BRIEFING 27-05-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 27.5.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

KIAOS: Giati qa ton synodeysoyn oi dyo Ypoyrgoi;

REPPAS: Epeidh yparxei h ekxwrhsh ths ektashs poy anhkei sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, qa einai parwn o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Benizelos. Kai o k. Giannopoylos qa milhsei gia to Dhmhtrh Diamantidh, me ton opoio exei koinoys agwnes.

* Ayrio to prwi, stis 9.45', o Prwqypoyrgos qa ypodexqei sto aerodromio ton Oyggro Proedro k. Gkons.
* Stis 12.00 to meshmeri, qa dexqei to Proedreio ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados. Qa exoyn thn prwth toys synergasia meta thn eklogh toy neoy Proedreioy.
* To meshmeri, stis 13.30' peripoy, qa dexqei sto Megaro Majimoy ton Oyggro Proedro kai eyqys amesws qa toy paraqesei geyma.

* Jekinhse apo xqes kai synexizetai, shmera, h syzhthsh sto Synedrio poy organwnei h KAQHMERINH, to MEGA kai to ELIAMEP gia th synafeia kai th sxesh poy exei h ejwterikh politikh me ta Mesa Enhmerwshs. Kai, kaqws blepw, polloi apo toys synadelfoys sas apoysiazoyn shmera. Qewrw oti qa briskontai ekei. Einai mia poly emdiav]qousa syzhthsh, ena poly endiaferon Synedrio. Ayta apo pleyras moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exoyme dhlwseis apo pleyras Toyrkias. O k. Gkionesai eipe na pame prwtoi sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio. Apo thn allh, exoyme ton Tsetin o opoios leei gia syzhthsh, synomilies ef'olhs ths ylhs, anoikto dialogo. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti h plhqwra dhlwsewn apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias, isws exei stoxo to akroathrio ths Toyrkias sto eswteriko ths xwras. Einai gnwsth h astaqeia h politikh h opoia yparxei sth geitonikh xwra. H reystothta ayth pisteyoyme oti den einai ikanopoihtikh gia thn Toyrkia, alla kai gia tis sxeseis ths Toyrkias me thn Ellada. Oi dhlwseis aytes - qeloyme na pisteyoyme - oti einai dhlwseis, oi opoies apoteloyn synepeies h parenergeies ths astaqeias ths eswterikhs poy yparxei sth geitonikh xwra. Pantws, se oles aytes tis dhlwseis epanalambanetai, me kapoies mikres diaforopoihseis kai apoxrwseis, h gnwsth politikh thn opoia ekfrazei h Toyrkia. Mia politikh h opoia, oxi mono den bohqaei sto na yparjei ena klima synennohshs h na dhmioyrghqei mia nea diaqesh gia proseggish twn dyo xwrwn, alla antiqeta synteinei sto na synthreitai h krish kai h entash. Kai apomakrynei tis opoies epiqymies - an qelete - exoyn ekfrasqei na yparjei sygklish metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Aytes oi dhlwseis qewroyme oti dynamitizoyn - isws sth gennhsh ths, kiolas - kaqe prospaqeia gia proseggish twn dyo xwrwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxei ena neo dedomeno, omws, se aytes tis dhlwseis, ena kainoyrgio dedomeno, to opoio leei na pame prwtoi, na prosfygei prwth h Ellada sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs.

REPPAS: H ejwterikh mas politikh einai gnwsth. Thn exoyme diatypwsei me akribeia kai safhneia. Qewroyme oti oi dhlwseis twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn einai dhlwseis oi opoies den epitrepoyn - ayto lew twra - aisiodojia gia dynatothta proseggishs metajy twn dyo xwrwn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ayta poy lete exoyn kammia sxesh me thn plhroforia oti qa anablhqei h synanthsh toy k. Pagkaloy me ton Toyrko omologo toy;

REPPAS: Etsi ki alliws, qa breqoyn kai oi dyo sto Berolino, sto plaisio twn ergasiwn toy NATO. H synanthsh ayth qa ginei. Asfalws, omws, to periexomeno, h diarkeia, h oysia ths, einai apolyta synhfasmenh me o,ti qa exei prohghqei mexri tote. H synanthsh ayth, allwste, qa einai kai to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs poy qa exoyn ayrio yphresiakoi paragontes twn dyo xwrwn.

KIAOS: Yparxoyn dhmosieymata ta opoia miloyn gia diastash apocewn metajy toy Yfypoyrgoy kai toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn. Ti lete ep'aytoy;

REPPAS: H oikonomikh politikh askeitai sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo. Prepei na poyme eidikws gia th forologikh politikh, oti den yparxoyn periqwria allagwn. Den einai ayto stis epidiwjeis ths Kybernhshs. Oi mones allages, qa aforoyn thn katarghsh kapoiwn foroapallagwn, qema to opoio - opws gnwrizete - meleta h Kybernhsh. Apo ekei kai pera, o forologikos nomos paramenei o idios, giati ayto akribws antapokrinetai kai sth diakhryjh ths Kybernhshs mas, oti prepei na yparxei ena staqero forologiko periballon kai mia staqerh politikh. Ayth einai h politikh, thn opoia h Kybernhsh akoloyqei.

KIAOS: Den anaferomai genikotera sthn oikonomikh kai th forologikh politikh. Anaferomai sto gegonos oti o Yfypoyrgos ejefrase diaforetikes apoceis apo ton Ypoyrgo.

REPPAS: Ejefrase tis apoceis toy o Yfypoyrgos. Einai gnwstes oi apoceis tis opoies ejefrase. Tis exoyme oloi ypoch mas. H oikonomikh politikh gia to sygkekrimeno qema, h forologikh politikh ths Kybernhshs paramenei h idia. Einai gnwsth.

BAREMENOS: Kapoioys apo toys dyo qelei allagh ths forologikhs politikhs;

REPPAS: Yparxoyn, isws, kapoies epimeroys diafores ws pros thn akoloyqhtea politikh. H politikh omws telikws h opoia qa akoloyqhqei einai ayth h opoia - epanalambanw kai pali - problepei, opws allwste exoyme diakhryjei, th diathrhsh enos forologikoy periballontos, dedomenoy kai safoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia th synanthsh twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn Ellados kai Toyrkias, o prwhn Ypoyrgos k. Papoylias dhlwse oti den xreiazetai ayth h synanthsh kai oti einai laqos na ginei mia tetoia synanthsh. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Kanena sxolio. Einai h apoch toy k. Papoylia. O k. Papoylias exei diatelesei Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Exei tis apoceis toy.

KACAMPELHS: Na gyrisoyme sto prohgoymeno, k. Ypoyrge. Entajei ta ths politikhs kai ta periqwria poy yparxoyn h den yparxoyn. Ayta einai politika qemata. Alla otan erxetai h Dikaiosynh kai krinei, opws krinei, kapoia zhthmata, to kratos, h politeia den prepei na ta labei ypoch ths; Prepei na talaipwroyntai oi polites;

REPPAS: H politeia ta lambanei ypoch ths, opws oloi prepei na laboyme ypoch mas oti yparxei swreia apofasewn h opoia briskei apolyta syntagmatikh thn politikh poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh sto sygkekrimeno qema, twn antikeimenikwn krithriwn.

MARDAS: Sto prohgoymeno qema, qa hqela mia dieykrinish: An h Toyrkia mas zhthsei na pame sth Xagh, oxi mono gia ta Imia, alla kai gia alles braxonhsides, h qesh ths Kybernhshs poia einai;

REPPAS: Kyrie Marda, h qesh ths Kybernhshs einai gnwsth. Einai mia politikh gia mia bhma pros bhma proseggish Ellados - Toyrkias. To prwto bhma, se ayto to plaisio, den einai allo para h analhch prwtoboylias apo thn Toyrkia na agagei to qema to sygkekrimeno, sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, prokeimenoy na yparjei apanthsh.

MARDAS: Kati allo. Ton Ioynio jekinaei h Toyrkia aeronaytikes askhseis sto Aigaio. Exei enhmerwqei h Kybernhsh me bash th symfwnia ths Boyliagmenhs toy '88;

REPPAS: H symfwnia ths Boyliagmenhs toy '88, to prwtokollo h mnhmonio Gilmaz - Papoylia, opws einai kai alliws gnwsto, einai mia bash - to exoyme pei epaneilhmmena emeis - gia na yparjei synennohsh proseggishs twn dyo xwrwn. Ayto den exei thrhqei me eyqynh ths Toyrkias. Einai ws na mhn yfistatai. Toylaxiston ayto h Toyrkia sthn prajh exei deijei. Emeis parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis sthn perioxh kai lambanoyme ta metra wste o,tidhpote afora blabh dikwn mas symferontwn na to antimetwpizoyme apotelesmatika.

MARDAS: H Kybernhsh apodexetai ola ta arqra ayths ths symfwnias;

REPPAS: Eipa oti to mnhmonio toy '88 einai mia kalh bash.

MARDAS: Yparxei mia diatajh poy leei oti prepei na apofeygontai parabiaseis stis eqnikes giortes...

REPPAS: Alla ayto ek twn pragmatwn den isxysei k. Marda, giati h stash ths Toyrkias exei deijei pws den symmerizetai thn ajia poy exei ayto to mnhmonio. Emeis yposthrizoyme oti ayto to mnhmonio exei ajia.

KWNSTANTHS: Exei prosdiorisqei h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Den exei prosdiorisqei.

KIAOS: Kati allo: An eisqe plhroforhmenos, ws armodios Ypoyrgos sta qemata Typoy, oti to Sabbato to brady, sth Larisa katestrafh apo agnwstoys "bandaloys", h protomh toy Bidalh, palioy gnwstoy dhmosiografoy sta dyskola xronia...

REPPAS: Aytes einai energeies poy oloi apodokimazoyme. Elpizoyme oti oi arxes oi opoies exoyn epilhfqei toy sybmantos, qa odhghqoyn se sygkekrimena apotelesmata, wste na apodoqoyn eyqynes ekei poy yparxoyn.

MOYRTZHS: H efeths ka Elissabet Brywnh milhse apajiwtika gia to Koinoboylio kai eipe sygkekrimena oti "opws leitoyrgei to Koinoboyleytiko mas politeyma, to Koinoboylio epace na epitelei to diko toy rolo kai etsi anagkastika o rolos aytos perierxetai sta xeria ths Dikaiosynhs". Mporeite na to sxoliasete;

REPPAS: Den exoyme logo na sxoliasoyme proswpikes apoceis. Ayto mono poy lew einai pws akribws to Koinoboyleytiko politeyma einai ekeino poy dinei dynatothta ston kaqena na leei eleyqera kai abiasta tis apoceis toy. Ayto einai hdh mia shmantikh katakthsh. Kai to koinoboyleytiko politeyma sthrizetai sthn empistosynh toy idioy to laoy mas, apo ton opoio lao oi politikoi antloyn kata kairoys thn ejoysia. Einai oi monoi, oi politikoi, oi opoioi exoyn ayth thn prwtogenh ayqentikh sxesh me ton ellhniko lao, ton opoio ekproswpoyn. Exoyn mia idiothta, h opoia einai monadikh kai oydeis allos mporei na ypokatasthsei to rolo toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ypegrafh h tropologia gia to aggelioshmo;

REPPAS: Einai ston k. Papadopoylo. Qa exoyme shmera synergasia gi' ayto to qema, poy sas afora toso poly.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qelete na sxoliasete ta apotelesmata twn kypriakwn eklogwn;

REPPAS: Ayto to opoio mporw na pw einai oti oi synqhkes katw apo tis opoies eginan oi ekloges deixnoyn to ychlo epipedo sto opoio brisketai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia
Sas eyxaristw poly.

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