BRIEFING 04-04-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 4.4.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA META TIS SYNEDRIASEIS THS KYBERNHTIKHS EPITROPHS KAI TOY YPOYRGIKOY SYMBOYLIOY (WRA: 16.00)

POLITHS: Allages epi twn eishghsewn toy k. Benizeloy yphrjan;

REPPAS: Oi apofaseis htan omofwnes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto nomosxedio gia thn poinikh eyqynh twn Ypoyrgwn poy mas eipate, exei ginei syzhthsh me ta alla kommata gi'ayto to nomosxedio;

REPPAS: Exei ginei syzhthsh kai me ta alla kommata. Yparxoyn protaseis kai twn allwn kommatwn, kyrie Stamatopoyle kai exoyn ajiologhqei. Ejalloy qa yparjei dialogos sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, opoy qa ekteqoyn oi apoceis kai qa lhfqoyn oi telikes apofaseis, wste na yparjei nomos toy Kratoys me to sygkekrimeno antikeimeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw anaferomai se dialogo prin, oxi sthn armodia Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph.

REPPAS: Yparxei dialogos, kyrie Stamatopoyle, o opoios ginetai metajy twn allwn kai sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, h opoia asxoleitai me thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.
*** Epishs, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph h opoia synedriase shmera kai asxolhqhke me to qema twn kazino, apofasise:
-Thn anaklhsh ths adeias toy kazino Aqhnwn.
-Thn anaklhsh ths prokhryjhs gia to kazino ths Parnhqas.
-Thn epanaprokhryjh toy diagwnismoy gia kazino sthn perioxh Attikhs ektos twn oriwn meizonos perioxhs prwteyoyshs (dhladh, ektos eklogikwn - as to pw etsi - perifereiwn A'kai B').
-H Kybernhtikh Epitroph apofasise epishs thn epanejetash twn orwn leitoyrgias twn kazino me stoxo thn prostasia toy dhmosioy symferontos.
* Prepei akomh na sas pw oti h Kybernhsh qewrei pws o problepomenos apo to sxetiko nomo ariqmos twn kazino h adeiwn gia kazino einai yperbolikos. Exei apofasisei na mh doqoyn oi adeies sto synolo toys, opws problepetai dhladh apo to nomo, o opoios exei chfisqei. Qa doqei ena meros adeiwn, ap' oses exoyn egkriqei me bash to sxetiko nomo. Giati akribws pisteyoyme oti ta kazino, ws drasthriothta, den mporei na einai moxlos anaptyjhs (apanthsa kai se sxetiko erwthma proxqes). H Kybernhsh den exei politikh kazino. Ayta apo pleyras moy. Nomizw kai logw toy proxwrhmenoy ths wras, pws prepei na mpoyme amesws sth syzhthsh mas.

KOGIANNHS: Mporeite na mas peite poies akribws adeies den qa doqoyn, ap'aytes poy problepei o nomos;

REPPAS: Exei hdh apofasisqei na mhn doqoyn oi adeies sta Iwannina, sth Doiranh kai ejetazetai akomh to endexomeno na mh doqoyn kai alles adeies, oi opoies problepontai apo to sxetiko nomo.

MOYRTZHS: Opws;

REPPAS: Na mhn ypeiselqoyme se perissoteres leptomereies twra.

POLITHS: Ariqmhtika;

REPPAS: Oyte ariqmhtika. Den yparxei akomh telikh apofash. H Kybernhsh qa labei tis apofaseis ths me ejoysiodothsh poy exei pleon h armodia Ypoyrgos.

POLITHS: Dhladh, h kyria Basw Papandreoy exei ejoysiodothsh gia na janaferei to qema;

REPPAS: Nai, qa to janaferei to qema. Qa parei kapoia apofash. Ayth einai h kateyqynsh h to plaisio - an qelete - entos toy opoioy prepei na kinhqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate prohgoymenws oti epanejetazetai o rolos twn kazino.

REPPAS: Den eipa "o rolos", milhsa gia toys "oroys leitoyrgias twn kazino".

STAMATOPOYLOS: Malista. Ayto ginetai me aformh to qema poy exei prokycei me to kazino toy Loytrakioy poy arneitai na katabalei ta 800.000.000 toy antitimoy toy eisithrioy;

REPPAS: Afora th leitoyrgia olwn twn kazino kai tis symbatikes ypoxrewseis poy exoyn analabei. H Kybernhsh kai h Politeia prepei na elegjoyn epimelws, an plhroyn toys oroys leitoyrgias, entos twn opoiwn prepei na leitoyrgoyn. Ayto einai aytonohto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, exei prokycei qema; Giati prosfata doqhkan oi adeies. Oi adeies doqhkan xwris na exei ejetasqei an plhroyn h oxi toys oroys leitoyrgias;

REPPAS: Ma, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai an qelete h Kybernhsh me thn paroysa synqesh ths asxoleitai twra me to qema twn kazino. Proseggizei to qema kai lambanei tis apofaseis ths.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h apofash gia tis adeies twn kazino (o ariqmos twn adeiwn k.lp.), einai apofash ths prohgoymenhs Kybernhsews toy k. Mhtsotakh h ths Kybernhsews toy k. Papandreoy;

REPPAS: H apofash einai ths Kybernhsews,h opoia exei chfisei me thn koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia sygkekrimeno nomo.

FILHS: Egw sas erwtw: Einai nomos ths Kybernhsews Papandreoy aytos;

REPPAS: Einai nomos kai ths Kybernhsews toy PASOK.

FILHS: Malista. Otan, loipon, dhlwnete oti h Kybernhsh den exei politikh kazino kai gi'ayto den qa doqoyn oles oi adeies, ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Ennooyme pws h Kybernhsh shmera epanejetazontas to qema krinei pws einai yperbolikos o ariqmos twn adeiwn poy eixan egkriqei, basei toy nomoy poy exei chfisqei.

FILHS: Kai poses hsan aytes oi adeies;

REPPAS: To eipa sthn arxh.

FILHS: Poses akribws;

REPPAS: Den enqymoymai poses hsan akribws.

FILHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eseis genikeyete kai lete oti "den qa doqoyn oles oi adeies, h Kybernhsh den exei politikh kazino". Ayto einai aixmh kata ths Kybernhsews Papandreoy.

REPPAS: Oxi, einai ena sxolio to opoio kanw epiprosqetws kai to opoio parakoloyqei - an qelete - thn apanthsh thn opoia edwsa se sxetiko erwthma proxqes. Den enqymoymai ean hsastan parwn, kyrie Filh, alla eteqh proxqes analogo erwthma kai edwsa apanthsh.

FILHS: H meiwsh twn adeiwn den eixe prokycei ws qema. Shmera prokyptei. Kai mia deyterh erwthsh (epeidh den gnwrizoyme to sxetiko reportaz kai gi'ayto sas talaipwroyme...).

REPPAS: Den me talaipwreite! Xara moy einai!

FILHS: H anaklhsh ths adeias toy kazino Aqhnwn qa exei kapoies xrhmatikes synepeies gia to Dhmosio;

REPPAS: H periptwsh toy kazino Aqhnwn ejetasqhke ap'oles tis pleyres, nomikes bebaiws. Giati - opws eipa kai sthn prohgoymenh syzhthsh poy eixame gia to qema - to Dhmosio exei analabei me symbaseis poy exoyn ypografei, kapoies ypoxrewseis. Qewroyme pws h kalyterh lysh poy diasfalizei to dhmosio symferon einai na proxwrhsoyme sthn anaklhsh ths adeias poy exei doqei, giati yparxoyn paratypies h parabiash - an qelete - twn orwn apo thn pleyra ths etairias poy eixe labei thn adeia kazino. Pragma to opoio shmainei oti kanei thn apofash ths Kybernhshs apofash h opoia den qa exei dysmeneis synepeies gia to dhmosio symferon. Ayth einai h apofash thn opoia elabe h Kybernhsh.

FILHS: Qa yparjei apozhmiwsh gia thn anaklhsh ths adeias toy kazino Aqhnwn;

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena qema to opoio qa ejetasqei sth synexeia. Qewroyme, kyrie Filh - epanalambanw kai pali - oti h apofash poy phrame, einai apofash h opoia diasfalizei to dhmosio symferon. Einai h kalyterh lysh poy mporoyse na yparjei apenanti sto problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei.

POLITHS: Yphrjan diafwnies ep'aytoy toy qematos;

REPPAS: Ma, giati toso megalh "kazinologia"; (!) Oi apofaseis hsan omofwnes, kyrie Polith.

MPOYATAR: H epanaprokhryjh toy diagwnismoy gia kazino sthn perioxh Attikhs ektos oriwn meizonos perioxhs prwteyoyshs pote qa ginei, kyrie Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Qa ginei thn epomenh periodo. Den yparxei sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia, giati prepei na lhfqoyn apofaseis, afoy melethsoyme kapoies parametroys. Den yparxei apofash gia to pote akribws qa ginei ayth h nea prokhryjh.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete hdh apokhryjei thn politikh Libanoy kai kat'epektasin thn politikh toy Andrea Papandreoy sto qema twn kazino.

REPPAS: Eseis taytizete dhladh ton k. Libano me ton k. Papandreoy. Giati bgazete ayta ta symperasmata; Giati, an den apanthsw ep'aytwn, an den ta sxoliasw dhladh, kyrie Moyrtzh, einai san na symfwnw mazi sas. Egw den mporw na ta parakoloyqw ayta poy lete siwphrws, opws katalabainete.

MOYRTZHS: Parakalw, na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh moy: O Ypoyrgos PEXWDE k. Laliwths synainese gia to kazino toy Floisboy sth xrhsh ghs. O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Arsenhs synainese sth xrhsh ghs pali, giati yphrxe to qema ths idiokthsias me to dhmo, an den kanw laqos. Oloi symfwnoysan me ton k. Libano. Kai erxosaste eseis, ystera apo kapoio xroniko diasthma kai lete - as poyme - "sbhnoyme ayth thn adeia". Ti symbainei;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh asxolhqhke pali me to qema. Apanthsa hdh, kyrie Moyrtzh. Kai qewrei oti h apofash sthn opoia exei katalhjei, einai h kalyterh dynath, h opoia diasfalizei to dhmosio symferon.

MOYRTZHS: Giati o k. Laliwths tote eixe synainesei sth xrhsh ghs;

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw shmera oti h apofash poy elhfqh htan omofwnh apofash.

ELENOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh: Eipate oti qa epanaprokhryxqei diagwnismos gia adeia kazino sthn perioxh Attikhs ektos oriwn meizonos perioxhs prwteyoyshs, ektos eklogikwn perifereiwn Aqhnwn A' kai B', opws eipate xarakthristika.

REPPAS: Malista.

ELENOPOYLOS: Aytos, loipon, o diagwnismos qa einai gia ena kazino;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati poy epishs qa proteinei h kyria Papandreoy kai exei kateyqynsh na labei apofaseis.

ELENOPOYLOS: Den exei apofasisqei oristika dhladh...;

REPPAS: Etsi akribws.

POLITHS: Kai poia einai h kateyqynsh; Gia ena kazino;

REPPAS: Kyrioi, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti opoia apofash lhfqei, prepei na lhfqei se synarthsh me ypoxrewseis poy exei analabei to Dhmosio. Gnwrizete poly kala, oti to kazino Loytrakioy elabe thn adeia kai leitoyrgei me dedomeno oti h Kybernhsh eprokeito na proxwrhsei sthn paraxwrhsh dyo adeiwn gia thn perioxh meizonos prwteyoyshs (gia thn perioxh Attikhs). Antilambanesqe pws einai enas apo toys paragontes poy prepei na ejetasqei prokeimenoy na lhfqei h telikh apofash gia ton ariqmo twn adeiwn poy qa doqoyn gia thn perioxh ths Attikhs. Doqentos oti to kazino toy Loytrakioy elabe adeia wste na leitoyrgei me dyo antagwnistikes epixeirhseis paromoias drasthriothtas sthn perioxh ths Attikhs. Ayto einai ena stoixeio to opoio den prepei na agnohsoyme. Apo thn allh bebaiws, efoson proxwrhsoyme sthn prokhryjh gia mia adeia sthn perioxh ths Attikhs, katalabainete pws prepei - epeidh akribws den qa yparxei allh antagwnistikh drasthriothta sthn perioxh ths Attikhs - ta antistaqmistika ta opoia qa epidiwxqei na ejasfalisqoyn, na einai poly megalytera apo ta antistaqmistika ta opoia eixan ejasfalisqei, epeidh akribws oi adeies hsan dyo gia leitoyrgia kazino sthn perioxh ths Attikhs. Ayta einai qemata ta opoia apasxolhsan ta kybernhtika organa kai qa lhfqoyn oi apofaseis me synypologismo olwn aytwn twn parametrwn.

ELENOPOYLOS: Kateyqynsh edoqh, para tayta; Dhladh an qa htan protimotero na pane gia ena kazino h to blepoyme;

REPPAS: Ayto xreiazetai peraiterw meleth, prokeimenoy na lhfqei h apofash gia thn prokhryjh neoy diagwnismoy.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, lete pws h Kybernhsh den exei politikh kazino, alla poly foboymai pws me ayta ta antistaqmistika h Kybernhsh kanei tzogo me to qema. Ena einai ayto.

REPPAS: Poio einai to erwthma poy qetete; An kanei tzogo h Kybernhsh dinontas adeies gia kazino;

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Ayto einai ena symperasma ap'osa mas eipate prohgoymenws.

REPPAS: An qelete na syzhthsoyme genikws, na syzhthsoyme. Alla an qelete na syzhthsoyme gia na yparjei enhmerwsh, na ypoballete sygkekrimenes erwthseis gia na pairnete sygkekrimenes apanthseis. To exoyme pei para polles fores ayto.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Ayto poy qelw na rwthsw, kyrie Ypoyrge - einai synexeia aytoy poy exete pei - einai giati h Kybernhsh krinei oti mia adeia poy eixe doqei (ayth gia to kazino Attikhs) telika krinetai aneparkhs h den jerw ti, janadidetai omws mia adeia sthn Attikh enw katargoyntai adeies gia thn ypoloiph xwra. Giati janadialegei thn Attikh; Enw yphrxe, eixe doqei adeia, anakaleitai kalws h kakws kai janadidetai pali sthn Attikh kai taytoxrona katargoyntai kapoies alles adeies poy aforoysan thn ypoloiph xwra;

REPPAS: Yphrxe h prokhryjh enos diagwnismoy, kyrie Zerbonikolakh - ayto to parablepete- poy aforoyse to kazino ths Parnhqas, to opoio hdh leitoyrgei. Ara, loipon, etsi ki alliws yparxei ena kazino sthn perioxh ths Attikhs, sthn eyryterh perioxh ths prwteyoysas. Pisteyw, loipon, oti h Kybernhsh ayto to synektima kai qewrei pws an prokhryxqei diagwnismos gia mia adeia, ayth h adeia asfalws qa afora to kazino ths Parnhqas. An proxwrhsei se prokhryjh gia perissoteres ths mias adeies, gia dyo adeies, asfalws h mia ap'aytes qa afora kai to kazino ths Parnhqas. Qa exoyme dhladh kai pali thn epanalhch ths prohgoymenhs epiloghs me kainoyrgio stoixeio twra, thn epidiwjh na yparjoyn kalyteroi oroi gia to Dhmosio, alla kai oroi yper ths diafaneias poy toso exoyn anagkh o topos kai o dhmosios bios.

MAYROS: Den gnwrizw an anaferqhke, alla to PORTO KARRAS exei kataggelqei oti den exei thrhsei kammia apo tis ypoxrewseis poy exei analabei.

REPPAS: Kyrie Mayro, den egine eidikoterh anafora se ena sygkekrimeno kazino, alla apofasisqhke pws prepei to kratos me tis yphresies toy na ejetasei systhmatika toys oroys basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgoyn kai th synepeia h thn asynepeia -an qelete- poy exoyn epideijei oi epixeirhseis aytes pros toys oroys basei twn opoiwn ypegracan tis symbaseis toys me to ellhniko kratos.

ELENOPOYLOS: Otan kanete logo gia parabiash twn orwn h gia paratypies poy eginan ek meroys twn anadoxwn, ti akribws ennoeite;

REPPAS: Kyrie Elenopoyle, leptomeresteres anakoinwseis exete apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio. Alla, ejetasqhkan polles periptwseis h polla stoixeia ta opoia elhfqhsan sobarws ypoch prokeimenoy na yparjei ayth h apofash apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Ayta einai ta stoixeia poy ayth thn wra mporoyme na anakoinwsoyme.

FILHS: Ena apo ta nomosxedia poy eishghqhke o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs k. Benizelos, to trito kata seira sthn anakoinwsh sas, qewreitai ws proypoqesh prokeimenoy h Kybernhsh na staqmisei thn telikh qesh ths ws pros thn epikyrwsh ths symfwnias Segken...

REPPAS: Den qewreitai proypoqesh. Yparxei asfalws h symfwnia thn opoia anaferate. Qewroyme oti to nomosxedio den exei sxesh me th symfwnia h opoia paramenei ekkremhs ws pros thn epikyrwsh ths apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh kai th Boylh. H Kybernhsh qa epanelqei kai qa antimetwpisei to qema.

FILHS: Den yparxei neoterh kybernhtikh qesh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei neoterh kybernhtikh qesh giati h Kybernhsh den asxolhqhke me to qema ths symfwnias Segken.

FILHS: Poia einai dhladh h kybernhtikh qesh;

REPPAS: Sas eipa kai pali oti h qesh einai ayth h opoia den exei epikyrwsei, mexri twra, th symfwnia Segken. Alla to qema ayto paramenei ekkremes, dhladh anoixto, kai h Kybernhsh qa epanelqei sto sygkekrimeno qema. Einai allwste toso logiko ayto to opoio eipa. Einai dyskolo na to katanohsete;

FILHS: Dhladh h Kybernhsh antimetwpizei to endexomeno na epikyrwsei th symfwnia.

REPPAS: Qa asxolhqei kai, an asxolhqei me ayto to qema, logiko einai na antimetwpisei to endexomeno poy anaferete, na allajei dhladh thn apofash h opoia yparxei twra. An qewrei ek twn proterwn dedomeno oti den prokeitai na thn allajei, den yparxei logos na asxolhqei. Alla to endiaferon ths Kybernhshs gia th symfwnia Segken einai ayto poy thn kaqodhgei na asxolhqei, sto epomeno diasthma, kai me ayto to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, afora kai ton Typo ayto to nomosxedio;

REPPAS: Den exei diatajeis gia ton Typo. Afora thn prostasia poy prepei kaqe poliths na exei apo thn epejergasia proswpikwn dedomenwn giati gnwrizete para poly kala oti h zwh mas pleon ejyphreteitai apo diadikasies oi opoies htan agnwstes ta prohgoymena xronia. Me to qema ayto xronia asxoloyntai oi Ellhnikes Kybernhseis. Hdh apo to 1983, edw kai 13 xronia, exei anaptyxqei enas dialogos. Apo thn tote Kybernhsh toy PASOK exei jekinhsei o dialogos aytos. Pisteyoyme oti einai kairos na ejasfalisoyme synqhkes kai proypoqeseis gia thn prostasia toy polith, apenanti sthn ajiopoihsh stoixeiwn poy ton aforoyn, apo dynameis h foreis poy kakh th pisth mporoyn na ta xrhsimopoihsoyn se baros toy polith.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia ton Typo den problepetai tipota;

REPPAS: Gia ton Typo den problepetai tipota.

PAPAKWNSTANTINOY: Yparxoyn dhmosieymata poy feroyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na problhmatize- tai apo thn antiparaqesh toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Yparxei tetoios problhmatismos sto prwqypoyrgiko periballon;

REPPAS: Emeis den qewroyme oti yparxei antiparaqesh etsi opws eseis ws dedomeno thn anaferete sthn erwthsh sas. Kata synepeia den yparxei tetoios problhmatismos. Oi Ypoyrgoi ekqetoyn tis apoceis toys. Alla, ean eseis qewreite oti h diaforopoihsh ayth einai tetoia kai thn pistopoieite, mporeite na moy anaferete se poio shmeio yparxei ayth h diaforopoihsh;

PAPAKWNSTANTINOY: Apo thn apanthsh poy dwsate prokyptei diaforopoihsh.

REPPAS: Afoy den yparxei diaforopoihsh einai dynaton na yparxei antiparaqesh; H antiparaqesh emperiexei th diaforopoihsh. H diaforopoihsh den shmainei pantote antiparaqe- sh.

FILHS: Otan enas Ypoyrgos, o k. Benizelos, me eysxhmo tropo ypodeiknyei ston Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn na askei politikh me bash thn kybernhtikh politikh, ayto einai komco kata th gnwmh sas; Synista synantilhch gia to kybernhtiko ergo;

REPPAS: Einai gnwsto oti kaqe Ypoyrgos askei tis armodiothtes toy sto plaisio ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Den askei proswpikh politikh. Kai prepei na sas pw, me thn eykairia poy moy dinete - kai na kanw mia epishmansh gia to pws dhlwseis h qeseis xrhsimopoioyntai h proballontai apo ta Mesa Enhmerwshs - to ejhs: O k. Benizelos apanthse se dyo sxetikes erwthseis. H prwth apanthsh toy den problhqhke se kanena meso. Problhqhke mono h deyterh apanthsh. Kai malista h perikoph ths apanthshs ayths h opoia anaferetai sto stoixeio to opoio kai eseis kata thn erwthsh sas, qesate. Sthn prwth apanthsh toy o k. Benizelos leei: "H ejwterikh politikh ths Kybernhshs einai eniaia kai staqerh ... H ejwterikh politikh exei egkriqei apo ton ellhniko lao... kai ap'ayth den exei apoklinei kaqoloy h Kybernhsh". Ayto poyqena den problhqhke. H dhlwsh toy k. Benizeloy oti "h Kybernhsh den exei apoklinei poyqena sthn ejwterikh ths politikh", den problhqhke se kanena meso. Problhqhke, loipon, h perikoph ths apanthshs toy poy leei oti gia thn efarmogh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs einai kapoios Ypoyrgos kai oxi gia tis proswpikes toy apoceis. Ayto einai aytonohto. Einai mia qesh arxhs. Giati qewreite oti apotelei aixmh kai malista otan amesws prin exei dwsei apanthsh se kaqe sxetiko erwthma;

FILHS: Pisteyete oti einai qesh arxhs kai h dhlwsh toy k. Pagkaloy symfwna me thn opoia "oi endoparatajiakes diafwnies, otan katafeygoyn se eqnikistikh dhmagwgia, einai akomh pio epikindynes kai apo aytes metajy twn kommatwn".

REPPAS: Asfalws h eqnikistikh dhmagwgia einai ena epikindyno fainomeno to opoio prepei na mas briskei antiqetoys. Asfalws einai qesh arxhs oti h eqnikistikh dhmagwgia einai epikindyno fainomeno.

FILHS: "Oi endoparatajiakes diafwnies", leei o k. Pagkalos.

REPPAS: Milhse gia eqnikistikh dhmagwgia, den milhse genikws gia diaforopoihsh kai diafwnies sto eswteriko twn kommatwn.

FILHS: Eipe oti "oi endoparatajiakes diafwnies, otan katafeygoyn se eqnikistikh dhmagwgia einai pio epikindynes ...".

REPPAS: Etsi akribws: Otan katafeygoyn se eqnikistikh dhmagwgia.

MPOYATAR: Mia poy anaferqhkame shmera sth symfwnia Segken, mporeite na mas peite ti ginetai kai me to qema twn newn taytothtwn;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tipota neotero.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eiste etoimos na kataqesete thn topologia gia to aggelioshmo;

REPPAS: Yphrje apo thn pleyra toy Ypoyrgeioy kai emoy proswpikws h epideijh ths kalyterhs diaqeshs. Yphrje o xronos wste oi pleyres poy eixan deijei idiaitero endiaferon gia th ryqmish toy mhxanismoy eisprajhs kai apodoshs toy aggelioshmoy na erqoyn se mia synennohsh kai symfwnia. Ayto den egine katorqwto. Katopin toytoy, eimai ypoxrewmenos na analabw prwtoboylia wste na antimetwpisw thn ekkremothta poy yparxei dedomenoy oti kai h agora sto xwro ths diafhmishs brisketai se mia katastash aixmalwsias, h opoia den mporei na synthreitai ep'aoriston. Exw, loipon, diatypwsei mia tropologia, h opoia pisteyw oti einai sygkerasmos twn apocewn twn endiaferomenwn merwn poy ej'arxhs eixan diistamenes h kai ek diametroy kai antiqetes apoceis -opws einai kai swsto na pw- kai pisteyw oti ejyphretei ta symferonta kai twn dyo pleyrwn. Brisetai de, sto pneyma toy nomoy o opoios exei chfistei kai prepei na isxysei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei doqei kai stis dyo pleyres;

REPPAS: Ayth einai h qesh toy Ypoyrgeioy kai emoy proswpikws. Bebaiws exei doqei kai stis dyo pleyres. Pisteyw oti oi ryqmiseis einai leptomereiakes kai diasfalistikes kai twn syntaktwn bebaiws. Kai malista idiaiterws.

MAYROS: Sto nomosxedio gia to swfronistiko systhma yparxei problech symfwna me thn opoia ta adikhmata poy aforoyn stis akalyptes epitages qa diwkontai mono kat'egklish;

REPPAS: To nomosxedio afora kata kyrio logo diatajeis poy exoyn na kanoyn me to swfronistiko systhma. Oi leptomeries qa doqoyn apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo.

MAYROS: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia th nikh toy Panaqhnaikoy;

REPPAS: Eixan mazi toys to prasino xrwma to opoio apedeixqh nikhforo. Proswpika eimai EQNIKOS. Para tayta, omws, panhgyrizw. Eyxomai ston PAO katakthsh toy titloy.
Sas eyxaristw poly.