Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-03-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13.3.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON GENIKO GRAMMATEA TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS NIKO AQANASAKH

Geia sas.

Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Diaskechs, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parameinei, shmera, opws gnwrizete, sto Londino idiwtika kai qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Praga, ayrio to apogeyma. O Ypoyrgos Typoy paramenei, epishs, sto Londino, opoy shmera qa milhsei sth Diaskech gia thn Paidikh Thleorash poy organwnei to Eyrwpaiko Kentro Paidikhs Thleorashs, me qema "Thleorash kai paidi". Epishs qa episkefqei to BBC, opoy qa exei epafes. Thn Kyriakh, o k. Reppas qa metabei sto Mantsester, prokeimenoy na labei meros sto atypo Symboylio twn armodiwn gia ta Optikoakoystika Mesa Ypoyrgwn, poy ginetai ekei kai sth synexeia qa metabei kai aytos sthn Praga. Ayta apo thn pleyra moy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Toy k. Pagkaloy to programma;

AQANASAKHS: O k. Pagkalos symmetexei ayrio se atypo Symboylio sto Edimboyrgo.

SOYRMELIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos shmera kai ayrio exei kapoies synanthseis me paragontes h alloys sto Londino;

AQANASAKHS: Den exw kapoio sygkekrimeno programma na sas anakoinwsw.

KIAOS: Dhladh, mporei na exei kai na mhn to anakoinwnete h na mhn to jerete;

AQANASAKHS: H enhmerwsh poy exw einai oti o Prwqypoyrgos paramenei sto Londino idiwtika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Genike, h Kybernhsh qa epimeinei sthn topoqethsh toy k. Oikonomidh sto Institoyto toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, meta to xqesino apotelesma;

AQANASAKHS: To qema ayto exei lhjei. Exw kanei sxetikh dhlwsh, xqes. Eyxhqhka ston k. Oikonomidh "kalh epityxia sta kaqhkonta toy".

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla h apofash ths Boylhs den ton topoqetei . Ap'o,ti...

AQANASAKHS: Oi dioikhtikes prajeis den ekdidontai apo th Boylh, sthn periptwsh ayth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egkrinetai omws. O Proedros ths Epitrophs pairnei mia apofash poy leei "ejelegh h den ejelegh". Gi ' ayto sas rwtw. Ti qa kanei h Kybernhsh;

AQANASAKHS: H Kybernhsh hdh apo xqes exei eyxhqei kalh epityxia ston k. Oikonomidh, sta nea kaqhkonta toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton proetoimazei kai gia allh qesh, argotera;

AQANASAKHS: Ean prokycei tetoio qema, qa sas enhmerwsw.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sxetizetai h filotoyrkikh stash toy k. Sirak me ena symbolaio poy ypegrafh anamesa sth Gallia kai sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas ths Toyrkias gia polemiko yliko; Anamesa, dhladh, sthn etairia AEROSPASIAL kai thn Toyrkia;

AQANASAKHS: Jekinwntas thn apanthsh, den qa yioqethsw to xarakthrismo "filotoyrkikh stash". Diabasa thn topoqethsh toy k. Sirak. Apantw anejarthtws aytoy toy sxoliasmoy. Den exw stoixeia gia na kanw mia tetoia sysxetish opws ayth poy kanate kai malista dhmosiws apo ayto edw to bhma. Den exw bebaiws kai stoixeia gia na antikroysw mia tetoia sysxetish, ean thn kanete eseis. Einai gegonos oti orismenes fores pairnontai kapoies qeseis me krithrio stena oikonomika symferonta. Einai, epishs, gegonos oti sthn Toyrkia exoyn dhmosiopoihqei apofaseis poy katatassoyn tis diafores xwres ws pros thn protimhsh gia tis agores polemikoy ylikoy, analoga me tis qeseis poy pairnoyn oi xwres aytes. Ola ayta, omws, den qa mporoysan -pisteyoyme- na ephreasoyn thn telikh topoqethsh ths Gallias, otan qa erqoyn ta erwthmata kai h wra lhchs twn apofasewn, ths Gallias poy einai mia megalh eyrwpaikh xwra, h opoia exei kai paradosh sthn thrhsh kai thn prowqhsh sygkekrimenwn arxwn kai qelei na prwtostathsei shmera gia thn prowqhsh aytwn twn arxwn se oloklhro ton eyrwpaiko xwro kai ton kosmo. Qa htan ejw apo kaqe logikh na qewrhsoyme oti oi qeseis ths Gallias, mias megalhs eyrwpaikhs xwras, diamorfwnontai me ajona to "o pelaths exei panta dikio".

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Genike, mporeite na mas sxoliasete thn apofash ths Dikaiosynhs na epembei sto ergo ths DEH sth Flwrina;

AQANASAKHS: Yparxei mia entolh, mia paraggelia toy Proistamenoy ths Eisaggelias Prwtodikwn Aqhnas gia th dienergeia mias prokatarktikhs ejetashs, me aformh ta dhmosieymata. Etsi den einai;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai.

AQANASAKHS: Me aformh ta dhmosieymata. Ara, prwtogenws, qa eprepe kaneis na anatrejei sta dhmosieymata, ypoqetw, ean qa hqele na brei thn afethria ths kinhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi mono ta dhmosieymata, alla kai tis kataggelies twn boyleytwn sth Boylh.

AQANASAKHS: Den sxoliazw genikws, alla...

MIXAHL: Symplhrwmatika: H prokatarktikh ejetash toy Eisaggelea anaferetai se dhmosieymata af' enos, alla kai se dhlwseis entos ths Boylhs, boyleytwn twn kommatwn.

AQANASAKHS: En pash periptwsei, egw den exw -opws gnwrizete- th dynatothta h th diaqesh apo ayto to bhma na sxoliazw kinhseis dikastwn h dikastikes diadikasies. Ayto poy mporw na ypenqymisw einai ayto poy exw epanalabei kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres, oti h diadikasia kai h apofash gia to ergostasio ths DEH sth Flwrina, einai mia omofwnh apofash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ean qewrei opoiosdhpote oti xreiazetai ereyna, to mono poy qa mporoysa na pw einai oti oles aytes oi diadikasies, efoson krinetai skopimo na kinhqoyn, qa prepei na oloklhrwnontai to taxytero dynaton gia na mh "sernetai" to qema kai na dinetai h dynatothta gia diafora sxolia, poy einai tis perissoteres fores an oxi panta, ektos pragmatikothtas. Ayth einai h qesh thn opoia diatypwnw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, kyrie Genike, "ektos pragmatikothtas"; Yparxei...

AQANASAKHS: Otan, kyrie Stamatopoyle, ena radiofwno leei apo to prwi oti "kaleitai se apologia h Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs", otan gnwrizoyme oti ayto den ginetai, oti kai typika den mporei na ginei me bash tis diadikasies poy yparxoyn, dhmioyrgeitai ena klima ektos pragmatikothtas. Mporoyme na dhmioyrgoyme klima me otidhpote metadidoyme h leme, alla na kinoymaste entos ths pragmatikothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, h entolh poy doqhke gia ejetash ths ypoqeshs, den perilambanei kai thn Ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs;

AQANASAKHS: Allo einai ayto poy lete eseis kai allo einai ayto poy lew egw. Kai en pash periptwsei, h diadikasia gia th Flwrina htan apolytws diafanhs kai pollaplws elegmenh. Ayto qa einai to apotelesma, opws kai an ereynhqei. Kai profanws to ergo qa proxwrhsei kanonika. To lew gia trith kata seira hmera. Tipote apo ayta den qa stamathsei thn ektelesh toy ergoy, to opoio kai h akritikh perioxh ths Flwrinas to exei anagkh kai ta symferonta ths eqnikhs oikonomias qa ejyphrethsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws prokatalambanete th Dikaiosynh; Dhladh jerete to apotelesma poy qa bgalei h Dikaiosynh; An einai...

AQANASAKHS: Sas parakalw poly, kyrie Stamatopoyle. To ti "qa bgalei" h opoia ereyna einai proion ths ereynas. Egw sas lew thn pepoiqhsh kai th qesh ths Kybernhshs. Oles oi diadikasies einai apolytws diafaneis, exoyn erqei epaneilhmmena sto Koinoboylio se ejantlhtikes syzhthseis, exoyn elegxqei apo anejarthto ektimhth, ton opoio, ek toy perissoy, orise h Kybernhsh. H teleytaia diadikasia ths syzhthshs egine xqes kai proxqes sth Boylh. Ola exoyn eipwqei gi' ayto to qema. Den yparxei tipota kryfo gi' ayto to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, einai pleonasmos h ereyna toy eisaggelea;

AQANASAKHS: Ayto einai sxolio to opoio eseis mporeite na to kanete h na mhn to kanete, analoga me thn ektimhsh poy exete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kakws, tote, o k. Koliokwstas ekane...

AQANASAKHS: De sxoliazw tis kinhseis twn Eisaggelewn ean den yparxei logos.

MIXAHL: Dhladh, eseis ektimate kaqe fora . Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, loipon, to ejhs: H Kybernhsh me poia krithria allote qa sxoliazei energeies dikastikwn Arxwn kai allote oxi;

AQANASAKHS: Den dhlwsa egw kati tetoio.

MIXAHL: Ma, eipate, twra, prohgoymenws: "otan den syntrexei logos". Poioi einai oi logoi, loipon, poy kata thn Kybernhsh, mporei na syntrexoyn, wste ...

AQANASAKHS: Den eipa egw oti anagkastika kapote qa syntrejei logos. Mporei na mh syntrejei pote logos.

MIXAHL: Tote giati den lete oti den sxoliazoyme genikws, apo qesh arxhs, kai lete "otan yparxei logos";

AQANASAKHS: Ayth einai h praktikh. Blepw oti eipa dyo lejeis apo tis opoies proekycan treis erwthseis. Yparxoyn ki alles;

FILHS: O k. Giannopoylos, den menei sthn Kybernhsh; Sxoliazei tis apofaseis.

AQANASAKHS: To eishgeiste k. Filh ypoqetw, alla thn Kybernhsh th sxhmatizei o Prwqypoyrgos.

FILHS: Oxi, rwtw an h dhlwsh sas symperilambanei kai ton k. Giannopoylo, o opoios sxoliazei dhlwseis.

AQANASAKHS: Eipa, to eishgeiste ypoqetw, parakoloyqwntas kai ta grapta sas, alla thn Kybernhsh th sxhmatizei o Prwqypoyrgos.

FILHS: Den einai dikh moy armodiothta...

AQANASAKHS: Profanws den einai kai xairomai poy to anagnwrizete.

FILHS: Syzhtw.

AQANASAKHS: An exete kai erwthsh qa dieykolynqei h syzhthsh mas kata to typiko.

FILHS: Rwthsa, an sth dhlwsh sas symperilambanetai kai o k. Giannopoylos.

AQANASAKHS: Apanthsa.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie ekproswpe, dedomenoy oti h symbash gia to ergo perase omofwna apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, to erwthma moy einai ean qa klhqoyn ola ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na perasoyn apo ton Eisaggelea, anejarthta an qa toys kalesei h oxi, na epixeirhmatologhsoyn yper ths diafaneias toy ergoy.

AQANASAKHS: Me rwtate an qa pane ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ston Eisaggelea, anejarthta an qa klhqoyn h oxi;

MOYRTZHS: Dedomenoy oti yparxei synypeyqynothta.

AQANASAKHS: To qema ayto exei lhjei me tis prohgoymenes apanthseis moy.

FILHS: Xqes kai shmera, oi synadelfoi poy yphretoyn sta Grafeia Typoy, oi Akoloyqoi Typoy, pragmatopoioyn mia dihmerh apergia. Yparxei kapoia topoqethsh, epeidh eiste kai proistamenh Arxh;

AQANASAKHS: Prwton, na shmeiwsw oti einai qetiko to oti me apofash toys ejairesan apo thn kinhtopoihsh toys to Londino kai tis diadikasies ths Diaskechs, wste na mhn exoyme problhma sth dikh mas kai th dikh sas enhmerwsh. Exei dhlwsei kai o Ypoyrgos Typoy, apo ayth qesh, oti den qewroyme pws, epi ths oysias, qa allajei kati apo th mexri twra leitoyrgia, meta thn chfish toy plaisioy toy neoy Organismoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, apo th Boylh. Se ayth th bash kineitai to Ypoyrgeio. Tyxon qemata poy akoma yparxoyn, pisteyoyme oti mporoyn na antimetwpistoyn kai na apanthqoyn, gia thn omalh leitoyrgia twn Grafeiwn Typoy kai th synergasia toys me tis Presbeies, dhladh me th leitoyrgia toys sto plaisio twn Presbeiwn, me th domh poy exoyn shmera.

FILHS: Prokeitai na analabete kapoia prwtoboylia gia na dieyqethqei kai typika h ypoyrgikh apofash poy exei lhfqei;

AQANASAKHS: Yparxoyn sxetikes synennohseis metajy twn Ypoyrgwn kai twn Ypoyrgeiwn. Eimaste se epafh me toys ypallhloys mas, gnwrizoyme to qema kai aytoi jeroyn oti exoyme ypoch mas tis parathrhseis toys kai gnwrizoyn tis qeseis mas. Blepw oti den yparxoyn alles erwthseis.

KIAOS: Exete eseis tipota allo na mas peite;

AQANASAKHS: Shmera eida ena dhmosieyma kapoy, oti o Ypoyrgos twn Eswterikwn dinei 300 dis. stoys nomarxes toy PASOK, enocei twn dhmotikwn eklogwn. Ypoqetw oti yphrje kapoy mia paranohsh, dioti profanws den prokeitai gia toys nomarxes toy PASOK! Ektos ean kapoios qewrei, oti oloi oi nomarxes poy qa eklegoyn qa einai nomarxes toy PASOK. Prokeitai gia th syzhthsh metajy twn Ypoyrgeiwn Eswterikwn kai Oikonomikwn, gia na prosdioristoyn, akribws, ta pososta apo sygkekrimenoys foroys h telh, poy diasfalismena qa didontai sthn Aytodioikhsh, oytws wste, na einai h oikonomikh aytoteleia ths dedomenh. Miloyme gia olh thn Aytodioikhsh.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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