Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-07-21

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qelw na kanw ena sxolio gia to qema ths anergias sthn Ellada, epeidh yparxoyn sxetika dhmosieymata: Epishma, h metroymenh anergia sthn Ellada anerxetai sto 10,3%, symfwna me ta stoixeia ths Statistikhs Yphresias. Sas ypenqymizw -epeidh paroysiazetai me tropo poy dhmioyrgei entypwseis mia ayjhsh ths anergias, thn teleytaia idiws periodo- oti h Kybernhsh apo to Maio ejhggeile thn politikh ths, oson afora th dhmioyrgia newn qesewn apasxolhshs kai thn epidothsh ths ergasias twn anergwn newn kai twn makroxronia anergwn. Makroxronia anergoi qewroyntai aytoi oi opoioi paramenoyn ektos ths agoras ergasias, gia diasthma megalytero toy enos xronoy.

H Kybernhsh eipe tote oti qa prepei, prokeimenoy na entaxqoyn sta programmata toy OAED oi anergoi neoi kai oi makroxronia anergoi, na ejasfalisoyn thn karta toy OAED. Kai qa ejasfalisoyn thn karta toy OAED, efoson dhlwsoyn oti einai anergoi, kataqesoyn ta stoixeia toys ston Organismo kai symplhrwqei ena dimhno gia toys anergoys neoys kai ena tetramhno gia toys makroxronia anergoys, prokeimenoy na exoyn to dikaiwma na laboyn ayth thn karta.

Ara, h politikh ayth eynohse thn tash na dhlwsoyn ta stoixeia toys, prokeimenoy na tyxoyn aytwn twn eyergetikwn apofasewn poy exei labei h Kybernhsh. Einai anamenomenh, loipon, h ejelijh h opoia parathreitai.

H anergia sthn Ellada brisketai se ena staqero epipedo. Ajizei na shmeiwsw oti ta epipeda sta opoia kineitai ta dyo teleytaia xronia den exoyn allajei. Kineitai sto 10,3%, enw ta prohgoymena xronia eixame synexh ayjhtikh tash.

Pisteyw oti h dhmioyrgia twn newn qesewn apasxolhshs kai entos toy 1998 qa anakoyfisei ena megalo meros twn omadwn aytwn twn anergwn newn kai twn makroxronia anergwn. Den prepei na dhmioyrgeitai h entypwsh oti shmera exoyme ekrhjh anergias. Einai anamenomenh kai fysiologikh ayth h ejelijh. Apla, h paraqesh twn sygkritikwn stoixeiwn toy Ioynioy toy 1997 kai toy Ioynioy toy 1998 dhmioyrgei ayth thn ceydh entypwsh. Alla sas eipa oti, kata toys teleytaioys mhnes, meta tis ejaggelies poy kaname, protrepontas oloys na eggrafoyn ston OAED gia na tyxoyn aytwn twn eyergethmatwn, anamenomeno htan -kai etsi egine akribws- na ayjhqei kai to pososto ths katagegrammenhs anergias. Kalo einai -einai deigma ejygianshs, an qelete ejorqologismoy toy systhmatos metrhsewn- h katagegrammenh anergia na deixnei thn pragmatikh anergia, thn epishma metroymenh anergia. Ayth h tash yparxei. Kai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh qa kinhqoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poia htan ta pososta anergias ta prohgoymena xronia;

REPPAS: H anergia metratai me ton tropo ayto, gia prwth fora, giati gia prwth fora yparxoyn aytes oi ejaggelies. H pragmatikh anergia einai ayth h opoia katagrafetai, symfwna me ta stoixeia ta opoia dhlwnoyn ekeinoi oi opoioi einai anergoi. Ta stoixeia twn prohgoymenwn xronwn ta opoia epejergazetai h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia, proerxontai apo toys idiwtikoys foreis, apo thn agora ergasias kai anebazoyn to pososto ths anergias sto 10,3%. Einai to epishmo pososto anergias ths xwras mas, to opoio dexetai kai h EUROSTAT. To pososto toy 10,3%, einai to idio gia ta dyo teleytaia xronia, enw ta prohgoymena xronia eixe anodikh tash. Twra, gia to 1998, pisteyw oti qa kymanqei sta idia epipeda. Den qa yparxei ayjhsh. Shmera milw gia thn katagegrammenh anergia, h opoia -epanalambanw- ayjanetai ws pososto, epeidh exoyme thn proseleysh olwn aytwn twn endiaferomenwn na entaxqoyn sta programmata toy OAED, opoy epidoteitai h apasxolhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, kai ta prohgoymena xronia, h Statistikh Yphresia kategrafe ta stoixeia ths anergias.

REPPAS: Den katalabate, omws, ti eipa k. Stamatopoyle. To pososto ths Statistikhs Yphresias den exei allajei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto, lew.

REPPAS: Ma, den exei allajei ayto to pososto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti exei allajei kai egine...

REPPAS: Einai h anergia thn opoia katagrafei o OAED, h katagegrammenh, opws leme, anergia, h opoia paroysiazei mia ayjhsh se sxesh me to 1997, ton antistoixo mhna. H ayjhsh ayth ejhgeitai apo to oti yparxei enqarrynsh twn anergwn na kataqesoyn ta stoixeia toys ston OAED, prokeimenoy na symmetasxoyn s` ayta ta Programmata Apasxolhshs, ta opoia ejaggeilame apo ton Maio. Kai einai programmata ta opoia qa efarmostoyn gia prwth fora. To pososto ayto ths katagegrammenhs anergias -prepei na sas pw kai ayto einai kati poy dhmioyrgei mia entypwsh- einai mikrotero apo to pososto ths epishmhs anergias, thn opoia metra h epishmh Statistikh Yphresia. Blepete oti para polloi den kataqetoyn ta stoixeia toys ston OAED, epeidh akribws den epiqymoyn h den gnwrizoyn tis dynatothtes poy toys parexei o Organismos aytos, prokeimenoy na ejasfalisoyn apasxolhsh.

MPOYATAR: Ayto to 10,3% einai toy 1997;

REPPAS: To 10,3% einai toy 1997.

MPOYATAR: Se ejamhnh metrhsh, nea metrhsh, yparxei gia fetos;

REPPAS: Oi metrhseis ginontai se ethsia bash. Qa perimenoyme sto telos toy xronoy ta stoixeia ta opoia qa ekdwsei h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia. Den einai eykolo na kanei kaneis gia tetoia qemata ypoqesh. Mporei, omws, na ektimhsei oti logw kai twn metrwn poy exoyme labei, den qa exoyme epideinwsh aytoy toy megeqoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na kanete ena sxolio gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz, gi` ayto poy eipe oti qa mas dwsei kai mas ena maqhma kai oti den synetisthkame apo to 1974. Akomh qa hqela ena sxolio gia thn taytoxronh, sxedon, paroysia toy k. Gilmaz sth boreia Kypro kai toy Proedroy Ntemirel sthn perioxh ths Qrakhs;

REPPAS: Kaname xqes sxetikh dhlwsh. Mporw shmera na epanalabw, an qelete, to plaisio ths politikhs mas; H Ellada ta teleytaia xronia exei epitelesei shmantikh proodo. Einai xwra ths E. E. To epomeno diasthma, qa einai kai xwra ths ONE. Qa anhkei, dhladh, sth lesxh twn xwrwn poy qa apofasizoyn gia tis tyxes ths Eyrwphs. H Kypros, para to plhgma poy edexqh, anerrwse. Edeije mia ajioqaymasth dynatothta anakamchs, wste kai h oikonomia ths na brisketai se ajiozhleyto epipedo shmera, alla kai h Kypros na qewreitai xwra, ypochfia pros entajh sthn E. E. Ki ayto qa to epityxei. H Toyrkia, para to oti komporrhmonei o k. Gilmaz, den nomizw oti mporei me thn ametroepeia kai thn proklhtikh stash ths na kerdisei to edafos to opoio exei xasei, afoy den exei epityxei kapoion apo toys megaloys stoxoys toys opoioys exei ejaggeilei kai yposthrizei oti apoteloyn gia ekeinh kentrika shmeia twn epidiwjewn ths. Me ayth thn ennoia, epeidh h politikh den prepei na askeitai mesw twn logwn alla mesw twn prajewn, kaloyme kai pali thn hgesia ths Toyrkias, me syneto tropo na symbalei wste na ejomalynqoyn oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Kai bebaiws, ayto -dhladh h staqerothta, h asfaleia kai h hremia sthn perioxh- qa exei tis eyergetikes synepeies toy, prokeimenoy kai h koinwnia ths geitonikhs xwras na anaptyxqei me kalyteroys oroys kai proypoqeseis kai o toyrkikos laos na zhsei se kalyteres synqhkes.

H episkech toy k. Ntemirel stoys Ellhnes stratiwtes-fylakes einai mia episkech filofronhshs. Den einai kati dysaresto. Einai, omws, kati poy mporei na to xarakthrisei kaneis "parwnyxida" mprosta ston ogko, to megeqos, to nohma kai th shmasia twn dhlwsewn poy kanei o Toyrkos Proedros, oson afora to Kypriako h tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Kai ayto einai poy deixnei oti h Toyrkia den einai etoimh na analabei apo th dikh ths pleyra prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn ejomalynsh twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H taytoxronh -den moy apanthsate- paroysia toy enos sthn Kypro kai toy alloy ston Ebro, den shmainei tipota;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Bgainei abiasta to symperasma -to eipa xqes, to epanalambanw- oti h paroysia tetoiwn stratiwtikwn dynamewn kai toswn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn sthn Kypro, deixnei pws h Toyrkia aisqanetai adynamh, aisqanetai anasfalhs kai prospaqei m` ayth thn prwtofanh proklhsh na kalycei ayth thn adynamia ths, giati peri aytoy prokeitai. Les kai kati epidiwkoyn na apodeijoyn oi hgetes ths Toyrkias. H xwra mas sebetai to dieqnes dikaio. Epidiwkoyme kai qeloyme kales sxeseis kai gi` ayto akribws, me cyxraimia kai synesh antimetwpizoyme ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn tis sxeseis mas me oles tis xwres kai me thn Toyrkia. Ayto poy mas endiaferei den einai h antiparaqesh kai h entash. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai h proodos toy ellhnikoy laoy. Kai bebaiws, me kalo mati blepoyme kai eynooyme thn proodo olwn sthn perioxh. Eimaste mia dynamh h opoia qelei na symbalei s` ayth thn kateyqynsh.

H paroysia, loipon, toy k. Gilmaz sthn Kypro einai mia arnhtikh paroysia, opws epishs kai h stash toy Toyrkoy Proedroy, oson afora to Kypriako, me aformh tis epeteioys toy Attila, einai mia stash h opoia den symballei sthn proodo twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, o proedreywn toy Symboylioy twn Ypoyrgwn, apantwntas se erwthsh toy k. Lampria eipe gia amerikanikh prwtoboylia poy qa analhfqei gia to qema twn S-300. Einai gnwsth se sas ayth h prwtoboylia kai ti problepei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme oti egine h synhqhs synanthsh twn politikwn dieyqyntwn ths "troikas" ths E. E. me ton ekproswpo ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs, o opoios sthn prokeimenh periptwsh htan o k. Gkrosman. Syzhthqhkan, metajy twn allwn, kai ta qemata poy mas aforoyn, to Kypriako. H amerikanikh pleyra aneptyje tis apoceis ths. Oi ekproswpoi ths E. E. anelaban na erqoyn se epikoinwnia me thn Kybernhsh ths Kyproy, na syzhthsoyn to qema kai na yparjei mia diaboyleysh gia to qema ayto metajy ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs, ths E. E. kai ths Kybernhshs twn HPA. Den exei prokycei kapoia morfh prwtoboylias, h opoia anamenetai apo thn pleyra twn HPA. Ejeqesan tis apoceis toys, egine mia analysh gia to pws exoyn shmera oi synqhkes, oson afora to Kypriako qema. Kai epeidh, akribws, yparxei ayth h sxesh -h Kypros, dhladh, einai mia xwra ypochfia pros entajh sthn E. E. - h E. E. gi` ayto to logo -kai oxi mono- alla kai oi HPA gia dikoys toys logoys, qeloyn na yparxei proodos, oson afora thn antimetwpish toy Kypriakoy problhmatos. Den yparxei, omws, kati to opoio mporei na to xarakthrisei kaneis ws ejaggelia gia analhch prwtoboyliwn.

MPOYATAR: Stis apanthseis sas, otan lete gia to qema ayto, milame gia toys S-300 h gia thn katastash sthn Kypro;

REPPAS: Gia o, tidhpote afora to kypriako qema. Metajy twn allwn, mporei na pei kaneis oti ena meros toy kypriakoy qematos etsi opws to proseggizoyn oloi oi paragontes, oles oi Kybernhseis kai oles oi pleyres einai ki ayto ths promhqeias twn S-300.

ZAXAREA: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia tis ejelijeis sthn OLYMPIAKH. Se mhnythria anafora tonizetai oti h etaireia epaqe zhmia 3 dis, ejaitias ths mataiwshs pollwn pthsewn. Poio einai to sxolio ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti einai perittes kai epizhmies gia thn OLYMPIAKH oi prwtoboylies aytes. Den xreiazetai entash, den xreiazetai antiparaqesh kai dienejh. Xreiazetai synergasia kai synennohsh, prokeimenoy na ejygianqei h O. A. Bebaiws, exei dikaiwma o kaqe poliths opws kai o ekproswpos twn ergazomenwn na askhsei ayth th dynatothta poy exei, na prosfygei, dhladh, sth Dikaiosynh. Ayto, omws, to opoio apasxolei toys Ellhnes polites -kai ayto einai to kyrio stoixeio poy kateyqynei tis skeceis kai tis protaseis mas- einai na ejyphretoyntai oi xrhstes twn yphresiwn ths O. A. Epiteloys, qa prepei kai aytoi na ejyphrethqoyn apo thn O. A., h opoia, prokeimenoy na prosferei aytes tis yphresies, pisteyw oti den prepei na apotelesei pedio antiparaqesewn kai antidikiwn. Alla, pedio gonimhs synergasias ths Dioikhshs kai twn ergazomenwn. Kaloyme, loipon, oles tis pleyres na symbaloyn, wste na antimetwpistei h krish poy dierxetai shmera h O. A.

GARGALAKOS: Exei dhmioyrghqei ena terastio qema me to Nosokomeio Papagewrgioy, eidikotera meta ton kanonismo toy Ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai exoyme kai paraithsh nomizw. Exei kapoio sxolio h Kybernhsh ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh apo thn prwth stigmh exei ekdhlwsei to endiaferon ths na ajiopoihsei thn yparxoysa ypodomh. Gi` ayto, akribws, exei proxwrhsei se seira metrwn, prokeimenoy na diasfalisei to dhmosio symferon kai na prosferei to nosokomeio ayto pros xrhsh twn politwn poy exoyn anagkh twn yphresiwn ygeias sthn eyryterh perioxh Qessalonikhs. Chfisame th symbash prosfata, thn katoxyrwsame dia nomoy. Proxwrhsame sthn katartish enos kanonismoy, prokeimenoy na einai leitoyrgiko to neo ayto noshleytiko Idryma. Xrhmatodothsame diafores ergasies, prokeimenoy na apoperatwqei to nosokomeio, giati eixe para polles elleiceis. Bohqhsame, wste na apospastei to proswpiko poy oi eidikoi qewrhsan oti einai anagkaio gia na leitoyrghsei, se prwth fash, to nosokomeio ayto. Hdh, exei egkriqei h proslhch 207 ergazomenwn diaforwn eidikothtwn sto nosokomeio Papagewrgioy. Prepei na pw, omws, oti h prospaqeia poy kanei to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias kai h Kybernhsh, sto synolo ths, den briskei thn analogh antapokrish. Qa prepei me aisqhma eyqynhs -epeidh afora prosfora yphresiwn ygeias h leitoyrgia toy nosokomeioy aytoy- kai oi alles pleyres, me opoiadhpote symmetoxh, eite einai melh toy D. S., eite oxi, eite einai diaforoi paragontes na symbaloyn, wste na leitoyrghsei, to syntomotero dynato, to nosokomeio. H Kybernhsh den prokeitai, bebaiws, na ypokycei pote se ekbiasmoys. Qa diasfalisei to dhmosio symferon, alla kai den qa distasei na parei oles tis anagkaies prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy, to syntomotero dynato, na leitoyrghsei to nosokomeio. Meqayrio, o Ypoyrgos Ygeias qa synanthsei kai qa syzhthsei me ta melh toy D. S., ta opoia ypebalan thn paraithsh toys, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme thn katastash poy ekdhlwqhke kai na anazhthqei mia lysh sto problhma. Ayto to opoio, omws, einai bebaio kai to mhnyma mas einai safes einai toyto: To nosokomeio qa leitoyrghsei to syntomotero dynato kai h Kybernhsh qa parei oles ekeines tis prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na ginei ayto.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia dhmosieymata toy Typoy peri entonhs paroysias amerikanikwn polemikwn ploiwn sto Aigaio, logw anhsyxiwn gia proklhsh "qermoy" epeisodioy, logw ths afijhs twn S-300 sthn Kypro.

REPPAS: Oi episkeceis twn polemikwn ploiwn einai programmatismenes. Ginontai kata periodoys. Den einai entonh ayth h paroysia. Exei ekdhlwqei kai alles fores, sto parelqon, me ton idio tropo kai den exei sxesh me thn eikazomenh h anamenomenh apo kapoies pleyres entash stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, h opoia mporei na odhghsei se "qermo" epeisodio, opws anaferei to dhmosieyma. Den prokyptei apo kapoia stoixeia ena tetoio endexomeno, to opoio den prepei na syndeetai me thn paroysia ploiwn jenwn stolwn, jenwn dynamewn sto Aigaio. Einai programmatismenes apo kairo kai synhqeis aytes oi episkeceis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres blepoyme na kaigontai polles perioxes ths Elladas. H Kybernhsh einai apoysa, to kratos einai apon. Ti qa ginei, poy qa paei h katastash;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti h erwthsh sas qigei toys andres ths Pyrosbestikhs kai oloys ekeinoys, oi opoioi jepernwntas ton eayton toys, synebalan, wste to fainomeno ayto na elegxqei. Ta kairika fainomena, oi ychles qermokrasies, oi entonoi anemoi prodiaqetoyn, opws poly kala gnwrizete, gia th dhmioyrgia estiwn pyrkagiwn se diafores perioxes. Lypoymai, alla ayth einai h alhqeia, ayto to fainomeno, dystyxws, epanalambanetai, sxedon, kaqe kalokairi. H Pyrosbestikh Yphresia kai oi alles dynameis exoyn epityxei se shmantiko baqmo na periorisoyn to fainomeno. Ayth thn wra oles oi pyrkagies einai apolyta elegxomenes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den ekanan tipota, k. Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Den einai etsi opws to qetete. Exoyn kanei ta panta ki exoyn katorqwsei na elegjoyn to fainomeno ayto. Dystyxws, einai mia lyphrh pragmatikothta. Ta fainomena twn pyrkagiwn den einai kainoyrgia sthn patrida mas, to gnwrizete poly kala.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, skeftetai h Kybernhsh na allajei ayto poy ekane prin apo pente mhnes kai edwse sthn Pyrosbestikh thn pyrasfaleia olhs ths xwras;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizoyme tetoio endexomeno.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Xqes, eixame thn kataggelia mias akomh astynomikhs ayqairesias sth Stylida. Poy qa paei ayto;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto, to opoio kataggelqhke, h hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs anelabe thn prwtoboylia na efarmosei, gia prwth fora, ton prosfato nomo, ton opoio chfise h Boylh. Diejagetai ereyna gia na ginoyn gnwstes oi synqhkes aytoy toy epeisodioy. Thn ereyna ayth den qa thn kanei organo ths Astynomias, alla dikastikos, me apotelesma to porisma poy qa ekdwsei kai qa fwtizei ta pragmatika peristatika na einai bebaio oti den qa tyxei ths arnhtikhs kritikhs h ths diatypwshs diaforwn amfiboliwn, opws, isws, qa synebaine an to porisma ayto to ejedide ena astynomiko organo, mia astynomikh yphresia. Na, loipon, poy deijame eyaisqhsia s` ayto to qema. Ajiopoioyme ena eksygxronistiko metro, to opoio prosfata chfise h Boylh. H Dikastikh Arxh na einai ayth h opoia qa kanei ton elegxo kai thn ereyna. Gia ola ayta ta qemata klhqhke kai enhmerwqhke diplwmaths-ekproswpos ths albanikhs kybernhshs apo ton opoio zhthqhke na kataqesei kai oti stoixeia eixe ypoch toy, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn kalyterh dynath diekperaiwsh aytoy toy ergoy.

Sas eyxaristw poly!

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