BRIEFING 19-02-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 19.2.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias; Exei kairo na ton episkefqei;

REPPAS: H synanthsh toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Proedro ths Dhmokratias ginetai en ocei toy epikeimenoy tajidioy toy se eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kai mia dejiwsh apoce toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

REPPAS: Ayto sas einai gnwsto. Apoce, stis 19.30, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa paraqesei dejiwsh, sto Proedriko Megaro, pros timhn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: O Prwqypoyrgos sxediazei, programmatizei episkech sto Patriarxeio;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tipota poy na exei programmatisqei ayth thn wra. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Yparxoyn sxetika dhmosieymata se kyriakatikes efhmerides.

REPPAS: Den sxoliazw ta dhmosieymata, giati ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme kai qetete eseis thn erwthsh, den yparxei tetoia apofash kai tetoio programma.

PARHS: Exei gnwstopoihqei h "atzenta" twn synomiliwn toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Germano Kagkellario; Kai an nai, o k. Shmiths qa qesei qema germanikwn apozhmiwsewn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa - kai epanerxomai - oti to tajidi ayto toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai to prwto poy pragmatopoiei stis jenes xwres. Qa exei mia prwth syzhthsh gnwrimias kai synergasias me toys jenoys hgetes. Kai bebaiws, sta plaisia aytwn twn syzhthsewn, qa teqoyn ola ta dimerh qemata. Asfalws, qa exoyn idiaiterh qesh ta qemata poy aforoyn sthn prosfath ellhnotoyrki- kh krish, sth qesh ths Ellados sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Alla bebaiws - opws katalabainete - aytoy toy eidoys oi episkeceis kai synanthseis kai syzhthseis epekteinontai kai se alla qemata, ta opoia qetoyn oi dyo pleyres. Einai anoixta ayta ta qemata.

GARGALAKOS: H Nea Dhmokratia exei qesei ypo amfisbhthsh to porisma sxetika me to elikoptero. Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo pleyras sas;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h apanthsh poy edwse h Kybernhsh, htan apanthsh safestath, antapokrinomenh sta pragmata. Apanthsh eilikrinhs kai ypeyqynh. H Nea Dhmokratia me th stash ths kai tis dhlwseis ths, den staqhke sto idio ycos. Pisteyoyme pws to laqos ayto ths Neas Dhmokratias prepei na einai to teleytaio gia to kalo toy topoy. Kai epiteloys einai mia eykairia - afoy ayto to qema ekleise - h Nea Dhmokratia na epanejetasei thn taktikh kai strathgikh ths, wste na epanelqei o dhmosios bios se mia antallagh apocewn me tropo nhfalio kai dhmokratiko, me xamhloys kai ypeyqynoys tonoys, giati ayto epiballoyn to symferon ths patridas mas kai h omalh leitoyrgia twn dhmokratikwn qesmwn.

FILHS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio ek meroys ths Kybernhsews gia to arqro twn NEW YORK TIMES me ta toso qetika sxolia gia ton k. Shmith kai thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti einai eyxaristo, oxi mono gia to komma mas kai gia thn Kybernhsh, alla gia oloklhrh thn Ellada, to oti mia megaloy kyroys kai kykloforias efhmerida anaferetai me epainetika logia ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Ayto pisteyoyme oti pistopoiei pws h diplwmatikh ekstrateia thn opoia exei jekinhsei h Ellada, apodidei shmantikoys karpoys kai ginetai mia anagnwrish qesewn, tis opoies h Ellada exei ekfrasei. Pragma to opoio qewroyme pws dikaiwnei thn politikh ths Kybernhshs.

GARGALAKOS: Ta apotelesmata, etsi opws proekycan, apo tis diadikasies ths Neolaias toy PASOK, mhpws, kyrie Ekproswpe, dysxerainoyn thn eswkommatikh qesh toy k. Shmith;

REPPAS: Para to oti den qa eprepe na sxoliasw diadikasies enos kommatikoy organoy (h Neolaia PASOK einai neolaia toy kommatos to opoio sthrizei thn Kybernhsh, poy einai Kybernhsh toy PASOK), gi'ayto loipon estw kai kaq'yperbash qa pw oti prepei oloi na ekfrasoyme thn ikanopoihsh mas gia to oti h Neolaia me dhmokratikes diadikasies anedeije th nea hgesia ths. Kai pisteyoyme oti etsi qa sygkrothsei kalytera tis dynameis ths, wste na syneisferei sthn prospaqeia poy kanei to PASOK me aixmh bebaiws thn Kybernhsh toy, gia na feroyme kalyteres meres s'ayto ton topo.

FILHS: Shmera, kyrie Ypoyrge, jekinhse h tetrahmerh apergia twn ergazomenwn ston OTE kai thn Pempth exoyme thn apergiakh kinhtopoihsh ths GSEE. Qa hqela ena sxolio, giati s'aytes tis kinhtopoihseis prwtostatoyn kai paizoyn kaqoristiko rolo stelexh proerxomena kai anhkonta ston kybernhtiko xwro, sto kybernwn komma. Pws sxoliazei h Kybernhsh ayth thn antidrash poy yparxei kai apo pleyras syndikalistwn ths PASKE;

REPPAS: Prwta-prwta, tetoioy eidoys fainomena den qa prepei na prokaloyn idiaiterh entypwsh se mia xwra dhmokratikh kai se ena komma to opoio leitoyrgei dhmokratika. Peran toytoy, h syzhthsh thn opoia exei h hgesia twn armodiwn Ypoyrgeiwn me toys ergazomenoys ston OTE, pisteyw oti einai mia eilikrinhs syzhthsh. Oi ergazomenoi zhtoyn na yparjei ena sxedio gia thn strathgikh eksygxronismoy kai anaptyjhs toy OTE kai oi problhmatismoi toys h ta aithmata toys - qa moy epitrecete na pw, kyrie Filh - peristrefontai gyrw ap'ayton ton basiko ajona. Oi problhmatismoi aytoi briskoyn - qa elega - se megalo baqmo symfwnh kai thn Kybernhsh, h opoia bebaiws endiaferetai, wste to eksygxronistiko kai anaptyjiako programma toy OTE na to katasthsei akoma pio isxyro kai apotelesmatiko. Kai bebaiws, to nomosxedio to opoio syzhteitai sth Boylh, einai ena nomosxedio to opoio exei pronoies kai ryqmiseis tetoies, poy pisteyw oti einai gia to kalo toy OTE kai oi ergazomenoi se epimeroys ryqmiseis den exoyn kataqesei antiqetes protaseis. An qelete na mpoyme se perissoteres leptomereies, eyxaristws na to kanoyme, alla pisteyw oti h apanthsh ayth poy einai mia apanthsh epi ths arxhs, einai apolytws safhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai giati exoyn mazeytei ejw apo th Boylh kai fwnazoyn, afoy symfwnoyn;

REPPAS: Epanalambanw kai pali, oti oi ergazomenoi toy OTE qewroyn oti etsi prepei na probaloyn tis apoceis toys. Einai sebasto to dikaiwma toys. Akoyme tis apoceis toys. Qewroyme oti me to nomosxedio ejasfalizoyme kata ton kalytero tropo ta symferonta toy OTE kai ths ellhnikhs oikonomias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opote, kyrie Ypoyrge, einai antiqetoi...

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, monimws...

STAMATOPOYLOS: ... einai antiqetoi, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: ... milate xwris na zhtate to logo!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Entajei, mporoyme kai na petagomaste kammia fora! Den einai ekklhsia edw!

REPPAS: Na petagomaste, den exw kammia antirrhsh! Mh mas kathgorhsoyn gia aiqerobamo- nes, omws!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei periptwsh! Synexizw: Gia na einai mazemenoi kai na antidroyn kai na apergoyn kai malista epi tessereis meres, shmainei oti einai antiqetoi me to nomosxedio. Poy to eidate oti symfwnoyn;

REPPAS: Oi ergazomenoi exoyn ekfrasei toys problhmatismoys toys gia th synolikh strathgikh eksygxronismoy kai anaptyjhs toy OTE. Sta plaisia ayths ths synergasias me ta armodia Ypoyrgeia, qa ginei to kalytero dynato. Gia tis epimeroys ryqmiseis poy problepontai apo ayto to nomosxedio, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti exoyn lhfqei ola ta metra, wste h politikh ths Kybernhshs na einai h kalyterh - kai qa yparjei anagnwrish s'ayto, mh biazesqe - gia ton OTE kai thn ellhnikh oikonomia, epanalambanw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, kyrie Ypoyrge, alla den teleiwsa: Den symfwnoyn, pantws, me to nomosxedio, kyrie Ypoyrge. Gia na einai ejw apo th Boylh kai na fwnazoyn, den symfwnoyn.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, na mhn mpoyme s'ayth th syzhthsh, gia enan poly aplo logo: Giati o tropos me ton opoio eseis xrhsimopoieite thn ariqmhtikh sth "zygaria", qa mas odhghsei sto na ejetasoyme an symfwnoyn h oxi kapoioi me to nomosxedio, analogws me to an metexoyn s'ayth thn kinhtopoihsh poy ginetai ejw apo th Boylh. Posoi ergazontai ston OTE kai posoi metexoyn s'aythn thn kinhtopoihsh; Shmainei oti oi alloi symfwnoyn poy den metexoyn; Mh mpoyme s'ayth th syzhthsh. Bebaiws, oi ergazomenoi ekfrazoyn thn antirrhsh toys epi ryqmisewn toy nomosxedioy. Ayto einai anafaireto dikaiwma toys. Parakalw omws na mh qewreite oti syllhbdhn aporriptetai ayth h politikh, logw ths kinhtopoihsews poy eseis lete oti ginetai apo toys ergazomenoys ston OTE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ariqmhtiko einai to qema, dhladh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa hdh, kyrie Stamatopoyle.

FILHS: H Kybernhsh problhmatizetai apo to gegonos oti mia krisimh politikh ths epilogh, opws einai h merikh idiwtikopoihsh toy OTE, synanta antidraseis akomh kai apo tmhmata toy dikoy ths xwroy;

REPPAS: Asfalws einai kati poy mas apasxolei. Qewroyme omws oti sto plaisio ths proergasias poy egine wste na katartistei ayto to nomosxedio, egine to kalytero dynato wste na einai to artiotero poy mporoyse na yparjei nomosxedio, prokeimenoy na petyxoyme to stoxo mas poy einai o eksygxronismos kai h anaptyjh toy OTE.

MAYROS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa antallajei apoceis me ton Proedro toy PASOK k. Andrea Papandreoy sxetika me to tajidi toy se Bryjelles, Bonnh, Parisi;

REPPAS: Kyrie Mayro, den gnwrizw na exei programmatisqei kapoia synanthsh wste na syzhthsoyn, xwris na apokleiw na yparxei epikoinwnia thlefwnikh twn dyo politikwn andrwn.

MAYROS: Den to qewrei anagkaio o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati, to opoio - epanalambanw kai pali - exei na kanei me th monimh synergasia poy exoyn oi dyo politikoi andres. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Yparxei episkech toy k. Mixahlidh; Qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Yparxei tis epomenes hmeres episkech toy k. Mixahlidh, toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn ths Kyproy. Gnwrizw, epeidh akribws exoyme dikh mas synergasia, oti qa episkefqei thn Aqhna o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn ths Kyproy, o k. Mixahlidhs. Einai kai o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Mixahlidhs kai o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Mixahlidhs. Gi' ayto, isws, yparxei ayth h paranohsh.

MIXAHL: Mexri stigmhs h Kybernhsh den exei topoqethqei epishma se osa exoyn grafei to teleytaio diasthma, gia to an dhladh qa qesei h oxi beto sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, gia thn xrhmatodothsh ths Toyrkias apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Isxyei kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Apanthsa kyrie Mixahl kai se prohgoymenh syzhthsh mas. Leipate kai gi' ayto qetete thn erwthsh.

MIXAHL: Epanaferw to qema.

REPPAS: H qesh ths Kybernhshs einai gnwsth oti sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn qa askhsei thn parembatikh ths dynatothta h opoia qa exei sxesh me thn ektamieysh porwn h kondyliwn yper ths Toyrkias epi tw skopw na katadeixqei pws h politikh ths Toyrkias, opws ayth ekdhlwqhke kai me thn prosfath ellhno-toyrkikh krish, den antapokrinetai kai den antistoixei stis desmeyseis poy h Toyrkia anelabe sta plaisia ths telwneiakhs enwshs poy exei symfwnhqei.

MIXAHL: Na epimeinw ligo sthn erwthsh. Den thn kanw tyxaia. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an ayth h qesh ths Kybernhshs einai ametablhth h einai h qesh ths twra prin to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis Eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses.

REPPAS: Einai h qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs k. Mixahl. Exw milhsei pali gi' ayto kai exw pei oti ekeinh thn wra, sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, h Ellada qa kanei to kalytero dynato prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei to problhma kai na ejasfalisei thn epityxia gia toys stoxoys toys opoioys exei qesei.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxoyn kapoies agrotikes kinhtopoihseis. H Kybernhsh qewrei aytes tis kinhtopoihseis dikaiologhmenes h qewrei oti pisw apo aytes krybetai kapoio komma;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh anagnwrizei pws yparxoyn problhmata ston agrotiko tomea. Qa kanei ta panta wste na yposthrijei ta proionta kai thn paragwgh en genei th gewrgikh. Oi kinhtopoihseis aytes, meta th synennohsh poy eixe h hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias me thn hgesia twn agrotwn bainoyn sto telos toys, opws exw plhroforhqei. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxoyn polla problhmata sthn ellhnikh gewrgia ta opoia antimetwpizei to armodio Ypoyrgeio. Sas eyxaristw para poly.