BRIEFING 28-02-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 28.2.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

MAYROS: Briefing den qa ginei ayrio;

REPPAS: Oxi, den qa ginei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia na ton enhmerwsei gia ta tajidia toy;

REPPAS: Exoyn epikoinwnhsei thlefwnikws. To qema ths synanthshs toys einai qema anoixto pantote. Yparxei epikoinwnia kai synergasia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa dwsei prin synenteyjh kai meta qa paei na ton enhmerwsei, to meshmeri;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti exei yparjei enhmerwsh dia ths epikoinwnias, h opoia einai monimh kai synexhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lew ...

REPPAS: Milhsate gia enhmerwsh, den milhsate gia synanthsh. Eipate sthn arxh an qa ton synanthsei kai sas eipa oti einai anoixto qema. Kai otan milhsate gia enhmerwsh, sas eipa oti enhmerwsh exei ginei. Enhmerwsh den yparxei mono dia ths synanthsews.

SOYGLERHS: Ton Proedro toy PASOK k. Andrea Papandreoy qa ton episkefqei na ton enhmerwsei o k. Shmiths;

REPPAS: Ki ayto qa ginei sto epomeno diasthma. Me ton k. Papandreoy exei epikoinwnia o k. Shmiths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote toy thlefwnhse gia teleytaia fora;

REPPAS: Shmera.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Shmera;

REPPAS: Asfalws. Asfalws kai exoyn epikoinwnia thlefwnikh. Sas parakalw, exoyme kat'epanalhch pei oti yparxei ayth h epikoinwnia. Mhn kanei entypwsh otan anaferoyme oti yparxei ayth h epikoinwnia. Yparxei epikoinwnia. Yparxei antallagh apocewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To "kaqe mera" opws to lete, einai san na yparxei kaqe mera epikoinwnia.

REPPAS: Den eipa "kaqe mera". Einai sthn politikh praktikh synhqes na yparxei ayth h epikoinwnia. Sthn politikh praktikh poy akoloyqei o k. Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi'ayto rwtame gia ton k. Papandreoy giati einai ligo dyskolh h epikoinwnia.

REPPAS: H epikoinwnia einai para poly eykolh, kaq'oti yparxoyn ta trichfia thlefwna kai texnikws einai efikth h epikoinwnia. H beltiwsh ths ygeias toy Andrea Papandreoy epitrepei epishs, estw kai gia periorismeno xroniko diasthma, na epikoinwnei me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai einai panta xara toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai toy Proedroy toy PASOK na syzhtoyn kai na antallassoyn apoceis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati ton teleytaio kairo exei epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo, phge kai ton eide o k. Tsoxatzopoylos. Meta phge o k. Arsenhs kai ton enhmerwse gia ta eqnika qemata...

REPPAS: Ayto einai h kalyterh pistopoihsh oti beltiwnetai pragmatika h katastash ths ygeias toy Ellhna politikoy, toy Proedroy toy PASOK.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos giati den phge kai den exei amesh epafh mazi toy;

REPPAS: Asfalws qa paei. O k. Prwqypoyrgos exei epikoinwnia me ton Proedro toy PASOK kai qa exoyn kai synanthsh. To eipame ayto.

SOYGLERHS: Yphrje synanthsh toy k. Pagkaloy me ton epitimo Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias ton k. Mhtsotakh. Poios zhthse ayth th synanthsh kai ti eipwqhke;

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos exei edw kai kairo -prepei na einai gnwsto ayto- apeyqynei prosklhsh pros ola ta kommata oti einai sth diaqesh toys na ta enhmerwsei kai na probei se syzhthseis gia ta eqnika qemata. Sthn prosklhsh ayth antapokriqhke, me dikh toy prwtoboylia ayth th fora, o k. Mhtsotakhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den einai komma o k. Mhtsotakhs.

REPPAS: O k. Mhtsotakhs zhthse na exei ayth thn epikoinwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo to ena, allo to allo.

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn den eixe kanena logo na toy thn arnhqei. Ayto den aresei isws ston k. Ebert, alla an o k. Mhtsotakhs qewrei oti se kati exei na eisferei s'ayth thn eqni kh ypoqesh, h apoch toy akoygetai.

GARGALAKOS: Eseis pws sxoliazete thn apoch poy ejefrase o k. Mhtsotakhs;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw thn apoch poy ejefrase o k. Mhtsotakhs stis syzhthseis aytes. Gnwrizw oti o k. Mhtsotakhs exei edw kai para poly kairo diatypwsei mia qesh, h opoia einai symfwnh me th qesh h grammh thn opoia exei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Kai sth grammh ayth, prepei na pw, deila sthn arxh, alla staqerws sth synexeia brisketai kai h Nea Dhmokratia. Kai den katanow tis ekrhjeis ths Neas Dhmokratias gia epimeroys xeirismoys, otan h basikh politikh ths grammh sto eqniko qema einai poly konta, gia na mhn pw peripoy taytoshmh me ayth ths Kybernhshs.

MAYROS: Synebh akribws to antiqeto. Egine "polybolo" anti ...

GARGALAKOS: Qa xarakthrizate ypeyqynh th stash toy k. Mhtsotakh sta eqnika qemata;

REPPAS: Qa xarakthriza th stash toy k. Mhtsotakh ws stash h opoia ekfrazei to endiaferon poy exei o k. Mhtsotakhs gia ta qemata ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den aresei ston k. Ebert. Poy to jerete eseis;

REPPAS: Lew "isws", den eipa "den", kathgorhmatika. Mia ypoqesh ekana.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den aresei ston k. Ebert ...

REPPAS: Lew "isws den aresei ayto ston k. Ebert", giati katalabainw oti dhmioyrgei mia enoxlhsh sthn hgesia ths Neas Dhmokratias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws to jerete; Exete kapoio prohgoymeno;

REPPAS: Qelete na antallajoyme roloys kai na sas rwthsw egw ean dhmioyrgei enoxlhsh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lew, egine kapoia parembash ston k. Pagkalo na mhn ton dexqei;

REPPAS: Kammia parembash den egine. Giati o k. Pagkalos den einai eyepiforos se tetoioy eidoys parembaseis allwste.

POLITHS: Me ton Prwqypoyrgo eixe kapoia epikoinwnia o k. Mhtsotakhs to mhna poy perase;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na eixe epikoinwnia. Oxi.

POLITHS: Gia thn epikoinwnia poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Proedro toy PASOK shmera, kyriolektoysate h htan sxhma logoy;

REPPAS: Nai. H apanthsh ayth htan kyriolektikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios phre thn prwtoboylia;

REPPAS: Phre thn prwtoboylia o k. Prwqypoyrgos kai epikoinwnhse me ton Proedro toy PASOK.

POLITHS: Ti eipwqhke akribws;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti exoyn epikoinwnhsei. Metefere toys xairetismoys twn jenwn hgetwn, poy synanthse o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos pros ton Andrea Papandreoy kai sto plaisio ayto antallajan sto mikro xroniko diasthma poy dihrkesan oi thlefwnikes epikoinwnies kai kapoies apoceis gia ta trexonta qemata.

GARGALAKOS: Gnwrizete an h Kybernhsh protiqetai na beltiwsei thn oikonomikh katastash twn xamhlosyntajioyxwn;

REPPAS: Kyrie Gargalako, eipa hdh oti einai se ejelijh h synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Ypoyrgeio Ergasias kai to Proedreio ths GSEE sto plaisio toy koinwnikoy dialogoy, o opoios qa katalhjei se mia sygkekrimenh politikh gia th beltiwsh ths qesews twn xamhlosynta- jioyxwn, alla kai allwn kathgoriwn xamhloeisodhmatiwn.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn Kybernhsh gia tis ekloges stoys Dikhgorikoys Syllogoys ths xwras;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh parakoloyqei me endiaferon tis ekloges s'ena episthmoniko Swmateio, me to kyros poy exei o Dikhgorikos Syllogos se kaqe perioxh. Ta apotelesmata ayta, pisteyw oti antapokrinontai stis protimhseis twn idiwn twn Dikhgorwn. Oi ekloges einai mia dhmokratikh diadikasia thn opoia timoyme kai ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn aytwn einai apo mas sebasta.

FILHS: Egrafh stis efhmerides -kai den einai gegonos poy periorizetai se mia eparxiakh polh- oti o Mhtropoliths Konitshs kata thn episkech poy ekane o Proedros ths Dhmokratias ekei, ferqhke kata anoikeio tropo ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias. (den akoygetai) exei omws shmasia oti prospaqhse o Mhtropoliths Konitshs na synexisei thn paradosh toy makarith toy Sebastianoy kai na qesei oroys gia thn askhsh ejwterikhs politikhs ths Ellados enanti ths Albanias. Yparxei kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: To sxolio einai oti thn ejwterikh politikh ths Ellados thn askei h Kybernhsh kai mono h Kybernhsh.

KIAOS: O Mhtropoliths Konitshs me anakoinwsh dikh toy, me thn opoia apanta se apofash toy Dhmotikoy Symboylioy ths polews xrhsimopoiei xarakthrismoys kai ekfraseis gia ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, poy den mporw na epanalabw. Mporw na sas ta diabasw an den ta exete ypoch sas...

REPPAS: Na moy epitrecete, epeidh antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas, na pw poly apla to ejhs: Oti tetoioy eidoys ekfraseis tis katadikazoyme, otan proerxontai apo opoiondhpote kai apeyqynontai se opoiondhpote. Poly perissotero tis katadikazoyme otan proerxontai apo enan Mhtropolith kai apeyqynontai ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

MAYROS: H toyrkikh pleyra qriambologei gia thn anakoinwsh toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn. Qewreite dikailoghmenes h adikaiologhtes aytes tis qriambologies;

REPPAS: Gia na xrhsimopoihsw mia lejh poy kai eseis thn xrhsimopoihsate, qewrw dikaiologhmenh aplws thn entypwsh poy yparxei gia thn toyrkikh propaganda. H kyria Tsiler qriambologei xwris na yparxei ereisma gi'aythn thn qriambologia. Pisteyw oti anti na apeilei h na komporrhmonei, en prokeimenw, qa prepei na pacei na exei apexqeia pros to Dieqnes Dikaio h kyria Tsiler. Na pacei na katexetai apo to agxos gia na ejasfalisei thn paramonh ths sthn Prwqypoyrgia ths xwras ths. Kai epiteloys, na akoloyqhsei to dromo pros thn Eyrwph, poy einai o dromos toy sebasmoy pros to Dieqnes Dikaio kai ths prosfyghs sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs gia opoia qemata qewrei oti prepei na antimetwpisqoyn en sxesei me thn Ellada.

MAYROS: Epishs, me dhlwseis ths, pros Italoys kai Toyrkoys dhmosiografoys, xqes sth Rwmh h kyria Tsiler dhmioyrghqhke h entypwsh oti eqese kai qema kapoiwn diekdikhsewn toyrkikwn sth Qrakh kai genikotera sto Delta toy Ebroy;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia qettei, kata kairoys, diafora problhmata sto plaisio ths ejwterikhs politikhs poy askei, poy pisteyoyme oti einai mia ejwterikh politikh poy ojynei tis sxeseis me thn Ellada kai den bohqaei sthn anaptyjh eilikrinwn kai filikwn sxesewn synergasias. Ayto to lambanoyme sobarws ypoch. H Kybernhsh antimetwpizei aythn thn proklhtikh politikh, pisteyoyme, apotelesmatika. Kai einai kairos kai oi filoi mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, alla kai oi alles xwres na antilhfqoyn oti h politikh ayth ths Toyrkias einai mia politikh epikindynh, thn opoia prepei me synolikh apanthsh na antimetwpisoyme ws Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KAKABAS: Pws krinei h Kybernhsh ta apotelesmata, poy kata thn toyrkikh pleyra, ths episkechs Tsiler sth Rwmh, htan para poly qetika;

REPPAS: Pisteyw, opws apanthsa kai prin, oti den yparxei ereisma gia tetoioy eidoys qriambologies h xarakthrismoys peri qetikwn apotelesmatwn. Allwste, qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti h Italikh Proedria poy etoimazei kai thn Diakybernhtikh, exei ginei gnwsto, oti dexetai pws h Kypros kai h Malta qa enhmerwnontai kaqe dimhno gia thn proodo twn ergasiwn ths Diakybernhtikhs, enw h Toyrkia den exei labei kan apanthsh se aithma to opoio exei ypobalei, wste na exei kapoioy eidoys symmetoxh sto plaisio ths Diakybernhtikhs. Allwste, pisteyw, ws apohxo kai ths xqesinhs syzhthshs mas - mias kai anaferqhkate sthn Italia - prepei na epishmanw tis dhlwseis poy ekane h kyria Anieli, h opoia leei oti h anakoinwsh, h dhlwsh ths Italikhs Proedrias einai dhlwsh poy desmeyei kai toys "15" af'enos, alla kai tis dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Ban nter Mproyk, oti exei politikh shmasia ayto to keimeno, giati einai ena keimeno poy ekfrazei thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai thn katanohsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs pros thn pleyra ths Ellados.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Yparxoyn dhmosieymata ston Typo, oti h kyria Tsiler ejasfalise prosklhsh gia na parakoloyqhsei tis ergasies ths Diakybernhtikhs. Exoyme tipota ep'aytoy;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kammia tetoia prosklhsh. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Exei perielqei sthn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh kapoia ekfrash dysareskeias apo th Rwsikh Orqodojh Ekklhsia sxetika me (den akoygetai).

REPPAS: Kammia ekfrash dysareskeias. Allwste, o idios o Patriarxhs Alejios diatypwse th qesh oti oi sxeseis me to Patriarxeio ths Kwnstantinoypolews einai adelfikes. Sxeseis eilikrinoys synergasias.

FILHS: Qelw na qesw ena qema tajhs gia th leitoyrgia toy briefing. Den qa hqela na anaferw paradeigmata, den exei nohma. Den einai dynaton na allazoyn erwthseis kai apanthseis poy ginontai dhmosia kata thn apomagnhtofwnhsh toy briefing.

REPPAS: Exete apolyto dikio, symfwnw apolytws. Den jerw omws se ti anaferesqe.

FILHS: Ws kanwn to lew.

REPPAS: Symfwnw apolytws. An exete kati sygkekrimeno, parakalw na to anaferete edw, dhmosiws.

FILHS: Den qelw na doqei synexeia...

REPPAS: Kyrie Filh, symfwnw apolytws. An exete kati sygkekrimeno na anaferete, parakalw na to kanete edw kai twra, dhmosiws.

FILHS: Den exei toso nohma (den akoygetai). Symfwnoyme ...

REPPAS: H desmeysh einai safhs kai kathgorhmatikh. Parakalw kai pali, ean yparxei kati sygkekrimeno to opoio yponoeite, na to anaferete edw. Ti einai to qema; Peite mas, kyrie Filh.

FILHS: Den akoygetai.

REPPAS: Qelete na ta qesete edw; Sth dhmosia syzhthsh mas;

FILHS: Den exei nohma twra na kanoyme dikasthrio to briefing. Aloimono!

REPPAS: H wra toy briefing paramenei h idia; Qelete mhpws na thn metakinhsoyme; Na pame pio prwi isws;

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Oxi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An mporoyn isws na ftiaxtoyn oi mikrofwnikes egkatastaseis giati etsi yparxei problhma sthn eggrafh twn erwthsewn kai ara sthn apomagnhtofwnhsh.

KARELIAS: Oxi, egw diafwnw, giati qa exoyme meta agoreyseis apo katw.

KAKABAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayrio kanonika briefing;

REPPAS: Ayrio, stis 11.00, exei synenteyjh o Prwqypoyrgos. Qelete na kanoyme kai briefing meta;

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Oxi, oxi.

REPPAS: Sas eyxaristw poly.