[01] Thn boylhsh enisxyshs twn sxesewn Elladas-Toyrkias ejefrasan N. Kotzias kai M. Tsaboysogloy

H synanthsh, opws tonisan kai oi dyo ypoyrgoi stis koines dhlwseis poy akoloyqhsan, htan mia epoikodomhtikh eykairia na syzhthsoyn toso gia thn embaqynsh twn dimerwn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn kai thn enisxysh toy dialogoy oso kai gia ta megala problhmata poy ejelissontai sthn perioxh mas. Mia eykairia, opws eipe o k. Kotzias, na breqoyn tropoi synergasias poy qa symballoyn oi dyo pleyres sth lysh toys.

O Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ejefrase ``gia allh mia fora thn allhleggyh toy ellhnikoy laoy pros ton toyrkiko lao poy antipalece to prajikophma poy egine prospaqeia na epiblhqei sthn Toyrkia'' kai tonise oti meta th synanthsh twn dyo kybernhsewn sth Smyrnh poy anoije ta kanalia synennohshs, dialogoy kai synergasias, apofasisthke me ton k. Tsaboysogloy ayta na dieyrynqoyn peraiterw stoys tomeis poy yparxoyn, opws h oikonomikh synergasia, h synergasia stis metafores, ta Metra Oikodomhshs Empistosynhs (MOE) kai o politikos dialogos.

``H ellhnikh ejwterikh politikh'' prosqese o k. Kotzias ``synexizei me entash to ergo ths, anaptyssoyme tis sxeseis mas me tis geitones xwres kai s? olh thn Eyrwph kai sthn eyryterh perioxh, alla h Toyrkia einai mia xwra me thn opoia exoyme idiaiteres sxeseis kai idiaitera symferonta. Gi' ayto h shmerinh mas synanthsh exei megalh shmasia gia tis dyo xwres alla, nomizw, kai gia thn perioxh eyrytera''.

Th xara toy gia thn episkech toy sthn Krhth poy episkeptetai gia prwth fora, opws eipe, ejefrase apo thn pleyra toy o k. Tsaboysogloy eyxaristwntas gia thn prosklhsh ton k. Kotzia. Ena idiaitero ``eyxaristw'' ejefrase pros ton omologo toy, alla kai ton prwqypoyrgo Alejh Tsipra, ``gia thn yposthrijh poy mas proseferan tis dyskoles stigmes poy perasame sthn Toyrkia kata th diarkeia ths prosfaths apopeiras prajikophmatos''. ``H yposthrijh toy ellhnikoy laoy kaqws kai h jekaqarh stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs'' prosqese ``eginan dektes me megalh eyxaristhsh apo ton toyrkiko lao, o opoios malista leei oti mono oi Ellhnes mporoyn na anagnwrisoyn kai na katalaboyn ta problhmata toys''.

``H prospaqeia mas olh egkeitai sto na dynamwsoyme akomh pio poly tis sxeseis anamesa sthn Toyrkia kai thn Ellada'' tonise o k. Tsaboysogloy kanontas anafora sto qesmo toy Anwtatoy Symboylioy Synergasias, sta Metra Oikodomhshs Empistosynhs, kaqws kai tis diereynhtikes synomilies poy yfistantai metajy twn dyo xwrwn, enw ejefrase thn ikanopoihsh toy gia thn prwtoboylia toy k. Kotzia na exoyn taktikes anepishmes synanthseis kai sthn Toyrkia kai sthn Ellada, opws h shmerinh. ``Stis arxes aytoy toy etoys'' eipe ``ton eixa filojenhsei sthn Kwnstantinoypolh gia ena deipno, gi' ayto shmera hrqa meta thn prosklhsh toy edw''.

O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias xarakthrise th syzhthsh me ton k. Kotzia ws ``poly epoikodomhtikh'' kai ejhghse: ``Ekfrasame th qelhsh mas na beltiwsoyme akoma pio poly tis sxeseis mas, ektimhsame kai tis ejelijeis sthn eyryterh perioxh mas''.

Anaferomenos sto Kypriako, ejefrase thn elpida oti ``ayth th fora kai oi dyo pleyres sthn Kypro na ajiopoihsoyn ayth thn eykairia poy exoyn'' kai tonise pws ``emeis, kai oi dyo pleyres qa thn yposthrijoyme''.

Meta tis dhlwseis o k. Kotzias synodeyse ton k. Tsaboysogloy sto sphlaio Dikation 'Antron, sto oropedio Lasiqioy, opoy gennhqhke o Dias, ekei opoy odhghse thn Eyrwph, meta thn apagwgh ths apo th Libyh. ``Enas myqos baqia antiratsistikos, ton opoio kaneis sthn Eyrwph den prepei na jexnaei. Eyxaristw para poly'', opws epishmane o k. Kotzias.

Sthn plateia toy xwrioy Cyxro thn opoia onomatise o k. Kotzias prin apo ena xrono se plateia Eyrwphs, mia mikrh giorth, me toys hxoys ths krhtikhs lyras kai ena syntomo paradosiako xoro, edwsan ton giortino tono sthn episkech prin apo thn anabash sto sphlaio.

[02] H kybernhsh anazhta eswterikoys exqroys, dhlwnei sto APE-MPE o S. Kedikogloy

Shmeiwnei, epishs, oti kaitoi h ND den mporei na prokalesei ekloges to endexomeno einai anoikto, enw yposthrizei oti h xwra xreiazetai allagh politikhs. Oson afora ta eswkommatika dhlwnei oti ``ayta ta peri diastashs metajy ``karamanlikwn'', ``samarikwn'' ``mhtsotakikwn'' einai ek toy ponhroy kai qa prepei na stamathsoyn''.

-To plhres keimeno ths synenteyjhs toy Simoy Kedikogloy sto APE-MPE kai ston Spyro Gkoytzanh exei ws ejhs:

ER. Einai se ejelijh h diadikasia gia tis thleoptikes adeies. Hdh h ND anakoinwse oti den qa anagnwrisei thn kainoyrgia pragmatikothta. Qewreite oti den eprepe na allajei h katastash anomias -opws oloi symfwnoyn- poy epikratoyse;

AP. O sxediasmos ths kybernhshs einai profanhs. Stoxos einai h xeiragwghsh twn Meswn Mazikhs Enhmerwsh, apofasizontas ayqaireta na xorhghsei mono tesseris thleoptikes adeies xwris na dikaiologeitai o sygkekrimenos ariqmos, enw oyte h olh diadikasia mporei na qewrhqei amempth, kaqws basizontai se mia ceytomeleth toy Institoytoy Flwrentias, katastrathgwntas tis syntagmatikes arxes ths anejarthsias, ths eleyqerotypias kai toy ygioys antagwnismoy. Emeis apo thn arxh eixame proeidopoihsei gia dysarestes ejelijeis kai eixame katachfisei to ``nomo Pappa''.

O k. Tsipras milaei gia qesmikh ektroph, otan o idios o nomos gia ta Mesa Enhmerwshs mporei na prosblhqei ws antisyntagmatikos, afairwntas ejoysies apo mia anejarthth arxh, to Radiothleoptiko Symboylio, kai tis metabibazei ston ypoyrgo toy. Synepws , o k. Pappas me bash to nomo ths kybernhshs Tsipra ginetai yperkanalarxhs kai to ESR, gia to opoio toys memfontai, oti den synainoyn sth sygkrothsh toy, apokta ena diakosmhtiko rolo, afoy pleon eishgeitai kai den apofasizei. Exoyn katalysei thn anejarthth arxh, o k. Pappas, ws allos Loydobikos leei: ``to Kratos eimai egw''. To Syntagma tis armodiothtes aytes, twn adeiodothsewn tis dinei sthn anejarthth arxh, anhkoyn dhl. sto kratos, antiqetws o k. Pappas fainetai oti ermhneyei me to diko toy tropo to Syntagma. Exoyn mperdecei thn kybernhsh me to kratos, ayth einai kaqestwtikh nootropia.H anejarthth antikeimenikh enhmerwsh einai systatiko ths Dhmokratias mas. Ta kolpa gia na fimwsoyn thn kritikh, gia na fimwsoyn toys antipaloys toys, den exoyn qesh se mia Dhmokratia. Den exoyn, epishs, dwsei peistikes apanthseis gia to pws ejyphreteitai to dhmosio symferon otan exoyme sygkentrwsh ths enhmerwshs se ligoys, kaqws kai poia einai ta krithria basei twn opoiwn o k. Pappas apofasise oti o ariqmos twn adeiwn eqnikhs embeleias qa einai tesseris, th stigmh malista poy oi texnikes dynatothtes mporoyn na yposthrijoyn 16 kanalia panelladika.

ER.: H kybernhsh sas kathgorei pantws gia syndesh me thn palia diaplokh;

AP. H kybernhsh SYRIZA-ANEL katafeygei se taktikismoys kai kolpa. Gia na dikaiologhsei thn apotyxia ths anazhta enagwniws ``eswterikoys exqroys'' kata ta stalinika protypa. Prokeimenoy na fortwsoyn ta laqh kai tis paraleiceis toys anakalycan th diaplokh. As elpisoyme na stamathsoyn ayta ta kolpakia.

ER.: Nomizete oti h xwra qa prepei na odhghqei se ekloges;

AP. Qewroyme apolytws aparaithth thn allagh politikhs. Akoyme ton k. Tsipra, enamish xrono meta, na leei stoys ypoyrgoys toy: ``synennohqeite gia tis ependyseis'', ma xreiasthke enamish xrono gia na katalabei, oti oi ypoyrgoi toy kanoyn o, ti mporoyn gia na yponomeysoyn kaqe ependytikh prospaqeia;

Prepei na allajei h politikh, prepei na allajei h kybernhsh, den mporoyme na prokalesoyme ekloges. Epimenoyme sto aithma mas kai se o, ti afora to an to qewrw piqano; O, ti exw akoysei mexri stigmhs apo to stoma toy k. Tsipra telika exei symbei to antiqeto, opote, otan leei oti den qa ginoyn ekloges, egw, eylogws, to piqanologw.

ER.: Pisteyete oti h kybernhsh den qa jeperasei to dyskolo fqinopwro kai xeimwna poy exei mprosta ths;

AP. Ta ellhnika noikokyria qa ``matwsoyn'' apo tis ayjhseis stoys emmesoys foroys, einai sklhra metra, xwris apotelesma, prodiagrafoyn nees meiwseis misqwn kai syntajewn kai nees ayjhseis forwn. Einai mia syntagh poy den bgainei, apodexontai tis protaseis gia yperforologhsh kai ayjhsh twn asfalistikwn eisforwn poy den prokeitai na apodwsoyn, kai ayto qa fanei Septembrh me Oktwbrh opote qa arxisoyn na adeiazoyn ta tameia. Kai, epishs, ti egine to koyrema toy xreoys, ti egine h syndesh ths apoplhrwmhs toy xreoys me rhtra anaptyjhs, ti egine o 13os misqos; Fantazomai pws ta jexname ola ayta, opws kai to oti o aytomatos ``kofths'' einai synepeia ths anajiopistias ths kybernhshs SYRIZA-ANEL kaqws pote sto parelqon den yphrje tetoia apaithsh me toso sklhro kai apolyto tropo.

H oikonomia den prokeitai na mpei se troxia anaptyjhs oso h kybernhsh SYRIZA-ANEL paramenei sthn ejoysia, prepei na fygei to syntomotero dynato, giati akoma kai otan ftanei - ypo thn piesh ths pragmatikothtas- na apodexqei thn anagkh twn idiwtikopoihsewn, entoytois, den mporei na tis ylopoihsei, giati exoyn allergia ston idiwtiko tomea , exoyn allergia apenanti sthn epixeirhmatikothta kai apenanti ston eleyqero epaggelmatia, toys blepoyn san exqroys.

ER.: Tis idies dyskolies omws den qa synanthsete ki eseis mesa se ena asfyktiko plaisio, toy mnhmonioy, to opoio epishs exete chfisei;

AP. H protash mas sthrizetai sth meiwsh ths forologias to grhgorotero dynato, giati alliws den prokeitai na exoyme anaptyjh. Epishs, emeis kaythriazoyme th stash twn Eyrwpaiwn etairwn mas poy apodexontai anapotelesmatikes ryqmiseis, giati exoyme thn aisqhsh oti qeloyn na bgei h Ellada apo to proskhnio kai gia na yparjei symfwnia. Emeis den panhgyrisame pote gia kamia symfwnia kai legame panta oti h katastash einai dyskolh kai ti akribws mporoyme na petyxoyme. Edw, milame gia thn alazoneia poy epideiknyoyn, enw katastrefoyn thn Ellada.

Emeis exoyme allh qewrhsh twn pragmatwn. H anaptyjh qa erqei mono apo ton idiwtiko tomea kai ayto den qa symbei oso daimonopoioyne thn epixeirhmatikothta kai ton eleyqero epaggelmatia, o opoios qa klhqei na dwsei to 65% me 75% twn eisodwn toy gia foroys kai eisfores.

Oso de gia to an chfisame to mnhmonio, na sas ypenqymisw oti h Nea Dhmokratia sthrije mia symfwnia poy htan o monos tropos gia na krathqei h Ellada sthn Eyrwph. Den chfisame kanenan efarmostiko nomo.

ER.: Qa zhthsete epanadiapragmateysh; Giati ti allo einai h meiwsh toy prwtogenoys pleonasmatos poy proanaggellete;

AP. H protash toy proedroy ths N.D. Kyriakoy Mhtsotakh gia thn epiteyjh mias neas symfwnias me stoxo prwtogenes pleonasma 2% apo to 2018 kai epeita qetei ta qemelia gia na jefygei h oikonomia apo thn yfesh kai na mpei se troxia anaptyjhs. Opws hdh exoyme anaferei, h en logw protash einai aparaithto na synodeytei apo ena ``filodojo'' programma diarqrwtikwn metarryqmisewn, poy qa beltiwsei thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias.

ER.: Yparxei diastash metajy ths neas hgesias kai twn ``karamanlikwn'';

AP. Ayta ta peri diastashs metajy ``karamanlikwn'', ``samarikwn'' ``mhtsotakikwn'' einai ek toy ponhroy kai qa prepei na stamathsoyn. Oi polites qeloyn mia Nea Dhmokrataia, opws th diamorfwnei, thn ejelissei o Kyriakos Mhtsotakhs etoimh na antimetwpisei ta problhmata toy topoy me ena realistiko, stoixeioqethmeno programma, to opoio qa paroysiasei sth Qessalonikh, etoimh na analabei tis tyxes toy topoy. Ayto apaitoyn oi polites, ayto etoimazoyme kai emeis.

Egw yphrethsa pista ton Kwsta Karamanlh apo thn prwth stigmh poy eklexthka boyleyths, to 2004 mexri to 2009, meta sthrija thn Ntora Mpakogiannh sthn eswkommatikh eklogh, otan nikhse o Antwnhs Samaras ton yphrethsa pista kai twra yphretw ton Kyriako Mhtsotakh. Peste moy, ti eimai egw; Eimai ``samarikos'', eimai ``karamanlikos'', eimai ``mhtsotakikos''; Ti eimai; Eimaste oloi Neodhmokrates kai qa prepei na systrateyqoyme, giati h patrida mas mas xreiazetai.

ER.: Kataqesate erwthsh gia to dystyxhma ths Aiginas. Exete yponoies oti yphrje parembash gia opoioydhpote eidoys sygkalych;

AP. Kataqesame dyo erwthseis pros ton ypoyrgo Naytilias k. Qeodwro Dritsa, zhtwntas peistikes apanthseis kai ejhghseis gia to pws leitoyrghse, pws antedrase to Limeniko Swma, oi yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Naytilias kai h politikh hgesia. Pws einai dynaton epi treis oloklhres wres na afeqoyn anenoxlhtoi osoi htan panw sto taxyploo, poy prokalese thn tragwdia na kanoyn o, ti qeloyn, na ejafanistoyn kai basizomaste mono sto logo toys gia to poioi htan oi epibates kai ti ekanan. Htan ypoxrewsh toy Limenikoy, toylaxiston, na diasfalisei kai th syllhch toy xeiristh, alla kai tis kataqeseis twn synepibainontwn, poy einai aytoptes martyres. O k. Dritsas otan qa apanthsei, qa htan skopimo na mas pei kai gia to diko toy to rolo, giati prwta ap' ola den jerw, an synhqizetai na phgainei o Ypoyrgos Naytilias sthn perioxh enos naytikoy atyxhmatos, amesa kai malista me taxythta entypwsiakh se sxesh me thn parembash toy Limenikoy. Epishs, qa prepei na gnwrizoyn oloi, oti apo th stigmh poy yparxei proanakrish gia ajiopoinh prajh thn epopteia thn exei o Eisaggeleas kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh o Eisaggeleas Plhmmeleiodikwn Peiraia. O ypoyrgos den exei kamia sxesh, kanena rolo oyte na apofainetai gia to an einai laqos, oyte na ekfrazei gnwmh, oti einai empeiros o drasths kai gnwsths ths perioxhs.

ER.: Ektimate oti qa yparjei nea ejarsh sto prosfygiko-metanasteytiko;

AP. Na mhn jexname oti me thn politikh twn ``anoixtwn synorwn'' h kybernhsh SYRIZA - ANEL esteile se olo ton kosmo to mhnyma, oti o eykoloteros tropos na mpeis sthn Eyrwph einai mesw ths Elladas. Anoijan ta synora, xwris na exei yparjei kamia proetoimasia kai xwris kamia diaboyleysh Apaiteitai eqnikh strathgikh diaxeirish ths prosfygikhs krishs. Dystyxws, h Ellada plhrwnei akriba tis ideolhcies kai thn anikanothta mias kybernhshs poy eqelotyflei kai poy odhgei th xwra mas se apomonwsh apo thn Eyrwph. O k. Tsipras epimenei na mhn antilambanetai th sobarothta ths katastashs. H kybernhsh prepei amesa na frontisei, na yparjei elegxos sto prosfygiko-metanasteytiko zhthma kai apokatastash toy aisqhmatos asfaleias twn politwn.

ER.: Nomizete oti oi Eyrwpaioi qa apeleyqerwsoyn th biza gia toys Toyrkoys polites; Se diaforetikh periptwsh ektimate oti qa ylopoihsei o Erntogan thn apeilh toy gia mh thrhsh ths symfwnias sto prosfygiko;

AP. H symfwnia, ejarxhs, eixe para polles dyskolies ws pros thn ylopoihsh ths kai asafeies stoys oroys, dinontas parallhla th dynatothta sthn Toyrkia na paijei apofasistiko rolo. Bebaia, fobamai, oti ola ayta exoyn allajei ardhn. Se kaqe periptwsh h kybernhsh SYRIZA-ANEL exei xeiristei ena sobarotato problhma me ideolhcies kai anikanothta kai ta apotelesmata ta blepoyme oloi.

Er.: Thn Paraskeyh 26 Aygoystoy o Proedros ths Dhmokratias k. Prokophs Paylopoylos episkefqhke th Limnh sth Boreia Eyboia, brabeyontas pyrosbestes poy phran meros sthn katasbesh ths prosfaths pyrkagias, poy eplhje thn perioxh. Poia einai ta epomena bhmata;

AP. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias episkefqhke thn perioxh ths Limnhs gia na timhsei osoys symmeteixan sthn prospaqeia katasbeshs ths pyrkagias, poy prokalese poly megalh katastrofh me panw apo 35.000 stremmata panemorfoy, pyknotatoy peykodasoys na exoyn ginei staxth.

Htan idiaiterh xara mas na ypodextoyme ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, poy edeije amesh eyaisqhsia gia thn katastrofh poy proklhqhke kai pareyreqh se ekdhlwsh kata thn opoia timhqhkan ekproswpoi pollwn forewn kai Swmatwn Asfaleias poy elaban meros sthn prospaqeia katasbeshs ths pyrkagias. En agnoia, wstoso, toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, kaqws diorganwths htan o Dhmos Mantoydioy-Limnhs-Agias 'Annas, den klhqhkan aytoi, poy katejoxhn qa eprepe na timhqoyn, dhladh, oi rhtinokallierghtes kai oi eqelontes pyrosbestes toy Prokopioy. Parolo poy eixan paijei prwtagwnistiko rolo ston periorismo ths katastrofhs ,entoytois, proxqes oloi toys jexasan.

Twra, proexei h katagrafh twn zhmiwn kai h apokatastash toy fysikoy periballontos. Qa prepei na jekinhsoyn to syntomotero dynaton ta antiplhmmyrika erga kai parallhla na yparjei amesa eidikh merimna gia toys rhtinosyllektes, oi opoioi ypesthsan kai to megalytero plhgma, afoy, dystyxws, exasan thn phgh eisodhmatos toys gia ta epomena eikosi kai pleon xronia. Epipleon, qa prepei na ejetastei h lhch metrwn gia th sthrijh twn epaggelmatiwn ths perioxhs, poy eidan ta prosdokwmena eisodhmata toys na ejanemizontai meta kai tis akyrwseis sxedon olwn twn krathsewn poy eixan programmatistei.

[03] H ND gia thn epiqesh agnwstwn me molotof se dimoiria twn MAT ejw apo to Polytexneio

Se anakoinwsh ths, h ND anaferei pws ``oi gnwstoi ? agnwstoi, ekmetalleyomenoi thn politikh anoxhs poy ypagoreyei h kybernhsh, ejapelysan sth diarkeia ths nyxtas allh mia epiqesh se dimoiria twn M.A.T. ejw apo to Polytexneio kai prokalesan polywrh diakoph ths kykloforias sthn odo Pathsiwn''.

Se ayto to plaisio shmeiwnei: ``rwtoyme ton kat? eyfhmismo ypoyrgo Prostasias toy Polith ean antilambanetai tis synepeies ths ideolhptikhs anoxhs sth bia kai thn anomia''.

Se kaqe periptwsh, epanalambanei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, oti ``h ayrianh kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias qa qesei ws proteraiothta ths kai qa apokatasthsei to sebasmo toy nomoy, ths tajhs kai ths asfaleias twn politwn''.

[04] Th Deytera h katabolh epidomatwn kai paroxwn toy OAED pros toys dikaioyxoys

Sygkekrimena, o OAED ejhgei oti h katabolh denegine thn Paraskeyh, logw texnikoy problhmatos, h antimetwpish toy opoioy qa oloklhrwqei mexri to brady. O OAED anaferei sthn anakoinwsh toy oti oi pistwseis twn trapezikwn logariasmwn qa pragmatopoihqoyn th Deytera 29/8.

[05] O D. Bitsas stis ekdhlwseis gia thn epeteio kaqorismoy twn prwtwn synorwn toy ellhnikoy kratoys

O k. Bitsas paresth sthn epimnhmosyno dehsh kai kateqese stefani ston andrianta toy Iwannh Kapodistria.

Xqes to brady parakoloyqhse tis ekdhlwseis poy pragmatopoihqhkan ston palio rwsiko naystaqmo toy Poroy, oi opoies parallhla htan entagmenes kai sto afierwmatiko etos Elladas- Rwsias.

[06] O Z.,Gkampriel den qewrei piqanh mia entajh ths Toyrkias sthn EE syntoma

"Akomh kai an eiste poly aisiodojos gia thn politikh stadiodromia moy, sigoyra den qa dw thn Toyrkia na ginetai melos ayths ths EE", dhlwse shmera o Gkampriel, 56 etwn, se synenteyjh Typoy.

"Sthn katastash sthn opoia briskomaste den eimaste kan se qesh na dexqoyme mia polh-kratos", eipe o Gkampriel, hgeths twn Sosialdhmokratwn (SPD), toy mikroteroy kybernhtikoy etairoy ths kagkelarioy Aggela Merkel.

Eipe pws ena problhma dioikhtikhs merimnas einai o megalos plhqysmos ths Toyrkias poy fqanei peripoy ta 79 ekatommyria symfwna me thn Pagkosmia Trapeza.

"Pws qa leitoyrgoyse kati tetoio se mia Eyrwpaikh Enwsh poy ayth thn wra xanei ena apo ta pio shmantika krath melh ths, poy brisketai se amhxania, poy den jerei pws qa prepei na anadiorganwqei;" prosqese, anaferomenos sthn apofash twn Bretanwn se prosfato dhmochfisma na egkataleicoyn thn Enwsh.

Eipe pws h Toyrkia mporei, anti gi'ayto, sto makrino mellon, na ginei etairos "se enan ejwteriko daktylio" mias allagmenhs EE.

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