BRIEFING (PRIME MINISTER) 29-02-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 28.2.1996

SYNENTEYJH TYPOY TOY PRWQYPOYRGOY k. KWSTA SHMITH PROS TOYS POLITIKOYS SYNTAKTES KAI TOYS ANTAPOKRITES JENOY TYPOY STO ZAPPEIO MEGARO

Exei symplhrwqei enamish peripoy mhnas apo tote poy anelaba Prwqypoyrgos kai orkisthke h nea Kybernhsh. Sto erwthma, ti exei ginei mexri shmera, h apanthsh einai: kai polla kai liga. Polla, giati anatrecame ena klima opoy h oysiastikh syzhthsh gia ta politika problhmata htan sto periqwrio.

Shmera, mia matia ston Typo, arkei gia na diapistwsei kaneis oti ta erwthmata gia thn poreia twn eqnikwn qematwn, gia ta oikonomika problhmata, gia thn antimetwpish twn koinwnikwn ejelijewn, einai sto epikentro ths prosoxhs.

To endiaferon gia thn politikh einai h prwth kai oysiastikh proypoqesh gia mia dhmioyrgikh syzhthsh. Tis dhmioyrgikes lyseis gia ta problhmata qa tis epidiwjei h Kybernhsh mas. Ta organa ths, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai h Kybernhtikh Epitroph leitoyrgoyn taktika. H Kybernhsh ekponei programmata doyleias, kaqorizei sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis gia kaqe Ypoyrgeio, diamorfwnei proteraiothtes kai xronodiagrammata.

Qelame kai petyxame ayto to mhna na diamorfwsoyme kai na kaqierwsoyme enan allo tropo leitoyrgias toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos. Aytos o allos tropos leitoyrgias einai proypoqesh ths apodotikothtas kai ths apotelesmatikothtas ths Kybernhshs. Polloi, isws, qewroyn oti ayto poy egine, einai kati aytonohto. Alla h empeiria deixnei oti para polla aytonohta ston topo mas, den einai kai toso aytonohta, alla xreiazetai arketos kopos kai xreiazontai kai sygkroyseis gia na epiteyxqoyn.

Epityxame, epishs, sta plaisia ths kinhtopoihshs twn dynamewn toy politikoy mas xwroy na jekinhsoyn oi diadikasies gia megalyterh symmetoxh twn melwn ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK kai na proxwrhsei h stenh synergasia me ta organa toy PASOK. Polloi qa poyn: me katanalwsh yperbolikoy xronoy kai me arketes antiparaqeseis. Nai, me antiparaqeseis kai me katanalwsh xronoy, alla qelame na deijoyme kai deijame oti h Kybernhsh exei enan paideytiko rolo na prokalei apoceis, na prokalei syzhthseis kai na synqetei. H politikh twn diatagwn einai mia politikh poy apostasiopoiei. H politikh toy dialogoy poy qeloyme emeis, einai mia politikh h opoia ekpaideyei sthn eyqynh. Ayta gia ta polla.

Liga exoyn ginei mexri shmera, giati briskomaste akoma sthn arxh.Exoyn ginei bhmata, prwta bhmata. Alla prepei na akoloyqhsoyn polla akoma. Polla akoma gia na yparjei mia oysiastikh strofh pros to kalytero. Gia na fanei sto apotelesma oti yparxei mia diafora, oti yparxei proodos.Ayth einai h doyleia h opoia erxetai. H doyleia thn opoia qa deijoyme ston epomeno xrono.

Qelw na ypenqymisw oti dianyoyme mia idiaitera dyskolh periodo. H Ellada brisketai antimetwph se ejelijeis se dyo diaforetika epipeda: Apo th mia meria prospaqei na oloklhrwsei thn ejodo ths apo mia koinwnia endiamesoy epipedoy anaptyjhs kai me qesmoys kai leitoyrgies mias perasmenhs epoxhs. H Dhmosia Dioikhsh mas, gia paradeigma, exei xamhloys ryqmoys paragwgikothtas kai exei periorismenh apotelesmatikothta. Einai akoma ephreasmenh apo to pelateiako systhma. Taytoxrona, omws, konta sta palia problhmata, tiqentai kainoyrgia problhmata poy qetei h pagkosmiopoihsh ths oikonomias. Oyte sthn oikonomia, oyte stis dieqneis sxeseis, oyte ston politismo mporoyme na xarajoyme politikh xwris na laboyme yp'ocin ta gegonota ta opoia ginontai gyrw mas kai pragmatopoioyntai xwris th symbolh mas kai polles fores se antiqesh me tis epiqymies mas. Den eimaste monoi mas gia na kaqorisoyme opws qeloyme emeis ta pragmata. Prepei na akoloyqhsoyme ryqmoys poy epiballontai apo to gyrw mas kosmo. Kai ofeiloyme na prosarmostoyme kai s'aytes tis nees pragmatikothtes.

H prosarmogh, loipon, den einai eykolh. Giati prepei na katapolemhsoyme ta kataloipa toy parelqontos. Kai otan lew "toy parelqontos", ennow pollwn dekaetiwn. Ta elleimmata koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs, tis entones perifereiakes anisothtes, tis safeis koinwnikes diaforopoihseis poy proerxontai apo thn epoxh poy sbhnei. Sygxronws, omws, h dieqnopoihsh ths oikonomias kai h anagkh sygklishs pros tis anaptygmenes biomhxanikes xwres epiballei alles proteraiothtes. Ta politika aithmata, gi'ayton akribws to logo, sygkroyontai. Kai oi proteinomenes politikes, polles fores, den symbibazontai. Kai ena kalo paradeigma gi'aytes tis sygkroyseis, einai to erwthma: Pws mporoyme na symbibasoyme tis epitages ths koinwnikhs prostasias kai th dhmioyrgia enos koinwnikoy istoy asfaleias me tis epitages ths dhmosionomikhs peiqarxias kai toy periorismoy twn dhmosionomikwn elleimmatwn;

Prepei na jeroyme oti qaymatoyrges lyseis den yparxoyn. Oi politikes poy mporei na efarmosei kaqe Kybernhsh, ypo tis shmerines synqhkes, apaitoyn xrono gia na apodwsoyn. O dromos qa einai dyskolos. Alla ean proxwrhsoyme me systhmatikothta kai me synepeia, ean proxwrhsoyme me gnwmona thn epidiwjh mas gia mia koinwnia eleyqerias, dhmokratias kai koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs, syntoma qa exoyme kaqorisei toys dromoys gia na periorisoyme ta shmerina problhmata gia na antimetwpisoyme. Eimai aisiodojos oti toys dromoys aytoys qa toys kaqorisoyme kai qa petyxoyme.

To erwthma twra einai: Poia qa einai ta kentrika qemata ths drashs mas toys epomenoys mhnes; Milw gia th drash twn epomenwn mhnwn kai oxi gia th drash mexri teloys ths koinoboyleytikhs periodoy gia to synolo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy:
* Prwto qema, prwth proteraiothta gia mas einai h prowqhsh twn eqnikwn mas qematwn. H stenoterh synergasia me tis eyrwpaikes xwres, h anaptyjh twn epafwn poy qa mas epitrecoyn na dieyrynoyme synexws th symparastash sta dikaia aithmata mas. Merikoi kalliergoyn thn entypwsh oti h eyrwpaikh symparastash einai kati aytonohto.Kai otan den ekdhlwnetai amesws kai molis th zhthsoyme, h prospaqeia synennohshs me ta melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs einai apotyxhmenh. Qa prepei na katalaboyme oti ta pragmata den einai etsi. Oti h koinh qesh twn etairwn pros ofelos mas xreiazetai pollh prospaqeia kai den prokeitai na prokycei mono epeidh to epiqymoyme. H proodos se opoiodhpote qema sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh basizetai se mia synexh diapragmateysh. Ayth einai h empeiria thn opoia exoyme apo thn epoxh ths entajhs mas mexri shmera. Prepei na proballeis synexws ta aithmata soy, na zhtas, na epimeneis, na diapragmateyesai. Spania petyxaineis kati me thn prwth fora. Entajh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh shmainei, loipon, synexh prospaqeia kai synexh diapragmateysh. S'ayto, sthn poreia ayth, isxyei mia arxh: Eimaste melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ofeiloyme na exoyme logo kai prwtoboylia. Isxyrh Ellada sthn Eyrwph einai h epidiwjh mas.

Ws pros tis ellhno-toyrkikes sxeseis kai thn Toyrkia, to mhnyma mas einai: Den diekdikoyme, den paraxwroyme. Epidiwkoyme thn eirhnh kai thn efarmogh twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy sthn perioxh.

Oi qeseis mas apenanti stoys etairoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ws pros ayto to problhma htan safeis. H Diakybernhtikh Diaskech qa prepei na syzhthsei to qema twn ejwterikwn synorwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.Gia mas, gia thn Ellada, ta synora ths kaqe xwras (kratoys- meloys) pros trites xwres, einai kai synora ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H arxh ths koinotikhs allhleggyhs qa prepei na isxyei kai gia thn prostasia twn synorwn.Ean trith xwra proballei aithmata kai amfisbhthseis gia th lysh ths diaforas, efarmozontai oi kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Ean den yparxei symfwnia, prepei h trith xwra poy proballei apaithseis na prosfeygei sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs.

Thn apoch mas ayth, gia thn efarmogh twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, dexqhkan oloi oi synomilhtes mas mexri shmera. Apotelei shmantikh proodo oti dexqhkan oi synomilhtes mas, sto tajidi poy eixame, pws den prokeitai pia gia mia politikh diafora h opoia prepei na antimetwpisqei mesa apo dimereis politikes diapragmateyseis, einai mia diafora h opoia qa prepei na epilyqei me bash toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy.

H stash toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn, thn perasmenh Deytera (26.2.), enisxyei ayth th qesh mas. Dekatreis xwres (me thn Ellada dekatessereis) taxqhkan me ayth th qesh. Qa htan bebaia kalytero na yparjei mia apofash toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn kai na mhn yparjei to veto ths Megalhs Bretanias. Omws, einai shmantiko kai den prepei na parablepoyme oti oles oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs (plhn ths Megalhs Bretanias) qeloyn opws emeis, oi edafikes dienejeis na dieyqetoyntai mono me prosfygh sto Dikaio, dhladh sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio (xrhsimopoiw thn ekfrash, h opoia yphrxe sthn anakoinwsh ths Proedrias).

Gia na prowqhsw aytes tis apoceis, qa synexisw tis epafes moy me tis Kybernhseis twn allwn xwrwn:
-Stis 21 Martioy qa episkefqw th Rwmh kai qa synomilhsw me ton Prwqypoyrgo k. Ntini kai qa episkefqw kai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k.Skalfaro.
-Qa episkefqw epishs th Megalh Bretania.
-Kai opws jerete, exei orisqei mia synanthsh me ton Proedro Klinton, stis 9 Aprilioy.
* Dinoyme idiaiterh shmasia kai sthn anaptyjh twn sxesewn mas me tis Hnwmenes Politeies, s'ayto to tajidi, alla oxi mono.
* Dinoyme shmasia kai sth diathrhsh twn kalwn sxesewn mas me th Rwsia. Meta tis ekei proedrikes ekloges, qa episkefqw kai th Rwsia.
-Telos toy Marth pragmatopoieitai h Diakybernhtikh sto Torino. Qa epidiwjoyme na exoyme mia energh paroysia toso sth synanthsh toy Torino oso kai stis diadikasies - opwsdhpote anagkaies - oi opoies qa akoloyqhsoyn.

Sxetika me thn amyntikh politikh: H amyntikh politikh syzhthqhke sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.Apofasisqhkan oi genikes grammes. To Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas qa ferei to Maio to mesoproqesmo programma promhqeiwn sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia apofash.

H balkanikh synergasia apotelei shmantiko pedio drashs: Stis 11 kai 12 Martioy synerxetai sth Qessalonikh Synedrio me qema thn epixeirhmatikh synergasia ths Elladas kai twn allwn balkanikwn kratwn.Exoyn prosklhqei Prwqypoyrgoi kai Ypoyrgoi apo tis alles balkanikes xwres. Qa parastw kai egw.
** Deytero qema ths drasthriothtas mas, stoys epomenoys mhnes, einai h anaptyjiakh apotelesmatikothta. Syzhthsame se dyo synedriaseis ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs thn efarmogh toy Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs kai thn prowqhsh twn Megalwn Ergwn. Kai to Koinotiko Plaisio Sthrijhs kai ta Megala Erga einai kentrika shmeia ths anaptyjiakhs prospaqeias. Yparxoyn qetikes ejelijeis, alla yparxoyn kai shmantika problhmata.
-Phrame mia seira apofaseis kai apo aytes tis apofaseis qa anaferw thn anaqesh toy genikoy syntonismoy kai thn eyqynh taxyterhs prowqhshs sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias, to opoio qa exei to geniko prostagma: na parakoloyqei ola ta Ypoyrgeia kai na dinei odhgies gia to pws qa mporoyn na proxwrhsoyn ta programmata taxytera. Qa yparxei ena mhniaio deltio proodoy kata Ypoyrgeio gia na mporoyme na elegxoyme pws akribws ejelissontai ta programmata. Se kaqe Ypoyrgeio qa yparxei ena politiko proswpo to opoio qa einai armodio kai ypeyqyno gia thn parakoloyqhsh kai qa dinei logo.

Oson afora tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis, epeidh emplekontai mia seira apo Ypoyrgeia, apofasisame to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs na einai ekeino to opoio qa einai ypeyqyno gia to syntonismo, thn parakoloyqhsh olwn twn drasewn.

Kai telos, xreiazetai idiaiterh prosoxh sta kainotomika programmata kai tis hpies ypodomes. Ola ta programmata poy aforoyn kataskeyes, epeidh yparxei mia empeiria, proxwroyn ikanopoihtika. Alla programmata, opws ekeina ths Epimorfwshs h ths Paideias (poy den aforoyn kataskeyes kai den yparxoyn oi qesmoi, oi ypodomes sta Ypoyrgeia gia na efarmosqoyn) kaqysteroyn. Xreiazetai, loipon, s'ayto to shmeio - sta kainotomika programmata - mia idiaiterh prosoxh.

Se sxesh twra me thn oikonomikh katastash: O periorismos twn makro-oikonomikwn anisorropiwn kai eidikotera toy plhqwrismoy, h meiwsh twn elleimmatwn kai h pisth ektelesh toy proypologismoy, apoteloyn kentrikoys alla dyskoloys stoxoys.
-H politikh ths staqerhs isotimias ths draxmhs qa synexisqei. Fetos, gia prwth fora, qa epidiwjoyme h diolisqhsh ths draxmhs apenanti sto ECU na einai ths tajhs toy 1% peripoy. Dhladh, sxedon, mhdenikh diolisqhsh.An to petyxoyme, ayto qa einai ena epiteygma kai qa einai apodeijh ths staqerothtas toy nomismatos mas.

Me to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias apofasisame na etoimastei ena plaisio gia thn katapolemhsh ths spatalhs sto dhmosio tomea, mexri ton Aprilh. Kai meta qa proxwrhsoyme stis aparaithtes energeies gia na periorisoyme akribws phges spatalhs. H anamorfwsh toy trapezikoy systhmatos me stoxo th beltiwsh twn yphresiwn kai thn enisxysh toy antagwnismoy metajy twn Trapezwn einai epidiwjh mas. Qa syzhthsw to qema me toys dioikhtes twn Trapezwn stis 4 Martioy.

Telos, oson afora ton koinwniko dialogo poy einai kentriko shmeio ths politikhs mas, apofasisame kai syzhthsame xqes me th GSEE na arxisei enas eyrys koinwnikos dialogos gia shmantika qemata ths oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs zwhs. Stoxos einai me th GSEE kai ton SEB (dhladh me ergazomenoys kai ergodotes) na proxwrhsoyme se mia Eqnikh Koinwnikh Symfwnia, h opoia qa xarazei orismenes genikes kateyqynseis gia koinh kinhtopoihsh. O dialogos, pisteyoyme oti dhmioyrgei tis proypoqeseis gia symparatajh kai enisxysh twn politikwn mas stoxwn.

Gia thn oikonomia, loipon, h arxh mas einai: Anaptyjiakh apotelesmatikothta, antagwnistikh oikonomia s'enan kosmo dieqnoys diasyndeshs kai newn texnologiwn.
*** Trito qema ths politikhs mas, toys epomenoys mhnes, einai: H politikh koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs.
-Exw dwsei entolh sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias na proxwrhsei amesws stis diaboyley- seis kai meta stis diapragmateyseis, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei tropos arshs adikiwn kai anisothtwn toy isxyontos systhmatos syntajewn, idiws ws pros toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys. Ayton ton kyklo synennohsewn kai apofasewn qa ton oloklhrwsoyme prin to kalokairi.
-Edwsa, epishs, entolh sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn na entatikopoihsoyme thn prospaqeia katapolemhshs ths forodiafyghs. H forodiafygh einai phgh koinwnikwn anisothtwn. Kai h koinwnikh dikaiosynh epiballei na periorisoyme drastika thn paraoikonomia.
-Synennohqhka me to Ypoyrgeio Ergasias na paroysiasei to programma toy gia thn katapolemhsh ths anergias kai gia thn apasxolhsh, to Marth, sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Wste na proxwrhsoyme amesws meta sthn chfish toy sxetikoy nomosxedioy kai th lhch twn metrwn poy prokyptoyn ap'ayto to nomosxedio.
-Qymizw oti anefera epishs, prin, ton koinwniko dialogo me th GSEE kai ton SEB. Koinwniko dialogo, o opoios qa afora kai qemata koinwnikhs politikhs.
-Arxh mas einai: Koinwnia me perissoterh synoxh kai allhleggyh. Mia koinwnia xwris synoxh, einai mia anisxyrh koinwnia.Einai mia Ellada xwris mellon.
**** Tetarto qema twn epomenwn mhnwn einai h epektash ths Dhmokratias kai h diafaneia ths politikhs mas zwhs.
-Ta qemata ths apokentrwshs kai ths enisxyshs twn perifereiwn qa syzhthqoyn sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph stis 5 Martioy.
-To sxedio nomoy gia th xrhmatodothsh twn kommatwn qa epidiwxqei na syzhthqei sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio stis 15 Martioy. Kai elpizoyme h diadikasia sxetika me to nomosxedio ayto (dhladh kai h chfish toy apo th Boylh) na teleiwsei to dynaton taxytera.
-Entos toy Martioy qa epidiwjoyme kai thn oloklhrwsh toy sxedioy nomoy gia thn eyqynh twn Ypoyrgwn.
-Arxh mas, se sxesh me ta qemata ths Dhmokratias, einai: Isxyrh koinwnia poy shmainei diafaneia ths politikhs zwhs kai symmetoxh toy atomoy stis koinwnikes diergasies.
***** Pempto qema einai h beltiwsh ths poiothtas zwhs. Me to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias exoyme synennohqei na proxwrhsei ta metra gia th beltiwsh twn yphresiwn twn Noshleytikwn Idrymatwn kai thn poiotikh anabaqmish twn Ypoyrgwn Ygeias. To qema qa syzhthqei ton Aprilio sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

Sthn hmerhsia diatajh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs twn epomenwn mhnwn, einai ta qemata ths ekpaideytikhs politikhs, ths prostasias toy katanalwth, toy kaqorismoy kai ths katagrafhs xrhsewn ghs sto plaisio beltiwshs kai eksygxronismoy ths xwrotajikhs nomoqesias.
-Arxh mas einai: H poiothta zwhs einai proypoqesh ths eleyqerias kai aytonomias toy atomoy.

Konta se ola ayta ta opoia anefera - kai epanalambanw einai stoxoi twn amesws epomenwn mhnwn - bebaiws kai qa synexisoyme to kybernhtiko ergo to opoio exei katagrafei stis Programmatikes Dhlwseis. Einai tomeis, stoys opoioys den anaferqhka. Alla qa kataballetai shmantikh prospaqeia, opws ston tomea toy Politismoy.

Taytoxrona, omws, qa synexisoyme - kai egw idiws, proswpika - na metaferoyme orismena mhnymata poy aforoyn to hqos kai yfos ths ejoysias, thn politikh mas koyltoyra kai to politismiko yfos ths politikhs. Xronia edw ston topo, exei kallierghqei ena klima poy exei dhmioyrghsei thn pepoiqhsh oti h politikh drash prepei na xarakthrizetai apo epiqetikothta, synqhmatologia, yperbolh, ychloys tonoys kai qeatrikh stash. To klima ayto diaperna oloys toys tomeis ths politikhs zwhs, ths zwhs mas: apo tis fwnes gia prodosia sth Boylh kai thn apoxwrhsh ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs mexri th stash twn koykoyloforwn astynomikwn, kata ton elegxo toy kataylismoy twn tsigganwn. Eimaste antiqetoi me ton tropo ayto politikhs drashs kai me ayto to klima.

H leitoyrgia ths Dhmokratias, h leitoyrgia ths Politeias kai h apodotikh politikh xreiazontai epixeirhmata kai oxi fwnes. Xreiazontai metro. Xreiazontai dialogo. Xreiazontai, pro pantos, koinwnikh eyqynh. Antilhch, oti oloi prepei na doyleyoyme gia to koino symferon. Mono etsi qa epityxoyme, h Politeia mas na xarakthrizetai apo synqesh kai oxi apo diairesh. Na xarakthrizetai apo thn prospaqeia ths syllogikothtas kai oxi apo thn entonoterh dynath antipalothta.

Kyries kai kyrioi,

Ta osa qa epidiwjoyme toys amesws epomenoys mhnes, einai- opws eipa sthn arxh - ena mikro tmhma twn oswn prepei na ginoyn. Alla pisteyw oti ean proxwrhsoyme s'ayta, qa exoyme kanei ena mikro, alla apofasistiko bhma, gia na jeperasoyme tis amfibolies kai thn apaisiodojia. Qa exoyme deijei oti mporoyme. Mporoyme na allajoyme pros to kalytero kai na elpizoyme gia to mellon. Sas eyxaristw.

DHMAKAS (NEA): Kyrie Proedre, kai xqes kai shmera anaferqhkate sthn anagkh lhchs metrwn gia thn enisxysh twn xamhlosyntajioyxwn. Orismenoi lene oti - nai men o dialogos o opoios einai anagkaios, alla trabaei se makros - "opoios den qelei na zymwsei, cilokoskinizei arketes meres". Mhpws skeptesqe kapoies desmeyseis pros aythn thn kateyqynsh twn xamhlosyntaji- oyxwn, twn atomwn me xamhla eisodhmata, en pash periptwsei, poy ontws einai ena megalo problhma kai dhmioyrgei problhma sto idio to koinwniko proswpo toy PASOK. Yparxoyn kapoies sygkekrimenes desmeyseis apo pleyras sas, apo pleyras Kybernhsews, pros aythn thn kateyqynsh;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyrie Dhmaka, h prohgoymenh Kybernhsh eixe desmeyqei na yparjei enas dialogos sxetika me ayto to qema.Den eixe proxwrhsei se ayton to dialogo. Stis Programmatikes Dhlwseis dhlwsa oti h Kybernhsh qa jekinhsei ayto to dialogo. Kai edwsa akribws entolh na jekinhsei o dialogos.Exoyn jekinhsei oi epafes gia th diapistwsh twn diaforwn pleyrwn toy problhmatos. Kai h ergasia ayth, h synennohsh me th GSEE, h synennohsh me toys xamhlosyntajioyxoys qa oloklhrwqei stoys amesws epomenoys mhnes.Eipa: to argotero qa parqoyn oi sxetikes apofaseis, prin arxisei to kalokairi. Ayto einai to xronodiagramma mas kai s'ayto qa staqoyme. Prin oloklhrwqei o dialogos, den mporw na kanw anakoinwseis. Qa htan proxeiro kai biastiko.

ROYSOPOYLOS (MEGA CHANNEL): Kyrie Proedre, edw kai enamish mhna, h xwra zei epi ths dikhs sas prwqypoyrgias ena endiaferon peirama: Einai h prwth fora poy Prwqypoyrgos den exei thn idiothta toy Proedroy toy kybernwntos kommatos. Poso isxyros aisqanetai o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios den exei ayth thn idiothta; Kai me thn eykairia, sto prosexes Synedrio toy PASOK, protiqesqe na qesete ypochfiothta gia thn Antiproedria;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyrie Roysopoyle, o Prwqypoyrgos, an kai den einai Proedros toy kommatos - Proedros toy kommatos einai o Andreas Papandreoy, o opoios idryse to komma, edwse th sfragida toy sto komma - aisqanetai idiaitera isxyros. Kai den aisqanetai oti - apo to gegonos pws den einai Proedros toy kommatos - prokyptoyn desmeyseis sthn politikh toy. Periorismoi prokyptoyn apo th genikh politikh katastash, apo thn yparjh diaforetikwn apocewn, apo thn anagkh synqesewn. Ayto yparxei se kaqe metabatikh periodo. Den prepei na mas ekplhssei. Qa einai mia poreia h opoia qa exei dyskolies, alla dyskolies oi opoies telika qa jeperastoyn.To PASOK einai enwmeno. To PASOK qelei na diamorfwsei mia politikh h opoia qa toy ejasfalisei th nikh stis epomenes ekloges.Kai qa thn ejasfalisei ayth thn politikh. Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, ws Prwqypoyrgos, qa asxoloymai me ta problhmata toy topoy.Ayth einai h apostolh moy. Den prokeitai na asxolhqw me eswkommatikes diergasies kai propantos, oxi bebaia, me eswkommatikes antiparaqeseis. Den qa epitrecw, epishs, apo th dikh moy thn pleyra, h poreia pros to Synedrio na einai mia poreia proeklogikhs ekstrateias gia thn katalhch kommatikwn qesewn. Ena tetoio rolo symmetoxhs se tetoies diadikasies, ton arnoymai. Epanalambanw oti epidiwjh toy PASOK einai, alla kai proswpikh moy epidiwjh einai to PASOK na einai enwmeno kai na dhmioyrghsei tis proypoqeseis ekeines wste na kerdisei tis epomenes ekloges. Oson afora to diko moy rolo, otan erqei h wra, qa syzhthsw to qema me toys syntrofoys moy. Qa kanw to xreos moy. To qema den einai proswpiko.To qema einai politiko.

PAPPAS: Kyrie Proedre, to teleytaio diasthma, "flertarete" entona me thn ennoia ths kentro- aristeras. Mporeite na moy peite, eseis pws antilambanesqe thn ennoia ths kentro-aristeras; Poio einai to ideologiko kai politiko periexomeno poy eseis ths dinete h ean, en pash periptwsei, ayth jeperna ta kommatika oria toy PASOK;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: O xwros ths kentro-aristeras sthn Ellada, einai enas xwros o opoios eixe diamorfwqei prin polles dekaeties. Ejakoloyqei na yparxei kai den entassetai monaxa mesa se ena komma.Emeis, sthn prospaqeia thn opoia kanoyme na dieyrynoyme thn aphxhsh toy PASOK, sthn prospaqeia na entajoyme oso to dynaton perissoteroys sto PASOK, perissotera nea melh, na yparjei mia kalyterh diasyndesh toy PASOK me thn koinwnia, me toys chfoforoys toy, qeloyme na kinhtopoihsoyme oles aytes tis dynameis poy apoteloyn ayto to xwro. Oi dynameis aytes exoyn polles fores diaforetikes politikes kai ideologikes antilhceis, alla exoyn koines ajies kai koinoys stoxoys. Exoyn antilhch se sxesh me thn koinwnikh ejelijh poy qetei se prwth proteraiothta ajies, opws h Dhmokratia kai h koinwnikh dikaiosynh.

KAMPOYRAKHS (ANTENNA): Kyrie Proedre, analabate thn prwqypoyrgia ypo to baros triwn ariqmwn: 53 - 53 - 50. Ayth th stigmh kybernate eseis h moirazete thn ejoysia 53 - 53 - 50 h toylaxiston dexesqe pieseis na thn moirasete etsi;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyrie Kampoyrakh, den anelaba thn prwqypoyrgia ypo to baros aytwn twn ariqmwn. Prwta ap'ola einai poly qetiko oti ginontai chfofories, oti yparxoyn diaforetikes ypochfiothtes, oti yparxoyn diaforetika proswpa, ta opoia epidiwkoyn na hghqoyn enos kommatos. Epeidh akribws einai qetiko, den prepei na blepoyme thn pleyra ths antipalothtos alla prepei na blepoyme thn pleyra ths prosforas. Kai meta prepei na blepoyme thn pleyra ths synqeshs kai ths koinhs epidiwjhs. Sto PASOK yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis se orismena qemata. Yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis gia stoxoys, gia taktikes, gia xeirismoys, gia proteraiothtes kai ierarxh- seis.Aloimono, ean den yphrxan. Ayth einai h zwntania toy kommatos. Egw, ws Prwqypoyrgos, exw xreos na prospaqw na symballw sth synqesh aytwn twn apocewn. Ayto kostizei merikes fores kairo. Zhsate mia Koinoboyleytikh Omada h opoia dihrkese 11 wres. Alla par'olo poy kostizei kairo, odhgei se mia poly kalyterh kinhtopoihsh, se mia symparastash, se mia megalyterh omoiogeneia. Den qa petyxoyme ean den prospaqhsoyme olos o xwros na einai syntetagmenos pisw apo thn kybernhtikh politikh. Ayth einai h prospaqeia moy. Kai ayth thn prospaqeia qa synexisw.

ELENOPOYLOS (FLASH): Kyrie Proedre, dyo pragmata: Prwton, mas eipate, sth synenteyjh poy dwsate sto Parisi, oti ypo dyo proypoqeseis h Ellada qa synergasqei sthn efarmogh ths symfwnias telwneiakhs enwshs Toyrkias - Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs: 1) Na prosfygei h Toyrkia (efoson synexizei na diekdikei ellhniko edafiko xwro) sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs kai 2) Na paraithqei h Toyrkia twn diekdikhsewn ths, alla kai twn apeilwn ths sto Aigaio. Qelw na sas rwthsw ean aytes oi dyo proypoqeseis isxyoyn, me dedomeno oti h Proedreyoysa toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Italias kyria Soyzana Anieli dhlwse sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths Deyteras (26.2.) pws h ellhnikh pleyra qa mporoyse na arkesqei se mia dhlwsh mh epiqeshs ek meroys ths Toyrkias.
-Kai h deyterh erwthsh moy: Xqes, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn dhlwse pws mexri to 2000 den qa mporesete na dwsete polla pragmata. Se ti synistatai loipon, katopin ths xqesinhs dhlwsews toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn ths Kybernhsews sas, h thrhsh toy koinwnikoy symbolaioy;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Oson afora thn prwth erwthsh sas: H kyria Anieli ekfrazei thn Proedria, ekfrazei thn Italia. Den ekfrazei thn Ellada. H Ellada exei pei oti den prokeitai na synergasqei sthn efarmogh ths symfwnias gia thn telwneiakh enwsh oso diarkei h toyrkikh epiqetikothta, oso h Toyrkia proballei apaithseis. Qa htan paralogo, otan h Toyrkia stelnei stratiwtes se ellhnika nhsia h apeilei oti prokeitai na kanei polemo, emeis na synexizoyme th synergasia mas sthn efarmogh ths symfwnias ths telwneiakhs enwshs, ws na mh symbainei tipota. Ayto dhlwsame stoys etairoys mas.Kai ayth qa einai h arxh mas stoys epomenoys mhnes: Qa prepei oi etairoi mas, qa prepei h Toyrkia, qa prepei genika h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na brei toys tropoys na epilyqoyn oi diafores aytes h mallon gia na akribologw na ryqmisqoyn ta qemata ta sxetika me tis apaithseis ths Toyrkias kata tetoio tropo, wste na mhn yparxoyn pia mellontika problhmata.Emeis qeloyme mia politikh eirhnhs kai mia politikh filias. Ayto shmainei oti prepei na teqei mia gia panta telos sta problhmata. Ayto dwsame stoys synomilhtes mas na katalaboyn. Emeis den exoyme diafores apenanti sthn Toyrkia. Emeis den proballoyme apaithseis. Emeis exoyme mia ajiwsh: Den qeloyme na yparxoyn tribes.Ayto den einai mono diko mas qema, einai kai diko toys qema. Prepei na to katalaboyn kai na frontisoyn gi'ayto. Synergasia den mporei na yparxei otan h symfwnia (telwneiakhs enwshs) leei oti h Toyrkia prepei na diathrei filikes sxeseis kai na synergazetai me tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai den antapokrinetai s'ayth thn ypoxrewsh.
-Sto deytero erwthma poy qesate: H Ellada exei symfwnhsei me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, sto plaisio ths Synqhkhs toy Maastrixt, sthn efarmogh enos programmatos sygklishs. Enos programmatos sygklishs, wste na symmetasxei kai h Ellada sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh (ONE), h opoia problepetai sth Synqhkh toy Maastrixt. H Ellada exei kaqe symferon na efarmosei to programma sygklishs. Exei kaqe symferon na efarmosei to programma sygklishs giati etsi qa anaptyjei th synergasia ths me tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, giati etsi qa mporesei na symmetasxei apofasistika kai me rolo stis epomenes ejelijeis.Exei kaqe symferon, giati etsi qa dhmioyrghsei kai tis proypoqeseis mias politikhs syzhthshs, otan arxisei h trith fash ths ONE. Gia to ti shmainei ayth h trith fash (ths ONE) gia tis ypoloipes xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy den qa symmetasxoyn ston prwto arxiko pyrhna, qa dhmioyrghsei tis proypoqeseis gia mia politikh syzhthsh se sxesh me thn peraiterw ejelijh. Ean qeloyme na enisxysoyme thn enwtikh dynamikh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai na dieykolynoy- me th symmetoxh mas sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh, prepei na thrhsoyme to programma sygklishs. Yparxoyn kai alles xwres oi opoies exoyn ta dika toys ta problhmata.Gia paradeigma, to Belgio. To Belgio exei ena dhmosio xreos toso ychlo, wste apokleietai h symmetoxh toy sthn trith fash ths ONE, ej arxhs. Kai to Belgio qa qesei ta problhmata ths ONE, otan arxisei h trith fash, qa qesei ta problhmata katw apo politikes proypoqeseis, opws emeis. Alla prepei na exoyme ta epixeirhmata gia na ta qesoyme. Kai ta epixeirhmata qa ta exoyme, ean exoyme akoloyqhsei ayth thn poreia. Ayto, omws, to oti qa akoloyqhsoyme th symfwnia gia th sygklish (ta osa exoyme kaqorisei) den shmainei oti qa poreyqoyme me analloiwtes oles tis politikes mas, opws htan akribws sto parelqon. Eipa kai prin oti prepei na kanoyme mia sobarh prospaqeia periorismoy ths spatalhs. Mia sobarh prospaqeia ayjhshs ths apotelesmatikothtas. Prepei na epitaxynoyme thn anaptyjh kai na enisxysoyme thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh. Ena kentriko qema apasxolhshs mas, toys epomenoys mhnes, einai h koinwnikh dikaiosynh. H beltiwsh ths katastashs olwn mas ejartatai akribws apo thn anaptyjiakh prospaqeia. Sth Xalkidikh exoyn kleisei ta metalleia Kassandras. Den prokeitai na beltiwqei h qesh twn ekei ergazomenwn kai oswn zoyn ekei me kratikes paroxes, dioti oi kratikes paroxes meta apo ligo ejantloyntai. Exoyme kaqe symferon ws xwra, alla kai oi katoikoi ths perioxhs exoyn kaqe symferon na ginei to ergostasio to opoio problepetai, dioti oxi monaxa to ergostasio qa ferei apasxolhsh, alla qa ferei kai poly perissotero eisodhma gia oloys toys katoikoys ths perioxhs. Ependyseis, loipon! Ta programmata toy Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs ston tomea ths Paideias kai ston tomea ths Ergasias anerxontai peripoy se 1 trisekatommyrio draxmes. Einai ena - as moy epitrapei h ekfrash - iliggiwdes poso. To synolo ths ajias toy Panepisthmioy Patrwn (ta ktiria, oi egkatastaseis, oi biblioqhkes) exei ektimhqei se 65 disekatommyria draxmes. To 1 tris antiproswpeyei, peripoy, 20 Panepisthmia, opws to Panepisthmio Patrwn. Ti shmainei ayto; Shmainei oti h beltiwsh ths katastashs olwn mas perna apo thn apotelesmatikh ajiopoihsh aytwn twn porwn. Eipa prin, sthn topoqethsh moy, oti enw kata thn efarmogh toy Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs yparxei kapoia eyxereia sto na proxwroyn programmata poy aforoyn kataskeyes, stis hpies ypodomes h sta kainotomika programmata (opws ayta toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias kai toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias) yparxei megalh kaqysterhsh giati den exoyme thn ypodomh. Akribws s'ayth thn kateyqynsh prepei na doylecoyme. Loipon, Staqeropoihsh - Anaptyjh - Koinwnikh Prostasia einai ena triptyxo, toy opoioy oloi oi ajones exoyn ish ajia kai oloi oi ajones sygkentrwnoyn thn prosoxh mas.

KAMPOYRGIANH (ET1): Kyrie Proedre, opws eixate pei sto parelqon kai epanalabate kai shmera, oso h Toyrkia prokalei kai apeilei, h Ellada den qa synergasqei sthn oloklhrwsh ths telwneiakhs enwshs. Qa emmeinoyme s'ayth th qesh, opoies kai an einai oi epiptwseis stis sxeseis mas me toys etairoys, estw kai an ayto mas odhghsei sthn apomonwsh;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyria Kampoyrgianh, dyo parathrhseis sthn erwthsh sas: Prwta ap'ola, den mporei kaneis se mia synenteyjh - oyte egw, oyte o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, oyte kaneis armodios - na diagracei thn taktikh toy gia toys epomenoys mhnes kai ta epomena xronia. Dioti tote den qa mporei oyte diapragmateysh na yparxei, oyte eleyqeria kinhsewn. H qesh mas einai safhs: Den synergazomaste sthn pragmatopoihsh, sthn efarmogh ths symfwnias telwneiakhs enwshs me thn Toyrkia. Twra, me rwthsate gia thn apomonwsh: Den pisteyw kai den exw kanena stoixeio apo to opoio na prokyptei oti prokeitai na apomonwqoyme apo toys ypoloipoys etairoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Egw ekeino to opoio diapistwsa, einai oti oi etairoi eixan kai exoyn megalh apostash apo mas. Oti den eixan mia ikanopoihtikh epafh, oti den eixan thn enhmerwsh thn opoia hqelan, oti den eixan th sxesh mesa apo thn opoia qa aneptyssan tis dikes toys apoceis kai qa akoygan tis dikes mas apoceis. Kai akribws aythn thn apostash qelw na jeperasw.Akribws qelw na mhn yparxei mia apomonwsh h opoia yphrxe apo ta pragmata. Isws o oros "apomonwsh" einai pio dynatos ap'o,ti antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta. O pragmatikos oros einai h "apostash" mexri na jeperastei.Kai mesa apo th diadikasia ayth, me to na ejhghsoyme ta epixeirhmata mas, pisteyw oti den prokeitai na yparjei problhma. H ejelijh h opoia yphrxe sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn ths Deyteras (26.2) edeije oti alles dekatreis xwres symfwnoyn m'emas sthn efarmogh toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Giati na fobomaste oti qa breqoyme se apomonwsh; H lejh "apomonwsh" kalliergei ena klima httopaqeias. Prepei na palecoyme gia tis qeseis mas.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS (SKAI): Kyrie Proedre, qa hqela na sas rwthsw dyo pragmata: To teleytaio diasthma, arxhs genomenhs apo ton prwhn Ypoyrgo Typoy ton k. Thlemaxo Xythrh, yparxoyn kapoies dhlwseis kai kapoies ektimhseis apo boyleytes toy kommatos, poy anaferontai sto endexomeno epanodoy toy Proedroy toy PASOK toy k. Andrea Papandreoy, akoma kai sthn prwqypoyrgia. Qa hqela to sxolio sas gi'ayto. Kai to deytero, sto Synedrio toy kommatos ton Ioylio, einai endexomeno na prokycei mia diarxia. Dhladh, allos na einai Proedros toy kommatos kai allos o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa hqela thn apoch sas gi'ayto.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: O k. Andreas Papandreoy, Proedros toy PASOK, phre prin ligo kairo thn istorikh apofash kai paraithqhke apo Prwqypoyrgos. Ejefrase me ayton ton tropo, th qelhsh toy na mhn einai Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras kai na analabei kapoios allos, mesa apo diadikasies ekloghs apo thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, Prwqypoyrgos. Ayth einai h gnwsth qelhsh toy. Kai den pisteyw oti exei allajei gnwmh. Den prokyptei apo poyqena ayto. Kai oles aytes oi plhrofories oi opoies kykoloforoyn, pisteyw oti einai plhrofories oi opoies den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikh toy qelhsh. Allwste, ap'o,ti jerw kai o k. Xythrhs ermhneyontas ta osa eipe se synexeia kapoiwn ermhneiwn poy eginan, edwse kai aytos th gnwmh oti o k. Papandreoy den skeptetai na analabei pali Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras. To qema exei kleisei. Oson afora to deytero erwthma, to qema ths diarxias, edwsa prin thn apanthsh moy.

YLVA WIGH (SVENSKA DAGBLADET): Milhsate prohgoymenws gia to problhma me thn Toyrkia. Yparxoyn omws, stoys kolpoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai alles mikres xwres poy exoyn synoriaka problhmata me trites xwres. Anaferomai sthn Aystria kai sth Finlandia. Protiqesqe sto plaisio ths periodeias sas stis xwres-melh ths E.E. na episkefqeite kai aytes tis xwres; Kai anaferomai eidikotera sth Finlandia, h opoia exei makroxrones kai shmantikes epafes me enan poly problhmatiko geitona. Kai den anaferomai fysika sth Soyhdia! Pisteyete epishs oti oi mikres xwres sthn E.E. -opws h Ellada- exoyn logo;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Stis epafes poy eixa me ton k. Kol, ton k. Sirak, ton k. Ntean, ton k. Santer, etonisa oti to problhma to opoio mas apasxolei den einai ena problhma poy afora mono thn Ellada. Einai ena problhma to opoio mporei na prokycei se sxesh me alles xwres ths E.E. kai mporei na afora tis sxeseis allwn xwrwn ths E.E. me trites xwres. Gi'ayto prepei na yparjoyn genikoi kanones gia oles tis xwres ths E.E. Gi'ayto kai anefera shmera kai anefera stoys synomilhtes mas oti qa prepei na syzhthqei olo ayto to problhma sth Diakybernhtikh. Ayto egine katanohto. Kai pisteyw oti gi'ayto qa yparjei apo polles xwres ths E.E. symparastash sto na syzhthqei ayto to problhma kai na yparjoyn genikoi kanones. O k. Pagkalos prokeitai na episkefqei tis xwres ths E.E. tis opoies den qa episkefqw egw. Opws sas eipa, problepontai episkeceis dikes moy sthn Italia, sth Megalh Bretania, kai piqanws sthn Irlandia, h opoia qa exei thn epomenh Proedria ths Koinothtas.

AFENTOYLH (STAR CHANNEL): Kyrie Proedre, o k. Santer xqes ekane mia dhlwsh sthn opoia anaferetai sto qema twn synorwn kai qewrei oti ayto to qema einai skopimo na syzhthqei sthn Diakybernhtikh. Molis pro oligoy anaferate oti yparxei enas problhmatismos kai stoys synomilhtes poy eidate thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, ayto to qema qa mporoyse na einai ena apo ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn sto Torino, sth Diaskech poy qa arxisei. Pisteyete oti ayto to "mplok" twn 13 xwrwn syn thn Ellada qa paei aqrymmatisto sth Diakybernhtikh h sto metajy, epeidh qa exei mesolabhsei kai to Symboylio Syndeshs me thn Toyrkia, endexomenws, na antimetwpisoyme mia allh isorropia mexri to Torino; Qewreite dhladh oti to "14-1" einai diathrhsimo mexri tote h yparxei periptwsh na anatrapei epeidh h piesh gia na proxwrhsei h telwneiakh enwsh einai entonh, opws jerete.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Nomizw oti to "14-1" qa ejakoloyqhsei na yparxei. Giati to "14-1" den diamorfwqhke se sxesh monaxa me to problhma opws to qetei h Toyrkia. To "14-1" exei diamorfwqei me bash thn epidiwjh mas kai thn arxh oti prepei na yparjei mia synolikh ryqmish aytwn twn problhmatwn. Oloi oi etairoi blepoyn oti den mporei na trabaei ayto to problhma. Kai ara, prepei na teleiwsei. Kai epeidh qa dw kai toys Aggloys kai qa yparjoyn epafes, pisteyw oti den qa einai "14-1". Pisteyw oti qa ginei "15-0".

DHMTSAS (ADESMEYTOS TYPOS): Kyrie Proedre, kapoioi eipan oti stis prwtes meres ths prwqypoyrgias sas kanate ena megalo laqos: na apeyqynete eyxaristies kata thn ellhno- toyrkikh krish stoys Amerikanoys. Mporeite na mas peite shmera, poios o logos ekeinwn twn eyxaristiwn kai kata deytero logo, qa to janakanate shmera;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyrie Dhmtsa, ekeino to brady h Toyrkia eixe proxwrhsei se mia klimakwsh, xwris na exei yparjei mazi ths kammia prohgoymenh epikoinwnia. O Proedros Klinton prosefere ekeinh th stigmh, xwris na to zhthsei h Ellada, tis yphresies toy. H anafora thn opoia ekana sth Boylh, den htan tipote allo, para h epishmansh toy xrhsimoy roloy ton opoion epaije gia na jeperastei ayth h krish. Tipote allo. Kai ayto den exei kammia sxesh me dhlwseis ypoteleias oi opoies eixan ginei se alles epoxes. Kai den synepagetai bebaiws paraskhniakes symfwnies. Emeis yperaspizomaste ta ellhnika symferonta. Kai emeis qa pairnoyme ta metra kai qa kanoyme tis aparaithtes ekeines dhlwseis, oi opoies qa odhghsoyn sthn apodoxh twn ellhnikwn qesewn kai sthn proaspish twn ellhnikwn symferontwn.

MARKOBITS (GIOYGKOSLABIKO PRAKTOREIO EIDHSEWN): Qa hqela na sas rwthsw kyrie Prwqypoyrge, pws blepete tis sxeseis Aqhnwn - Beligradioy, giati polla legontai kai grafontai kai gia to limani ths Qessalonikhs kai gia alla zhthmata.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Oi sxeseis Aqhnwn - Beligradioy einai kales. Emeis eimaste se diarkh epafh me to Beligradi kai qeloyme na dieyrynoyme aytes tis sxeseis.

LYGEROS (EPENDYTHS): Kyrie Prwqypoyrge, oi dyo prokatoxoi sas eixan dhlwsei epishmws oti opoiadhpote proelash twn toyrkikwn strateymatwn sthn Kypro qa htan aitia polemoy gia thn Ellada. Epeidh den to eixate anaferei ayto stis programmatikes sas dhlwseis, qa hqela na sas rwthsw an isxysei ayth h qesh. Dhladh, an sas desmeyei.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Isxyei. Isxyei h qesh.

LYGEROS (EPENDYTHS): Kai to deytero qema einai, ean pisteyete oti h Ellada mporei na askhsei to symbatiko dikaiwma ths, na epekteinei ta xwrika ths ydata sta 12 milia. Kai giati den to kanei;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H Ellada exei to dikaiwma na epekteinei thn aigialitida zwnh sta 12 milia. Qa to kanei, otan to krinei skopimo.

KANELLOPOYLOS (APOGEYMATINH): Kyrie Proedre, erwthqhkate prohgoymenws kai den dwsate apanthsh kata th gnwmh moy, sto ti qa prajete sto Synedrio toy PASOK, an qa diekdikhsete thn kommatikh hgesia. Eipate oti otan erqei h wra qa to syzhthsete kai qa kanete to xreos sas. Sebasto ayto. Wstoso, yparxei to qema ths diarxias gia to opoio koryfaia stelexh toy PASOK kai prwtoklassatoi Ypoyrgoi exoyn parei qesh tassomenoi yper ths diarxias. Malista, proballoyn ws protypo ta sosialistika eyrwpaika kommata. S' ayto to qema, mporeite na jekaqarisete th qesh sas; Eiste yper ths diarxias h oxi;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Sas edwsa thn apanthsh moy kai den exw na prosqesw tipote sta osa eipa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den apanthsate sto an qa diekdikhsete h oxi thn hgesia toy kommatos.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: To erwthma poy moy qesate entassetai sto genikotero plaisio ths prohgoymenhs erwthshs kai ths prohgoymenhs apanthshs moy. Qelw na epanalabw oti ekeino to opoio endiaferei emena ayth th stigmh - kai pisteyw oti ejyphretw kata ton kalytero dynato tropo to PASOK - einai na proxwrhsei to kybernhtiko ergo. Oti an h Kybernhsh einai apotelesmatikh, oti an h Kybernhsh deijei ergo, ayto qa exei qetiko antiktypo kai sto komma sto opoio symmetexw. Oti proypoqesh ths nikhs stis epomenes ekloges einai h Kybernhsh na proxwrhsei sthn efarmogh twn programmatikwn dhlwsewn ths kai sthn efarmogh toy programmatos toy PASOK. Oti proypoqesh ths nikhs stis epomenes ekloges einai na deijoyme to komma enwmeno, dynato, apotelesmatiko. Ena komma to opoio stoixizetai pisw apo thn kybernhtikh prospaqeia. Ayth einai h genikh grammh. Kai me bash ayth th genikh grammh, epanalambanw, qa synennohqw me toys syntrofoys moy kai qa kanw to xreos moy otan prepei.

KACAMPELHS (ELEYQEROS TYPOS): Kyrie Proedre, eipate oti kai to qema gia ton k. Andrea Papandreoy exei kleisei. Alla den exei kleisei to allo megalo qema. Kai anejarthta apo thn apofash poy qa parete sto Synedrio, poy exei na kanei me to poios qa einai epikefalhs toy PASOK stis epomenes ekloges, h erwthsh einai h ejhs: Mporei kata thn apoch sas - anejarthta apo th dikh sas apofash - na hghqei toy PASOK stis ekloges allo proswpo apo ton shmerino Prwqypoyrgo; Kai mporei na einai sthn epomenh tetraetia, efoson kerdisei to PASOK tis ekloges, Prwqypoyrgos, allo proswpo apo ton shmerino Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Otan egine h eklogh Prwqypoyrgoy, h "formoyla" h opoia xrhsimopoihqhke einai "2+4". Panw se ayth th "formoyla" yphrxe symfwnia: oti opoios eklegei Prwqypoyrgos qa einai ypochfios Prwqypoyrgos toy PASOK stis epomenes ekloges kai me ton ypochfio ayto qa diekdikhsei to PASOK kai thn epomenh tetraetia. Ayth einai h arxh. Kai panw se ayth thn arxh qa poreyqoyme.

ADAM (ELEYQEROTYPIA): Kyrie Proedre, poia einai h sygkekrimenh energeia poy anamenei h Kybernhsh apo th nea toyrkikh kybernhsh, otan ayth sxhmatisqei, wste h Ellada na mhn proxwrhsei se sklhrynsh ths qeshs ths sthn ylopoihsh ths telwneiakhs enwshs; Ep' aytoy, apo thn prosfath periodeia sas, apokomisate thn entypwsh h perissotero diabebaiwseis apo toys etairoys oti qa kinhqoyn pros ayth thn pleyra; Kai mia dieykrinish an moy epitrepete: Eipate oti etairoi kai Toyrkia na broyn tropoys na ryqmisqoyn ta qemata twn apaithsewn ths Toyrkias apenanti sthn Ellada wste na teqei mia gia panta telos sta problhmata. Me ayto egw, mporw na eikasw oti mia endexomenh diadikasia Dikasthrioy Xaghs qa perilambanei paketo qematwn pros lysh, peran ths yfalokrhpidas, ths ekkremothtas twn diekdikhsewn sthn Imia. Qa einai ena paketo lysewn poy endexomenws qa paei sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Sto prwto erwthma sas: H Toyrkia exei polles dynatothtes. As dialejei. Mporei na dhlwsei oti den exei kammia apaithsh. Oti kleinei ayto to qema. Mporei na paei sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Emeis qa topoqethqoyme analoga me thn prwtoboylia poy qa parei kai analoga me to poso h prwtoboylia ayth kalyptei, ejyphretei ta symferonta mas.

Oson afora to deytero erwthma, qelw na dieykrinisw - giati yparxei isws kapoia asafeia ws pros ayto to qema - to ejhs: H Ellada stis 20 Dekembrioy toy 1993, anagnwrise, dynamei toy arqroy 36 paragrafos 2 toy Katastatikoy toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, thn ypoxrewtikh armodiothta toy Dikasthrioy - kai anaferomai kata lejh sth dhlwsh - "IPSO FACTO kai xwris eidikh symfwnia me ton oro ths amoibaiothtas enanti oioydhpote alloy kratoys apodexetai thn idia ypoxrewsh". H apodoxh ayth ths ypoxrewtikhs dikaiodosias egine me thn epifylajh diaforwn poy anaferontai - epishs anaferomai sth dhlwsh - se amyntikh stratiwtikh drash poy analambanei h Ellada gia logoys eqnikhs amynas. Dhladh, gia na to pw apla: h Ellada exei dhlwsei oti apodexetai thn ypoxrewtikh armodiothta toy Dikasthrioy gia oles tis diafores oi opoies qa prokycoyn, ektos apo diafores poy anaferontai sthn eqnikh amyna. Ean mia allh xwra kanei thn idia dhlwsh kai apodexqei kai ayth thn ypoxrewtikh armodiothta toy en logw Dikasthrioy gia oles tis diafores, mporei na qesei sto Dikasthrio thn opoiadhpote diafora nomizei, efoson exei nomikh yfh. H Ellada einai ypoxrewmenh na symmetasxei se aytes tis diadikasies kai na dwsei thn apanthsh ths. H Ellada den einai ypoxrewmenh, ean h diafora ayth anaferetai se qemata eqnikhs amynas.

ZWGRAFOS (EXPRESS-OIKONOMIKOS TAXYDROMOS): Kyrie Prwqypoyrge, parathrhsa oti sthn eisagwgikh omilia sas den anaferqhkate kaqoloy sto qema twn idiwtikopoihsewn. Fysika den ennow ayth th diadikasia metoxopoihshs toy OTE, alla milaw gia sobares periptwseis opws einai ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka, ta Nayphgeia Eleysinos, h periptwsh ths Kassandras, poy eseis anaferate monos sas, exei idiwtikopoihqei kai kaqysterei kai o,ti allo exei apomeinei sto dhmosio tomea, epibarynontas ton me dapanes kai kondylia.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Anaferate treis periptwseis opoy h diadikasia ayth, metabibashs ston idiwtiko tomea exei proxwrhsei, exei oloklhrwqei me ton enan h ton allon tropo.
-Ta metalleia Kassandras anhkoyn pia se mia idiwtikh epixeirhsh. Anhkan bebaia prin kai se mia Trapeza, den htan dhmosia.
-Ta Nayphgeia Eleysinos exoyn perielqei sthn Emporikh Trapeza, giati o prwhn idiokthths toys den mporese na ekplhrwsei tis ypoxrewseis toy.
-H Emporikh Trapeza, ap'oso gnwrizw, exei jekinhsei tis diadikasies metabibashs toys pali se kapoia idiwtikh epixeirhsh.
-Oson afora ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka, yparxei mia ryqmish h opoia problepei oti ena megalo pososto einai pia sta xeria twn ergazomenwn. Kai ekei ginetai ena eidiko peirama.
-Genika, arxh mas einai oti se oles tis epixeirhseis oi opoies briskontai se antagwnistikoys tomeis ths agoras, qa prepei na epidiwxqei h metabibash toys se idiwtes epixeirhmaties.

ZWGRAFOS (EXPRESS-OIKONOMIKOS TAXYDROMOS): Gia thn periptwsh ths DEP, thn opoia jexasa na anaferw prohgoymenws;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H DEP einai mia eidikh periptwsh opws o OTE. Gia th DEP exei apofasisei h prohgoymenh Kybernhsh. Kai ayth h Kybernhsh qa efarmosei ayth thn apofash, na metabibasqei ena pososto ths DEP, alla oxi h pleiochfia, ena paketo metoxwn, se idiwtes epixeirhmaties. Alla ayto exei pollh doyleia kai prepei na ginoyn diafores ryqmiseis epeidh h DEP den paizei monaxa ena rolo ws epixeirhsh, exei kai kapoioys ryqmistikoys roloys.

LASKARIDHS (AYRIANH): Kyrie Proedre, apo tis prwtes meres ths Kybernhshs sas, proxwrhsate se allages sthn koryfh Trapezwn kai Dhmosiwn Organismwn. Poioi logoi epebalan aytes tis allages, me to skeptiko oti ta proswpa ayta eixan topoqethqei apo Kybernhsh PASOK; Ayto einai to ena erwthma. Kai to deytero: Epikriqhkate gia tis diadikasies poy akoloyqhqhkan s'aytes tis allages. Qa hqela ena sxolio, mia apanthsh s'ayta.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Oloi oi epikefalhs twn Dhmosiwn Organismwn kai Epixeirhsewn gnwrizoyn oti h politikh thn opoia efarmozoyn, elegxetai. Diapistwnetai an einai apodotikh h oxi. Ereynatai an pairnoyn tis prwtoboylies tis opoies prepei na paroyn. Krinontai. Kai analoga me thn krish, yparxoyn apofaseis: Eite synexizoyn th qhteia toys eite oxi. Ayto isxyei gia oloys. Oson afora th diadikasia epiloghs twn newn epikefalhs Dhmosiwn Epixeirhsewn kai Organismwn, isxyei ekeino poy isxye kai epi prohgoymenhs Kybernhshs: O armodios Ypoyrgos kanei tis ektimhseis toy, eishgeitai gia kentrikoys Organismoys ston Prwqypoyrgo. Kai apofasizei o Prwqypoyrgos me ton armodio Ypoyrgo. Kai an prokeitai gia mia Dhmosia Epixeirhsh h opoia paizei shmantikotato rolo, yparxei kai synennohsh sto plaisio ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

JENH DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Prwqypoyrge, otan qa ejelissetai h symfwnia telwneiakhs enwshs Toyrkias - E.E., poies qa einai oi epiptwseis stis toyrko-ellhnikes sxeseis; Pisteyete oti h anaptyjh oikonomikwn kai emporikwn sxesewn qa dhmioyrghsei mia qetikh atmosfaira prokeimenoy na epilyqei kai to yfistameno politiko problhma metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias; Kai pisteyete oti ayto mporei na symbei braxyproqesma h makroproqesma;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H Ellada pisteyei oti h anaptyjh ths Toyrkias einai mia diadikasia h opoia qa wfelhsei kai th xwra mas. Oti to anoigma twn agorwn epitrepei stis epixeirhseis mas na drasthriopoihqoyn kai sthn toyrkikh agora. Oti h prowqhsh ths anaptyjhs sthn Toyrkia bohqaei oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Kai thn Ellada. Gi'ayto den exoyme kammia antirrhsh. Isa-isa, exoyme endiaferon na yparjei anaptyjh sthn Toyrkia. Ekeino, omws, to opoio epishs qeloyme einai: h diadikasia ayth na einai mia diadikasia h opoia den synodeyetai apo synexeis tribes se sxesh me ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata h se sxesh me thn askhsh twn dikaiwmatwn ta opoia exoyme. Gi'ayto leme oti prepei na teleiwsoyn ayta ta problhmata wste na mhn yparjoyn pia problhmata kai na mporesei na proxwrhsei h telwneiakh syndesh xwris proskommata.

SKOYRHS (EQNOS): Kyrie Proedre, desmeyei thn Kybernhsh sas h apofash toy teleytaioy Symboylioy politikwn Arxhgwn gia to qema ths synqeths onomasias ths prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias; Kai meta to telos ths diapragmateyshs, qa sygkalesete ek neoy Symboylio Arxhgwn; Kai genikotera, ayto to qema ths diakommatikhs synennohshs sta eqnika qemata, pws to blepete; Me poies diadikasies qa to proxwrhsete;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Oson afora ta Skopia, isxyei h qesh mas oti emeis den dexomaste ton oro "Makedonia" h paragwga toy oroy "Makedonia". Ta Skopia, opws gnwrizete, yposthrizoyn oti qa prepei h onomasia toys na einai "Makedonia". Ayth th stigmh brisketai se ejelijh h epafh metajy twn dyo merwn. An yparjei proodos se sxesh me to qema ayto, an yparjoyn kapoia shmeia ta opoia epiballoyn na syzhthsoyme to qema jana, qa to syzhthsoyme sta Kybernhtika Organa kai qa yparjei epafh me ta alla kommata kai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia na diapistwsoyme an einai anagkh na ginei Symboylio Arxhgwn. Oson afora, twra, to qema ths synennohshs me ta alla kommata, emeis eimaste anoixtoi sth synennohsh me ta alla kommata gia opoio qema epiqymoyn. Prokeitai mesa sto Marth na ginoyn dyo syzhthseis pro hmerhsias diatajhs sth Boylh: Mia syzhthsh gia th Diakybernhtikh, mia deyterh syzhthsh gia thn oikonomikh katastash. Oi syzhthseis sth Boylh einai oi syzhthseis sto Organo ekeino to opoio problepei to Syntagma gia na ekfrazontai oi apoceis kai na diamorfwnetai politikh. O k. Pagkalos, gia to eidiko qema ths Imias kai twn apaithsewn ths Toyrkias, exei kalesei ola ta kommata na erqoyn se epafh mazi toy. Exei erqei se epafh mazi toy o k. Kwnstantopoylos kai enas apo toys Symboyloys toy k. Ebert exei epaneilhmmena syzhthsei mazi toy. Opoios politikos arxhgos qelei, mporei na syzhthsei me ton k. Pagkalo kai na labei thn plhroforhsh poy prepei. O k. Pagkalos epishs, exei dyo fores symmetasxei se syzhthseis ths Monimhs Koinoboyleytikhs Epitrophs gia tis ejwterikes sxeseis kai thn Amyna kai ekei exei anaptyjei tis apoceis toy kai exei akoysei tis apoceis twn boyleytwn kai twn allwn kommatwn.

FILHS (AYGH): Kyrie Prwqypoyrge, stis proteraiothtes toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, anaferate diafora nomosxedia kai alles drasthriothtes. Den eida na perilambanetai, omws, ena qema to opoio me epimono tropo kai polles fores me qliberes proektaseis, fainetai na apasxolei thn koinwnia mas. Kai anaferomai sthn katastash poy epikratei sto swfronistiko systhma. To teleytaio diasthma, opws jerete, yparxei mia statistikh: Peripoy kaqe mhna yparxei mia ejegersh stis fylakes. Ti protiqetai na kanei h Kybernhsh;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Kyrie Filh, ayto einai ena problhma shmantiko. O k. Benizelos exei hdh dhlwsei oti epilambanetai toy problhmatos kai to qema to parakoloyqei h Kybernhsh. Egw s'ayta poy sas anefera, tonisa proteraiothtes kai draseis oi opoies qa ginoyn kai qa oloklhrwqoyn mesa stoys epomenoys mhnes. An o k. Benizelos paroysiasei tis protaseis toy, qa tis syzhthsoyme kai elpizw oti kai ayto to qema, mesa stoys epomenoys mhnes, qa mpei se ena dromo antimetwpishs. Bebaia, to swfronistiko systhma sto synolo toy, den mporei na allajei mesa se ligoys mhnes, giati ena basiko qema einai h elleich xwroy, h elleich fylakwn. Prepei na ginoyn fylakes.

MPOYRDARAS (KAQHMERINH): Eipate prin apo ligo, gia th symfwnia toy "2+4", kata thn eklogh toy neoy Prwqypoyrgoy. Na symperanw dhladh oti isxyei akoma h desmeysh sas gia ejantlhsh ths tetraetias kai oxi prosfygh se prowres ekloges; Ayto einai to ena erwthma. Kai to deytero einai, an protiqetai h Kybernhsh, mexri to telos ths tetraetias, na allajei ton eklogiko nomo pros to analogikotero h oxi.

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H desmeysh toy PASOK kai h dikh moy oti den prokeitai na ginoyn prowres ekloges, isxyei. O eklogikos nomos den prokeitai n'allajei.

JENOS DHMOSIOGRAFOS (IRANIKO PRAKTOREIO EIDHSEWN - IRNA): Sthn omilia sas shmera den anaferetai kaqoloy h sxesh ths Elladas me tis xwres ths Meshs Anatolhs. Pws qa einai h politikh sas s'ayth thn perioxh; Kai, prokeitai na tajidecete sthn perioxh;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H Ellada exei, ws gnwston, paradosiakes filikes sxeseis me tis xwres ths Meshs Anatolhs. Loipon, aytes tis sxeseis qa tis synexisoyme kai qa prospaqhsoyme na tis dieyrynoyme. Mesa sto xrono twn triwn epomenwn mhnwn, periqwrio gia para polla tajidia, bebaiws, den yparxei. Prepei prwta na frontisoyme tis sxeseis mas me toys etairoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, th Diakybernhtikh, na mpoyn kapoia pragmata sth seira kai meta qa episkefqoyme kai alles xwres.

JENH DHMOSIOGRAFOS (ELBETIKO PRAKTOREIO): Kyrie Prwqypoyrge, hqela na sas rwthsw: yparxoyn h qa yparjoyn prwtoboylies twn etairwn mas, ths Gallias h ths Germanias, gia kapoies pieseis h gia kapoia lysh stis diafores poy yparxoyn metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias; Kai deyteron, mhpws mporeite na sxoliasete mia dhlwsh toy k. Ban nten Mproyk, o opoios eipe xqes oti h arxh ths syzhthshs gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh einai paketo me thn telwneiakh enwsh ths Toyrkias;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Me ton k. Kol kai me ton k. Sirak, opws exw anaferei epaneilhmmena, syzhthsa to problhma. Kai o k. Kol kai o k. Sirak dhlwsan oti otan sxhmatisqei h toyrkikh kybernhsh, qa ejetasoyn poies energeies h poies prwtoboylies mporoyn na paroyn gia na jeperastoyn ta problhmata. Enapokeitai se aytoys na paroyn tis prwtoboylies. Emeis tonisame oti qa htan xrhsimes, anagkaies, giati den qeloyme na diaiwnizontai paromoies antipalothtes. Oson afora to qema to opoio qesate se sxesh me thn Kypro kai to Kypriako, emeis den apodexomaste to epixeirhma oti mporei na qesei kapoios to qema anabolhs ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai gi'ayto den prepei na qigoyme ta kakws keimena. Ayto qa htan ena epixeirhma to opoio qa mas odhgoyse se paralysh. Qa htan ena epixeirhma to opoio qa dikaiologoyse mia httopaqeia. Emeis qa proballoyme ta aithmata mas kai qa proballoyme epishs kai thn ypoxrewsh thn opoia exei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na arxisei tis diadikasies syzhthshs me thn Kypro, gia thn entajh ths, mesa sto ejamhno meta to ejamhno poy qa akoloyqhsei th Diakybernhtikh.

PETOYRH (ET-2 - 9,84): Kyrie Proedre, na epanelqw sto "14-1" h sto "15-0" opws ekfrasate thn ektimhsh kai thn aisiodojia ...

PRWQYPOYRGOS: Prepei na epidiwkoyme. An den epidiwkoyme, den katafernoyme.

PETOYRH (ET-2 - 9,84): ... kai na sas rwthsw, poies proypoqeseis nomizete oti prepei na ikanopoihqoyn oytws wste na metabalei stash to Londino; Kai ej'aytoy ormwmenh, epishs, na sas rwthsw poy apodidete thn arxikh stash ths Megalhs Bretanias, thn perasmenh Deytera (26/2) sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn;

PRWQYPOYRGOS: H Megalh Bretania einai panta epifylaktikh se sxesh me tis diadikasies koinhs topoqethshs twn etairwn sta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai amynas. H Megalh Bretania exei mia apoch arketa diaforetikh apo toys ypoloipoys etairoys. Den aspazetai, ston idio baqmo, thn anagkh mias stenoterhs synergasias se qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai amynas. H stash ths mporei na einai aporroia ayths ths genikoterhs antilhchs. Mias genikoterhs antilhchs, h opoia qelei ta problhmata ayta na syzhtoyntai se alloys Organismoys, opws to NATO, h Dytikoeyrwpaikh Enwsh kai oxi sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Eipa kai prin oti sthn Koinothta isxyei h arxh ths monimhs synexoys diapragmateyshs. Isxyei h arxh ths monimhs synexoys pieshs. Kai oson afora th Megalh Bretania, qa prepei kai emeis na exoyme mia synexh epafh kai na askhsoyme synexh piesh se oloys toys tomeis gia na allajei gnwmh.

Kyries kai kyrioi, sas eyxaristw para poly gia to endiaferon sas. Elpizw na edwsa apanthseis sta erwthmata sas kai na dieykrinisa tis proqeseis mas gia toys epomenoys mhnes poy erxontai.