[01] Sklhrh epiqesh toy Fwth Koybelh se N.D. kai SYRIZA

O k. Koybelhs qelhse, opws eipe o idios, na episthsei thn prosoxh stoys boyleytes toy kommatos, enocei twn eklogwn, se ena skhniko poy prospaqoyn diafores politikes dynameis na diamorfwsoyn kai poy o laos prepei na apotrecei. Prokeitai, prosqese, gia mia karikatoyra dikommatismoy, gia ena epikindyno laikistiko dipolo, poy aposkopei sthn pagideysh twn politwn.

Apo th mia, oi syspeirwmenes dynameis ths ``dejias polykatoikias'', poy janampainoyn sta diamerismata oxi giati symfwnoyn metajy toys, alla gia na diekdikhsoyn thn prwth qesh, episeiontas ton kindyno mias Aristeras poy kineitai se antieyrwpaikh troxia, eipe o proedros ths DHMAR. H Dejia, prosqese o k. Koybelhs, qa kinhqei me tis gnwstes neofileleyqeres syntages, me tis opoies kineitai h Dejia sthn Eyrwph, me apotelesma na exei odhghqei h EE se adiejoda. Einai mia ametanohth Dejia toy xqes, xwris programma kai orama gia thn Ellada kai thn Eyrwph, eipe.

Wstoso, ypogrammise o proedros ths DHMAR, o kindynos enisxyshs ths einai yparktos, an apenanti se aythn th Dejia oi polites blepoyn mono ton polo mias laikistikhs kai aneyqynhs Aristeras, poy erwtotropei, anoixta, me thn ejodo apo to eyrw kai me thn epistrofh sth draxmh. Ayth h Aristera den exei oikonomiko programma, th mia, milaei gia kataggelia toy mnhmonioy, thn allh, gia epanadiapragmateysh enw, otan apeyqynetai ston Zoze Manoyel Mparozo, periorizetai sthn epanejetash, tonise.

``Me dyo logia, careyei sta qola nera. Ayth h Aristera anaparagei tis xeiroteres paradoseis ths paradosiakhs aristeras kai toy PASOK kai klinei to mati ston laikismo, fqanontas na proteinei gia prwqypoyrgo ton Gerasimo Arsenh. Ayth h Aristera, den einai h dikh mas Aristera kai as mhn mataioponoyn me prosxhmatikes "epiqeseis filias"'' eipe o Fwths Koybelhs.

Ektimhse, parallhla, oti h Dejia qa kakopoihsei thn ypoqesh toy eyrwpaismoy, alla qa eisprajei apo ton fobo apenanti sthn aneyqynh Aristera kai o SYRIZA, poy den qelei -giati den mporei- na kybernhsei, qa perioristei na kaqisei stis dafnes ths antipoliteyshs. Ayto einai to sxedio poy boleyei kai toys dyo, eipe o k. Koybelhs kai prosqese oti h Dejia qa probalei monon to dilhmma ``eyrw h draxmh'' kai o SYRIZA, monon to dilhmma ``mnhmonio- antimnhmonio''.

Symfwna me ton k. Koybelh, to pragmatiko dilhmma, omws, einai allo: stadiakh apagkistrwsh kai epanadiapragmateysh toy mnhmonioy, me eyrw h kataggelia monomerhs kai draxmh;

``Qelw'' aposafhnise o k. Koybelhs, ``na eimai kathgorhmatikos: an pame se ekloges me monon aytoys toys dyo poloys, an o poliths den dei mprosta toy enan trito polo, aristero kai eyrwpaiko, dhmokratiko kai sosialistiko, baqeia metarryqmistiko, h xwra qa mpei se megalyteres peripeteies. Th shmaia aytoy toy tritoy poloy, monon h DHMAR mporei, shmera, ajiopista, na thn shkwsei kai as mhn amfiballei kaneis: qa thn shkwsei''.

Katalhgontas, o k. Koybelhs eipe oti den qa epitrecei na mpei h xwra se peripeteies me trites, kata seira, ekloges kai opws eipe, ``oso pio isxyrh einai h DHMAR, toso pio proodeytikh, apotelesmatikh kai staqerh qa einai h kybernhsh''.

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[02] A. Kalybhs: ``Paleyoyme gia to eyrw xwris mnhmonio''

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Basilh Mpeskenh kai ton Giannh Pantelakh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

A. KALYBHS: ``Apo emas eginan prospaqeies, alla o kosmos den einai ths apochs oti qeloyn mia kybernhsh o,ti kai o,ti. Qeloyn mia kybernhsh na allajoyn ta pragmata. An einai mia kybernhsh poy qa parameinei sth seira poy exei dromologhsei to mnhmonio ayto einai kati poy den to qelei o kosmos''.

ENDEXOMENO MH AYTODYNAMIAS

A. KALYBHS: ``Qa doyme to neo topio pws diamorfwnetai, opwsdhpote den qa einai kapoios poy qa zhthsei trites ekloges, qa epixeirhsei na sxhmatistei kybernhsh''.

GIA EYRW H DRAXMH

A. KALYBHS: ``Exoyme apanthsei me safhneia akoma kai ta stelexh poy exoyn diaforetikh apoch kai einai apolyta qemito na yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis, exoyn apanthsei oti h qesh mas einai oti emeis paleyoyme gia to eyrw xwris mnhmonio. Einai safhs h qesh mas''.

A. KALYBHS: ``Emeis exoyme diatypwsei thn apoch oti prepei to mnhmonio na akyrwqei. Gia to qema ths daneiakhs symbashs prepei na yparjei kataggelia kai gia to qema toy xreoys, leme oti prepei na yparjei diapragmateysh gia th diagrafh toy megalyteroy xreoys''.

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[03] N. Kaklamanhs: ``Qa einai dhmochfisma aytes oi ekloges''

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh kai ton Basilh Mpeskenh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``O SYRIZA de qelei na einai mesa sthn Eyrwph, an leei alhqeia se ayta poy leei to programma toy''.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Pws prokyptei oti ean doqoyn epidomata stoys laqrometanastes, opws leei sto programma toy o SYRIZA, qa bgoyme apo thn eyrwzwnh'';

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``Me poia lefta; Apo poy qa bgoyn ayta ta lefta, ean taytoxrona exoyme kataggeilei to mnhmonio kai den paroyme tis doseis; Giati milaei peri kataggelias. Ayto leei''.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Nomizw oti to exei diaforopoihsei ligaki sto epixeirhma ayto''.

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``Ti qa pei ''to exei diaforopoihsei ligaki''; Otan blepoyme oti ejaitias ayths ths taktikhs''...

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Eidame thn epistolh poy esteile ston kyrio Mparozo kai toys ypoloipoys''.

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``Thn epistolh poy lete oti esteile, malista. E, loipon, as staqeropoihqoyn kai na mas poyn eyqews kai sta isia''.

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``Oi ideologies, boleye mexri twra na leme oti exoyn katarreysei. Den katerreysan pote. O koinwnikos fileleyqerismos den katerreyse pote. Kapoioi fobontoysan kai ton eixan balei sto syrtari gia na mhn toys poyn antidrastikoys kai ntemonte. O koinwnikos fileleyqerismos yfistatai, kai ayta ola poy sas eipa einai basika systatika toy koinwnikoy fileleyqerismoy''.

N. KAKLAMANHS: ``De qa pame twra me ideologika zhthmata. Edw qa pame ``eyrw h draxmh'', ``mesa h ejw apo thn Eyrwph''. Qelei, de qelei o SYRIZA, ayto qa einai to dilhmma panw sto opoio qa apanthsei o ellhnikos laos. Qa einai dhmochfisma aytes oi ekloges. Mporei na qeloyn na to baloyn katw apo to xali twra oi noynexeis toy SYRIZA, giati blepoyn ti shmainei ayto to dilhmma, alla den toys afhnoyn oi alloi, o kyrios Glezos, o kyrios Stratoylhs''...

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[04] D. Kremastinos: ``Dystyxws, apotelw meiochfia sth logikh''

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai aporrhto'' me ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

D. KREMASTINOS: ``Egw exw apo kairo topoqethqei panw sta qemata poy aforoyn th xwra mas kai qa ta epanalabw, dioti dystyxws apotelw meiochfia sth logikh. Dhladh, h koinh logikh parabiazetai kaqhmerina se tetoio baqmo poy o kosmos apoprosanatolizetai. H prwth parathrhsh einai oti emeis prospaqoyme na kanoyme kati diaforetiko apo o,ti paei na kanei olh h allh Eyrwph. Dhladh, na mh symmorfwqoyme se ena programma, to opoio kata kapoio tropo exei apofasistei apo to PASOK kai th ND, kai to opoio einai ena programma sklhro, kai einai ena programma to opoio prepei na to diapragmateyontai ana trimhno, kaqe fora poy erxetai to qema ths doshs. Ki enw ayto einai to programma kai h epanadiapragmateysh, oloi milane gia kataggelia toy programmatos, alla sthn pragmatikothta milane gia epanadiapragmateysh''.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Den apokleisate to endexomeno na ftasoyme se misqoys Boylgarias''.

D. KREMASTINOS: ``Egw to eixa pei apo tote, apo to prwto mnhmonio, oti ayth htan h strathgikh ths troikas. H strathgikh ths troikas htane na xamhlwsoyn, oso to dynato na mhdenistoyn, oi ypoxrewseis twn megalwn etaireiwn pros to kratos, dhladh na exoyn xamhloys forologikoys syntelestes, mhdenikoys, kai na exoyn fqhna ergatika xeria. Ayth einai h qewria toy programmatos ths troikas, gi' ayto ki egw den hmoyn ypermaxos ayths ths arxhs, ki ayto to eixa pei apo tote''.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Twra synexizetai ayto'';

D. KREMASTINOS: ``Bebaiws synexizetai. An synexizoyme etsi, an anaptyjh den yparxei, ti qa ginei telika; Epeidh leme emeis oti bazoyme beto se misqoys kai syntajeis, qa baloyme se mia fash, mexri pote omws, ean h oikonomikh ptwsh synexizetai'';

D. KREMASTINOS: ``To PASOK ekane ena megalo istoriko laqos, kata th gnwmh moy, politika, kai ayto to eixa epishmanei sthn arxh toy mnhmonioy. Oti anti na epidiwjei me oloys toys tropoys tote oikoymenikh kybernhsh h, an apotygxane, dhmochfisma, h, an apotygxane, ekloges, dhladh ena apo ta tria, anelabe mono toy na efarmosei to mnhmonio 1, kai fysika htan adynato na to efarmosei, dioti me oloys apenanti toy, htan adynato na efarmostei to mnhmonio 1''.

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[05] Paparhga: Na enisxyqei to KKE gia na katarghqei to mnhmonio- Epiqesh kai kata SYRIZA

Epanelabe oti qa ferei protash nomoy sth boylh gia thn aporrich toy Mnhmonioy, tonizontas oti an KAI o SYRIZA ferei thn idia protash, qa thn yperchfisei. Sxoliase wstoso dhktika legontas, ``an thn ferei, tryphste moy thn myth''.

Xreiazetai dynato KKE, eipe h k Paparhga, giati o laos exei anagkh apo mia kybernhsh poy qa ton apallajei apo ta desma ths EE kai toy NATO poy qa kanei ton lao afentiko ston ployto poy toy anhkei.

Ejepelyse epiqesh KAI sth ND, legontas oti apo xqes exoyme ton antikommoynismo ths ND kai prepei na ton tsakisoyme, na ton tsalakwsoyme.

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[06] Plakiwtakhs, Dritsas, Mpolarhs kai Kanellh sthn Prwinh Enhmerwsh

Se aytes tis ekloges, h syzhthsh qa ginei se epipedo politikwn qesewn, yposthrije o Giannhs Plakiwtakhs, prosqetontas oti oi polites qa prepei na gnwrizoyn poly kala tis qeseis kai ta programmata twn kommatwn prin pane stis kalpes.

Perigrafontas to politiko skhniko, anefere, oti apo th mia exoyme tis filoeyrwpaikes dynameis, me kostologhmeno programma kai apo thn allh tis aristerostrofes dynameis poy den exoyn orama kai programma kai oi opoies me th logikh poy akoloyqoyn odhgoyn maqhmatika ektos Eyrwphs kai eyrw

Qodwrhs Dritsas

Erwthqeis ti qa kanei o SYRIZA, an kataggeilei to mnhmonio kai h Eyrwph, apanthsei arnhtika o Qodwrhs Dritsas, eipe oti

``oi synepeies den mporei na einai dysmeneis panta qa einai kalyteres apo osa prooiwnizontai me aythn thn politikh''

Prosqese oti h epiqesh poy dexetai o SYRIZA einai oysiastika epiqesh poy dexetai o laos kai o opoios ekfrasthke kaqara aponomimopoiwntas foreis kai systhma.

Yparxei, symplhrwse, mprosta mas mia anagkh na stamathsoyme thn apeilh ths anqrwpistikhs krishs, kai to PASOK kai h ND exoyn pragmati programma, to mnhmonio.

Markos Mpolarhs

Se paniko apedwse o Markos Mpolarhs, thn apofash na mhn diaxeiristei thn ejoysia o SYRIZA.

Kai ayto, giati opws eipe, den mporoyn na apanthsoyn sto erwthma ``poia einai h diaxeirish an apo pleyras E.E. yparjei ena oxi ''

Anaferomenos stis synepeies mias ejodoy apo to Eyrw, jekaqarise oti ``otan pame sth draxmh, tote qa plhrwsoyn ta xamhla strwmata''.

Liana Kanellh

Lambanontas ton logo h Liana Kanellh synaisqhmatika fortismenh, anaferqhke sthn apofash toy ollandikoy koinoboylioy, na epikyrwsei thn apofash toy dikasthrioy gia thn nomimopoihsh toy kommatos twn paiderastwn, to opoio metajy allwn epitrepei nomimopoihsh ths sejoyalikhs epafhs metajy enhlikwn kai anhlikwn apo 12 etwn, kai th xrhsh pornografikwn paidikwn fwtografiwn gia atomikh xrhsh.

Exw dwsei maxh pente xronia gia ayto to pragma tonise, kai an fantastw oti h anaptyjh sthn Eyrwph, mporei na einai h strofh sto Internet ths paragwghs paidikwn pornografikwn tainiwn gia atomikh xrhsh, apo thn opoia kapoios mporei na exei kai ofelos, arnoymai na symmetasxw se tetoioy typoy syzhthsh.

Den yparxei, symplhrwse, misos anqrwpos poy den qa katebaine mazi moy stoys dromoys, gia ayto.

Se politiko epipedo kai apeyqynomenh ston k. Dritsa, anefere oti ``den mporeite na ermhneyete to synolo toy ellhnikoy laoy ws SYRIZA''.

Prosqese, epishs oti to ceytodilhmma mnhmonio - antimnhmonio htan laqos kai parathrhse oti oloi se aytes tis ekloges prospaqoyn na dikaiwsoyn ton Giwrgo Papandreoy.

``Jafnika oi ekloges ginane dhmochfisma kai twra erxontai kai moy lene oti o G. Papandreoy dikaiwnetai'' anefere.

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[07] Giannakoy-Xoynths-Rapth gia periqwria anaqewrhshs mnhmonioy

H ka Giannakoy dhlwse oti einai dyskolo na ginoyn allages sto mnhmonio, epishmainontas oti yparxei dieqnhs symfwnia h opoia diepetai apo th synqhkh ths Biennhs. Tonise oti h xwra eprepe edw kai xronia na proxwrhsei se diarqrwtikes allages kai pws einai laqos na pisteyei o ellhnikos laos oti oi etairoi mas qa synexizoyn na mas daneizoyn an emeis arnhqoyme na plhrwsoyme. Ypogrammise oti to megalo problhma ths xwras einai to xreos kai pws yparxoyn entones anhsyxies alla kai syzhthseis sthn EE an qa thrhsoyme tis desmeyseis mas, opoy an den ginei ayto, shmeiwse, oi etairoi mas qa mporoyn na mas pane sto dieqnes dikasthrio. Gia to endexomeno ejodoy ths xwras apo to eyrw, tonise oti den mporei na ginei aifnidiws kai aney logoy, prosqetontas oti to senario ayto exei teqei apo emas, me ta legomena mas peri mh efarmoghs twn desmeysewn mas. Kati tetoio omws shmainei oti an apofasisoyn kai oi etairoi mas na mhn einai swstoi stis dikes toys ypoxrewseis na dhmioyrghqei megalo problhma sthn Eyrwph, anefere h ka Giannakoy.

O k. Xoynths anefere oti einai politikes epiloges oi dhmosionomikoi stoxoi kai pws otan mila o SYRIZA gia epanadiapragmateysh anaferetai sthn antimetwpish toy dhmosioy xreoys. Anaferomenos sta osa eipe h ka Giannakoy oti to mnhmonio einai dieqnhs symfwnia, dhlwse oti yparxoyn dyo hqelhmenes paratypies, oti to prwto mnhmonio den chfisthke sth Boylh kai oti apo th stigmh poy einai dieqnhs symfwnia qa eprepe na eixe chfistei kai apo to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio. Epishmane akomh oti den yparxei dynatothta qesmika kai politika, na diwjoyn thn Ellada apo to eyrw, shmeiwnontas oti yparxei sxetikh meleth ths EKT. Symplhrwse oti an ginei epanadiapragmateysh den shmainei oti qa bgei h xwra apo thn Eyrwzwnh, ypogrammizontas oti to kostos ejodoy einai terastio gia thn EE kai qa prokalesei ntomino problhmatwn. Prosqese akoma oti oi Eyrwpaioi etairoi mas lene oti h nomismatikh enwsh einai problhmatikh kai pws xwris kentrikh trapeza den mporei na antimetwpistei to xreos, eite einai h Ellada mesa h ejw.

H ka Rapth shmeiwse oti h Eyrwph kai to Eyrwpaiko koinoboylio einai ena synexes diarkes ghpedo diapragmateyshs, opoy oi eyrwboyleytes diapragmateyontai synexws gia mia kalyterh dynath synainesh wste na ginei kalyterh h zwh toy eyrwpaioy polith. Epanelabe oti to PASOK ektima pws to eklogiko apotelesma edwse tria mhnymata: a) o laos qelei na zhsei kalytera, b) qelei synergasia, kai g) qelei na meinei sto eyrw. Shmeiwse oti to PASOK den emeine aklonhto sth qesh toy kai eipe oti einai edw kai sthrizei tis politikes dynameis gia na mhn meinei akybernhth h xwra.

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