BRIEFING 15-02-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 15.2.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

ELENOPOYLOS: Poios qa einai; Qa mas peite to onoma toy;

REPPAS: Mhn perimenete na anakoinwsw apofash Organoy, to opoio den exei kan synedriasei akomh. Gia ton aploystato logo oti den yparxei ayth h apofash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To Yfypoyrgeio Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy qa ginei;

REPPAS: H qesh ths Kybernhshs epi toy qematos, sas einai gnwsth. Oi armodiothtes toy tomea poy aforoyn ston Apodhmo Ellhnismo, exoyn perielqei ston Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Giwrgo Rwmaio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai oi qeseis twn Apodhmwn, epi toy qematos, einai epishs gnwstes, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Oi qeseis twn Apodhmwn einai gnwstes kai ikanopoioyn thn Kybernhsh, giati symfwnoyn pws to endiaferon ths Kybernhshs einai ameristo gia ta qemata toy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy. Allwste, ayth h Kybernhsh einai poy proxwrhse sth sygkrothsh aytoy toy neoy qesmikoy organoy: toy Symboylioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to SAE pleon einai enas qesmos poy dhmioyrghqhke apo to Yfypoyrgeio Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy.

REPPAS: Kai egw sas lew oti oi drasthriothtes toy Yfypoyrgeioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy den exoyn kat'oydena tropo katarghqei. Oi de armodiothtes poy aforoyn ston Apodhmo Ellhnismo askoyntai apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai askoyntai apotelesmatikws. Ayth einai h qesh ths Kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw: ayto to Yfypoyrgeio to ekane to Symboylio toy Apodhmoy.

REPPAS: To ekane h Kybernhsh, kyrie Stamatopoyle. Ayth einai h politikh ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK gia ta qemata Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy. Kai shmera h Ellhnikh Politeia exei ena koryfaio qesmiko organo ws synergath kai symboylo ths gia ta qemata Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy. Kai ayth einai mia para poly shmantikh kai qetikh ejelijh.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa epimeinete kai shmera oti den yphrxe diapragmateysh stis synanthseis Prwqypoyrgoy - Tsoxatzopoyloy kai Prwqypoyrgoy - Arsenh kai oti apla yphrje mia syzhthsh agasth gia to pws qa prowqhqei to kybernhtiko ergo;

REPPAS: Egw epimenw oti yparxei synergasia kai synennohsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys ths Kybernhshs gia qemata koinoy endiaferontos kai armodiothtas twn Ypoyrgwn, me toys opoioys synergazetai o k. Proedros ths Kybernhshs. Bebaiws, ekfrazontai apoceis epi sygkekrimenoy qematos, oi opoies apoceis syntiqentai kai yparxei pantote h telikh apofash poy einai kai apofash ths Kybernhshs.

KIAOS: Panw sto qema twn armodiothtwn: Exei teleiwsei ayto to qema; Dhladh, toy poies armodiothtes pairnoyn oi Yfypoyrgoi k.lp.;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, den exei lhfqei apofash, gi'ayto akribws to qema ayto einai akomh anoikto. Otan lhfqei apofash, efoson oloklhrwqei h synergasia gia to sygkekrimeno qema toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys, qa sas ginei gnwsth h apofash ayth.

KIAOS: Den anaferomai mono stis xqesines synergasies...

REPPAS: Se ola ta Ypoyrgeia, asfalws. Se ola ta Ypoyrgeia, sas exei anakoinwqei kati pio sygkekrimeno; Oxi. H anakoinwsh ayth qa yparjei, efoson lhfqoyn oi telikes apofaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote qa ginei ayto, kyrie Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Qelete na sas pw hmera;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi hmera. Peripoy. Xronodiagramma, peripoy.

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Oriste, o k. Moyrtzhs.

MOYRTZHS: O k. Shmiths pote prokeitai na ypogracei to Proedriko Diatagma gia thn katanomh twn armodiothtwn twn dyo Yfypoyrgwn (toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs) poy symfwna me orismena dhmosieymata legetai oti arneitai;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Sas eipa kai pali oti ekfrasqhkan apoceis, diatypwqhkan protaseis. Qa yparjei synergasia, wste na yparjei h telikh qesh ths Kybernhshs gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

KACAMPELHS: Ena synafes qema: Alhqeyei oti o k. Laliwths analambanei ayjhmena kaqhkonta se sxesh me thn epikoinwniakh politikh ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, o k. Laliwths einai Ypoyrgos PEXWDE. Kai paramenei afosiwmenos sta kaqhkonta toy, ta opoia askei - qa moy epitrecete na pw - kata poly ikanopoihtiko, qetiko, aristo - qa elega - tropo.

GARGALAKOS: Mhpws sas ton balei Proistameno;

REPPAS: Panta qa hqela na exw Proistameno ton k. Laliwth. Giati egw eimai enas anqrwpos poy dexomai na exw pantote kaloys, ikanoys anqrwpoys kai politikoys Proistamenoys. Tetoia "fetix" egw den exw.

MAYROS: Kaqodhghth;

REPPAS: Oxi kaqodhghtes. Den milhsa gi'ayto, kyrie Mayro. Den exw kanena kaqodhghth. Alla den exw to "fetix" na foboymai na paroysiazomai ws yfistamenos. Tetoia "fetix" egw den exw.

MARDAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sth xqesinh ELEYQEROTYPIA yparxei mia anakoinwsh toy ekproswpoy toy STATE DEPARTMENT toy k. Mperns, poy leei oti h parapomph toy qematos gia ta Imia sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, qa katalhjei se ena symbibasmo. Ayth einai dhlwsh toy k. Mperns ston antapokrith ths efhmeridas k. Dhma. Parakalw na sxoliasete.

REPPAS: Na sxoliasw ayto poy lete. Kai ayto poy lete einai oti o Ekproswpos ths Amerikanikhs Kybernhshs exei ekdosei thn apofash enos Organoy, to opoio oxi mono den exei synedriasei, alla den exei zhthqei kan h sygklhsh toy. Den nomizw oti prepei na probw se opoiodhpote sxolio.

MARDAS: Oti omws h amerikanikh yperdynamh blepei ayth thn prooptikh enos symbibasmoy kai eseis exete prosfata xarakthrisei qetikes tis topoqethseis ths Amerikanikhs Kybernhshs...

REPPAS: Einai gnwsth, safhs kai diatypwmenh kat'epanalhch h qesh ths Ellados oti sebomaste to Dieqnes Dikaio, tis Dieqneis Symfwnies kai qeloyme basei twn kanonwn poy aporreoyn apo to Dieqnes Dikaio na anaptyssontai oi sxeseis metajy twn xwrwn. Apo ekei kai pera, anaferqhkame se organa kai diadikasies oi opoies exoyn synafeia kai sxesh me to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tis Dieqneis Symfwnies. Emeis eidame me qetiko mati th qesh ths Amerikanikhs Kybernhshs. Qewroyme oti einai toso isxyra kai adiaseista ta epixeirhmata mas, wste h qesh mas ayth einai qesh dikaih, einai qesh h opoia prepei na ginei dekth apo oloys osoys lene oti sebontai to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tis Dieqneis Symbaseis. Kai qa moy epitrecete na pw oti eimaste shmera se ena tetoio shmeio, wste na apodeiknyetai ek twn pragmatwn - mia kai einai gnwsth epishs h qesh ths Toyrkias gia to sygkekrimeno qema - oti h Toyrkia den exei kapoio eidiko problhma me thn Ellada. H Toyrkia exei ena geniko problhma me to Dieqnes Dikaio. Kai ayto as to laboyn oloi ypoch.

MARDAS: Ginetai polys logos, kyrie Ypoyrge, gi'ayth th symfwnia apoklimakwshs gyrw apo ta Imia. Qelw na rwthsw: Ta osa symfwnhqhkan einai proforika h exoyn grapto xarakthra; Yparxei keimeno; Kai an yparxei keimeno, qa teqei ypoch twn politikwn Arxhgwn kai ths Boylhs;

REPPAS: Yphrjan xeirismoi poy odhghsan sthn apemplokh twn dynamewn twn dyo pleyrwn, kata th gnwsth krish. Den yparxei kanena allo keimeno.

MARDAS: Den krathqhkan anepishma shmeiwseis gia to ti symfwnhqhke;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena epishmo keimeno, ej oswn gnwrizw. Den yparxei kanena epishmo keimeno.

KACAMPELHS: Eipate oti den yparxei keimeno allo kai meta eipate oti den yparxei epishmo keimeno.

REPPAS: Nai, den yparxei kanena epishmo keimeno.

KACAMPELHS: Keimeno allo, yparxei;

REPPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, den yparxei keimeno.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oi politikes ejelijeis sthn Toyrkia odeyoyn mallon pros ton sxhmatismo Kybernhshs Gilmaz-Ermpakan, dhladh se mia kaqara islamikh Kybernhsh. Erwtw dioti sthn Kypro yparxei megalh anhsyxia: Pws nomizete oti qa ephreasei ta eqnika mas qemata kai idiaitera to Kypriako, o sxhmatismos mias tetoias Kybernhshs sthn Toyrkia;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh mias xwras einai eswteriko problhma ayths ths idias ths xwras. Emeis krinoyme thn kaqe Kybernhsh apo to pws akribws anaptyssei thn politikh ths etsi, wste na ejasfalizei kales sxeseis eilikrinoys filias kai synergasias me th dikh mas xwra. Qa krinoyme loipon ek twn pragmatwn kai apo ta apotelesmata ths politikhs ths kai thn Toyrkikh Kybernhsh.

EYSTAQIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa qelate na sxoliasete th shmerinh dhlwsh toy k. Mhtsotakh, o opoios eipe oti h Ellada den exei kanena logo na mhn apoqarrynei alles xwres na yioqethsoyn th qesh twn HPA, symfwna me thn opoia to qema ths Imias qa htan kalo na lyqei sto Dikasthrio ths Xaghs;

REPPAS: O k. Mhtsotakhs - ej oswn gnwrizw - diatypwse mia qesh h opoia einai - qa elega - sxedon taytoshmh me th qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs. Ayto, bebaiws, mas ikanopoiei giati dieyrynei to metwpo twn politikwn dynamewn ths xwras, oi opoies syntassontai sthn idia qesh. H qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias opws exei ekfrasqei, einai - opws gnwrizete - kapws diaforetikh, arketa diaforetikh qa elega. Alla bebaiws, briskw thn eykairia na pw oti me ikanopoihsh parakoloyqoyme pws en synexeia ths diplwmatikhs drasthriothtas poy exei anaptyjei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh me qetika apotelesmata (opws epishs sas einai gnwsto), o k. Ebert eixe epafes sto ejwteriko kai qewroyme oti ta apotelesmata twn epafwn toy aytwn einai arketa ikanopoihtika. Bebaiws, epishmainw oti to Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma (sto opoio anhkei h Nea Dhmokratia) exei mia kaqoristikh epirroh sthn telikh diatypwsh toy keimenoy toy sxedioy chfismatos toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy. Mia diatypwsh h opoia methllaje th lejh "katadikh" sthn ekfrash "baqeia anhsyxia" h "anhsyxia toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy" gia tis drasthriothtes ths Toyrkias sthn teleytaia krish. Alla pisteyoyme oti yparxoyn dynatothtes na sygkrothsoyme ena arrages metwpo sthn yperaspish twn eqnikwn mas symferontwn. Kai ayto einai kati poy h Kybernhsh to epidiwkei.

MAYROS: Enan problhmatismo na anaptyjw kai egw, kyrie Ypoyrge: Ton qetei h shmerinh ELEYQEROTYPIA, ton yioqetw kai egw kai sas erwtw: Giati o k. Prwqypoyrgos ejhrese th Mosxa apo ton programmatismo twn tajidiwn toy, sto plaisio ths periodeias toy se eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses pros enhmerwsh twn jenwn Kybernhsewn gia ta eqnika mas qemata; Kai ayth thn erwthsh thn ypoballw me dedomeno oti h Rwsia htan h prwth poy espeyse na yposthrijei tis ellhnikes qeseis.

REPPAS: Briskw, kat'arxhn, thn eykairia na epanalabw thn ikanopoihsh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs gia th qesh thn opoia diatypwse to Rwsiko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Qesh h opoia einai akribws symfwnh me th dikh mas. Peran toytoy, gia to sygkekrimeno erwthma sas, exw na pw oti o k. Prwqypoyrgos exei ypoch toy na episkefqei kai alles prwteyoyses, peran twn oswn exei anakoinwqei oti qa episkefqei, prokeimenoy na enhmerwsei tis jenes Kybernhseis gia tis ellhnikes qeseis. Ola ayta, gnwrizete oti apaitoyn mia diplwmatikh proetoimasia kai sto stadio ayto eimaste twra. H Mosxa, asfalws, einai mia apo tis prwteyoyses poy prokeitai na episkefqei ston katallhlotero xrono o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos.

MAYROS: Mhpws thn ejhrese, epeidh h Rwsia brisketai twra se proeklogikh periodo anamenoysa ton neo Proedro ths poy qa prokycei apo tis kalpes;

REPPAS: Oxi, den einai aytos o logos, kyrie Mayro. O k. Prwqypoyrgos hqele na arxisei - kanw ena sxolio aplws - apo thn italikh prwteyoysa, giati, opws gnwrizete, h Italia askei thn Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ayto to ejamhno. Yparxei akomh ekei se ejelijh h diadikasia sxhmatismoy Kybernhshs kai qewrhqhke pws to tajidi ayto den qa htan apotelesmatiko, giati h enhmerwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy prepei na einai baqoys kai oysias, kai oxi h episkech toy na kaqistatai aplws eqimotypikh. Etsi, loipon, to tajidi ayto den egine s'ayto to xrono. Opws loipon kai sth Rwmh, etsi kai sth Mosxa alla kai se alles prwteyoy- ses, qa tajidecei o k. Prwqypoyrgos thn katallhlh stigmh.

GARGALAKOS: Apasxolei thn Kybernhsh qema ayjhshs ths stratiwtikhs qhteias;

REPPAS: Apanthsa xqes kai epanerxomai: H Kybernhsh den antimetwpizei qema ayjhshs ths stratiwtikhs qhteias. Eimai kathgorhmatikos.

GARGALAKOS: Oyte kan to syzhtaei, dhladh;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h Kybernhsh.

FILHS: Xqes eipate, "pros to paron", kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Eipa, "ayth thn wra". Me sygxwreite, eseis thn erwthsh thn kanete fantazomai gia to poia einai h politikh ths Kybernhshs twra.

FILHS: Kai gia to ti apasxolei thn Kybernhsh gia argotera.

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizei tetoio qema h Kybernhsh. Oyte kanei kapoia skech wste na ayjhqei h stratiwtikh qhteia meta apo pente mhnes h meta apo oktw mhnes. H Kybernhsh den antimetwpizei tetoio qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Pagkalos poy shmera to prwi synanthqhke me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, dhlwse pro oligoy stoys dhmosiografoys oti stis 20 - 22/3 o k. Stefanopoylos qa episkefqei ta Tirana. Me dedomenh th xronikh ayth stigmh, qa hqela ena sxolio apo kybernhtikhs pleyras. Ektima h Kybernhsh oti qa yparjei kai mia politikh "Anoijh" stis ellhno-albanikes sxeseis;

REPPAS: Egw pisteyw oti h Kybernhsh toy PASOK exei kanei shmantika bhmata sthn enisxysh twn sxesewn filias kai synergasias me thn Albania. Nomizw oti yparxoyn periqwria peraiterw beltiwshs aytwn twn sxesewn. Qewroyme oti oi sxeseis aytes mporoyn na anaptyxqoyn sto aristo dynato epipedo efoson kai h Kybernhsh ths Albanias sebetai ta dikaiwmata ths ellhnikhs meionothtas h opoia zei ekei. Kai emeis qa kanoyme o,tidhpote pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, wste na enisxyqoyn kai oi desmoi ths filias kai ths synergasias me thn Albania sth bash mias swsths antimetwpishs twn qematwn poy apasxoloyn th meionothta sthn Albania.

MOYRTZHS: O k. Mpehs xqes amfisbhthse to ex officio dikaiwma toy Prwqypoyrgoy na prosfygei se prowres ekloges. Ena sxolio parakalw.

REPPAS: Den nomizw na amfisbhthse o k. Mpehs o,tidhpote. O k. Prwqypoyrgos einai Prwqypoyrgos ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK. Kai bebaiws, h Kybernhsh toy PASOK einai Organo to opoio leitoyrgei me bash to Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys. O,tidhpote loipon einai symfwno me to Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys mas briskei symfwnoys kai emas. Den exoyme tipote allo na diatypwsoyme ws sxolio.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to gegonos oti ena diakekrimeno stelexos toy kybernwntos kommatos, analambanei thn prwtoboylia na qesei - me idiomorfo estw tropo - qema gia syzhthsh poy afora tis prowres ekloges, den problhmatizei thn Kybernhsh, ti politika apotelesmata exei ayth h prwtoboylia toy k. Mpeh;

REPPAS: Yparxoyn stelexh toy PASOK ta opoia kat' epanalhch exoyn diatypwsei tis proswpikes toys apoceis. Emeis, den exoyme kanena logo na diatypwsoyme sxolia epi twn proswpikwn apocewn poy kaqe fora ekferontai. Exoyme omws kaqe logo na kanoyme safh th qesh ths Kybernhshs. Kai h qesh ths Kybernhshs sas einai gnwsth.

FILHS: Den dyskoleyei to ergo ths Kybernhshs mia syzhthsh apo stelexh toy PASOK gia to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn;

REPPAS: Ma, an poyme oti prokyptoyn problhmata apo thn anaptyjh tetoiwn syzhthsewn h th diatypwsh tetoiwn protasewn, qa prepei na odhghqoyme gia na ta antimetwpisoyme, kata th gnwmh sas, sto allo akro kai na apagoreysoyme thn ekfrash opoiasdhpote apochs. Den prokeitai na to kanoyme ayto. Kaqe apoch mporei na ekfrazetai eleyqera eis thn Ellada. Eimaste yper ayths ths qeshs. Kai h Kybernhsh exei th dikh ths apoch kai thn ekfrazei me logoys kai me prajeis.

KACAMPELHS: Anejarthta apo ayto poy leei o k. Mpehs, kata th gnwmh ths Kybernhsews, h apoch oti gia thn prowrh prosfygh se ekloges xreiazetai gnwmh kai ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados toy ekastote kybernwntos kommatos, symbadizei me tis diatajeis toy Syntagmatos;

REPPAS: To Syntagma exei rhtes diatajeis alla en pash periptwsei ayth thn wra den qa mpoyme se mia tetoia syzhthsh gia ena poly aplo logo: H Kybernhsh, den antimetwpizei kaqoloy qema prowrwn eklogwn.

MARDAS: Xqes h Epitroph Deontologias toy PASOK eishghqhke mia peiqarxikh poinh se dyo boyleytes toy PASOK epeidh den chfisan tis Programmatikes Dhlwseis ths Kybernhshs. Pws to sxoliazei h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh sebetai tis apofaseis poy pairnoyn Kommatika Organa. Kai den exei kanena logo na sxoliasei epi ths oysias tis apofaseis aytes. Aplws, egw shmeiwnw oti h apofash ayth htan omofwnh.

MARDAS: Eipate prohgoymenws, oti h Kybernhsh sthrizetai apo to PASOK kai leitoyrgei sta plaisia toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw, den sas enoxlei ayth h antifash to oti oi boyleytes epikaloyntai to arqro peri aperioristoy gnwmhs kai chfoy, toy Syntagmatos. Den einai eikona anitsyntagmatikh ayth h poinh poy epiballei ena Kommatiko Organo;

REPPAS: Den qelw na to sxoliasw. Aplws, mono mporw na pw oti me th dikh sas logikh, epekteinontas thn, mporw na bgalw to symperasma oti oi boyleytes, aytoi poy einai toy PASOK den qeloyn na sthrijoyn mia Kybernhsh poy einai toy PASOK, opws eseis th xarakthrisate epishs.

FILHS: Eixa qesei mia erwthsh proxqes, ean o k. Prwqypoyrgos sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Kol qa qesei qema germanikwn apozhmiwsewn.

REPPAS: To qema toy katoxikoy daneioy einai ena allo qema apo to qema twn apozhmiwsewn se idiwtes.

FILHS: Kai ta dyo.

REPPAS: Ola ta qemata einai anoikta. Qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata. To qema bebaia twn apozhmiwsewn se idiwtes einai ena qema to opoio exei parei to dikastiko dromo me prwtoboylia twn oswn exoyn qixqei. Nomizw oti h Kybernhsh apo thn allh, to qema toy katoxikoy daneioy exei ypoch ths na to syzhthsei giati ek twn pragmatwn exei teqei ws ena qema poy afora tis Kybernhseis twn dyo xwrwn.

KARASABBA: O k. Pagkalos eipe oti den qa syzhthqei ayto to qema.

REPPAS: Poio qema;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Toy katoxikoy daneioy.

REPPAS: Einai allo to qema twn apozhmiwsewn, allo to qema toy daneioy.

FILHS: Toy daneioy;

REPPAS: Koitajte, ola ta qemata ek twn pragmatwn exoyn teqei. H syzhthsh poy qa exei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, qa afora opws katalabainete, idiaiterws thn probolh twn ellhnikwn qesewn en sxesh me thn prosfath ellhno-toyrkikh krish. Apo ekei kai pera, opoia qemata teqoyn kai apo thn allh pleyra, emeis qa ta syzhthsoyme.

MAYROS: Sthn Krhth proxqes katateqhkan 696 agwges gia apozhmiwseis. Einai panellhnio to fainomeno. Sth Boiwtia yparxei epishs megalos ariqmos apo tetoies agwges. Anamenontai apofaseis twn ellhnikwn dikasthriwn. Qa tis yposthrijei politika h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh qewrei oti einai dikaiwma twn Ellhnwn politwn na yperaspi- stoyn symferonta dika toys ta opoia qewroyn oti exoyn qigei. Kai profanws blepei me qetiko mati thn opoia dikaiwsh twn prosfygwn aytwn efoson diapistwqei - apo sygkekrimeno omws organo poy exei epi toytois armodiothta - oti pragmati exoyn qigei polites kai prepei na dikaiwqoyn.

MAYROS: Stis apofaseis twn dikasthriwn anaferomai. An qa tis yposthrijei politika h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Opoia einai apofash toy dikasthrioy gia mas qa einai mia sebasth apofash. An exoyme teleiwsei, na sas pw oti ayrio meta thn enhmerwsh qa hqela na pioyme ena poto mazi kai na syzhthsoyme ligo, mia kai kleinoyme ena mhna peripoy. Sas eyxaristw poly.