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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 19.6.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA META TH SYNEDRIASH TOY YPOYRGIKOY SYMBOYLIOY (WRA: 17.05-

Geia sas! Xara sto koyragio sas, alla kai sto diko mas!
* Synedriase to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai asxolhqhke me qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs ths xwras. Eishghqhke to qema o k. Prwqypoyrgos kai akoloyqhse syzhthsh, h opoia epikentrwqhke sthn eishghsh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy. Anaptyxqhkan apoceis sth diarkeia aytoy toy dialogoy.
-Telikws, diapistwqhke h anagkh na synexisqei h ejwterikh politikh ths Kybernhshs, poy stoxo exei mia isxyrh Ellada, opws exoyme kat'epanalhch pei.
-Tis qeseis idiaiterws oi opoies ekfrazoyn ta ellhnika symferonta, se sxesh me tis diadikasies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, qa ekfrasei kai qa anaptyjei o k. Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs ths antiproswpeias ths Kybernhshs, apo ayrio (20.6.96) sth Flwrentia, opoy - opws gnwrizete - tis epomenes hmeres qa pragmatopoihqei h Taktikh Synodos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy.
-Qa sas dianemhqei to plhres keimeno ths eishghshs toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy sth shmerinh synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ayta apo pleyras moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KACAMPELHS: Dyo erwthseis: a)Afoy qa mas doqei to keimeno ths eishghshs toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy, mporeite na mas peite ean ayth h eishghsh egkriqhke kai an egkriqhke omofwnws;

REPPAS: Exw pei kai alles fores, kyrie Kacampelh, apantwntas se analoges erwthseis, oti h syzhthsh shmera sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, htan mia syzhthsh sto plaisio ths enhmerwshs h opoia ginetai gia diafora qemata kai ths anaptyjhs apocewn apo ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Den htan syzhthsh me stoxo na lhfqei kapoia sygkekrimenh apofash. Gi'ayto, akribws, den yphrje prosdiorismeno, ejeidikeymeno qema ths ejwterikhs mas politikhs epi toy opoioy klhqhke to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio na labei apofaseis. Yphrje mia genikh syzhthsh gia o,ti synista thn ejwterikh politikh ths xwras. Kai me bash ayth thn eishghsh, h opoia anaferetai se ola ta qemata ths ejwterikhs mas politikhs, anaptyxqhke o dialogos.

KACAMPELHS: H deyterh erwthsh moy, kyrie Ypoyrge, einai h ejhs: Tis apoceis toy kybernwntos kommatos sthn ayrianh Synodo twn Eyrwpaiwn Sosialistwn sth Flwrentia, poios qa tis diatypwsei;

REPPAS: O k. Prwqypoyrgos kai qa einai parwn o k. Tsoxatzopoylos. Exei ginei kai sto parelqon ayth h synergasia kai h paroysia twn dyo politikwn se analoges ergasies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mas eipate oti egine eishghsh apo ton k. Prwqypoyrgo kai oti sth synexeia milhsan kai alloi Ypoyrgoi. Diafwnhsan me thn politikh poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh; Yparxoyn diafwnies;

REPPAS: Den diafwnhsan alloi Ypoyrgoi sthn eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Anaptyxqhke - epanalambanw - dialogos kai ekfrasqhke problhmatismos gia diafora qemata. Ayto einai ena synhqes fainomeno otan anaptyssontai apoceis, oi apoceis aytes, asfalws, na exoyn enan ployto kai mia poikilia, h opoia dinei sthn kaqe mia thn idiaiterothta ths, ton xarakthra ths diaforetikothtas ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se poia qemata ekfrasqhke problhmatismos;

REPPAS: To qema sto opoio mporw na pw oti yphrje mia diaforopoihsh, ekfrasqhke epifylajh - problhmatismos, einai to qema ths politikhs thn opoia exei yioqethsei h proteinei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh me to kwdiko - as moy epitrapei na pw - onoma ths "bhma pros bhma proseggishs". Gi'aythn thn politikh, o Ypoyrgos Ygeias Pronoias k. Anastasios Peponhs ejefrase epifylajeis, qewrwntas pws einai mia politikh h opoia den exei ena sygkekrimeno antikrysma, xwris o idios na exei na epixeirhmatologhsei h na proteinei kati diaforetiko. Aneptyje kapoioys problhmatismoys kai ejefrase epifylajeis, krinontas ayth thn politikh protash poy exei onomasqei "protash gia mia bhma pros bhma proseggish" twn qematwn, ta opoia yparxoyn stis sxeseis mas me thn Toyrkia. Den yphrje antiprotash panw s'ayth thn protash, para tayta. Gnwrizete para poly kala oti h protash ayth ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs einai protash h opoia ypodeiknyetai pros thn allh pleyra (th geitonikh xwra, thn Toyrkia) prokeimenoy ekeinh na analabei prwtoboylia gia na antimetwpisqei etsi to qema poy me eyqynh ths Toyrkias exei prokycei kai afora tis braxonhsides ths Imias. Bebaiws, h piesh h opoia hskeito gia mia makra periodo sthn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh prokeimenoy na parakaqhsei se ena trapezi me thn Toyrkia kai na odhghqei se enan apeyqeias kai ef'olhs ths ylhs dialogo, antimetwpi- sqhke eystoxws - qewroyme - apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh me thn antiprotash ths ayth, ths bhma pros bhma proseggishs, h opoia yioqeteitai apo polles pleyres dieqnws. Me apotelesma h Toyrkia na einai ayth h opoia kaleitai na analabei prwtoboylia, prokeimenoy sto plaisio ayths ths protashs ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs na odhghsei to prwto pros proseggish qema (to qema ths Imias poy h Toyrkia prokalese) sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio.

KIAOS: Poios apanthse ston k. Peponh;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kleinei pantote me ton Prwqypoyrgo poy exei ton teleytaio logo. Kai bebaiws me tis syntomes apanthseis poy dinoyn oi armodioi gia to syzhtoymeno qema Ypoyrgoi. Ara, to kleisimo ths syzhthshs egine apo ton k. Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Pagkalo en prokeimenw, xwris na qewrhqei oti to kleisimo ayto apotelei kai mia apanthsh. Hto mia genikh topoqethsh gia th syzhthsh h opoia eixe prohghqei. Kai o k. Pagkalos - gia na erqw kai sthn oysia, sto baqos ths erwthshs sas, kyrie Kiao - eipe oti ayth h politikh thn opoia exoyme proteinei kai h opoia se teleytaia analysh - as mhn mas diafeygei - den exei labei sarka kai osta apo thn Toyrkia (den exei analabei ayth thn prwtoboylia thn opoia exoyme kalesei na analabei) einai mia realistikh politikh, h opoia exei katorqwsei na ektopisei apo to dieqnes endiaferon ton monologo ths Toyrkias gia enan ap'eyqeias dialogo me thn Ellada, alla kai tis pieseis poy askoyntan epimonws (alla kai akomh syxnotata kai apo polloys askoyntai pros thn Ellada) gia enan ap'eyqeias kai ef' olhs ths ylhs politiko dialogo me thn Toyrkia. Me ayth thn ennoia, qewroyme oti htan mia eystoxh epilogh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs.

KIAOS: Kai meta ton k. Peponh h mallon ektos apo ton k. Peponh, poios allos ejefrase epifylajeis kai se poio shmeio;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, to mono shmeio sto opoio ejefrasqh epifylajh, einai to shmeio sto opoio anaferqhka. Kai o monos o opoios epi sygkekrimenoy shmeioy ejefrase problhmatismo kai epifylajh, einai o k. Peponhs.

MIXAHL: Hqela na sas rwthsw an ayth h politikh ths Kybernhshs ths bhma pros bhma proseggishs twn sxesewn me thn Toyrkia (opoy mas eipate oti o k. Peponhs ejefrase epifylajeis) qewreitai, meta th shmerinh syzhthsh, ws - qa thn elega - dedomenh. Dhladh, yparxei periptwsh gia thn Kybernhsh, meta th shmerinh syzhthsh, na epanejetasei ptyxes h kai oloklhrh ayth thn politikh;

REPPAS: Ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs einai shmantika qemata. Antilambanesqe oti apasxoloyn monimws ta kybernhtika organa, ton Prwqypoyrgo, toys armodioys Ypoyrgoys. Kai bebaiws, qa apotelesoyn kai pali antikeimeno syzhthshs sta plaisia toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ayto, omws, to opoio prepei na epishmanoyme, einai oti h protash ayth ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, einai mia protash h opoia exei meinei metewrh me eyqynh ths Toyrkias. H opoia, mh sebomenh mia diadikasia kaq' ola nomimh, thn opoia h Ellada ypodeiknyei, adynatei na parakoloyqhsei tis leitoyrgies oi opoies diepoyn th dieqnh ennomh tajh kai paramenei se mia qesh epimonws gia enan politiko dialogo me thn Ellada. Qesh thn opoia emeis arnoymaste. Kai xairomaste na epishmanoyme oti th qesh ayth fainetai na aporriptoyn kai sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai alloy, xwres kai dynameis oi opoies mexri protinos eixan yioqethsei ayth th qesh. Th qesh dhladh ths Toyrkias.

MOYRTZHS: Telika, epeisqh o k. Peponhs apo tis ejhghseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Pagkaloy h epemene mexri teloys sth diafwnia toy; Kai an kaq'oiondhpote tropo kapoios Ypoyrgos eixe synantilhch h symmerisqhke tis apoceis toy k. Peponh en tini metrw;

REPPAS: Oydeis Ypoyrgos - ej oswn milhsan - ejefrase qesh h opoia na dhlwnei eyqygrammi- sh h taytothta apocewn me th qesh thn opoia ejefrase o k. Peponhs. Oydeis ejefrasqh me ayto ton tropo. Kai bebaiws, gia na apanthsw plhrws, stis syzhthseis aytes - gnwrizete, kyrie Moyrtzh - oti o dialogos poy anaptyssetai, den katateinei pantote sto na yparxei apolyth taytothta apocewn. Giati an syzhthsoyme stis akrotates leptomereies toys, idiaiterws, qemata ejwterikhs politikhs, logiko einai na anaptyssontai apoceis oi opoies exoyn mia apoxrwsh diaforetikh, apoklinoysa. Xwris ayto na shmainei oti yparxei kai diafwnia, oti yparxei rhjh. Oti yparxei dhladh ekeino to stoixeio to diaforopoio, to opoio mporei na odhghsei se amfisbhthsh kai yponomeysh ayths ths politikhs.

KOGIANNHS: Apesteile o Prwqypoyrgos, xqes brady h shmera, stoys omologoys toy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, epistolh gia to qema ths Gaydoy, zhtwntas toys na paroyn qesh gia to sygkekrimeno qema;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kogiannh, exei apostalei ayth h epistolh, h opoia - opws gnwrizete - exei doqei sth dhmosiothta.

KOGIANNHS: Oxi ayth h epistolh. Anaferomai se kainoyrgia epistolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros toys omologoys toy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai monon.

REPPAS; Oxi, den yparxei allh epistolh. Yparxei h epistolh h opoia sas einai gnwsth. Exei doqei sth dhmosiothta, eisqe gnwstes. Ta qemata ayta einai qemata ta opoia o k. Prwqypoyr- gos qa exei th dynatothta na ta ekqesei h na ta yperaspisqei - ean ta qesoyn alloi me opoiodhpote tropo - sta plaisia twn leitoyrgiwn twn organwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

LIARELLHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na ypobalw dyo erwthseis: a) O Prwqypoyrgos qa zhthsei apo toys etairoys mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na paroyn anoikta qesh gia to qema ths Gaydoy;

REPPAS: O k. Prwqypoyrgos exei hdh enhmerwsei gia to qema ayto toys hgetes twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Kai opws gnwrizete, sto telos ths epistolhs poy exei aposteilei, exei zhthsei na analaboyn prwtoboylies kai na aposafhnisoyn sthn qewria alla kyriws sthn prajh, poia einai h qesh toys.

LIARELLHS: Sygkekrimena, kyrie Ypoyrge, sth Synodo Koryfhs qa toys zhthsei na paroyn qesh;

REPPAS: Kyrie Liarellh, ayto kai alla qemata, ta opoia aptontai twn ellhno-toyrkikwn sxesewn (kai den einai mono to qema ths Gaydoy), einai qemata ycisths proteraiothtas gia mas. Exoyn th qesh toys. Kai me logiko kai katallhlo, kata thn krish mas, tropo qa teqoyn sta plaisia twn organwn ta opoia aytes tis hmeres qa synedriasoyn sth Flwrentia.

LIARELLHS: To deytero erwthma einai to ejhs: Eipate prohgoymenws milwntas gia ton k. Peponh th frash "den yphrje antiprotash para tayta". Qelete na ginete pio sygkekrimenos;

REPPAS: Qelw na epishmanw oti den eteqh qema na aposyrqei ayth h protash - ypodeijh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs pros thn Toyrkia kai na ypokatastaqei apo mia allh protash, h opoia qa einai pio wfelimh gia ta eqnika mas symferonta h qa einai pleon apotelesmatikh. Apla, askhqhke - epanalambanw kai pali - ena eidos kritikhs. Gi'ayto milhsa gia epifylajeis kai problhmatismoys. Den yphrje dhladh ena qema tomhs, wste se mia protash h opoia yparxei ws meros politikhs ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs (kai sas einai gnwsth ayth h protash), na antiparatiqetai mia allh sygkekrimenh kai sygkrothmenh protash, anamesa stis opoies kaleitai h Kybernhsh na epilejei.

ACAMPELHS: Hqela na rwthsw ean exete proxeira ta onomata twn Ypoyrgwn poy milhsan.

REPPAS: Den ta exw shmeiwmena kapoy, mporw omws, an moy epitrecete ligo na anasygkroth- sw tis ikanothtes ths mnhmhs moy na ta anaferw. Eishghqhke o k. Prwqypoyrgos, milhse o k. Arsenhs, o k. Pagkalos, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, h ka Basw Papandreoy, o k. Papantwnioy, o k. Peponhs, o k. Tzoymakas, o k. Giannopoylos - sthn arxh, kai parakalw ayth thn paraleich moy na thn diorqwsete dioti htan apo toys prwtoys poy milhse o k. Giannopoylos - o k. Benizelos, o k. Kastanidhs, o k. Kotsakas, h ka Papazwh. An den me adikei h mnhmh moy den exw adikhsei kai egw kapoio synadelfo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis;

REPPAS: Eimaste grammenoi arketoi na milhsoyme, apla omws eixe parelqei pleon h wra kai - jerete - mia synedriash, otan yperbainei to triwro payei na einai paragwgikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh milhse kai o k. Benizelos, o opoios eixe steilei palaiotera mia epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo kai eixe diaforopoihqei, shmera symfwnhse;

REPPAS: O k. Benizelos aneptyje apoceis, den dhlwse diaforopoihsh h problhmatismo. Aneptyje apoceis, ekane protaseis, opws allwste ekanan oloi oi synadelfoi poy elaban to logo. Oloi oi synadelfoi poy elaban to logo ekanan kati antistoixo

KANELLOPOYLOS: O Arxhgos GEEQA k. Tzoganhs poy klhqhke sth synedriash ayth akoyge mono h milhse kai aytos kai se ti aneferqh;

REPPAS: Den milhse o k. Tzoganhs. Htan parwn, parakoloyqhse thn synedriash, alla den elabe ton logo.

LIARELLHS: Giati eklhqh;

REPPAS: Epeidh syzhtoyme qemata Ejwterikhs Politikhs kai Amynas. Epeidh to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio den eprokeito na syzhthsei ena toso eidiko qema poy qa eprepe na apasxolhsei ena organo me periorismenh synqesh logw ths spoydaiothtas toy, mporoyse aythn thn synedriash na thn parakoloyqhsei kallista kai kapoios o opoios exei amesh sxesh me to antikeimeno to opoio syzhteito. Kai o Arxhgos GEEQA nomizoyme oti stis syzhthseis aytes toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy einai xrhsimo na pareyrisketai kai na exei th dynatothta na diamorfwsei mia apoch apo prwto xeri gia toys problhmatismoys poy anaptyssontai sto plaisio ths Kybernhshs kai tis leptomereies ths Ejwterikhs Politikhs thn opoia akoloyqei h Kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prwth fora eixe qeates to Ypoyrgiko.

REPPAS: Den einai h prwth fora poy parakoloyqoyn th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy stelexh ta opoia anhkoyn sto epiteleio toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai den einai melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. An ayto einai kati poy ginetai gia prwth fora, opws epishmainete k. Stamatopoyle, fantazomai oti to epishmainete pros epaino kai oxi pros cogo. Den nomizw oti einai...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw aplws rwtaw.

REPPAS: Kai egw apantw rwtwntas. Den fantazomai loipon oti h paroysia toy k. Tzoganh einai antikeimeno to opoio exei endiaferon na syzhthsoyme. Einai mia paroysia kalh, xrhsimh kai gia ton k. Tzoganh kai gia tis Enoples Dynameis.

MIXAHL: Zhthqhkan ejhghseis apo ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo gia to pws stoixeioqetei ton xarakthrismo "epikindynos" poy anefere sth synenteyjh toy gia ton k. Pagkalo;

REPPAS: Den eteqh kan tetoio qema sto plaisio toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

KACAMPELHS: Hqela na rwthsw an ajiopoihsan thn eykairia o k. Prwqypoyrgos kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos gia mia proswpo me proswpo syzhthsh.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti efoson yparxei logos gia apeyqeias syzhthsh twn dyo, oi eykairies pantote yparxoyn, alla kai otan ej' antikeimenoy den yparxoyn oi eykairies aytes, dhmioyrgoyntai me prwtoboylies twn dyo andrwn. Ara, an qeloyn na syzhthsoyn, syzhtoyn.

LIARELLHS: Na qewrhsoyme dhladh, oti h prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy na pane ayrio mazi me to idio "falkon", entassetai se ayta;

REPPAS: Exei ginei kai sto parelqon kati analogo kai o Prwqypoyrgos den exei anagkh gia to sygkekrimeno qema, na ajiopoihsei mia pthsh, k. Liarellh.

LIARELLHS: (Den akoygetai).

REPPAS: To mellon einai koino kai prepei na sas pw oti einai kai orato.

KIAOS: Gi' ayto mpainoyn sto idio aeroplano.

REPPAS: Gi' ayto mpainoyn sto idio aeroplano, nai. Giati h pthsh qa einai ychloy epipedoy pthsh kai paei thn Ellada makrya. Kai qa brikontai se koines pthseis gia polla xronia o k. Shmiths kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, an ayto sas endiaferei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Hqela na rwthsw an exoyme kati neotero gia thn sygklhsh twn politikwn Arxhgwn ypo ton Preodro ths Dhmokratias; Eixate pei oti den apokleietai kati tetoio. Hqela akomh na sas rwthsw an yphrje kapoia sxetikh bolidoskophsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata th synanthsh poy eixe me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

REPPAS: Dne yparxei tipota neotero k. Kanellopoyle. Moy dinete omws thn eykairia na sxoliasw thn aprepeia ths Neas Dhmokratias h opoia ejedwse mia anakoinwsh alla kai me dhlwseis stelexwn kai nomizw kai toy idioy toy hgeth ths, sxoliase th stash ths Kybernhshs, xwris omws h stash ths Kybernhshs na einai gnwsth, xwris na exei ekdhlwqei kapoia stash apo thn Kybernhsh. Enw dhladh htan se anamonh h antipoliteysh alla kai o Proedros ths Dhmokratias prokeimenoy sto qema poy eteqh na doqei apanthsh apo thn Kybernhsh, h Nea Dhmokratia proetreje gia na askhsei kritikh. Qewroyme pws prokeimenoy na yparjei mia epoikodomhtikh synennohsh kai syzhthsh prepei na yparxei mia kalyterh, mia aprokatalhpth diaqesh metajy twn kommatwn kai idiaiterws apo thn pleyra toy Arxhgoy ths Neas Dhmokratias, apo to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias pros to diko mas komma kai ton Prwqypoyrgo. O tropos me ton opoio askhqhke ayth h kritikh qa moy epitrecete na pw oti kaqe allo para eynoei tis proypoqeseis poy prepei na dhmioyrghqoyn wste aytos o dialogos na yparjei kai malista oxi gia ta matia toy kosmoy kai xarin entypwsewn, alla prokeimenoy na yparjei ena sygkekrimeno apotelesma gia to eqniko ofelos. Emeis pisteyoyme oti o k. Ebert, tote poy eklhqh, den antepekriqh sthn prosklhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Argotera enw eixe th dynatothta opws kai twra na syzhthsei me ton Prwqypoyrgo, episkeptomenos ton Prwqypoyr- go, den to epraje kai den to prattei. Ara, kaqe allo para symballei sthn prospaqeia dhmioyrgias enos klimatos sygklishs. Alla, bebaiws, prepei pantote na exoyne ypoch mas oti ta qemata Ejwterikhs Politikhs ta xeirizetai ypeyqyna h Kybernhsh, h de enhmerwsh h opoia parexetai sta alla kommata einai plhrestath. Idiaiterws sthn Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas opoy o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, kat' epanalhch exei labei meros stis synedriaseis ths kai exei enhmerwsei toys ekproswpoys twn allwn kommatwn.

ELENOPOYLOS: Na epanelqoyme ligo stis pthseis...!

REPPAS: Qelete ariqmoys pthsewn; (!)

ELENOPOYLOS: Epeidh exoyme diaforetikoys ariqmoys poy didontai apo...

REPPAS: Kyrie Elenopoyle, pisteyw oti o tropos me ton opoio problhqhke, thn teleytaia periodo, to qema ths ekloghs antiproswpwn en ocei toy Synedrioy toy PASOK - par' olo oti afora mia kommatikh diadikasia - epiballetai na ton sxoliasw. Einai enas tropos o opoios kaqe allo para mas briskei symfwnoys. Sto PASOK - kai ayto prepei na ginei safes, to zhtaw an qelete kai ws xarh enos polith pros alloys polites kai oxi ws politikos h kommatiko stelexos pros dhmosiografoys - prepei na ejetasoyme ta pragmata xwris na pagideyomaste se texnasmata h se mia ariqmologia h opoia, kaqws badizei to PASOK pros to Synedrio, apotelei megisth pagida, kata th gnwmh mas. Sto PASOK yparxoyn qeseis, yparxoyn apoceis, yparxoyn stelexh me politikh drash, yparxoyn organa, yparxei kai organwsh. Den yparxoyn "kykloi", opws den yparxoyn "trigwna" kai "tetragwna". Oyte yparxoyn "pleyres," opws den yparxoyn "meses" kai "akres". Sto PASOK eimaste oloi isoi, xwris na eimaste oloi idioi bebaiws. Kai me to eidiko politiko synaisqhmatiko kai dianohtiko fortio poy koybalaei o kaqenas, symballei sthn dhmioyrgia ka diathrhsh aytoy toy eniaioy kai megaloy PASOK kai sth nikhfora prooptikh toy. Idiaiterws pisteyoyme oti o tropos me ton opoio proseggizetai ayto to qema - kai den ejairw apo tis eyqynes gia to oti etsi problhqhke ayto to qema, kanena - einai enas tropos o opoios adikei to PASOK, adikei thn politikh kai thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Giati oxi mono apotelei aprepeia gia toys syntrofoys, ta melh toy PASOK kai thn proswpikothta toys, afoy me ayto ton tropo toys katanemei se kathgories, alla fanerwnei - qa moy epitrecete na pw - kai istorikh agnoia. Afoy proejoflei epiloges kai staseis oi opoies den prosidiazoyn pros ton gonimo xarakthra mias dhmokratikhs diadikasias san kai ayth poy akoloyqei to PASOK h prospaqei, kata ton kalytero dynato tropo, na akoloyqhsei. O Prwqypoyrgos den einai me kapoioys kai den einai apenanti se kapoioys alloys. Den einai diateqeimenos na ypodyqei o Prwqypoyrgos to rolo toy kommatarxh, to rolo toy epikefalhs mias meridas, to rolo toy poloy. O Prwqypoyrgos einai me oloys. Einai o Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras, einai ek twn pragmatwn h aixmh toy doratos sthn prospaqeia poy kanoyn oi dynameis toy PASOK gia na antimetwpisoyme ta eqnika kai koinwnika problhmata. Kai epeidh o Prwqypoyrgos einai me oloys kai sto PASOK oloi einai me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn Kybernhsh prokeimenoy h Kybernhsh ayth na epityxei sto ergo ths. Kai h epityxia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy qa exei eyqeia antanaklash sthn nikhfora poreia toy PASOK sto mellon. Kai ayto einai kati to opoio oloys mas desmeyei kai oloi to yphretoyme.

KACAMPELHS: Den qa qesei ypochfiothta dhladh o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Ton k. Prwqypoyrgo - epanalambanw kai pali kathgorhtika k. Kacampelh - den prepei na ton ermhneyete. Qa pei o idios thn wra poy ekeinos krinei oti einai h katallhlh ayto to opoio qewrei oti prepei na pei antapokrinomenos se mia epilogh xreoys poy qa kanei gia to symferon ths xwras, ths ellhnikhs koinwnias kai gia to symferon ths paratajhs. Mhn ermhneyete th stash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mhn apodidete ston Prwqypoyrgo o,tidhpote legetai h akoygetai apo opoiondhpote allo, ektos toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KACAMPELHS: Otan ta lete ola ayta, agnoeite to gegonos poioi katatassoyn se omades toys synedroys;

REPPAS: Poia einai h erwthsh sas; An agnow poioi katatassoyn; Milhsa gia eyqynes poy exoyme. Kai sthn apanthsh - sxolio poy ekana, den ejairesa apo tis eyqynes aytes kanenan. Qewrw omws oti ayto to fainomeno den antapokrinetai se mia pragmatikh katastash alla kai sthn pragmatikh diaqesh poy exoyme na proseggisoyme ta qemata toy Synedrioy me tetoio tropo wste to Synedrio mas na einai epityxhmeno. Kai ayto qeloyme oloi: Ena epityxhmeno Synedrio.
Eyxaristw poly.

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