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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 3.4.1996

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

MIXAHL: H Kybernhsh sxediazei kai nees allages se Dioikhseis Trapezwn h DEKO gia to epomeno diasthma;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den sxediazei allages. Alla h Kybernhsh qa labei apofaseis gia allagh Dioikhsewn se Organismoys toy Dhmosioy, an krinei oti prepei na yparjoyn aytes oi allages.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Shmiths me ton k. Benizelo syzhthsan kai to qema ths diaforopoihshs toy k. Benizeloy se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kammia diaforopoihsh toy k. Benizeloy se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Poia einai h qesh poy exei ekfrasei o k. Benizelos, h opoia pisteyete eseis oti synista th diaforopoihsh toy;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai o k. Benizelos kai o k. Arsenhs xqes milwntas se paroysiash biblioy toy k. Shfoynakh diaforopoihqhkan sto qema toy dialogoy...

REPPAS: Qelete na eiste pio sygkekrimenos; Na diatypwsete mia erwthsh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Diaforopoihqhkan sto qema ths antimetwpishs twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn...

REPPAS: Egw sas lew oti den diaforopoihqhkan. Ayto sas ikanopoiei; Qelete na ypobalete mia erwthsh sygkekrimenh gia na dwsw mia apanthsh epishs sygkekrimenh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oles oi efhmerides lene...

KOGIANNHS: Lene oti zhthsan pio epiqetikh politikh apenanti sthn Agkyra.

REPPAS: Sas parakalw para poly, an qelete na diatypwsete mia erwthsh ...

SOYGLERHS: O k. Arsenhs eipe sygkekrimena oti o toyrkikos epektatismos den antimetwpizetai me xliares antidraseis, kathgorwntas bebaiws emmesa thn Kybernhsh Shmith oti h Ellada den exei eqnikh ejwterikh politikh. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: Einai kapoios poy exei diaforetikh qesh peri toy oti mia epiqetikh epektatikh toyrkikh politikh den prepei na antimetwpizetai me thn yparjh mias isxyrhs apotreptikhs dynamhs apo thn pleyra ths Ellados; Asfalws, kaneis. Ypenqymizw omws oti o k. Arsenhs milhse xqes sthn paroysiash biblioy poy aforoyse thn Imbro kai thn Tenedo kai akribws, ekane anafora se mia periodo, th dietia 1960-1962, opoy o jerizwmos toy Ellhnismoy sta nhsia ayta, antimetwpisqhke apo thn Ellada me prosfygh sthn UNESCO kai h antidrash ayth den edwse karpoys. Ayto o k. Arsenhs xrhsimopoihse ws bash gia na exei ena paradeigma -an qelete- xliarhs antimetwpishs ths toyrkikhs politikhs, h opoia xliarh antimetwpish ths Toyrkias den apedwse karpoys.
-Yparxei plhrhs synennohsh kai synergasia sta plaisia ths Kybernhshs. Kai nomizw oti -as moy epitrapei na pw- einai ek toy ponhroy oi opoies diaforopoihseis apodidontai, otan aytes sthn pragmatikothta den yparxoyn.
-Qa hqela na diatypwnete mia sygkekrimenh erwthsh, h opoia na anadeiknyei poio akribws einai ekeino to shmeio, to opoio synista kai th diaforopoihsh, thn diaforetikh qesh. Giati, bebaiws, an sxoliasoyme to klima to opoio anadyetai apo ta keimena twn efhmeridwn h ta sxolia twn radiothleoptikwn meswn, fantazomai oti qa eimaste ektos toy proorismoy poy exoyme edw na syzhtoyme, wste na yparjei mia enhmerwsh sas.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw epeidh xqes yphrxan kapoies dhlwseis Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn oi opoioi prwton, ermhneysan, kata ton tropo poy ermhneyei synhqws h Agkyra th symfwnia gia thn Imia kai deyteron, epekrinan entona ton k. Arsenh gia tis dhlwseis poy ekane toso se omilia toy sth Qessalonikh poy eipe oti xreiazontai eyryteres symmaxies me xwres poy exoyn kai aytes problhmata me thn Toyrkia, poia einai h antidrash ths Kybernhshs epi olwn aytwn;

REPPAS: Exoyme apanthsei. Kai h qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs sas einai gnwsth, giati einai safhs.
-Epanerxomai me thn eykairia twn dhlwsewn poy kanoyn oi Toyrkoi ajiwmatoyxoi gia na pw oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh pisteyei pws prepei na allajei to klima, klima entashs kai prostribwn poy diaperna shmera tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis.
-H Ellada me prajeis exei apodeijei oti sebetai toys kanones ekeinoys, oi opoioi prepei na apoteloyn th bash gia thn ejomalynsh twn ellhno-toyrkikwn sxesewn. Einai epilogh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs h apokatastash ths hremias sthn perioxh kai h enisxysh twn sxesewn sthn kateyqynsh ths filias kai ths synergasias me thn geitonikh xwra. Ayto, omws, qewroyme pws den einai dynaton na epiteyxqei me frastikes filofronhseis, poly perissotero otan aytes synodeyontai syxnotata apo teleiws antiqetes praktikes.
-Qewroyme pws h bash gia thn anaptyjh aytwn twn sxesewn kalhs geitonias den einai allh, para:
* O sebasmos sto Dieqnes Dikaio kai stis Dieqneis Symfwnies kai Symbaseis.
* H apofygh kai katadikh ths xrhshs bias, alla kai ths apeilhs gia xrhsh bias.
* Kai h analhch prwtoboyliwn gia thn antimetwpish kai dieyqethsh nomikwn problhmatwn apo thn pleyra ekeinh, h opoia qewrei oti yfistantai tetoia problhmata.
-Kai nomizw oti s'ayth th bash epanw mporei na ergasqei kai h Toyrkia me sygkekrimenes prajeis, wste na yphrethsei aytes tis arxes. Kai tetoies prajeis mporei na einai:
* H ypografh toy keimenoy twn 15 xwrwn - melwn ths E.E. gia thn proodo ths telwneiakhs syndeshs Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs-Toyrkias.
* Mporei na einai, epishs, h syndromh twn prospaqeiwn kai twn prwtoboyliwn poy exoyn analhfqei h prepei na analhfqoyn gia mia dikaih kai monimh lysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos sta plaisia toy OHE.
* H anaklhsh ths qeshs ths Toyrkias oti einai "CASUS BELI" h askhsh toy ellhnikoy dikaiwmatos, toy kyriarxikoy dikaiwmatos ths xwras mas, gia thn epektash ths aigialitidas zwnhs.
* Kaqws, epishs, h allagh sthn politikh, thn opoia akoloyqei h Toyrkia me tis parabiaseis toy ellhnikoy enaerioy kai qalassioy xwroy.
* Kai h me kaqe tropo apodeijh oti den trefei edafikes diekdikhseis se baros ths ellhnikhs epikrateias, opws prosfata exei apodeijei oti trefei tetoies diekdikhseis se baros ths perioxhs ths Dwdekanhsoy.
-Qewroyme, loipon, oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei kanei ola ta bhmata kai oles tis prajeis oi opoies apodeiknyoyn th diaqesh mas na ergasqoyme pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kai anamenoyme kai apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias na ginoyn ta antistoixa, ta analoga bhmata.

MIXAHL: Ola ayta einai katanohta. Ta exete epanalabei kai kala kanete kai ta epanalambane- te. To erwthma omws poy sas eqesa den htan ayto. Einai oti oi Toyrkoi epekrinan tis dhlwseis toy k. Arsenh poy eipe oti h Ellada prepei na synacei symmaxies me xwres poy exoyn analoga problhmata me thn Toyrkia. Aytes oi qeseis toy k. Arsenh einai qeseis ths Kybernhshs; Kai deyteron, ti apantate eseis epi toy sygkekrimenoy poy oi Toyrkoi kathgoroyn ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas;

REPPAS: Oi Toyrkoi kathgoroyn paragontes ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs. Kai ton k. Koyrh - paraleicate na anaferete- o opoios eipe sthn Ellhnikh Boylh oti "h Ellada askei ta dikaiwmata ths sth sygkekrimenh perioxh kai stis braxonhsides kai kaqe Ellhnas poliths mporei na tis episkeptetai". Pisteyw oti h Toyrkia exei kaqe logo apo th dikh ths pleyra na dhmioyrgei thn entypwsh oti h Ellada h oi kybernhtikoi paragontes sthn Ellada anaptyssoyn mia politikh h opoia antibainei to kalws nooymeno symferon kai twn dyo pleyrwn kai blaptei tis sxeseis poy prepei na yparxoyn anamesa stis dyo xwres.
-Emeis pisteyoyme oti aytes oi kathgories einai adikaiologhtes, einai abasimes. O k. Arsenhs den eipe tipote allo, para ayto poy apo thn prwth mera poy eteqh to erwthma kai egw diatypwsa: Oti emeis qeloyme kales sxeseis synergasias me oles tis xwres sthn perioxh kai sthn eyryterh perioxh. Ayto den prepei na kanei entypwsh.
-Ayth einai h politikh mas: Na exoyme kales sxeseis, sxeseis synergasias me oles tis xwres. Giati h Ellada epidiwkei kai exei apodeijei sthn prajh oti mporei na einai paragontas staqerothtas kai asfaleias sthn perioxh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Arsenhs eipe xqes, an epiqymoyme eirhnh qa prepei na dhmioyrghsoy- me mia isxyrh apotreptikh dynamh kai na gnwrizoyme oti mporei na xreiastei na polemhsoyme. Ayto anaferotan sto 1960-1962 ;

REPPAS: O k. Arsenhs eipe ayto poy exoyme pei kat'epanalhch kai einai h pagia kybernhtikh politikh: Oti isxyres enoples dynameis mazi me thn omocyxia toy ellhnikoy laoy kai th swsth, ypeyqynh kai syneth politikh ths Kybernhshs einai oi paragontes ekeinoi oi opoioi mporoyn na ejasfalisoyn, apotrepontas opoiadhpote epiboylh, th synexeia ths eqnikhs mas anejarthsias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati eseis eipate oti anaferqhke sto 1960-1962...

REPPAS: Otan milhse gia xliarh antidrash, milhse gia thn antidrash h opoia yphrje ekeinh thn periodo apo tis Ellhnikes Kybernhseis apenanti sthn politikh jerizwmoy toy Ellhnismoy poy akoloyqhsan oi Kybernhseis ths Toyrkias sthn Imbro kai thn Tenedo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Milaei gia twra o k. Arsenhs.

REPPAS: Ayta ta leei to keimeno.

MOYRTZHS: Ayto sas to diasafhnise o k. Arsenhs otan milhsate mazi toy h einai ektimhsh sas;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh, xqes, htan syzhthsh poy egine me thn aformh paroysiashs biblioy anaferomenoy sthn Imbro kai thn Tenedo. Kai htan ayto h eykairia gia thn ejagwgh kapoiwn symperasmatwn. Qelete na qesete kapoies erwthseis;

MOYRTZHS: Hrqate se epikoinwnia me ton k. Arsenh...

REPPAS: Me ton k. Arsenh kai alloys Ypoyrgoys eimai synexws se epikoinwnia. Giati kanei entypwsh ayto;

MOYRTZHS: Gia to qema ayto, sas to diasafhnise o idios; Milhsate shmera;

REPPAS: Milw me ton k. Arsenh arketes fores thn hmera.

KOYIN: Oi qeseis toy k. Arsenh antiproswpeyoyn plhrws tis qeseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei kat'epanalhch s'ayth thn erwthsh apo thn prwth hmera poy eteqh. H Ellada -epanalambanw kai pali- asfalws epidiwkei kai qelei sxeseis filias kai synergasias me oles tis xwres. Kai me thn Toyrkia epidiwkoyme tetoies sxeseis filias kai synergasias, alla oi sxeseis aytes edrazontai se kapoioys kanones.

GARGALAKOS: Epeidh to qema einai sobaro kai den exei lhjei. Edw exoyme dyo epistoles toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas pros ton Prwqypoyrgo. Exoyme mia diaforopoihsh poy einai prwtoselidh se mia efhmerida poy sas deixnw kai se alles deka. Loipon, yparxei bash h oxi; Kai an den yparxei bash giati den qewrhse Ypoyrgos ths Kybernhshs thn anagkh na diaceysei oti diaforopoieitai, efoson h diaforopoihsh toy apostaqeropoiei thn Kybernhsh; Mhn krybomaste pisw apo to daxtylo mas.

REPPAS: Egw kai logw ogkoy einai dyskolo na "kryftw pisw apo daxtylo", k. Gargalako! Alla qelw na moy diatypwsete mia sygkekrimenh erwthsh. Anaptyssete ena skeptiko. Peite moy sas parakalw poia einai h erwthsh; An yparxei diaforopoihsh;

GARGALAKOS: H erwthsh einai h ejhs: Ayta ta prwtoselida, o k. Arsenhs eprepe kata thn apoch sas na ta diaceysei; Eprepe na diaceysei th diaforopoihsh ayth h oxi;

REPPAS: Ma, o k. Arsenhs den qewrei oti yparxei diaforopoihsh. Kai nomizw oti shmera exei programmatisqei - isws ayth thn wra einai se ejelijh - mia syzhthsh me toys syntaktes toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, opoy qa apanthqoyn ta erwthmata ta sxetika poy qa toy teqoyn.

MOYRTZHS: Erwthqeis o k. Arsenhs - apo thn ELEYQEROTYPIA, an enqymoymai - an oi dhlwseis toy peri symmaxias me Irak, Armenia k.lp. me thn Ellada synadei me thn kybernhtikh politikh, apanthse oti "egw ektelw thn politikh toy Andrea Papandreoy". Ena sxolio ep'aytoy.

REPPAS: Ma, asfalws, h Kybernhsh sthrizetai sto PASOK kai h Kybernhsh h opoia eixe Prwqypoyrgo ton Andrea Papandreoy kai exei shmera Prwqypoyrgo ton Andrea Shmith einai Kybernhsh h opoia...

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: (Miloyn polloi mazi - den akoygontai).

REPPAS: Ti eipa;

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Andreas Shmiths; (!!!)

REPPAS: Ayto deixnei oti h ennoia ths synexeias einai poly isxyrh s'ayth thn Kybernhsh. Loipon, nomizw oti h Kybernhsh qa kriqei eniaia sto telos ths tetraetias. O k. Arsenhs eipe - an deite stis dhlwseis poy ekane kai meta apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis - oti asfalws yparxoyn kai symfwnies stratiwtikhs synergasias. Kai milame gia synergasia h opoia prepei na yparxei. Sxeseis filias kai synergasias qeloyme me oles tis xwres. Asfalws den skeftomaste na synacoyme mia amyntikh symmaxia, h opoia qa exei sygkekrimena diakratika organa, opws einai p.x. to NATO, poy exei to Geniko Grammatea toy, exei organa me orismenh diarqrwsh, exei yphresies k.lp. Den miloyme gi'ayto. Alla synergasia asfalws qeloyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh synexizetai h politikh toy Kwsta Papandreoy (!!!), etsi;

REPPAS: O Andreas Papandreoy, kyrie Stamatopoyle, prepei na sas pw oti einai poly shmantiko proswpo gia thn politikh istoria ths Elladas kai qa meinei kai ws Andreas. Den xreiazetai na anaferoyme kai to "Papandreoy" pantote.

MIXAHL: Qa ginei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Yparxei epikoinwnia kai qa ginei kai synanthsh, kyrie Mixahl. Alla - sas parakalw poly - mh qewreite oti aytes oi synanthseis prepei na apoteloyn eidhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto den apotelei eidhsh;

REPPAS: Asfalws den apotelei eidhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto afhste na to krinoyme emeis oi dhmosiografoi.

REPPAS: Qymoymai oti tis prwtes hmeres poy breqhka edw, sas ekane megalh entypwsh h synanthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me kapoioys Ypoyrgoys. Sas eipa oti ayto se ligo den qa apotelei eidhsh. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me Ypoyrgoys, me alla stelexh, syzhta, antallassei apoceis, lambanontai apofaseis. Ayto exei mpei pia sthn kaqhmerinh zwh mas. Den nomizw oti oi synanthseis kai oi epikoinwnies aytoy toy eidoys prepei na apoteloyn eidhsh kai na einai kai antikeimeno syzhthshs mas.

KOGIANNHS: Sthn kaqhmerinh zwh, tetoies synanthseis me ton k. Papandreoy;

REPPAS: Lew gia ton k. Prwqypoyrgo. An kanete thn erwthsh gia na bgalete symperasmata gia thn katastash ths ygeias toy k. Papandreoy, pisteyw oti h katastash einai arketa kalh kai epitrepei akribws to na brisketai o k. Papandreoy sto spiti toy kai na mhn einai sto nosokomeio. Ayto einai mia poly shmantikh kai apokalyptikh endeijh.

KOGIANNHS: Ayto einai apanthsh stis fhmes poy kykloforoyn gia thn katastash ths ygeias toy k. Papandreoy;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw fhmes na kykloforoyn. Den exw ypoch moy tipote.

GARGALAKOS: Oti einai arrwstos, oti exei pyreto...

REPPAS: Den to gnwrizw. An exei endiaferon, na rwthsoyme to giatro toy. Alla, elpizw na einai toso kala, wste na mh xreiazetai na einai sto nosokomeio. Na einai sto spiti toy. Ayto einai - epanalambanw kai pali - to apodeiktiko stoixeio, oti einai h katastash ths ygeias toy se ena anektws kalo epipedo.

POYLIDOY: Exw treis erwthseis: Prwton, eipate prin oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh pisteyei pws prepei na allajei to klima entashs kai prostribwn. Qewreite oti oi xqesines epimaxes dhlwseis toy k. Arsenh symballoyn pros aythn thn kateyqynsh; Deyteron, poio htan to antikeimeno ths synomilias toy k. Pagkalo me ton Toyrko presby k. Pamir; Kai, triton, poio einai to qema ths apanthshs ths rhmatikhs diakoinwshs poy qa epidwsoyme entos twn hmerwn sthn Agkyra;

REPPAS: H rhmatikh diakoinwsh h opoia qa epidoqei sthn Agkyra, einai akribws h apanthsh sto diabhma poy ekane h Toyrkikh Kybernhsh ston Ellhna Presby sthn Agkyra, k. Nezerith.

POYLIDOY: Ti perilambanei;

REPPAS: Oti akribws den ginetai dekto to periexomeno toy diabhmatos ths Toyrkias, giati qewroyme oti den exei antikeimeno, den exei bash.
* Oson afora th deyterh erwthsh sas: O k. Pagkalos einai Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, synanta Presbeis allwn xwrwn, syzhtoyn qemata koinoy endiaferontos. Kai den nomizw oti oi syzhthseis aytes dinontai sth dhmosiothta, me thn ennoia oti apoteloyn to antikeimeno - metajy twn allwn - ergasias toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Einai ena synhqes fainomeno.
* Gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Arsenh twra - epanalambanw kai pali - einai dhlwseis oi opoies epanalambanoyn to aytonohto: Oti apenanti se mia epiqetikh epektatikh politikh, xreiazetai na yparxei isxyrh apotreptikh dynamh. Kai oi enoples dynameis ths Ellados einai enas paragontas apotrophs kaqe diaqeshs gia epektatikh h apeilhtikh politikh apo thn allh pleyra. Ayth einai qesh thn opoia asfalws h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh dexetai, giati einai politikh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs. Na exoyme isxyres enoples dynameis, me bash ta dedomena ta opoia yparxoyn shmera kai katw apo tis paroyses synqhkes. Apo ekei kai pera, den qewroyme oti oi dhlwseis aytes einai proklhtikes h dhmioyrgoyn problhma. Giati den einai tipote allo para h apanthsh, h antidrash enos kybernhtikoy ajiwmatoyxoy se mia pragmatikothta. H opoia pragmatikothta den einai allh apo thn politikh thn opoia h Toyrkia askei apenanti sthn Ellada, poy einai mia epektatikh epiqetikh politikh.

POYLIDOY: Diaceydete thn plhroforia poy grafei shmera o Typos, oti o k. Pagkalos zhthse dieykriniseis apo ton Toyrko Presby se orismena shmeia ths protashs Gilmaz;

REPPAS: Fantazomai oti sta plaisia ths syzhthshs poy exei o Ellhnas Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn me ton Toyrko Presby, yparxoyn qemata - epanalambanw - ta opoia aforoyn tis dyo xwres. Den exw na diaceysw kati. Oyte exw na epibebaiwsw kati. Me thn ennoia oti den exw na sxoliasw kaqoloy to antikeimeno syzhthsewn poy exei o Ellhnas Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn me toys Presbeis me toys opoioys synantatai.

POYLIDOY: Ara, den qewreitai lhjasa h protash Gilmaz gia thn Ellada;

REPPAS: Ma, exoyme apanthsei, kyria Poylidoy. Exoyme apanthsei, apo tis 24 Martioy, stis dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz.

POYLIDOY: To gnwrizw. Giati epanerxomaste, omws, tote;

REPPAS: Epeidh teqhke erwthma edw, peri twn dhlwsewn poy kanoyn Toyrkoi ajiwmatoyxoi anaferomenoi sthn Ellada. Gi'ayto to logo kai mono.

MARDAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ti exei kanei h Kybernhsh gia na stamathsei th syrriknwsh toy Ellhnismoy sthn Imbro kai thn Tenedo;

REPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh parakoloyqei me endiaferon to pws isxyoyn oi Synqhkes sth sygkekrimenh perioxh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn adynamies, oi opoies exoyn odhghsei se mia katastash poy asfalws den einai eyxaristh gia ton Ellhnismo. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei aisqhma eyqynhs. Kai sta plaisia twn sxesewn me th geitonikh xwra kai ayto to qema exei to meridio endiaferontos ths Kybernhshs. Wste na mhn exoyme thn peraiterw epideinwsh h opoia - prepei na sas pw - exei symmaxo ths (ayth h epideinwsh, h syrriknwsh, o afanismos - an qelete - aytoy toy Ellhnismoy) ton pandamatora xrono. Exoyn meinei hlikiwmenoi anqrwpoi, oi opoioi dystyxws peran toy oti exoyn sterhqei twn dikaiwmatwn toys, siga-siga ekleipoyn kai apo th zwh.

MARDAS: Opws jerete, basei Synqhkwn, oi Ellhnes ekei exoyn dikaiwma aytodioikhshs kai topikhs astynomias. H Kybernhsh protiqetai na ypenqymisei stoys Toyrkoys oti ofeiloyn na sebasqoyn ayta ta dikaiwmata kai na ta apodwsoyn stoys enapomeinantes Ellhnes; Anaferomai se epipedo OHE, DASE h allwn Dieqnwn Organismwn.

REPPAS: Kyrie Marda, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, oxi mono h paroysa, alla pisteyw kaqe Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, kanei o,ti einai dynaton wste na epanalambanetai ayto to endiaferon ths gia ton Ellhnismo, s'aytes tis perioxes kai gia tis politikes oi opoies akoloyqoyntai apo thn Toyrkia, poy odhgoyn ston afanismo toy Ellhnismoy. Pisteyw oti sta plaisia akribws anadeijhs aytoy toy qematos, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei akoma arketa periqwria, pragmatika, na labei prwtoboylies, wste na anadeijei th shmantikothta toy problhmatos gia mas.

FILHS: Anoigw eisagwgika: "Den einai nohth h enarjh dialogoy me mia xwra, h opoia askei staqera epektatikh politikh enanti ths Ellados kai ferei ws klhronomia thn katastrofh toy Ellhnismoy". Ayto akribws dhlwse xqes o k. Arsenhs. Ej aytoy, mporei na katalabei, opoios gnwrizei ellhnika, oti den einai dynatos pote o dialogos me thn Toyrkia, efoson stis proypoqeseis toy dialogoy einai kai to qema ths katastrofhs toy Ellhnismoy. Me ayto to "propatoriko amarthma" barynetai h Toyrkia enanti ths Elladas. Ayto einai qesh ths Ellados, ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs; Oti oydepote qa kanoyme dialogo me thn Toyrkia;

REPPAS: H qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, kyrie Filh, exei diatypwqei kat'epanalhch.

FILHS: Sas erwtw eyqews.

REPPAS: O Ellhnismos exei plhgei apo thn epiqetikh politikh ths Toyrkias kai apo stratiwtikes epixeirhseis twn toyrkikwn dynamewn. Kai ekei kai alloy, sthn Kypro. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti emeis prepei na anamenoyme tis sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies tis opoies empraktws h Toyrkia qa analabei, wste na staqmisoyme th qesh mas, h opoia - epanalambanw kai pali - einai mia qesh, h opoia epidiwkei kalh geitonia kai anaptyjh filias kai synergasias me thn Toyrkia. Alla oi sxeseis aytes den mporei para na edrazontai se orismenes arxes kai kanones, gia toys opoioys exoyme kat'epanalhch milhsei. Kai milhsa pali molis prohgoymenws.

FILHS: Eyqews, gia th dhlwsh toy k. Arsenh. Syggnwmh poy epimenw. Alla an to qema den eixe parei diastaseis kai apo thn Agkyra kai den eprokeito h dhlwsh toy k. Arsenh na apotelei ena trito paragonta stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, den qa epemena shmera. Ayto einai ena eqniko qema.

REPPAS: Pisteyw, kyrie Filh, oti einai shmera kanonas na yparxei epikoinwnia, na yparxei synergasia, na anaptyssontai sxeseis metajy twn xwrwn. Alla - epanalambanw kai pali - h anaptyjh aytwn twn sxesewn ginetai sth bash sygkekrimenwn arxwn. Yparxoyn xwres oi opoies yphrjan katw apo thn katoxh allwn xwrwn kai shmera exoyn synergasia. Pws htan h Eyrwph ston polemo, pws einai h Eyrwph shmera; Einai ena deigma ths proodoy poy exei syntelestei, wste oi sxeseis twn xwrwn, twn kratwn na einai teleiws diaforetikes. Alla, bebaiws, oi sxeseis aytes einai diaforetikes, epeidh edrazontai sthn isotimia kai thn amoibaia wfeleia. Ayto epidiwkoyme kai stis sxeseis mas me thn Toyrkia. Gia na yparjei, omws, ayto prepei - epanalambanw kai pali - na ginoyn sebastes kapoies arxes, gia tis opoies milhsa pali, molis prin, opws kai tis prohgoymenes meres.

FILHS: O neos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias, k. Gionesai - gia ton opoio o k. Mhtsotakhs exei dhlwsei oti exei akoysei kala logia - dhlwse oti o sebasmos twn ypoxrewsewn poy aporreoyn apo tis Dieqneis Symfwnies einai h bash gia thn anazhthsh twn lysewn. Ayth h dhlwsh den egine sto CNN. Egine sthn Toyrkikh Eqnosyneleysh. Dhladh, exei thn analogh desmeysh h Toyrkia. Pws to sxoliazei h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h Toyrkia, an pragmatika pisteyei s'ayth thn politikh kai den einai ena frastiko pyrotexnhma h dhlwsh toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, den qa exei megalh dyskolia na ypogracei to keimeno twn 15 kratwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, to opoio arnhqhke na ypogracei molis liges meres prin. To opoio akribws den einai tipote allo, para mia epanalhch qesewn toy Katastatikoy Xarth toy OHE kai ths Telikhs Prajhs toy Elsinki. O k. Gionesai, an qelei na einai kalos Toyrkos, pisteyw oti thn proodo ths patridas toy prepei na thn blepei mesa apo thn ejomalynsh twn sxesewn ths Toyrkias me thn Ellada. Kai prepei na ergasqei s'aythn thn kateyqynsh.

APOSTOLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h Toyrkia zhtaei - kaqws fainetai - dialogo me sygkekrimeno antikeimeno. Dhladh thn ypografh synyposxetikoy. H Kybernhsh antimetwpizei ayto to endexomeno;

REPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qewrei oti aytos, akribws, poy entopizei ena problhma, prepei to problhma ayto, me to xarakthra toy to nomiko, na to dromologei sta kanalia ekeina ta opoia exoyn ejoysiodothsh kai armodiothta na antimetwpisoyn kai na lysoyn ayto to problhma. Kai tetoia kanalia, tetoioi diayloi yparxoyn sth dieqnh koinwnia. Einai to Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, gia na anaferqw se ena paradeigma. Pisteyw, loipon, oti h Toyrkia, epeidh akribws qewrei oti den isxyoyn Synqhkes, oti den isxyoyn Symfwnies, einai ayth h opoia prepei na analabei ayth thn prwtoboylia. As analabei h Toyrkia ayth thn prwtoboylia kai emeis qa staqmisoyme th qesh mas.
Sas eyxaristw poly.