepeia, exei doqei ellhnikh eggyhsh gia thn agora toy systhmatos kai deyteron, an mporeite na mas prosdiorisete poia mera ths erxomenhs ebdomados qa erqei o k. Miler sthn Aqhna.

REPPAS: Den exei doqei opoiadhpote eggyhsh, doqentos oti den exei lhfqei opoiadhpote apofash gia thn promhqeia kapoioy pyraylikoy systhmatos gia tis anagkes amynas ths xwras. Pws einai dynaton na exeis dwsei eggyhsh gia kati, to opoio den s` exei apasxolhsei; Oson afora thn episkech toy k. Miler prepei na sas pw oti meta thn episkech toy sthn Kypro qa elqei, thn erxomenh ebdomada, kai sthn Ellada kai qa synanthqei me paragontes toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, hqela na rwthsw: Yparxei ena "paramagazo" toy Majimoy poy legetai OPEK, to opoio diorganwnei dejiwseis, diafora "loykoylia" geymata. Poios plhrwnei gi` ayta;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, den prepei na eimaste pio semnoi kai otan diatypwnoyme erwthseis na apofeygoyme xarakthrismoys, oi opoioi mporei na einai kai adikoi; To lew ayto, giati h diatypwsh mias erwthshs periexei -opws exw pei kai allote- kai thn apanthsh ths h deixnei oti o erwtwn exei bgalei kai ta symperasmata toy, oti exei mia telikh qesh. Opote, mporw na pw ki egw, oti h apanthsh poy qa dwsw anhkei se ekeinh thn kathgoria twn apanthsewn opoy isxyei to "oy me peiseis, kan me peiseis". O OPEK einai enas Organismos politikoy kai ideologikoy problhmatismoy. Exei para polla melh sthn Aqhna kai se alles poleis, ta opoia me tis syndromes toys synthroyn kai enisxyoyn th leitoyrgia toy. Ayto pisteyoyme oti einai ena deigma ygeias gia th dhmosia zwh toy topoy, bohqa sthn ejygiansh kai thn anabaqmish twn politikwn hqwn kai ths politikhs zwhs genikotera. Kai ayto einai kati, to opoio prepei na xairethsoyme: na leitoyrgoyn, dhladh, kai malista na leitoyrgoyn drasthria oloi aytoi oi Omiloi, oles aytes oi Enwseis politikoy kai ideologikoy problhmatismoy, giati -ki eseis pisteyw symfwneite- prosferoyn qetikes yphresies sthn patrida mas kai th Dhmokratia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws prosferoyn qetikes yphresies k. Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Me to na dieykolynoyn thn kykloforia twn idewn, th diadosh twn apocewn, eynooyn thn antiparaqesh, th diapalh kai, telika, th synqesh twn diaforwn ekdoxwn poy o kaqe poliths, o kaqe foreas, h kaqe pleyra proteinei ws lysh gia ta koinwnika kai eqnika problhmata. Ayto einai ena fainomeno poy prepei na to xairethsoyme. Moy kanei entypwsh poy askeite arnhtikh kritikh

;STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, oi poroi einai oi syndromes twn melwn; Ayto qelete na moy peite; Apo ekei plhrwnontai;

REPPAS: Exoyme apanthsei s` ayto. Kai apanthsa kai shmera para to oti den eimai armodios na apanthsw. To kanw, omws, epeidh afenos emplejate thn Kybernhsh kai afeteroy prokaloymai otan akoyw tetoies eykoles kathgories oi opoies exoyn ena kai mono stoxo na dhmioyrghsoyn mia feygalea entypwsh, h opoia telika den wfelei kanenan. Oyte esas, oyte ekeinoys oi opoioi blepoyn me arnhtiko mati th drasthriopoihsh toy OPEK h allwn paremferwn enwsewn. Nomizw, loipon, oti kalo einai na eimaste perissotero prosektikoi kai na prostateyoyme, na yperaspizomaste th leitoyrgia tetoiwn forewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla ta melh toy OPEK chfizoyn sto synedrio.

REPPAS: Dhmioyrgeite ena komfoyzio me thn erwthsh sas. Emeis den exoyme tetoio komfoyzio sto myalo mas opws exete eseis -giati ayto prokyptei me thn erwthsh poy kanate- kai prepei na sas pw oti bebaiws kaqe poliths einai eleyqeros na anaptyssei parallhles drasthriothtes, na exei ena sygkekrimeno epaggelma, na metexei se enan politiko forea, na symmetexei se kladikes enwseis h swmateia, na symmetexei se omiloys problhmatismoy h se alles koinwnikes h kai qrhskeytikes organwseis. Giati ayto apagoreyetai; Epitrepetai apo to Syntagma kai emeis prepei na xairetizoyme ton energo rolo poy qeloyn na diadramatizoyn kapoioi sympolites mas.

SOYRMELH: Ayrio erxetai h ka Goylf Matis kai blepei ton k. Shmith. Problepetai kapoia synenteyjh ths, na anaggelqei kapoio paketo, to perifhmo paketo...

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, opws eide thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, ton koinotiko Epitropo k. Flin, qa dexqei ayrio, stis 2.30 to meshmeri, thn ka Matis, h opoia bebaiws qa exei kai alles synanthseis sthn Ellada, gia ta qemata ths armodiothtas ths.

SOYRMELH: Ayrio, apo o, ti fainetai, par` oles tis epifylajeis sas, mallon qa ginei kapoia anaggelia gia to ejoplistiko. Ti wra qa ginoyn oi dhlwseis;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti mexri tis 14.00 qa exei oloklhrwqei h synedriash, giati stis 14.30 o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei thn ka Matis.

MOYRTZHS: Hqela na rwthsw, an qa thrhqei to asymbibasto gia th qesh aytwn poy qa stelexwsoyn to Grafeio Typoy ths Olympiadas me thn diathrhsh apo toys dhmosiografoys aytoys allwn qesewn toys sto Dhmosio. Kai to allo qema to opoio nomizw sas afora proswpika, an exete diereynhsei posoi dhmosiografoi einai misqodotoymenoi kai posoi apasxolhsimoi sto Ypoyrgeio Typoy;

REPPAS: Einai ena qema to opoio parakoloyqei o Genikos Grammateas k. Nikos Aqanasakhs. Yparxoyn dhmosiografoi oi opoioi einai ypallhloi sto Ypoyrgeio mas. Pisteyw oti prepei na antapokrinontai sta kaqhkonta poy toys exoyn anateqei. Kai opws oloi oi ypallhloi, kaqe morfhs kai kathgorias, etsi kai oi filoi dhmosiografoi qa prepei na einai synepeis sta kaqhkonta toys. Den einai dynaton na ejairoyntai twn elegxwn poy kaqe fora dienergei h Dioikhsh, prokeimenoy na diapistwsei ayth th synepeia. Oson afora twra th stelexwsh twn yphresiwn Typoy enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004, epanalambanw, oti h Organwtikh Epitroph qa ta synektimhsei ola ayta. Ayto poy einai bebaio einai toyto: oti me antikeimenikothta kai diafaneia qa ginei h epilogh ekeinwn poy qa stelexwsoyn aytes tis yphresies.

Sas eyxaristw.

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