[01] Rompai: ``To mellon sas sthn Eyrwzwnh'' - Samaras: ``Oi antoxes mas sta oria''

``Nomizw oti o ellhnikos laos ekane qarralees epiloges gia thn qesh ths Elladas sthn EE kai sthn eyrwzwnh. Eixa thn diabebaiwsh oti o kybernhtikos synaspismos qa proxwrhsei me thn dhmosionomikh ejygiansh kai tis metarryqmiseis. Oi prospaqeies me thn meiwsh toy elleimmatos prepei na synexistoyn parallhla me tis metarryqmiseis kai prepei na spasoyn ta monopwlia kai ta katesthmena symferonta'' dhlwse o k. Rompai.

Epishmane thn anagkh parallhla me thn meiwsh toy dhmosionomikoy elleimmatos na yparjei koinwnikh dikaiosynh wste ekeinoi poy exoyn perissotera na shkwsoyn to megalytero baros. Ejefrase de thn bebaiothta oti ``me thn parodo toy xronoy to programma dhmosionomikhs staqerothtas qa apodwsei sthn oikonomia kai sthn dhmosia dioikhsh''.

Ekleise diabebaiwnontas oti ``ola ta organa kai ta krath melh qa sthrijoyn thn Ellada. Gia ekeinoys poy amfiballoyn toys qymizw oti egkriname bohqeia 240 dis. eyrw''. O k. Rompai shmeiwse oti h krish den einai mono ellhnikh kai oti xreiazomaste kai syllogikh drash pera apo tis energeies twn kratwn melwn. Epishmane oti oi eyrwpaikoi qesmoi kanoyn oti mporoyn gia thn xrhmatopistwtikh staqerothta kai edwse emfash sthn apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas gia thn agora kratikwn omologwn. Telos anefere oti oles oi xwres prepei na exoyn diarqrwtikes allages kai diabebaiwse oti den tiqetai en amfibolw h akeraiothta ths eyrwzwnhs.

O prwqypoyrgos Antwnhs Samaras anefere oti enhmerwse ton proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy gia tis megales epimones kai epipones prospaqeies toy ellhnikoy laoy na anakthqei h ajiopistia ths xwras kai na einai synephs stis ypoxrewseis ths. ``Tonisa thn anagkh gia egkairh apodesmeysh ths doshs toy daneioy poy qa kateyqynqei sto eswteriko gia na enisxyqei h reystothta kai na anaqermanqei h oikonomia'' anefere o prwqypoyrgos kai prosqese oti h anakamch einai krisimhs shmasias kaqws oi antoxes toy ellhnikoy laoy exoyn fqasei sta oria toys kai oi qysies toys prepei na piasoyn topo.

Synexise legontas oti paroysiase ston k. Rompai to dieyrymeno programma twn apokratikopoihsewn kai eqese to qema twn dhlwsewn sto ejwteriko gia thn paramonh ths Elladas sthn eyrwzwnh poy dyskoleyoyn thn prospaqeia ths xwras. Shmeiwse pantws oti ayto exei allajei shmantika kai eyxaristhse ton proedro gia tis dikes dhlwseis.

Eipe akomh o prwqypoyrgos oti ``toy milhsa gia thn syrriknwsh ths oikonomias kai gia thn anergia'' kai prosqese oti h politikh toy proteraiothta einai h anaptyjh kai h dhmioyrgia qesewn ergasias.

Ayrio Sabbato, o prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sthn Qessalonikh opoy qa egkainiasei thn Dieqnh Ekqesh. Thn Kyriakh stis 7:00 mm qa exei syskech me toys dyo politikoys arxhgoys k.k. Eyaggelo Benizelo kai Fwth Koybelh opoy qa syzhthqei to paketo twn metrwn enw thn Deytera stis 11.45 qa dexqei toys ekproswpoys ths Troikas kai thn Trith qa tajideysei sthn Frankfoyrth opoy qa exei synanthsh me ton proedro ths EKT k. Mario Ntragki.

Sxetikes Eidhseis : A. Samaras - X.B. Rompai: Karpoforos syzhthsh - syllogikh drash

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[02] A. Samaras - X.B. Rompai: Karpoforos syzhthsh - syllogikh drash

Antwnhs Samaras: ``Eixa thn xara na enhmerwsw ton k. proedro gia tis epimones kai epipones prospaqeies poy kanoyme gia na anakthsoyme thn ajiopistia ths xwras mas. Stoxeyoyme sthn egkairh apodesmeysh ths doshs kai malista pros to eswteriko ths xwras, poy thn exoyme anagkh gia na tonwqei h reystothta. Ayto ginetai pio shmantiko meta kai th xqesinh apofash ths EKT. H anakamch ths ellhnikhs oikonomias einai krisimhs shmasias gia na epiteyxqei h anaptyjh. Oi antoxes twn Ellhnwn exoyn ftasei sta oria toys kai oi qysies prepei na piasoyn topo. Politikh mas einai h yfesh na anakopei kai h anergia na meiwqei.Ton eyxaristhsa gia tis prosektikes dhlwseis poy ekane panta gia th xwra mas. Toy paroysiasa to sygkekrimeno programma apokratikopoihsewn''.

Xerman ban Rompai: ``Eixa makra kai karpoforo syzhthsh gia thn oikonomikh katastash sthn Ellada. Merikoi amfiballoyn alla nomizw oti o ellhnikos laos exei kanei qarralees epiloges kai o prwqypoyrgos me diabebaiwse oti o kybernhtikos synaspismos kataballei tis apaitoymenes prospaqeies, poy prepei na synexistoyn kai na spasoyn ta katesthmena symferonta, na yparjei koinwnikh dikaiosynh. Me diabebaiwse oti qa proxwrhsoyn me dhmosionomikh ejygiansh kai metarryqmiseis. Ayto apaitei shmantikes prospaqeies poy arxisan me shmantikh meiwsh elleimmatos kata th diarkeia twn dyo teleytaiwn etwn. prepei na yparjei koinwnikh dikaiosynh. aytoi poy exoyn ta perissotera qa prepei na feroyn kai to megalytero baros. H anadiarqrwsh ths oikonomias einai epiponh kai dyskolh kai prepei na yparjei prooptikh gia qeseis ergasias. Ypenqymizw oti egkriname 240 ekat. bohqeias kai h EKT exei agorasei poly ellhniko xreos kai me bohqeia aytoy toy programmatos exoyme diapragmateytei ekatommyria meiwshs xreoys se idiwtes daneistes. Eimai pepeismenos oti to programma ayto qa epiferei apotelesmata. H shmerinh krish den einai mono ellhnikh, gi ayto xreiazomaste syllogikh drash''.

Sxetikh eidhsh: Synanthsh Samara - Rompai sto megaro Majimoy

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[03] Synanthsh Samara - Rompai sto megaro Majimoy

Sthn Aqhna ftanoyn kai oi epikefalhs ths troikas gia thn oloklhrwsh twn elegxwn sto ellhniko oikonomiko programma. Thn Kyriakh qa pragmatopoihqei h syskech twn politikwn arxhgwn, enw liges wres nwritera qa exei prohghqei h synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn me toys ekproswpoys twn daneistwn, prokeimenoy na kleisoyn ta metra twn 11,5 dis. eyrw.

O Antwnhs Samaras qa dextei thn Deytera toys epikefalhs ths troikas kai thn Trith qa metabei sthn Frankfoyrth gia th synanthsh me ton proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, Mario Ntragki.

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[04] K. Poylakhs: H ellhnikh koinwnia brisketai se anabrasmo enantion ths kybernhtikhs politikhs

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh kai ton Basilh Mpeskenh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

K. POYLAKHS: ``Mh xasoyme thn oysia, h opoia einai oti h megalh antiqesh ths koinwnias se sxesh me thn kybernhtikh politikh, h opoia akoloyqeitai. Dioti, otan blepei oti kanei to kalo paidi h kybernhsh, o kyrios Samaras, apenanti sthn kyria Merkel h sthn politikh ths eyrwzwnhs kai ths troikas, kai den leei oyte mia koybenta, ayto shmainei oti qa prepei na xtyphqei, kai h ellhnikh koinwnia pia brisketai se anabrasmo enantion ayths ths politikhs''.

K. POYLAKHS: ``Menoyme sto oti o kyrios Samaras den exei episkeftei kamia apo tis xwres toy Notoy, oi opoioi pernane ta idia problhmata me emas, gia na arxisoyn na yfainontai oi politikes symmaxies sthn eyrwzwnh, gia mia nea eyrwpaikh arxitektonikh. Dhladh, sxediazetai h Nea Eyrwph apo alloys, xwris emas, ki ayto einai sta arnhtika, dioti emeis exoyme prwta ap' ola to problhma kai thn piesh, thn opoia mas exoyn dhmioyrghsei''.

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[05] S. Lykoydhs: Nomizw oti einai realistika ta metra

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh kai ton Basilh Mpeskenh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Ektimate oti yparxei kai pisw apo thn istoria me th mh synanthsh toy kyrioy Tsipra me ton kyrio Rompai kybernhtikos daktylos'';

S. LYKOYDHS: ``Den jerw. Den to pisteyw. Egw pisteyw oti o ellhnikos politikos kosmos sto synolo toy, protima na exoyn epafh me toys Eyrwpaioys paragontes ola ta kommata, gia na dexontai kriseis, amfisbhthseis ths dikhs toys politikhs, na ginetai enas dialogos, na antloyn empeiries. Pisteyw oti ola ta politika kommata sthn Ellada qa hqelan oloi na synomiloyn me toys Eyrwpaioys. Giati na prepei na qelei kapoios na apokleistei o Tsipras apo ton Rompai; Den to pisteyw''.

S. LYKOYDHS: ``Kai ayto to sxhma, h politikhs ths xwras na xarassetai stis synanthseis twn triwn arxhgwn, exei kai ayto problhmata, dioti oysiastika yparxei kybernhsh, yparxoyn ypoyrgoi, kai loipa. Omws, einai alhqeia oti se epipedo twn triwn arxhgwn, merikes politikes sympyknwnontai kai diamorfwnontai ws eniaio synolo. Ara, xreiazetai ayth h synanthsh, poly perissotero prin apo th synanthsh toy prwqypoyrgoy''.

S. LYKOYDHS: ``Nomizw oti einai apolytws realistika (ta metra) gia na diamorfwsoyn mia eswterikh synennohsh, ena eswteriko metwpo. Twra, to kata poson oi etairoi, h allh pleyra, qa ta apodextoyn, ekei metraei ayto poy exei yparjei ws perirreoysa atmosfaira, dhladh ``den sas pisteyoyme'', kai me to ``den sas pisteyoyme'' koympwnontai, sfiggontai, phgainoyn sth gwnia. Egw nomizw oti einai realistika ta metra, alla shmasia exei an einai etoimos o etairos na ta apodextei, se mia prospaqeia dikhs mas eilikrineias ayta na ta petyxoyme''.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Piqanologeite oti mporei na yparxoyn apwleies stis koinoboyleytikes chfofories apo thn pleyra ths DHMAR'';

S. LYKOYDHS: ``Me poly megalh eilikrineia, den to apokleiw, giati einai ejairetika dyskolo to qema. Einai poly megales epiloges, poy qeloyn poly megales antoxes, ean einai swstes, giati mporei na apodeixqei oti den einai. Se ayth thn istoria h piesh einai polles fores aforhth, kai exei sxesh kai me toys anqrwpoys''.

S. LYKOYDHS: ``Proswpika egw, kai ws grammateas toy kommatos, kai ws boyleyths, kai ws stelexos toy kommatos, nomizw olo to komma apaitei apo oloys toys boyleytes, me synaisqhsh twn megalwn epilogwn poy exoyme kanei, na sebastoyn tis syllogikes apofaseis, sto onoma twn megalwn prwtoboyliwn poy pairnoyme, kai poy einai syllogikes. Exoyn ypoxrewsh. Tetoio sebasmo, omws, oxi ``an den to kanete, qa...'' Alla na jerei kapoios oti an stis megales epiloges den sebastei th syllogikh apofash, o idios bazei problhma se sxesh me to komma toy''.

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[06] Kikilias, Kwnstantopoyloy, Amoiridhs gia eyrwpaikh kai eswterikh politikh skhnh

Oi apofaseis, aytes nomizw oti einai kontra stis aysthra neofileleyqeres politikes ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, tonise apo pleyras ND, o Basilhs Kikilias.

Shmeiwse, oti pisteyei stis meses lyseis kai staqhke idiaitera sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti ayto qa einai kai to teleytaio paketo metrwn.

O laos den antexei kati allo, ayth einai h dysbastakth alhqeia symplhrwse prosqetontas oti zhtame to profanes, opws metajy allwn, ena eyrwpaiko sxedio Marsal, ena eyrwomoologo

Oson afora sthn ejetastikh, shmeiwse oti aytoi poy exoyn eyqynh na katsoyn kai sto skamni, an prepei.

Eimai yper 1.000% eipe xarakthristika, alla dierwthqhke an ayth th xronikh stigmh yparxei to periqwrio wste na ginei gia ayto.

Zwh Kwnstantopoyloy

Kalo einai h Ellada na mhn parakoloyqei ws qeaths tis ejelijeis sthn E.E. tonise apo thn pleyra ths h Zwh Kwnstantopoyloy prosqetontas omws oti ta osa anefere nwritera o Kikilias einai antifatika me thn politikh ths ND

Einai h wra na mhn lhfqoyn ta metra apo th stigmh poy yparxei h syneidhtopoihsh sthn Eyrwph oti to problhma einai eyrwpaiko

Oson afora sthn ejetastikh, shmeiwse oti h analhch eyqynwn den exei thn ennoia sygnwmh laqos, h analhch eyqynwn shmainei kai apodosh twn eyqynwn.

Zhthsame ejetastikh epitroph ths Boylhs wste na anazhthqoyn kai na apodoqoyn oles oi eyqynes kai politikes kai poinikes se osoys anhkoyn . Einai epitaktiko o laos na maqei poios ton odhghse se aythn thn katastash

H idia milhse epishs kai gia kati poy, opws eipe perase, xqes sta cila grammata.

Xarakthrise, prajikophma apo thn kybernhsh thn prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy, gia ton orismo dioikhshs sto TAIPED, opws epishs kai to oti me prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy meiwnetai h symmetoxh toy dhmosioy se mia seira dhmosiwn epixeirhsewn.

Giannhs Amoiridhs

H troika qa prepei na leitoyrghsei me diaforetiko koinwniko tropo, kleidi einai h symplhrwmatikh protash koybelh gia rhtra isodynamwn ypogrammise apo pleyras DHMAR o Giannhs Amoiridhs.

Anaforika me thn ejetastikh, parathrhse oti o politikos kosmos exei ofeilh pros toys polites kai prepei na th bgalei

Wstoso, opws xarakthristika anefere, qa xaqei h mpala an pame se tetoio baqos xronoy (apo to 1994 kai pera).

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[07] G. Maniaths: Prepei na exoyme safh strathgikh

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai Aporrhto'' me ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

G. MANIATHS: ``Ayth th stigmh h koinoboyleytikh omada toy PASOK, kai h koinoboyleytikh omada ths DHMAR, mazi me thn koinoboyleytikh omada ths ND asfalws, sthrizoyn thn kybernhsh. Ara, opoiadhpote metra qa parqoyn, einai bebaio oti prepei na exoyn prohgoymenws syzhthqei kai stis koinoboyleytikes omades twn triwn kommatwn. Poly perissotero, omws, apo ayto, th Deytera o proedros toy PASOK, o Eyaggelos Benizelos, qa synanthsei thn troika. Prin thn synanthsei, einai profanes oti qa prepei na exei yparjei mia synennohsh kai syzhthsh se anwtato epipedo, anamesa stoys treis politikoys arxhgoys, prokeimenoy na einai syntetagmenoi kai se koinh kateyqynsh kai o prwqypoyrgos, kai o kyrios Koybelhs, kai o kyrios Benizelos, wste na poyn peripoy ta idia pragmata me piqanes mikrodiaforopoihseis, analoga me thn politikh toy kaqe kommatos... Prepei na exoyme safh strathgikh. Asfalws kaqe fora sthn politikh einai zhthma to pws xeirizomaste thn trexoysa sygkyria, omws prepei na eimaste jekaqaroi me poia strathgikh phgainoyme en ocei toy Symboylioy Koryfhs poy qa ginei ton epomeno mhna''.

G. MANIATHS: ``Emeis bazoyme ena synqhma, poy einai kai desmeysh mas, oxi yparjh orizontiwn metrwn. Einai dynaton na syzhtame gia meiwsh h ejafanish twn epidomatwn twn AmeA; Emeis ayto to qema, poy einai sto plaisio twn 11,5 dis. poy syzhtoyme twra, den ginetai na to syzhthsoyme, den to dexomaste''.

G. MANIATHS: ``Ta zhthmata einai terastia twn Ellhnwn politwn, se kaqe kathgoria. Otan akoyseis to problhma ths kaqe koinwnikhs omadas, pragmatika einai etsi opws to perigrafoyn. Den yparxei kanenas poy na einai eyxaristhmenos. Einai ayto poy nomizw pws prepei na kanei mia oikogeneia. Anti na trabame o kaqenas to yfasma pros th dikh toy pleyra, na prospaqhsoyme na enwsoyme tis dynameis mas. Kai nomizw oti kai ta alla kommata ths Boylhs einai xrhsimo na bohqhsoyn, me piqanes idees poy isws yparjoyn. Egw qa hqela na dw ayto poy lene epoikodomhtikh antipoliteysh''.

G. MANIATHS: ``Egw den katalabainw, kai qelw na eimai safhs, otan enas dikastikos exei ena misqo ths tajhs twn 3-4.000 eyrw, den antilambanomai pws mporw na ton balw sthn idia moira me ton astynomiko twn 700 eyrw. Den katalabainw giati o neodioristos dikastikos mporei na pairnei 2.000, asfalws an exei h eqnikh oikonomia na toy ta dwsei, kai o prwtodiorizomenos daskalos h astynomikos na pairnei 600 h 700 eyrw. Kai giati den mporoyn oi ychlomisqoi dikastikoi na meiwsoyn tis apodoxes toys, xwris ayto na meiwsei thn paragwgikothta toys kai xwris na qetoyn qemata ths syntagmatikothtas''.

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