Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-03-17

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17.3.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON GENIKO GRAMMATEA TOY YPOYRGEIOY TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS NIKO AQANASAKH

Geia sas. Elpizw oti shmera qa bohqhsete kai eseis, wste na eimaste poly pio syntomoi apo xqes.

Qa hqela na jekinhsw me to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

* O Prwqypoyrgos epistrefei shmera, stis 7.30 m.m. peripoy, afoy oloklhrwsei thn episkech toy sthn Tsexia me th shmerinh toy synanthsh me ton Proedro Xabel.

* Ayrio, opws sas exw hdh pei, einai programmatismenh h episkech ergasias toy Oyggroy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Xorn, sthn Aqhna, o opoios ftanei stis 10.20 to prwi, ston Anatoliko Aerolimena. Qa exei kat' idian synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, stis 11 p.m. Oi synomilies twn dyo antiproswpeiwn qa jekinhsoyn stis 11.30 p.m. Stis 12.40 m.m. qa ginei h synanthsh twn dyo Prwqypoyrgwn me toys ekproswpoys twn Meswn Mazikhs Enhmerwshs. Stis 13.00 m.m. o k. Xorn qa ginei dektos apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. K. Stefanopoylo, sto Proedriko Megaro. Stis 14.00 m.m. o Prwqypoyrgos qa paraqesei geyma ergasias pros timhn toy Oyggroy Prwqypoyrgoy, sto Megaro Majimoy.

* Ayrio to apogeyma, o k. Shmiths qa apanthsei sth Boylh, sthn "Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy", se erwthseis ths Neas Dhmokratias, toy Synaspismoy kai toy DHKKI gia to qema ths prosarmoghs, ths isotimias ths draxmhs kai ths entajhs ths sto Eyrwpaiko Systhma Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn.

* Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qema "Politikh gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia".

Ayta exw sto programma, ews twra.

Na kanw kai ena eisagwgiko sxolio: Qa hqela na epishmanw oti synexizontai oi qetikes antidraseis stis agores poy shmeiwqhkan, xqes, prwth hmera meta ton orismo ths neas isotimias ths draxmhs. Ligo prin erqw sthn aiqoysa, h shmerinh anodos sto Xrhmatisthrio, kymainotan sto 5,56%. Synexizetai eisroh shmantikwn kefalaiwn apo to ejwteriko kai h draxmh paramenei anatimhmenh, se sxesh me thn kainoyrgia kentrikh isotimia, enw taytoxrona einai orates oi taseis apoklimakwshs twn epitokiwn. Shmeiwnw, edw, thn anafora poy exei kanei hdh o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, oti sth prwth periodo, h poreia apoklimakwshs twn epitokiwn anamenetai na einai sxetika synthrhtikh. Kai ayto gia logoys politikhs, toys opoioys mporoyme na syzhthsoyme kai edw h na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias, an to qelete.

Ara, epanalambanw -kai me bash ayta ta dedomena- ayto poy h Kybernhsh exei kat' epanalhch pei. Yparxoyn oi epiptwseis apo tis apofaseis ths perasmenhs ebdomadas. Emeis omws pisteyoyme oti kaqe poliths, kaqe epixeirhsh, kaqe synallassomenos, prepei me nhfaliothta kai cyxraimia, me swstes plhrofories kai ektimhseis, na kanei tis epiloges toy. Giati pisteyoyme oti ean den yparjoyn kinhseis neyrikothtas, prospaqeies ameshs apokatastashs aytoy poy o kaqenas fobatai oti xanei h aytoy poy sthn pragmatikothta mporei kapoios na xanei, oi agores qa kinhqoyn qetika, h poreia olh qa einai qetikh pros ofelos toy synoloy ths oikonomias kai toy synoloy twn Ellhnwn politwn. Eidate, allwste, ta prwta deigmata. H ayjhsh stis times twn petrelaiwn, ths benzinhs, htan poly mikroterh apo tis ayjhseis poy eixan proanaggelqei. Kinhqhkan se poly xamhla pososta kai etsi symbainei kai se alloys tomeis, oytws wste kaqws pernoyn oi hmeres kai prosdiorizontai akribws oi epiptwseis twn apofasewn kai twn kinhsewn poy eginan, qa mporei kaneis na parei tis swstes apofaseis kai gia ton idio kai kat' epektash gia thn oikonomia synolika.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, h Kybernhsh sth diarkeia ths diapragmateyshs gia thn entajh sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn diekdikhse desmeysh apo pleyras Koinothtas gia toys oroys entajhs ths draxmhs sto eniaio nomisma to 2001;

AQANASAKHS: Den nomizw oti isxyei kati tetoio.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh einai ligo "elastikh" h apanthsh sas, qelete na bebaiwqeite kai na epanelqete;

AQANASAKHS: Apantw, loipon: Oxi, den isxyei kati tetoio. To "den nomizw" poy eipa sthn arxh, ka Poylidoy, to eipa kratwntas thn ejhs mikrh epifylajh gia logoys genikoterhs asfaleias. Xrhsimopoihsa to rhma "nomizw" me bash th genikh arxh poy leei oti otan phgaineis se mia diapragmateysh, se kapoia fash ths einai dynato na kineisai kai me qemata poy einai apla, diapragmateytika soy shmeia. Ara, ejetazontas to poioi htan oi stoxoi ths ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, otan eqese to qema, sas lew oti bghkame apo ayth th diadikasia me aytoys toys stoxoys na exoyn epiteyxqei. Sas ejhgw, giati xrhsimopoihsa to "nomizw". Den mporw na apokleisw, dhladh, qewrhtika, se kapoia fash ths diapragmateyshs na eipwqhke kati tetoio. An to pw ayto, qa moy gracete ayrio "den apekleise oti...ara..."...

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw an mexri twra, me ta dedomena poy exete sth diaqesh sas ws Kybernhsh, eiste ikanopoihmenoi apo ta apotelesmata poy efere h prosarmogh, opws th lete, h ypotimhsh kat' eme, toy perasmenoy Sabbatoy.

AQANASAKHS: Nomizw oti ayto htan to olo klima toy arxikoy moy sxolioy. Qewroyme oti egine mia megalh, shmantikh kinhsh, opws ayth ths entajhs ths draxmhs sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn. H kinhsh ayth eixe tis epiptwseis ths me thn prosarmogh ths isotimias ths draxmhs. Oi agores antidroyn qetika. Oi agores antidroyn me empistosynh. Ta sxolia apo to ejwteriko, olwn -qa elega- twn analytwn, twn perissoterwn analytwn kai twn Dieqnwn Organismwn einai qetika sxolia poy ekfrazoyn thn empistosynh toys sthn poreia ths ellhnikhs Oikonomias. Kai emeis pisteyoyme oti opws diamorfwnontai oi synqhkes qa yparxei kaqe logos, wste h empistosynh ayth pros thn ellhnikh Oikonomia na ekfrazetai kai apo to synolo toy ellhnikoy laoy poy qa blepei orata apotelesmata sthn poreia twn epomenwn xronwn.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw, poia exeggya yparxoyn, oti ta metra poy anakoinwse o k. Papantwnioy thn Kyriakh kai ta opoia synodeyoyn thn prosarmogh, opws lete eseis, qa efarmostoyn sto akeraio; Dedomenoy oti exei perasei enamish xronos mias oikonomikhs politikhs kai oi anoxes, safws, toy kosmoy exoyn meiwqei. Ayto to paradexqhkate ki eseis san Kybernhsh. Me poia exeggya, loipon, twra, qa efarmostoyn ayta;

AQANASAKHS: Qa mporoysa na sas parapemcw se mia xqesinh moy apanthsh, opoy exw apanthsei nomizw, sxedon akribws sthn idia erwthsh...

MIXAHL: Gi' ayto sas thn epanaferw thn erwthsh.

AQANASAKHS: ... alla epeidh thn epanaferete, qa yposteite kai mia epanafora ths apanthshs.

MIXAHL: Den blaptei.

AQANASAKHS: Eipa, loipon kai xqes, oti ta metra ta opoia anakoinwqhkan, den einai nea metra. Ayto shmainei dyo pragmata:

-Prwton, oti einai politikh ths Kybernhshs poy exei diamorfwqei, exei sxediastei kai exei ejaggelqei, alla kai exoyn proxwrhsei bhmata ths ylopoihshs ths. Kai exoyme kai empeiries, qetikes h arnhtikes, apo thn prospaqeia efarmoghs meroys ayths ths politikhs.

Den jekinoyme, loipon, apo ena kainoyrgio shmeio. H afethria den einai sto shmeio mhden.

-Deyteron, h apofash einai na kinhqoyme gia thn ylopoihsh ayths ths politikhs me poly grhgoroteroys ryqmoys. Pragmata poy eixan sxediastei na ylopoihqoyn mesa se tria h tessera xronia, prosdiorizoyme oti qa ginoyn mesa se ena sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma 18 mhnwn. Bebaiws, gnwrizoyme kai tis dyskolies, eite aytes aforoyn to mhxanismo toy Dhmosioy, eite o,ti allo exoyme brei, mexri twra, mprosta mas. H apofash omws ths Kybernhshs einai na proxwrhsei me toys taxyteroys dynatoys ryqmoys. Kai to oti egw sas anakoinwnw shmera oti qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, meqayrio, Pempth (19.3.98), me qema "thn politikh gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia", nomizw oti shmatodotei kati.

KARASABA: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean h ypotimhsh ths draxmhs qa exei epiptwsh sto programma amyntikoy ejoplismoy ths xwras, an qa yparjei anaqewrhsh, an qa yparjoyn perikopes.

AQANASAKHS: Den to exw ejetasei sygkekrimena. Mporw genika na pw, oti otan antimetwpizeis allages stis synallagmatikes isotimies, prepei na epanadiatypwneis, na ferneis sta epikaira dedomena, to sxediasmo soy. Den exw, omws, ayth th stigmh mia apanthsh. Mporw na dwsw th genikh apanthsh, oti to programma twn amyntikwn dapanwn ths xwras afora thn kalych sygkekrimenwn anagkwn, stis opoies -dystyxws- eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na ypotassomeqa. Efoson oi anagkes aytes exoyn prosdioristei kai exoyn syzhthqei epaneilhmmena, qa kalyfqoyn.

KIAOS: Qa dwsei h Kybernhsh sth dhmosiothta to keimeno sto opoio symfwnhsan, to Sabbato, oi "15";

AQANASAKHS: Exei doqei sth dhmosiothta ayto.

KIAOS: Oxi, h anakoinwsh poy ejedwsan...

AQANASAKHS: Na rwthsw. Den to exw ypoch moy, k. Kiao. Eixa kalycei th dikh moy anagkh enhmerwshs me to keimeno poy eixa sthn agglikh apo th Nomismatikh Epitroph. Na rwthsw ean yparxei sygkekrimeno keimeno analytikotero kai na sas pw. Den einai sigoyro, omws, oti yparxei.

KIAOS: Kai epishs, an gnwrizete oti mesa se ena tetoio keimeno, opws qelete parte to, yparxoyn kapoioi oroi poy exoyn sxesh me to elleimma, me kapoies systaseis gia misqoys klp.

AQANASAKHS: Den yparxoyn oroi se olh ayth th diadikasia. Ta osa aforoyn to elleimma, einai stis genikes proypoqeseis sthn poreia mas pros thn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh (ONE). H diadikasia ayth poy akoloyqhqhke, den einai diadikasia opoy tiqentai oroi. Einai diadikasia, kata thn opoia h ellhnikh Kybernhsh paroysiazei tis apofaseis ths kai peiqei h den peiqei gia na ginei apodekth h entajh ths draxmhs sto Systhma. H ellhnikh Kybernhsh, loipon, paroysiase tis apofaseis ths kai to xronodiagramma ths kai epeise me bash ta genikotera stoixeia ths ellhnikhs Oikonomias oti mporoyse na ginei apodekth sto Systhma, na mpei mesa s' ayto "to systhma prostasias" -qa to onomaza etsi- systhma koinhs kinhshs twn nomismatwn, para to oti pragmati, opws sas eipa kai xqes, o deikths toy plhqwrismoy, gia paradeigma, den htan sto 3% h katw apo to 3%, poy einai to synhqes shmeio gia na ginei apodekth mia xwra s' ayto to systhma, ena nomisma s' ayto to systhma.

KIAOS: Eipate thn paroysiase h ellhnikh pleyra kai den eginan...

AQANASAKHS: Ayta poy anakoinwqhkan, lew.

KIAOS: Dhladh toses wres mesa poy syzhtoysan, den eixan apoceis epi toy qematos oi alloi omotrapezoi;

AQANASAKHS: Ypoqetika mporw na sas dwsw ena paradeigma syzhthshs. Mporei na yphrxan antirrhseis h diafores apocewn anamesa se xwres toy borra kai xwres toy notoy gia to ycos ths ypotimhshs. An kapoies xwres qewroyn, as poyme, oti eimaste antagwnistes ston tomea toy Toyrismoy, mporei na exoyn ena problhma oso h isotimia diamorfwnetai se xamhlotero epipedo. Katalabate; Dikaiologeitai mia syzhthsh, peran toy oti den htan h draxmh to mono qema ths synedriashs.

KIAOS: Oxi, ma kai pera apo ayto to paradeigma poy ferete sth syzhthsh kai paroysiazontas tis protaseis ths h ellhnikh pleyra, o allos poy pairnei to logo kai omilei (o omotrapezos) exei apoceis ...

AQANASAKHS: Ypoqetw oti oloi exoyn apoceis.

KIAOS: Ayto qelw na pw. Ara...

AQANASAKHS: Oloklhrwqhke, loipon, ayth h diadikasia antallaghs apocewn sth Nomismatikh Epitroph me th qetikh apanthsh sthn aithsh ths Elladas gia entajh ths draxmhs sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn. Den hmoyn parwn kai den mporw na sas bohqhsw perissotero. Qa dw ean yparxoyn eidikoteres plhrofories poy endiaferoyn kai qa sas enhmerwsw an xreiastei pio analytika.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apokleiete to endexomeno na prokycei kai pali anagkh gia nea ypotimhsh ths draxmhs;

AQANASAKHS: Ayto exei apokleistei kathgorhmatika. Kai exei apokleistei kathgorhmatika, oxi mono giati to dhlwsa edw xqes -nomizw me thn idia diatypwsh h epeidh to exei dhlwsei o Prwqypoyrgos, opws kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias- alla giati oi antikeimenikes synqhkes einai tetoies, opws deixnoyn kai oi agores, poy den mporei na ginei ayto. Na prosqesw oti to systhma mesa sto opoio entaxqhkame, o Mhxanismos twn Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn problepei qewrhtika mia diakymansh syn - plhn 15. Epeidh mporei na mhn sas arkei h dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias oti politika ayto den ginetai, dioti h diakymansh einai poly-poly mikroterh kai se poly mikrh zwnh, sas parakalw na deite tis xqesines dhlwseis gia to qema ayto toy k. Alogoskoyfh, o opoios anaferomenos akribws s' ayto, dhlwnei oti para to oti qewrhtika yparxei syn - plhn 15 dynatothta apoklishs, stis periptwseis entajhs sto systhma, "sthn prajh h leitoyrgia toy systhmatos problepei na periorizontai kapws oi diakymanseis gyrw apo thn kentrikh isotimia". Ara, den yparxei tetoia prooptikh kai kakws tiqetai, dioti mono katastrofologika mporei na leitoyrghsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Milhsate gia eisroh shmantikwn kefalaiwn. Ennoeite ayta poy efygan Pempth kai Paraskeyh;

AQANASAKHS: Exete kamia endeijh oti einai ta idia; Qelete na rwthsete kati allo;

STAMATOPOYLOS: To xrhmatopistwtiko kentro poy efere "mesa" xqes 500 ekat. dolaria htan ayth h Trapeza poy epaije rolo thn Pempth kai thn Paraskeyh sthn ekroh.

AQANASAKHS: Oles aytes tis plhrofories mporeite na tis dhmosieysete, ypoqetw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai dhmosieymenes kai sas rwtw. Poioi einai aytoi poy eferan ayta ta shmantika kefalaia "mesa"; Exoyme katalogo;

AQANASAKHS: Egw den exw katalogo. Eite apo to oikonomiko reportaz, eite opws sas eipa kai xqes o,ti einai nomimo na didetai, na didetai kai gnwstopoioyntai ola ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti hrqe shmantiko kefalaio eisrohs. Apo poy bgainei;

AQANASAKHS: Ti ennoeite "apo poy bgainei";

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto einai ayqaireto.

AQANASAKHS: Pws einai ayqaireto, afoy yphrje eisagwgh kefalaiwn gia thn agora titlwn;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Peste mas, poios efere.

AQANASAKHS: Eimai bebaios oti den ferate eseis, kyrie Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, egw den efera. Oyte eixa, oyte exw. Alla lete anwnyma ...

AQANASAKHS: Me sygxwreite. Edw exoyme mia sygkekrimenh synqesh s' ayth thn aiqoysa kai kanoyme mia sygkekrimenh doyleia. To pws leitoyrgei to xrhmatisthriako systhma, to Xrhmatisthrio kai oi agores, ean epiqymeite, mporw na zhthsw apo paragontes ths xrhmatagoras na erqoyn kai na mas ta ejhghsoyn ola ayta. Ti dhladh mporei na entopistei, ti den mporei, ti yparxei, ti katagrafetai, ti den katagrafetai, na ginei mia tetoia syzhthsh. Oyte egw eimai eidikos, oyte eseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi' ayto lew, peste mas ellhnika...

AQANASAKHS: Den ta afhnete na ta brei ola ayta o Eisaggeleas, ston opoio phge h Nea Dhmokratia;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo o Eisaggeleas. Egw den eimai oyte Eisaggeleas, oyte tipota. Alla sas lew. Ayta poy hrqan "mesa", poioi ta eferan; Mporoyme na jeroyme;

AQANASAKHS: Sas lew: Ypoqetw oti ola ayta ta qemata ta parakoloyqoyn apo para poly konta oi synadelfoi toy oikonomikoy reportaz poy kalyptoyn to Xrhmatisthrio, oi opoioi mporoyn na dwsoyn olo to plegma twn plhroforiwn poy einai dhmosiopoihsimo nomimws kai polles alles -ypoqetw- poy kata kairoys dhmosieyontai. Den syzhtw, den qelw na eklabete thn apanthsh moy ws prospaqeia "apokrychs" opoioydhpote stoixeioy. Yparxoyn diafores diadikasies, poy einai apo th dhmosiografikh ereyna, apo th dhmosiopoihsh aytwn poy nomimws mporoyn na dhmosiopoihqoyn, apo ton koinoboyleytiko elegxo h opoion allon elegxo, opoy oles aytes oi plhrofories sygkentrwnontai. Allwste, zoyme sthn Ellada. Sthn Ellada den yparxoyn mystika, den yparxoyn aporrhta. Na sas pw, me thn eykairia, ti elege o Oyinston Tswrtsil, opws ayth h rhsh exei katagrafei: "Se dyo xwres pane xamena ta lefta poy dineis gia kataskopoys: Sthn Iapwnia, opoy den milaei kaneis kai sthn Ellada opoy milane oloi". Loipon, den yparxoyn mystika s' ayth th xwra, kyrie Stamatopoyle.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn ypotimhsh den thn hjeran oloi, merikoi thn hjeran. Htan mystiko.

AQANASAKHS: Ayto einai h ejairesh pros epibebaiwsh toy kanona.

KAKABAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me thn eykairia, thn mhnythria anafora ths Neas Dhmokratias pws thn sxoliazete;

AQANASAKHS: Epi ths oysias eixa topoqethqei xqes. Gnwrizete oti h N.D. synetaje mia mhnythria anafora gia to qema ayto kai thn kateqese ston eisaggelea. Pisteyw oti h ka Caroyda Mpenakh, o k. Alogoskoyfhs, o k.Kefalogiannhs kai o k. Kammenos, poy proteinontai martyres, qa exoyn na proskomisoyn sobara kai sygkekrimena stoixeia ston eisaggelea, gia na dieykolynqei h ereyna ayth h opoia exei endiaferon kai ta apotelesmata ths qa einai gia oloys mas xrhsima. Elpizw, omws, oti h N.D. ektos apo to na syntassei mhnythries anafores qa asxolhqei kai me to syntajei kai kamia politikh qesh, to programma ths, kati allo en pash periptwsei, poy qa synebale sto na mas pei epiteloys poia einai h qesh ths gia ta qemata ayta. Dioti tipota den akoyme oles aytes tis hmeres, tipota den blepoyme, pera apo mia N.D. se diarkh ypotimhsh, poy ktypa eniote kai "limit down", gia na eimai sto klima twn hmerwn. Dioti, gia paradeigma, den me rwtate alla ....

KIAOS: E! Qa bgei o k. Sphliwtopoylos to brady...

AQANASAKHS: Sas parakalw! Qa bgei kai o k. Sphliwtopoylos... Exei kairo mprosta toy na kanei dhlwseis, xronia fantazomai kai qa pairnei apanthseis otan xreiazetai. Ayto poy qa sas pw den einai toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy. To akraio paradeigma sto opoio qa anaferqw - akoyste me, exei endiaferon , afora ena poly megalo tomea ths Ellhnikhs Oikonomias- einai mia xqesinh anakoinwsh ths Grammateias Agrotikoy ths N.D. h opoia ypografetai apo ton Grammatea Agrotikoy ths N.D. ton k.Mhliako, dianemetai apo th Nea Dhmokratia kai shmera anaparagetai se diafores efhmerides. Kanei enan apiqano ypologismo gia to poies einai oi epiptwseis ths prosarmoghs ths isotimias ston agrotiko tomea, gia na katalhjei sto symperasma oti oi agrotes epeidh, leei, xanoyn 466 dis draxmes kai qa exoyn ofelh 126 dis ara qa exoyn - yposthrizei h anakoinwsh ths Grammateias Agrotikoy ths N.D. - kaqarh zhmia 340 dis. draxmes!!! An einai dynaton! Edw prokeitai peri apiqanoy efeyresews maqhmatikwn, ariqmhtikhs, politikhs, aqroisewn kai afairesewn. Oi prajeis dhladh ths ariqmhtikhs xanoyn to nohma toys me aytoys toys logariasmoys. Kai sas dinw mono ena paradeigma: Se 3 tris draxmes, leei h anakoinwsh oti anerxontai oi kataqeseis twn agrotwn sto trapeziko systhma ths xwras. Tria trisekatommyria ta ypologizei kai ep' aytoy ypologizei, sto synolo olwn aytwn twn xrhmatwn, 14% apwleia. Kai ypologizei 420 disekatommyria draxmes zhmies ws ean yphrxan ayta ta 3 tris kai na phgainan shmera oi agrotes na ta metatrecoyn ola se marka. Phra aformh gia na pw ayto to akraio paradeigma dioti oles aytes tis hmeres, apo thn pleyra ths Antipoliteyshs blepoyme kai akoyme tetoia pragmata. Kai kanw mia ekklhsh, idiaitera sth N.D. me to rolo ths ws Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, na epideijei ligh perissoterh sobarothta ean mporei, na topoqeteitai me bash ta pragmatika dedomena. Na probalei bebaiws tis opoies arnhtikes epiptwseis alla den mporoyme na phgainoyme se tragelafo otan o agrotikos tomeas -kai epanerxomai sthn prohgoymenh anafora moy- einai apo toys tomeis poy oloi oi analytes toys katagrafoyn se aytoys poy qa exoyn ofelos. Stis 23 toy mhnos, sto Symboylio, qa prosdioristei h nea isotimia ths prasinhs draxmhs. Apo aythn qa prokycoyn ayjhmenes enisxyseis gia toys agrotes ths tajews twn 126 disekatommyriwn. Egw den yposthrizw oti ayta ta 126 disekatommyria qa einai kaqaro prosqeto ofelos. Den qa einai, dioti qa yparjoyn oi ayjhseis poy qa prokycoyn stoys syntelestes ths paragwghs, sta mesa, sta efodia, poy qa prepei na afaireqoyn. Einai, omws, shmantiko to ofelos kai den einai dynaton me tetoioys logariasmoys palaias mpakalikhs na kanoyme aytoy toy eidoys ton neolaikismo poy einai aney oriwn kai poy den exei qesh kai den prepei na exei qesh sthn politikh mas zwh

KARAGIANNH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh: Pote kai apo poio kybernhtiko stelexos enhmerwqhke o Proedros ths Dhmokratias gia thn apofash ths Kybernhshs na entajei to eqniko nomisma sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn kai thn apofash peri prosarmogh ths draxmhs.

AQANASAKHS: Gnwrizw oti yphrje epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy k.Shmith me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Stefanopoylo, to Sabbato to prwi.

KARAGIANNH: Ayto shmainei, kyrie Ekproswpe, oti ayto to dimhno twn diapragmateysewn, poy gnwrizan pente h eji kybernhtika stelexh, kybernhtikoi paragontes, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias den gnwrize gi' aythn thn apofash ths Kybernhshs; Den eixe enhmerwqei ;

AQANASAKHS: Zhthsa plhroforhsh gia na mporesw na sas apanthsw pote yphrje epikoinwnia me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai h plhroforhsh poy exw einai ayth poy eipa sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh moy. Den ecaja to prohgoymeno diasthma kai den mporw na to fwtisw kai prwtogenws. Alla h apanthsh moy einai ayth poy sas edwsa. To Sabbato yphrje epikoinwnia me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

Sas eyxaristw.

SHMEIWSH: Sthn epomenh selida akoloyqei syzhthsh gia diadikastiko qema poy teqhke sthn arxh ths enhmerwshs.

Geia sas.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela to logo gia ena diadikastiko qema, parakalw.

AQANASAKHS: Parakalw, ka Karasabba.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, na zhthsw, parakalw, h katagrafh, h apomagnhtofwnhsh toy mprifingk na einai pisth, oi erwthseis kai oi apanthseis.

AQANASAKHS: Exw thn entypwsh, an anaferesqe eidika stis dikes sas erwthseis, prepei na einai ...

KARASABBA: Den anaferomai mono stis dikes moy.

AQANASAKHS: An exete kapoia sygkekrimenh parathrhsh, na moy to peite.

KARASABBA: Sas to lew.

AQANASAKHS: Oi dikes moy, proswpikes diorqwseis, einai apla diorqwseis toy proforikoy logoy kai poly liges. Kai den epembainw stis erwthseis twn dhmosiografwn, akoma kai an ayto xreiazetai na ginei gia logoys prostasias kapoioy synadelfoy, poy mporei na mhn exei kanei mia kalh diatypwsh.

KARASABBA: Parakalw, na katagrafei ayto.

AQANASAKHS: Ean yparxei kati sygkekrimeno, ka Karasabba, na to epishmanete. Dioti kamia fora h apomagnhtofwnhsh jekina apo thn Yphresia apo toys synadelfoys poy apomagnhtofwnoyn to mprifingk, erxetai epanw se mena kai prospaqw, toylaxiston, na einai apolytws pisth. Ean yparxei kati sygkekrimeno ...

KARASABBA: Ma, den einai, kyrie Aqanasakh, h prwth fora poy ginetai ayto ...

AQANASAKHS: Sas parakalw. Na sas apanthsw. Ean yparxei kati opoy exei ginei laqos kai den apodoqhke kati swsta parakalw na moy to epishmanete sygkekrimena kai na diorqwsoyme to sxetiko keimeno poy menei sto arxeio mas kai poy einai sth diaqesh twn dhmosiografwn.

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