Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-05-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27.5.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Eixa th xara shmera na syzhthsoyme to qema ths doryforikhs/chfiakhs-syndromhtikhs thleorashs, me toys synadelfoys sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias sth Boylh, epi peripoy dyo wres. Nomizw oti htan xrhsimh kai katatopistikh ayth h syzhthsh. Sas exw enhmerwsei gia to qema. Proxwroyme me bash to sxediasmo poy exoyme anakoinwsei.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KIAOS: Yparxei kati newtero;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kati newtero. Apla, qa exei endiaferon, an qelete, na promhqeyteite ta praktika ths syzhthshs, wste na exete mia enhmerwsh peri twn qematwn poy syzhthsame, ta opoia, se kapoies periptwseis, qewrw oti ta syzhthsame diejodika.

ELENOPOYLOS: Shmera pali epese jylo ejw apo th Boylh, opws kai ston Peiraia, opws maqame prin apo ligo. Poso qa synexistei ayth h istoria me ta MAT;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw, pragmati, oti exoyn traymatistei astynomikoi.

KIAOS: Mono;

REPPAS: Symfwna me tis plhrofories moy, exoyn traymatistei astynomikoi. Epeidh eginan symplokes, isws exoyn kapoioys traymatismoys kai oi apergoi. Ayto to opoio qa hqela na sxoliasw einai toyto: To dikaiwma ths apergias einai iero. Oi ergazomenoi exoyn th dynatothta kai di` aytoy toy tropoy na diekdikoyn th lysh twn problhmatwn poy toys apasxoloyn kai na yperaspizontai ta symferonta toys. Qa prepei, omws, na antilhfqoyn oti oi asxhmies stis opoies katafeygei mia mikrh merida ergazomenwn apergwn-diadhlwtwn amayrwnoyn to syndikalistiko kinhma kai adikoyn to periexomeno toy, politikoy xarakthra, syndikalistikoy agwna toys. Gi` ayto prepei na apofeygontai. Tetoia fainomena, nomizw, mas gyrizoyn pisw, den prowqoyn thn ypoqesh twn ergatikwn agwnwn. Antiqetws, blaptoyn, epeidh dhmioyrgeitai mia eikona pleon, sto koinwniko synolo, gia sygkekrimenes koinwnikes omades, h opoia kaqe allo para kolakeytikh einai gi` aytes. Exw th gnwmh, loipon, oti pantote se mia eynomoymenh politeia, opws einai h xwra mas, yparxei plaisio na anaptyssei o kaqenas aproskopta th drasthriothta toy, akomh ki otan apergei, akomh ki otan diadhlwnei me synqhmata enantion ths politikhs hgesias. Den prepei, omws, pote na jeperna ayta ta oria, ta opoia ton odhgoyn se adiejodo, giati ton fernoyn se antiparaqesh me tis alles omades twn ergazomenwn. Shmera, gnwrizete oti exei khryxqei apergia. Parakalw na anazhthsete ta stoixeia ki eseis gia to pososto symmetoxhs se ayth thn apergia. Oi dikes moy plhrofories lene oti to megalytero tmhma twn ergazomenwn sto dhmosio tomea, shmera askei kanonika thn ergasia toy. Ayto hqela na pw ws geniko sxolio. Den einai eyxarista ayta ta fainomena, alla den einai eyqynh enos sygkekrimenoy anqrwpoy h mias sygkekrimenhs pleyras to na ta yperboyme ayta ta fainomena. Gi` ayto xreiazetai cyxraimia, aytosygkrathsh, enas tropos poy deixnei eyqynh, kaqws anaptyssoyme ayth thn agwnistikh drasthriothta mas.

KIAOS: Eipate mia lejh "asxhmies". Ti sygkekrimenes asxhmies eginan;

REPPAS: H ektojeysh antikeimenwn se baros allwn syndikalistwn. Eixame kai tetoia fainomena shmera. Ayta pisteyw oti einai prwtognwra gia to syndikalistiko kinhma, toylaxiston gia ta teleytaia xronia. Gia osoys gnwrizoyn thn istoria toy syndikalistikoy kinhmatos tetoia fainomena den exoyn prohgoymeno.

KIAOS: Ti egine; Me sygxwreite, epeidh den exw ypoch moy, mphke h astynomia dhladh na toys xwrisei;

REPPAS: H astynomia, apla, exei parataxqei se diafores krisimes qeseis, prokeimenoy na diafylajei xwroys, opws einai h Boylh. Den exei kanena logo h astynomia na ypeiselqei sta eswterika twn ergazomenwn.

KIAOS: Oi traymaties einai mono astynomikoi; Den einai kai diadhlwtes, den einai apergoi;

REPPAS: Den exw kapoia stoixeia. Exw stoixeia gia traymatismoys astynomikwn ston Peiraia kai sthn Aqhna. Epeidh akribws exoyn thn ejarthsh kai ton ejoplismo toys oi astynomikoi, alla kai kapoioi ek twn apergwn kratoyn sta xeria toys jyla h alla antikeimena, antilambaneste pws otan, ek twn pragmatwn, prokyptei antiparaqesh, yparxoyn kai aytoy toy eidoys oi "apwleies". Eyxomaste na einai mikres kai na mh dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata se aytoys oi opoioi ypesthsan, me ton ena h ton allo tropo, epiqesh.

JENAKHS: Eixame pali xqes to apogeyma mia emplokh sthn Olympiakh. Ap` oso jerw, mexri prin apo ligo den eixe petajei kanena aeroplano. Exete na mas peite kati;

REPPAS: H Olympiakh talaipwreitai, epeidh akribws to programma ejygianshs, prokeimenoy na ejelixqei kai na oloklhrwqei , den exei thn yposthrijh ap` oles tis pleyres, sto baqmo poy ayto einai aparaithto.

JENAKHS: Poies pleyres ennoeite;

REPPAS: Oles tis pleyres. Ennow tis pleyres twn ergazomenwn, diaforwn kathgoriwn ergazomenwn, poy ayth thn poly krisimh gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia periodo prepei na jeperasoyn ton eayto toys, wste h O.A. na anaptyxqei. Oxi apla na katastei biwsimh, alla na anaptyxqei kai na ginei kai antagwnistikh.

SOYRMELIDHS: Epeidh milame gia thn Olympiakh, me entolh toy k. Tsakiridh apagoreythke mia mono efhmerida na kykloforei sta aeroplana, h HMERHSIA. Ws armodios Ypoyrgos ti qa kanete;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei tetoia apofash. Kanw mia -qa moy epitrecete na pw- yperbash, gia na pw oti an pragmatika yparxei tetoia apofash, thn apodokimazw. Einai dynaton na apofasizei o epikefalhs enos Organismoy, poies efhmerides qa metaferontai kai poies oxi; H epilogh twn efhmeridwn apotelei stoixeio protimhshs toy idioy toy anagnwstikoy koinoy. Den mporei kaneis na epibalei sto koino poia efhmerida qa anagnwsei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi Toyrkoi fainetai na dhmioyrgoyn kai pali klima entashs sto Aigaio. Etoimazoyn askhseis olo ton Ioynio, opws anaferetai, kai ayto einai kindynos kai gia ton ellhniko toyrismo, enw o k. Tzem, xqes, ekane dhlwsh kai kalei thn Ellada se anoixto dialogo. Pws apantate se ola ayta;

REPPAS: Sthn "prosklhsh" toy k. Tzem dinoyme kai pali thn apanthsh poy kata kairoys exoyme dwsei se analoges "prosklhseis". Prepei na pw oti h politikh thn opoia akoloyqei h Toyrkia, kaqe allo para peiqei oti endiaferetai, mesw enos dialogoy, na antimetwpisei kai na lysei problhmata, ta opoia, kata th gnwmh ths, yparxoyn. Ena problhma poy anagnwrizoyn kai oi dyo pleyres oti yparxei sto Aigaio kai einai ayto ths yfalokrhpidas, h Toyrkia arneitai na to antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy, synennooymenoi mesw twn diadikasiwn toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs. Ayto deixnei, loipon, pws den exei endiaferon na synergastei gia na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata, ta opoia kratoyn se ojythta, se entash tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Oi askhsei tis opoies exei anakoinwsei h Toyrkia, ginontai se ena xwro, o opoios einai dieqnhs. Bebaiws, kai h diejagwgh twn askhsewn, se nomimo plaisio, exei thn politikh shmasia ths. Mporei na pei kaneis oti exei ena stoixeio proklhshs o sxediasmos ayths ths askhshs. Mia proklhsh, h opoia prepei na lhfqei ypoch kai apo to dieqnh paragonta. Den prepei na sas diafeygei oti ta teleytaia xronia exei anaptyxqei stratiwtikh drasthriothta, sto plaisio askhsewn, se ena megalo eyros sth Mesogeio. Ypenqymizw oti h Ellada kai h Kypros kanoyn gymnasia, koina, sthn Anatolikh Mesogeio, se perioxes poy den ekanan liga xronia prin. Prepei na anagnwrisw oti h Toyrkia diejagei askhseis pleon, se mia perioxh poy den exei kanei toylaxiston se toso megalo eyros sto parelqon. Para to oti oi askhseis aytes einai nomimes, qa prepei na pw, epanalambanontas ta osa prohgoymena anefera, oti exoyn ena stoixeio proklhshs. Dinoyn ena shma to opoio den mporei na perasei aparathrhto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai gegonos oti exoyn mplokarei 17 zwnes sto Aigaio, olo ton Ioynio;

REPPAS: Exoyn zhthsei desmeysh perioxwn notia kai dytika ths Krhths. O xwros aytos ton opoio epiqymoyn na desmeysoyn gia na kanoyn tis askhseis toys einai -epanalambanw- dieqnhs xwros. Einai qema sto opoio apanthsa prin se analogh erwthsh. Mas apasxolei. Prepei oloi na bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas. Den bohqa sthn kateyqynsh thn opoia o k. Tzem isxyrizetai oti qelei na symbalei, legontas pws prepei na lysoyme ta qemata poy apasxoloyn tis dyo xwres. Den ta lynoyme etsi ta qemata poy apasxoloyn tis dyo xwres, dhmioyrgwntas ena tetoio klima, mesw tis diejagwghs askhsewn aytoy toy eidoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H synanthsh, poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, eixe ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Oxi. Den eixe ayto to antikeimeno. O Prwqypoyrgos syzhta taktika me toys synergates toy. Sto plaisio aytwn twn synanthsewn o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den to eixate anakoinwsei, gi ayto rwtaw.

REPPAS: Den exw anakoinwsei kai alles synanthseis poy eginan. O Prwqypoyrgos exei kaqhmerina ena programma synanthsewn to opoio den anakoinwnetai.

DHMAKAS: Poio htan to antikeimeno, kybernhtika qemata h to ypoyrgeio Amynas;

REPPAS: Qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Ektimate oti h Toyrkia, di aytoy toy tropoy, epanaferei tis diekdikhseis ths gia th Gaydo;

REPPAS: Exei diatypwsei aytes tis diekdikhseis h Toyrkia kai exei apodokimastei apo oloys, kaqws tis diatypwse me enan tropo, o opoios htan pasidhla ektos toy plaisioy twn dieqnwn synqhkwn. Gnwrizetai poly kala oti h apodokimasia ayth htan entonh apo to dieqnh paragonta. H Toyrkia, an emmesws yponoei oti exei bleceis sth Gaydo, qa apogohteyqei kai pali. Giati afenos den epitygxanei na prowqhsei ayton ton skopo ths, afeteroy me mia tetoia kinhsh to mono poy epitygxanei einai na eisprajei apo oloys thn arnhtikh kritikh toys.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw, meta tis shmerines synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Xaralampopoylo kai ton k. Papoylia, ean prokeitai na dei kai alla stelexh toy PASOK, ta opoia mexri twra kratoysan apostaseis, dhladh den symmeteixan energa sto proskhnio ths politikhs kai kommatikhs zwhs ths xwras kai toy PASOK, eite eixan kata kairoys ekfrastei me epifylajeis kai problhmatismoys gia thn akoloyqoymenh politikh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos synantatai taktika me kybernhtika kai kommatika stelexh. Den exei programmatistei kapoia allh sygkekrimenh synanthsh. Alla, bebaiws, sto metro kai sto plaisio twn synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me stelexh, tipota den apokleietai.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi antirrhseis ths Elladas, sxetika me thn askhsh, qa metaferqoyn epishmws sthn toyrkikh pleyra;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia, mesw aytwn twn diadikasiwn poy problepontai, zhta na desmeysei orismenoys xwroys gia na kanei mia stratiwtikh askhsh. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa akoloyqhsei tis diadikasies poy nomimws problepontai, prokeimenoy, mesw ths Yphresias ths Politikhs Aeroporias kai oxi mono, na ejetasei th dynatothta poy exei, wste nomimws na diejaxqei ayth h askhsh. Apo kei kai pera yparxei kai to politiko qema. H Ellada qetei to politiko qema otan h Toyrkia diekdikei ellhnika edafh h parabiazontas to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tis Dieqneis Synqhkes, feretai me enan tetoio tropo se baros twn ellhnikwn symferontwn, parabiazontas ton enaerio h ton qalassio eqniko xwro. Tetoia qemata den yparxoyn sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Ara, antilambaneste, den yparxei kai antikeimeno gia th diatypwsh enos diabhmatos, kata kapoio tropo. Alla, bebaiws, to politiko nohma olhs ayths ths drasthriothtas yparxei sto akeraio.

KANELLAKHS: Sth Birtzinia twn HPA arxizoyn shmera oi ellhnoamerikanikes stratiwtikes synomilies. Gnwrizete ean qa syzhthqoyn kai ta Metra Oikodomhshs Empistosynhs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poia einai h politikh mas gia ola ayta ta qemata. O amerikanikos paragwn exei ekdhlwsei endiaferon na symbalei qetika sthn antimetwpish qematwn poy yparxoyn sthn perioxh. Anaferomai sto Aigaio, sto Kypriako. Den yparxei kati to idiaitero to opoio anamenetai apo aytes tis syzhthseis. Allwste, ekproswpos twn HPA episkeptetai thn Kypro aytes tis hmeres. Opws, epishs, gnwrizete oti ta qemata poy aforoyn tis ellhnoamerikanikes sxeseis, apasxoloyn entona, idiaiterws, thn teleytaia periodo kai ton amerikaniko kai ton eyrwpaiko paragonta.

KONTELH: Eipate oti einai proklhsh oi askhseis, alla, afoy ginontai se dieqnh ydata, kaqe xwra den mporoyse na kanei askhseis se ayta ta ydata;

REPPAS: Asfalws, oi askhseis aytes poy ginontai se dieqnh xwro, ginontai nomimws. Symplhrwsa aplws oti yparxei kai to politiko nohma poy exoyn oi askhseis aytes. Den eipa oti qa diatypwsoyme parapono h qa aposteiloyme diabhma. Eipa, omws, oti den mporei na paragnwrisei kaneis pws h desmeysh enos toso megaloy eyroys dieqnoys xwroy -gia prwth fora malista se ekeinh thn perioxh- prepei kati na shmatodotei apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias. Kai ayto to shma h to mhnyma qa prepei na to laboyn oloi, den qa prepei na to agnohsoyn.

FILHS: H Kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na topoqethqei dhmosia gi` ayto poy synebh, xqes, me to paixnidi twn metoxwn ths Ionikhs kai ths Emporikhs Trapezas meta th diarroh ths qeshs poy prokeitai na parei, poy endexetai na parei o bretanikos oikos MOODY' S, gia thn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs;

REPPAS: Pws einai dynaton na poinikopoihseis toys kanones, oi opoioi yparxoyn sto plaisio ths egxwrias kai ths dieqnoys agoras. Enas Oikos diatypwse mia apoch. Qa prepei oi synallassomenoi sto Xrhmatisthrio na einai para poly cyxraimoi kai na kanoyn tis epiloges toys xwris na parasyrontai, apo o,ti leei o opoiosdhpote Oikos h allos paragontas. Einai diko toys qema oi epiloges, tis opoies qa kanoyn, den tis epiballei kaneis. Ayto gia to opoio emeis pasxizoyme einai to syntomotero dynato na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia pwlhshs ths Ionikhs Trapezas, wste na enisxyqei kefalaiaka, kai oxi mono, to trapeziko sygkrothma ths Emporikhs, prokeimenoy na exei mia isxyrh qesh se ena antagwnistiko trapeziko periballon. Den einai kati, to opoio apotelei adikhma. Apo thn allh, bebaiws, epeidh exei thn politikh shmasia toy, gnwrizete oti h Emporikh Trapeza exei ekdwsei sxetikh anakoinwsh. Emeis ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai apeyqynomenoi stoys ependytes na toys poyme, na einai cyxraimoi, na einai prosektikoi, na mhn parasyrontai. Na steiloyme kai ena mhnyma stoys ergazomenoys ths Ionikhs kai Emporikhs Trapezas: Apo th dikh toys pleyra na symbaloyn, wste me ton pio symferonta kai eynoiko tropo, gia thn Ionikh kai thn Emporikh Trapeza, na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia pwlhshs ths Ionikhs Trapezas.

FILHS: Sas rwthsa ean yparxei politikh topoqethsh ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Thn politikh topoqethsh thn ekana molis twra. Gnwrizete poly kala oti diatypwnontai tetoies apoceis gia diafora qemata. Dhladh, ean kapoio Institoyto Strathgikwn Meletwn pei kati, emeis aytomatws qa to egkalesoyme se kapoia dieqnh Fora, epeidh eipe kati gia thn amyna mas h thn ejwterikh politikh mas; An enas allos Organismos pei kati gia thn oikonomia mas, aytomatws emeis qewroyme oti blaptontai ta symferonta mas, oti ayto synista egklhma kai prepei na kataggeiloyme to dieqnh Organismo; Ayto poy prepei na kanoyme einai na kanoyme swsta th doyleia mas. Oi ependytes na mhn parasyrontai. Emeis na exoyme ena swsto sxediasmo politikhs kai na ton efarmozoyme sthn prajh. Oi ergazomenoi se kaqe tomea na symbaloyn, wste yperaspizomenoi ta symferonta toys, na epitygxanoyn, taytoxrona, na prowqoyn kai ta symferonta toy organismoy ston opoio apasxoloyntai. Aytos einai o aristos sygkerasmos.

FILHS: H erwthsh htan kai paramenei: H MOODY'S leei pws an den poylhqei h Ionikh ayto dhmioyrgei problhma daneiolhptikhs dynatothtas kai gia thn Ionikh kai th mhtrikh ths, Emporikh. Apodexeste ayth th qesh eseis;

REPPAS: Afoy proxwrame sth sygkekrimenh politikh poy exoyme ekqesei kai anaptyjei, giati qetete zhthmata ta opoia den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta; Qa oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. Einai dynaton na syzhtoyme epi enos qematos dexomenoi mia allh ejelijh, peran ths politikhs, thn opoia exoyme ejaggeilei kai efarmozoyme;

FILHS: H erwthsh -kai syggnwmh giati den pisteyw oti thn labate ypoch sas- htan : h arxikh topoqethsh poy ephreazei krisima to qema ths dhmosias perioysias. Isxyei h oxi aytos o kindynos poy diatypwnei h MOODY'S, oti dhladh to qema ths Ionikhs ephreazei th daneiolhptikh ikanothta ths Emporikhs qetika h arnhtika;

REPPAS: Den symmerizomaste ayth thn ektimhsh, gia enan poly aplo logo: giati qa oloklhrwqei h diadikasia pwlhshs ths Ionikhs kai to apotelesma qa einai kalo gia thn Ionikh kai gia thn Emporikh. To eipa prin toso safws. Aporw giati epanerxeste.

FILHS: Dhladh, k. Ypoyrge, sygnwmh: Ean den proxwrhsei h istoria ths Ionikhs, ayto qa exei arnhtikes epidraseis sthn Emporikh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin k. Filh. Pisteyw oti oi epidraseis oi opoies qa yparjoyn gia thn Emporikh Trapeza qa einai monon qetikes, giati h akoloyqoymenh politikh katateinei -kai qa epityxoyme na exei sygkekrimena apotelesmata- sthn enisxysh ths qesh ths Emporikhs Trapezas. To eipa kai to epanalambanw: ayth einai h qesh mas. An mas egkaleite, me thn erwthsh sas, na kataqesoyme mhnysh h na egkalesoyme to Dieqnh Organismo, sas lew: den qa to kanoyme. An me egkaleite, na kaythriasw diafores dhlwseis oi opoies ginontai kai dhmioyrgoyn kindynoys, mporw na pw oti einai dikaiwma opoioydhpote na dhlwnei otidhpote, den shmainei oti tis symmerizomaste. Den tis symmerizomaste aytes tis topoqethseis twn organismwn giati qetoyn ws bash twn ektimhsewn toys, ena dedomeno to opoio, gia mas, den yparxei. Einai allh h bash ths syzhthshs, gia mas. Qewroyme oti qa oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia kai qa enisxyqei h qesh ths Emporikhs Trapezas.

FILHS: Sthn epixeirhmatologia gia thn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs, h Kybernhsh diatypwnei to epixeirhma oti ean den pwlhqei qa exei arnhtiko antiktypo sthn Emporikh;

REPPAS: Apo th stigmh poy epilejame gia to symferon ths Emporikhs kai ths Ionikhs na proxwrhsoyme sthn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs, h mh pwlhsh ths Ionikhs den shmainei aytomatws oti den qa einai pros to symferon oyte ths Emporikhs oyte ths Ionikhs;

FILHS: Ara symfwneite me th MOODY'S, m` ayto moy lete twra. Peste to apo thn arxh.

REPPAS: K. Filh, eiste adikos.

FILHS: Den eimai adikos, kaqoloy. Ta praktika yparxoyn.

REPPAS: Eiste adikos kai dhmioyrgeite problhma se oloys mas, giati qelete na kanoyme mia syzhthsh sth bash thn opoia qetei opoiosdhpote tritos, enw ayto to opoio qa eprepe na sas endiaferei, einai na gnwrizete poia einai h dikh mas qesh gia ena sygkekrimeno qema. Den qa kanoyme paixnidia lejewn. Den qa kanoyme tetoioy eidoys akrobatismoys kai askhseis. H qesh mas einai poly sygkekrimenh. O kaqenas gia opoiodhpote qema mporei na leei o,ti qelei. Den einai ajiopoinh prajh na diatypwsei kapoios thn ektimhsh toy.

FILHS: Poios to eipe ayto;

REPPAS: Ayto to opoio, omws, prepei na einai safes, einai oti den mas afora doqentos oti h ektimhsh ayth anaferetai se mia ejelijh poy kata th dikh mas bebaih qesh den qa yparjei. Giati qa prokycei sygkekrimeno apotelesma sto telos ayths ths diadikasias, to opoio den qa einai allo para h pwlhsh ths IONIKHS kai h enisxysh ths qeshs ths EMPORIKHS sto trapeziko systhma.

DHMAKAS: Yparxei prosklhsh toy k. Mpler ston k. Shmith na episkefqei to Londino; Kai an nai, toy exei steilei kai sygkekrimenh atzenta me qeseis, protaseis, gia ta qemata;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti qa ginei sth Megalh Bretania h Synodos Koryfhs, se liges hmeres. Pragmati, ektos toy plaisioy ths Synodoy Koryfhs, o kyrios kai h kyria Mpler exoyn kalesei ton kyrio kai thn kyria Shmith kai melh ths oikogeneias toys se mia oikogeneiakh episkech, koinwnikoy xarakthra, sth Megalh Bretania. Ayto exei ginei. Kai qa pragmatopoihqei ayth h episkech, prin apo th Synodo Koryfhs sto Karntif.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Se poies sygkekrimenes energeies qa probei h Kybernhsh wste na mhn perasei aparathrhto to politiko nohma ths toyrkikhs stratiwtikhs askhshs;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh Kybernhsh, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn poy exei gi` ayta ta qemata, qa epishmanei oti tetoioy eidoys askhseis, se mia perioxh h opoia brisketai poly konta se ena nhsi, toy opoioy h kyriarxia exei amfisbhthqei sto prosfato parelqon apo thn Toyrkia, den einai h kalyterh epilogh.

KAMPOYRGIANNH : Se poio plaisio; Ayto rwtw, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Eipa, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gi` ayta ta qemata. Sthn E.E., sto NATO kai opoy dieqnws syzhtoyme gi' ayta ta qemata.

Sas eyxaristw.

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