[01] "Apaiteitai realistikh oikonomikh strathgikh"

"H dieqnhs krish den exei akoma teleiwsei, oi kindynoi paramoneyoyn kai ayto poy proexei einai na qwrakisoyme thn oikonomia me ta katallhla metra kai na prostateysoyme tis qeseis ergasias, alla kai ta asqenestera oikonomikws strwmata", tonise o k. Karamanlhs, kata th diarkeia synenteyjhs Typoy poy paraxwrhse stis Bryjelles, ligo meta to telos ths ektakths Synodoy Koryfhs ths EE, antikeimeno ths opoias htan h diamorfwsh koinhs eyrwpaikhs qeshs enocei ths Synodoy ths G20 sto Pitsmpoyrgk stis 24 kai 25 Septembrioy.

O prwqypoyrgos tonise oti apaiteitai h xarajh oikonomikhs strathgikhs me prooptikh kai realismo, h staqeropoihsh twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn kai eidika gia thn Ellada, h prowqhsh twn diarqrwtikwn metarryqmisewn. O K. Karamanlhs synocise se eji toys basikoys tomeis stoys opoioys h EE qa prepei na dwsei emfash. Sthn anadiarqrwsh toy xrhmatopistwtikoy systhmatos, sthn anadiarqrwsh toy roloy toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, sthn prowqhsh ths ypeyqynhs praktikhs amoibwn ston xrhmatopistwtiko tomea, sthn apofygh prostateytismoy sto emporio kai thn katalhjh se symfwnia toy gyroy ths Ntoxa, sth metarryqmish toy tropoy dioikhshs kai ekproswphshs sth DNT kai se megalyterh sthrijh stis ftwxoteres xwres kai sthn prospaqeia na epiteyxqei symfwnia sth Synodo ths Kopegxaghs to Dekembrio gia thn antimetwpish twn klimatikwn allagwn.

Se o,ti afora eidikotera, to zhthma twn klimatikwn allagwn o prwqypoyrgos tonise oti h Ellada epiqymei thn epiteyjh symfwnias sthn Kopegxagh kai paramenei proshlwmenh sthn ayjhsh twn prospaqeiwn gia th meiwsh twn rypwn pagkosmiws. Pros to paron, pros to skopo ayto symfwnei me th qespish kinhtrwn gia th synergasia toy dhmosioy kai toy idiwtikoy tomea se drasthriothtes sxetikes me thn prostasia toy periballontos. O K. Karamanlhs tonise epishs oti einai anagkh na epiteyxqoyn realistikoi kai posotikoi stoxoi kai oti h syneisfora ths kaqe xwras ston agwna gia thn prostasia toy periballontos qa prepei na einai analogh pros tis ekpompes ths kai me to katakefalhn AEP ths.

Sto qema ths anamorfwshs toy Dieqnoys Nomismatikoy Tameioy, o K. Karamanlhs dhlwse oti h Ellada tassetai yper, shmeiwnontas wstoso oti den yparxei logos na ginoyn megales allages sto dioikhtiko symboylio.

Se o,ti afora ton elegxo toy trapezikoy systhmatos, o prwqypoyrgos taxqhke yper ths ayjhshs ths dieqnoys epopteias, kaqws epishs kai yper ths megalyterhs diafaneias kai ths qespishs anwtatwn oriwn se o,ti afora tis amoibes twn stelexwn toy xrhmatopistwtikoy tomea.

Erwthqeis ejalloy, gia to zhthma ths paroxhs sthn Ellada paratashs gia thn epiteyjh ths dhmosionomikhs ejygianshs, o prwqypoyrgos afoy shmeiwse oti logw ths krishs anadeixqhkan ta idiaitera problhmata ths kaqe xwras, tonise oti sthn periptwsh ths Elladas to problhma einai to megalo dhmosio xreos. Shmeiwse, akomh, oti to zhthma einai poios exei diaxronika megalo xreos to opoio anatrofodotoyn ta elleimmata.

Erwthqeis, eidikotera gia tis prosfates dhlwseis toy Epitropoy Oikonomias, Xoakin Almoynia, anefere oti o Ispanos epitropos den eipe kati kainoyrio, epishmainontas thn anagkh na spasei o faylos kyklos poy dhmioyrgeitai logw toy ychloy dhmosioy xreoys. "Prwtarxiko melhma einai na qerapeysoyme tis adynamies mas" anefere o prwqypoyrgos kai prosqese oti h xwra exei megales anaptyjiakes dynatothtes, alla xreiazetai "noikokyrema twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn".

"Opoios paristanei oti den katalabainei empaizei toys polites", anefere xarakthristika o prwqypoyrgos.

Telos, erwthqeis gia tis prosfates dhlwseis toy proedroy toy PASOK, Giwrgoy Papandreoy sxetika me ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas - Alejandroypolhs, o K. Karamanlhs dhlwse oti "h ypografh ths xwras den mporei kai den prepei na amfisbhteitai" kai tonise oti h oloklhrwsh aytoy toy agwgoy einai idiaitera shmantikh gia ta ellhnika symferonta. Symplhrwse akomh oti yparxoyn ki alles energeiakes symfwnies poy kaqistoyn thn Ellada energeiako kombo, opws h symfwnia gia ton agwgo fysikoy aerioy South Stream, oi opoies symballoyn sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh kai sth dhmioyrgia newn qesewn apasxolhshs.

Enhmerwsh G.Koymoytsakoy

Thn aisiodojia toy oti tis epomenes hmeres, me thn anadeijh twn sobarwn stoixeiwn ths eklogikhs anametrhshs, h ND qa odhghsei se anatroph twn dhmoskopikwn dedomenwn, ejefrase o ekproswpos ths ND Giwrgos Koymoytsakos.

Shmeiwse oti stis dhmoskophseis diapistwnetai xamhlh syspeirwsh twn chfoforwn ths ND, enw, antiqeta, h syspeirwsh twn chfoforwn toy PASOK exei fqasei sthn orofh ths.

"Oi dhmoskophseis einai gia na anatrepontai sthn prajh twn eklogwn", anefere o k. Koymoytsakos.

Eipe akomh oti apo thn arxh h kybernhsh eixe analabei ena dyskolo stoixhma, alla exei thn politikh eyqynh na diasfalisei to ayrio twn epomenwn genewn.

Kritikh sto PASOK

O ekproswpos ths ND ejapelyse shmera sklhrh epiqesh ston proedro toy PASOK, me aformh ta osa eixe pei se omilia toy o k. G.Papandreoy, prin apo dyo ebdomades, sxetika me ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas - Alejandroypolh.

Ta osa eipe o G. A. Papandreoy einai "logia epipolaia, aneyqyna kai epizhmia gia ena ergo poy prosferei sth xwra kai sthn Qrakh. O laikismos kai o mhdenismos toy k. Papandreoy, ean efarmostoyn, qa baloyn th xwra se peripeteies. Ti ton wqhse na egeirei qema epanadiapragmateyshs", rwthse o k. Koymoytsakos.

Kai prosqese oti h mhdenistikh antimetwpish dhmioyrgei problhma gia to ergo poy einai eqnikhs shmasias, bazei th xwra mas sto dieqnh energeiako xarth kai symbalei sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths Qrakhs.

Synexizontas o k.Koymoytsakos anefere oti epi 15 meres o k. Papandreoy apofeygei na apanthsei: "H siwph toy einai ekkwfantikh kai enoxh".

Akoloyqws anefere oti to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs parakoloyqei stena to ergo se ola ta stadia anaptyjhs kai exei kalesei thn dieqnh koinoprajia poy exei analabei thn kataskeyh toy na einai se synexh diaboyleysh me oloys toys armodioys foreis gia ola ta problhmata poy mporei na prokycoyn.

Yparxei mia systhmatikh kai diafanhs synergasia gia thn enhmerwsh gia ta periballontika zhthmata, anefere o k. Koymoytsakos.

Ypogrammise akomh oti to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs diaqetei empeirognwmones poy synergazontai me to Ellhniko Kentro Qalassiwn Ereynwn, kaqws epishs exoyn systaqei epitropes me stoxo thn epilysh zhthmatwn poy mporei na prokycoyn.

Mia tetoia epitroph einai h Epitroph toy nomoy Ebroy poy parakoloyqei thn ejelijh toy ergoy kai gnwmodotei emperistatwmena.

H Epitroph xrhmatodoteitai me 700.000 eyrw apo ton kratiko proypologismo kai me 300.000 eyrw apo th nomarxia Ebroy.

Anefere akomh oti h kybernhsh me nomosxedio exei xarakthrisei to ergo eqnikhs shmasias kai meizonos embeleias, opws eixe kanei kai sto parelqon me to ergo toy fysikoy aerioy kai thn DEPA.

Prosqese o k. Koymoytsakos oti me thn enarjh leitoyrgias toy agwgoy ta telh dieleyshs qa dioxeteyontai sthn topikh koinwnia.

H kybernhsh apedeije oti h prostasia toy energeiakoy symferontos ths xwras mporei na symbadizei me thn prostasia toy periballontos, eipe.

Perimenoyme shmera poy sto PASOK exoyn ola ta stoixeia na allajoyn stash. Na to kanoyn edw kai twra, tonise.

O ekproswpos ths ND ypenqymise tis xqesines dhlwseis toy prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Karamanlh gia to qema: "H ypografh ths xwras se dieqnes epipedo den mporei kai den prepei na amfisbhteitai. Einai prwtofanh pragmata ayta. Pisteyw oti h symfwnia einai poly shmantikh gia ta ellhnika symferonta. To epidiwkame 14 xronia alla h prospaqeia karkinobatoyse h kaqysteroyse alla h kaqysteroyse kai oloklhrwqhke apo thn kybernhsh ths ND", anefere o k. Karamanlhs kai prosqese oti yparxoyn kai alles symfwnies ston energeiako tomea poy anabaqmizoyn ton gewpolitiko rolo ths xwras kai ejasfalizei to eqniko symferon. Oi polites kaloyntai na epilejoyn metajy ths epipolaiothtas kai ths ypeyqynothtas, anefere o k. Koymoytsakos.

Rwthqhke apo dhmosiografo gia to an h ND ypainissetai kati perissotero sto qema ayto, me dedomeno oti oi Amerikanoi eixan ekfrasei thn antiqesh toys sto ergo Mpoyrgkas- Alejandroypolh. O k. Koymoytsakos apanthse: "Den ypainissomaste tipota, alla dhmioyrghse kataplhjh kai anhsyxia oti o k.Papandreoy enetaje ena qema meizonos shmasias aproklhta kai xwris na erwthqei sthn atzenta toy. Giati ayth h qesh; Einai dedomeno oti yparxei merimna gia thn prostasia toy periballontos. H aporia poy diatypwsame einai eylogh".

Shmeiwse akomh oti h topoqethsh toy PASOK sto zhthma ayto entassetai se mia prospaqeia synolikhs apodomhshs twn oswn exoyn ginei, poy perilambanei thn Olympiakh Aeroporia, ton OTE, ta limania. Epishmane telos, oti to ergo ayto exei idiaiterh eqnikh shmasia kai xarakthrise enoxh thn siwph toy PASOK.

Gia to LAOS

H chfos diamartyrias poy mporei na eisprajei to LAOS qa ejelixqei se chfo enisxyshs mias aneyqynhs protashs, dhlwse o k.Koymoytsakos, apantwntas se erwthsh sxetikh me tis diarroes chfoforwn ths ND pros ton Laiko Orqodojo Synagermo kai prosqese oti "pepoiqhsh mas einai oti oi polites qa katalaboyn poio einai to diakybeyma".

Sthn proeklogikh periodo yparxoyn poly sobara zhthmata gia na asxolhqoyme me politikoys antagwnismoys kai topika symferonta, dhlwse o ekproswpos, apantwntas se erwthsh sxetikh me thn epistolh triwn boyleytwn ths ND pros ton prwqypoyrgo poy aforoyse thn kinhsh toy Antwnh Samara, ws ypoyrgoy Politismoy, na entajei ton Nao toy Epikoyrioy Apollwna sthn Arxaiologikh Yphresia ths Messhnias.

Gia to ntimpeit

"H ND hqele apo thn prwth mera ton dialogo metajy olwn twn politikwn arxhgwn", anefere o k. Koymoytsakos kai prosqese oti thn idia qesh eixe to komma kai gia thn thleoptikh anametrhsh twn dyo arxhgwn.

Epeshmane th shmasia poy exei o dialogos stis synqhkes oikonomikhs krishs, opoy oi polites kaloyntai na epilejoyn ton prwqypoyrgo poy qa thn antimetwpisei kai prosqese oti "qeloyme epishs anabaqmish toy dialogoy gia na ginei pio oysiastikos".

Anefere akomh oti stis diapragmateyseis metajy twn ekproswpwn twn kommatwn kai twn dhmosiografwn eginan bhmata proodoy, shmeiwse, wstoso, oti enas dialogos ston opoio symmetexoyn eji politikoi arxhgoi me tosoys dhmosiografoys einai prwtognwros, den synantatai poyqena alloy, ekfrazei thn ellhnikh idiomorfia, alla einai texnika dyskolh h diaxeirish mia tetoias syzhthshs kata tropo oysiastiko.

Katelhje de legontas oti opoioi ephreasoyn arnhtika mia ycisths shmasias diadikasia feroyn kai thn eyqynh twn prajewn toys.

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[02] Sthn Ellada o Oikoymenikos Patriarxhs

O Prokaqhmenos ths Orqodojias efqase to prwi me to prwqypoyrgiko aeroskafos apeyqeias apo thn Kwnstantinoypolh sthn 110 P.M sth Larisa, opoy kai ton ypodexqhkan o Arxiepiskopos Aqhnwn kai Pashs Ellados Ierwnymos, oi Mhtropolites Larisas, Ignatios kai Elassonas Basileios, o yfypoyrgos Eswterikwn Xr. Zwhs ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs kai ekproswpoi twn topikwn arxwn.

Se dhlwsh toy pros ta Mesa Mazikhs Enhmerwshs amesws meta thn afijh toy, o Oikoymenikos Patriarxhs anefere:

``Ekfrazw th megalh moy xara poy briskomai kai pali sthn Ellada, ayth th fora proskeklhmenos toy adelfoy mhtropolitoy Elassonos. Opws eidate, etyxon qermhs ypodoxhs apo oloys toys foreis kai paragontes me epikefalhs ton Makariotato kai poly agaphton adelfon Arxiepiskopon Aqhnwn kai Pashs Ellados pros ton opoion kai pros oloys ekfrazw thn eygnwmosynh moy, gia ta aisqhmata toys.

Eimai perissotero apo bebaios oti qa exoyme eytyxh anastrofhn oles aytes tis hmeres sthn Elassona kai meqayrio sthn Tripolh kai qa epistrecw pali sto Fanari sthn Kwnstantinoypolin komisths aisqhmatwn sebasmoy kai agaphs toy eyseboys ellhnikoy laoy pros thn mhtera Ekklhsia ths Kwnstantinoypolhs.

Eyxomai se oloys sas, se olo ton ellhniko lao ola ta kala toy Qeoy kai metaferw thn eyxh kai thn eylogia ths mhtros Ekklhsias''.

O k. Barqolomaios efqse to meshmeri sthn Elassona, opoy kai toy epifylaxqhke pallaikh ypodoxh.

O k. Barqolomaios sthn omilia toy pros toys pistoys anefere metajy allwn:

``Erxomaste apo th martyrikh ekklhsia ths Kwnstantinoypolews sthn Perraibia, sthn Elassona, apo to fwteino Fanari, poy anablyzei pisth kai fws gia na ekfrasoyme thn agaph mas. Eisaste mia perioxh me spoydaia paradosh kai istoria sta baqh twn aiwnwn. Eiste se ena pleonektiko shmeio sto kentro ths Ellados, dipla ston myqiko Olympo''.

O k. Barqolomaios, kanontas mia anafora sth myqologia, sxoliase xarakthristika: ``Na shmeiwsw oti prepei na kratame apo th myqologia mono o,ti exei sxesh me to hqikoplastiko stoixeio kai na exoyme anoixta ta matia mas ston Kyrio''.

Ejalloy, o prokaqhmenos ths Orqodojias ypogrammise oti h perioxh ths Elassonas exei oles tis proypoqeseis wste na anadeixqei se protypo eyrwpaikhs eparxiakhs polhs.

Ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh prosfwnhse o dhmarxos Elassonas, Giwrgos Pasxopoylos, enw sth synexeia sthn panhgyrikh dojologia poy telesthke ston Iero Mhtropolitiko Nao Agioy Dhmhtrioy ton prosfwnhsan o mhtropoliths Elassonas Basileios kai o Genikos Grammateas Perifereias Qessalias, Fwths Gkoypas.

To apogeyma o k. Barqolomaios qa metabei gia proskynhma sthn Iera Monh Olympiwtissas Elassonas, enw qa episkefqei kai alles Mones ths perioxhs.

Ejalloy, qa egkainiasei to neo Pneymatiko Kentro kai Kentro Periballontikhs Ekpaideyshs Elassonas kai qa parastei sthn paroysiash toy Tomoy twn Keimhliwn ths Ieras Mhtropolhs Elassonas.

Thn Kyriakh qa telesei Patriarxikh Qeia Leitoyrgia eis Ieron Mhtropolitikon Naon Agioy Dhmhtrioy Elassonos.

Thn erxomenh Deytera o Patriarxhs qa episkefqei thn Tripolh ths Arkadias kai qa epistrecei sto Fanari thn Tetarth 23h Septembrioy.

Ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh synodeyoyn o mhtropoliths Pergamoy k. Iwannhs, o Agios Mosxonhsiwn k. Apostolos kai o Episkopos Nazianzoy k. Qeodwrhtos.

[03] Nea arxh stis sxeseis NATO-Rwsias

"Pisteyw oti einai dynaton gia to NATO kai th Rwsia na kanoyn mia nea arxh", dhlwse o genikos grammateas ths Symmaxias kata th diarkeia omilias toy stis Bryjelles, diatypwnontas treis sygkekrimenes protaseis. H prwth synistatai sthn amesh ejetash ths enisxyshs ths synergasias se oloys toys tomeis koinoy endiaferontos, opws o agwnas kata ths tromokratias, h diaspora twn oplwn mazikhs katastrofhs kai h staqeropoihshs toy Afganistan.

O genikos grammateas toy NATO proteinei epishs thn anazwogonhsh toy Symboylioy NATO -Rwsias wste na teqoyn ola ta qemata xwris prokatalhceis.

O Anters Fogk Rasmoysen proteine epishs th syndesh twn antipyraylikwn systhmatwn twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn, toy NATO kai ths Rwsias, "otan qa elqei h wra ...kaqws oi xwres mas kai oi enoples dynameis mas qa ginontai olo kai perissotero eyalwtes se pyraylikes epiqeseis".

"Den yparxei logos na fobomaste oti ta sxedia ayta qa apodynamwsoyn thn amyna opoioydhpote symmaxoy", shmeiwse.

"Antiqetws, ta nea sxedia qa mas katasthsoyn grhgorotera etoimoys apo ta prohgoymena sxedia kai qa mas prosferoyn eyryterh kalych", proseqese.

O genikos grammateas toy NATO zhthse epishs apo th Rwsia na enwqei me tis dytikes xwres "wste na askhqei to majimoym ths pieshs epi toys Iran, wste h Texeranh na egkataleicei tis pyrhnikes ths filodojies.

O rwsos presbeyths sto NATO Ntmitri Rogkozin ekrine shmera "poly qetikes" tis protaseis gia enisxysh ths synergasias ths Atlantikhs Symmaxias me th Rwsia, oi opoies eginan nwritera shmera apo ton geniko grammatea toy organismoy Anters Fogk Rasmoysen.

"Pisteyw oti (h omilia toy Rasmoysen) htan poly qetikh kai poly epoikodomhtikh kai ofeiloyme na analysoyme apo koinoy" tis protaseis toy, dhlwse o Rogkozin meta thn omilia toy Rasmoysen.

Ejalloy nwritera shmera kai o Rwsos prwqypoyrgos Blantimir Poytin eixe xairetisei thn amerikanikh apofash, xarakthrizontas th qetikh kai qarralea.

[04] "Anastrofh klimatos"

O k. Alogoskoyfhs dhlwnei oti twra h ND prepei na ejhghsei ston kosmo poy qa odhghsoyn oi dyskoles apofaseis poy proteinei o prwqypoyrgos, poso qa bohqhsoyn thn ellhnikh oikonomia, poso qa bohqhsoyn toys polites, poso qa bohqhsoyn thn mellontikh ejelijh toy biotikoy mas epipedoy, poso qa bohqhsoyn th xwra mas na janagyrisei sth qesh poy eixe prin apo thn krish.

Anaferetai sto PASOK kai kanei logo gia aqeath pleyra toy programmatos toy,thn opoia qa dei o kosmos an to epilejei gia kybernhsh, enw gia thn proswpikh toy diadromh tonizei oti oi anafores toy prwqypoyrgoy dikaiwnoyn thn politikh toy kai ton idio,enw tonizei oti politeyqhke pantote me synepeia kai eyqynh kai me ayta ta opla zhta ek neoy thn chfo twn chfoforwn sthn A' Aqhnwn.

H synenteyjh toy Giwrgoy Alogoskoyfh sto APE - MPE ston Kwsta Melissopoylo exei ws ejhs:

ER:Ti diakybeyetai s' aytes tis ekloges;

AP:Diakybeyetai, nomizw,to mellon oloklhrhs ths xwras. Den einai ena diakybeyma poy afora thn epomenh 4etia mono, egw pisteyw oti afora tis epomenes dekaeties, dioti prepei na ginoyn me poly megalyterh entash pragmata poy jekinhsan men apo to 2004, alla poy h dieqnhs krish apedeije oti prepei na ginoyn me megalyteres taxythtes, prepei na ginoyn me megalyterh entash, me megalyterh apofasistikothta.

ER:Aisqaneste dikaiwmenos apo tis anafores toy k. K. Karamanlh sthn oikonomikh politikh;

AP:Nomizw pws nai. Nomizw oti einai safes oti o k. Karamanlhs yposthrije thn politikh poy akoloyqhsame thn 4etia prin apo thn krish, h opoia odhghse, allwste, kai sthn megalyterh periodo oikonomikhs anaptyjhs poy ezhse h xwra tis teleytaies dekaeties, odhghse se meiwsh ths anergias, odhghse se beltiwsh toy biotikoy epipedoy, yposthrije oles moy tis prwtoboylies gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs sta prwta ths stadia. Kai nomizw, oti me dikaiwnei kai to gegonos oti meta apo mia prospaqeia mias mikrhs strofhs sthn oikonomikh politikh h ND epestrece ekei poy panta pisteya oti prepei na einai, oti prepei na akoloyqhsoyme mia staqerh politikh oson afora ta dhmosia oikonomika, thn antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs kai genika an qelete tis adynamies toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea.

ER:Omws oi dhmoskophseis, mexri ayth th stigmh, den eynooyn th Nea Dhmokratia. Pisteyete oti einai anastrecimo to klima kai pws mporei na ginei ayto dyo ebdomades prin apo thn eklogikh anametrhsh;

AP:Koitajte. Pisteyw oti einai anastrecimo, dioti h Nea Dhmokratia den edeije to kalytero ths proswpo ligo prin thn prokhryjh twn eklogwn kai ligo meta thn prokhryjh twn eklogwn. Yphrje mia polyfwnia, yphrjan fwnes kai an qelete kai prajeis kai paraleiceis poy den odhghsan sth syspeirwsh, alla sto antiqeto akribws apotelesma. Ayto poy xreiazomaste einai syspeirwsh. Nomizw oti twra pia poy exoyn perasei aytes oi prwtes meres kai oi prwtes adynamies, oloi mporoyme na epixeirhsoyme na syspeirwsoyme ton ellhniko lao pisw apo th ND, exoyme pei thn alhqeia, exoyme milhsei gia dyskoles apofaseis, kati poy spaniws ginetai s' ayth th xwra kai einai ejairetika ypeyqyno ek meroys toy prwqypoyrgoy. Kai nomizw oti exoyme th dynatothta, an oloi milame me mia fwnh, an yposthrijoyme to ergo mas giati ki ayto einai poly shmantiko, exw thn aisqhsh oti merikes fores den yposthrizoyme to ergo mas, prepei na yposthrijoyme to ergo mas, na milhsoyme gia to mellon, na milhsoyme gia thn prooptikh, gia ta dyskola xronia ta amesws epomena, alla kyriws kai gia ta xronia meta ta prwta dyskola xronia, giati ayto poy qelei o poliths einai na katalabei pws oi qysies toy qa exoyn apotelesma kai poy qa odhghsoyn.

ER:Epanw s' ayto...Pws sxoliazete to programma twn 100 hmerwn toy PASOK;

AP:Koitajte...To programma toy PASOK einai ena paradosiako proeklogiko programma,to opoio einai anefarmosto. Prospaqei na fanei eyxaristos se oles tis kathgories twn politwn o k. Papandreoy. Einai bebaion oti ayto to programma den mporei na efarmostei. Kai an ginei prospaqeia na efarmostei qa odhghsei sth megalyterh forologikh epidromh poy exei ypostei o Ellhnas poliths kai h mesaia tajh. Pisteyw oti h mesaia tajh qa plhrwsei to marmaro sthn periptwsh poy ginei prospaqeia na efarmostei ayto to programma. H ektimhsh moy einai oti den qa efarmostei. Hdh eixame tis prwtes proeidopoihtikes kroyseis amesws meta thn paroysiash toy k.Papandreoy. Apo tis Bryjelles o armodios Epitropos proeidopoihse ton k.Papandreoy oysiastika, oti jeroyn kai ta dyo politika kommata thn katastash ths oikonomias kai den mporoyn na lene pragmata ta opoia den efarmozontai. Kai eixame kai thn standard Repul, mia apo tis dyo megales etaireies ajiologhshs ths pistolhptikhs ikanothtas poy proeidopoihsan me ypobaqmish se periptwsh poy pame s' ayth thn kateyqynsh. Ayta, loipon, nomizw einai kampanakia ta opoia qa prepei na labei ypoch toy o ellhnikos laos, den prepei na ta parei elafria. Giati an chfisei Papandreoy pisteyontas oti qa kanei to ``A'', qa dei oti o k. Papandreoy qa kanei to ``B'', giati yparxei kai h aqeath pleyra, yparxei an qelete h aqeath pleyra toy feggarioy sto programma toy PASOK.

ER:Thn wra, omws, poy h Nea Dhmokratia milaei gia dyskoles apofaseis, to PASOK yposxetai prooptikh endexomenws me synepeies ola ayta poy eipate eseis prin. Ektimate omws oti einai wrimh h ellhnikh koinwnia wste na akoysei dysaresta pragmata kai na ta epilejei;

AP: Den nomizw oti prepei na meinoyme mono sta dysaresta. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe toys logoys toy poy epikentrwqhke stis dyskoles apofaseis gia na kanei ayth thn antiparaqesh metajy ypeyqynothtas kai aneyqynothtas. Alla prepei na ejhghsoyme twra poy qa odhghsoyn aytes oi dyskoles apofaseis, poso qa bohqhsoyn thn ellhnikh oikonomia, poso qa bohqhsoyn toys polites, poso qa bohqhsoyn thn mellontikh ejelijh toy biotikoy mas epipedoy, poso qa bohqhsoyn th xwra mas na janagyrisei sth qesh poy eixe prin apo thn krish, pws qa bohqhsei sto na mporesoyme na ekmetalleytoyme tis epixeirhseis sthn N.A. Eyrwph, na exoyme mia periodo anaptyjhs, na antimetwpisoyme thn anergia. Ayta prepei na ta ejhghsoyme, den prepei na meinoyme mono stis dyskoles apofaseis, prepei na poyme giati xreiazontai aytes oi dyskoles apofaseis, poy qa odhghsoyn aytes oi dyskoles apofaseis kai ti qa ginei an paroyme ton eykolo dromo pali poy mas exei odhghsei gia 30 sxedon xronia se ena faylo kyklo anaptyjhs men orismenes periodoys, alla kai dyskoliwn stis perissoteres periodoys.

ER:Kati embolimo...Giati yparxei to epixeirhma oti enw o poliths jerei ti qa ginei an epilejei ND, epilegontas to allo komma exei mia kryfh elpida oti qa kanei arketa ap' ayta poy exei yposxeqei.Pws to krinete ws epixeirhma ayto;

AP: Qewrw oti oi polites einai wrimoi. An epilejoyn par' elpida to PASOK den qa einai epeidh pistecan to programma toy.

ER: Giati qa einai;

AP: Qa einai gia alloys logoys, gia na timwrhsoyn th Nea Dhmokratia, gia na diamartyrhqoyn gia alla zhthmata poy den aptontai ths oikonomias, giati den einai mono h oikonomia. Bebaiws h Nea Dhmokratia poly swsta exei epikentrwqei sthn oikonomia kai sthn oikonomia pisteyw oti einai kai to sygkritiko mas pleonekthma,alla den einai mono h oikonomia, einai kai alla zhthmata symperiforwn poy plhgwsan toys polites ta prohgoymena xronia. Einai zhthmata hqoys ejoysias kai genika einai zhthmata kai mias kybernhtikhs fqoras. Mhn jexnate oti oi polites mas edwsan thn entolh kai epibrabeysan thn politikh mas to 2007 me megalh pleiochfia sto lao, allo poy h pleiochfia sto koinoboylio htan mikrh logw toy eklogikoy nomoy.Twra diakoptetai biaiws h kybernhtikh qhteia ths Neas Dhmokratias se mia para poly dyskolh sygkyria kai ayto mporei na exei kapoies epiptwseis. Egw par' ola ayta eimai aisiodojos kai paleyw gia na kerdisei h Nea Dhmokratia estw kai me mia chfo.

ER: Kati teleytaio poy sas afora proswpika. Eklegeste apo to 1996 kai apo to 2000 eklegeste me stayro. Giati na sas epilejei jana o poliths, o chfoforos ths A' Aqhnwn esas;

AP:Pisteyw oti se olh thn politikh diadromh exw epideijei synepeia, exw epideijei aisqhma eyqynhs kai exw parei apofaseis ws Ypoyrgos, alla kai otan hmoyn sthn antipoliteysh, oi opoies exoyn odhghsei pros to symferon ths xwras. Pisteyw oti h ypoyrgikh moy qhteia otan qa kriqei me antikeimenikothta meta apo merika xronia qa exei poly diaforetikh an qelete eikona ap' oti prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn shmera kapoioi dystyxws kai mesa sth Nea Dhmokratia. Ayto, loipon, poy zhtw apo toys polites einai na epibrabeysoyn mia diadromh, mia diadromh eyqynhs kai prooptikhs, mia diadromh h opoia xarakthrizetai apo synepeia, dioti sta xronia poy erxontai o kosmos xreiazetai anqrwpoys poy exoyn epideijei synepeia kai eyqynh.

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