[01] K.Karamanlhs: "Mh lysh shmainei mh prosklhsh"

O k. Liaphs apantwntas se erwthsh gia to zhthma ths onomasias ths PGDM tonise oti h qesh ths kybernhshs einai jekaqarh, ypenqymizontas oti diatypwqhke prosfata apo ton idio ton prwqypoyrgo kai shmeiwse oti ayth th qesh basika th sthrizoyn oi politikes dynameis toy topoy.

O ypoyrgos Politismoy tonise oti meta thn prosfath krish sto Ypoyrgeio, diamorfwnetai nea strathgikh me ejorqologismo twn dapanwn, enw h politikh twn epidothsewn, opws ypogrammise, qa ginetai me gnwmona to symferon toy politismoy kai oxi mikrokommatikes skopimothtes.

"Ta panta qa ajiologoyntai kai qa elegxontai. Yparxei diafaneia, oles oi apofaseis qa dhmosieyontai ki oles oi syzhthseis sta qesmika organa toy ypoyrgeioy qa einai anoixtes stoys dhmosiografoys", shmeiwse o k. Liaphs, ypogrammizontas oti stoxos einai h epanidrysh toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy.

"Apo ayth thn krish mporoyme na bgoyme enisxymenoi kai gi' ayto katargoyme ton periwnymo eidiko logariasmo. Oles oi dapanes apo ton kainoyrgio proypologismo qa einai ston taktiko proypologismo, wste na yparxoyn kaqhmerinoi elegxoi", shmeiwse o k. Liaphs.

Anefere akomh oti stoxos einai h enisxysh kai ths politistikhs klhronomias alla kai toy skeloys toy sygxronoy politismoy.

Anakoinwse akomh oti shmera sth Boylh pernaei mia tropologia, me bash thn opoia qa yparxei pleon sto ypoyrgeio Politismoy diaxeiristikh arxh, etsi wste na symmetexei to Ypoyrgeio sto D'KPS.

Ayto shmainei, eipe o k. Liaphs, oti gia ta epomena pente xronia to Ypoyrgeio Politismoy qa exei th dynatothta na kanei politistikes ependyseis me toys eyrwpaikoys poroys.

Htan mia megalh epityxia, shmeiwse, dioti ayth h tropologia htan apaithsh olwn twn politikwn dynamewn. Epishs anefere oti me ton prwqypoyrgo syzhthqhkan kai ta oikonomika qemata toy ypoyrgeioy, kaqws o politismos exei anagkh xrhmatwn kai shmeiwse pws to Ypoyrgeio exei thn ameristh enisxysh, sygkatabash kai proqymia toy prwqypoyrgoy, entos twn plaisiwn ths dhmosionomikhs politikhs, gia th sthrijh twn oikonomikwn toy.

O prwqypoyrgos, anefere o k. Liaphs, enhmerwqhke kai gia qemata aqlhtismoy kai kyriws gia to nomosxedio poy einai sxetiko me th bia sta ghpeda, to opoio brisketai sto stadio twn ypografwn kai entos twn prosexwn hmerwn qa syzhthqei sth Boylh.

O k.Liaphs apantwntas se erwthsh ean apodokimazei ta osa exoyn symbei sto parelqon kai an afhnei aixmes gia skandala, anefere oti "apo thn krish brhkame thn eykairia na diorqwsoyme kapoia pragmata. Toso sto qema ths ejygianshs twn oikonomikwn oso kai sth domh ths dioikhshs. Egw empisteyomai thn yphresiakh ierarxia. Eimai enantion twn megalwn ypoyrgikwn grafeiwn kai twn mystikosymboylwn".

K.Karamanlhs: "Mh lysh shmainei mh prosklhsh"

Sto metajy, idiaitera krisimo, apo diplwmatikhs pleyras, xarakthrizetai to prosexes trihmero, mexri th Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO, thn Tetarth sto Boykoyresti, kaqws steneyoyn ta periqwria gia ejeyresh lyshs sto qema ths onomasias ths PGDM.

H diapragmateysh qa synexistei mexri thn teleytaia stigmh, dhlwse h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Ntora Mpakogiannh. An den breqei koina apodekth lysh, tote h Ellada qa askhsei beto sthn entajh twn Skopiwn sto NATO, katesthse safes o prwqypoyrgos legontas xarakthristika pws "mh lysh shmainei kai mh prosklhsh".

Apogohteytiko xarakthrise o k.Kwstas Karamanlhs to gegonos oti kai twra, se ayth thn krisimh stigmh ths diapragmateyshs gia thn onomasia ths PGDM, h hgesia toy geitonikoy kratoys epideiknyei staqera arnhtikh kai antiparagwgikh symperifora.

Apo to bhma ths Boylhs, epanelabe oti ``mono amoibaia apodekth lysh, epikyrwmenh apo to Symboylio Asfaleias, dhladh mia lysh synektikh kai sfairikh, me eparkeis eggyhseis efarmoghs, mporei na einai h bash gia thn oikodomhsh symmaxikwn sxesewn kai sxesewn allhleggyhs''. Ean oxi, tonise o k. Karamanlhs, einai jekaqaro oti sto stadio ayto ths polyxronhs kai synexizomenos diapragmateyshs ``den qa exoyme lysh. Kai mh lysh shmainei mh prosklhsh''. O prwqypoyrgos prosqese oti (sthn periptwsh ayth) h Ellada qa synexisei na metexei sthn ypo ton OHE diapragmateytikh diadikasia, me th metriopaqeia kai thn apofasistikothta poy diakrinei th stash ths.

Q.Roysopoylos: "H qesh mas einai gnwsth"

O kybernhtikos ekproswpos Q. Roysopoylos erwthqeis gia to qema ths onomasias ths PGDM kai an yparxoyn xronika periqwria gia lysh mexri th Synodo toy NATO, dhlwse oti ayto apantietai apo toys xronoys.

Prosqese oti an yparjei tetoia protash h opoia na mporei na syzhthqei kai, sto metajy, ginei kai h diadikasia poy prepei sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE h apanthsh einai qetikh, enw se diaforetikh periptwsh arnhtikh.

Symplhrwse legontas oti einai gnwsth h jekaqarh qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, h opoia - opws shmeiwse - den xwraei kanenos eidoys parermhneia, briskei symfwnes tis perissoteres, an oxi oles, tis politikes dynameis kai thn aneptyje polles fores o prwqypoyrgos, opws thn Paraskeyh, sth Boylh.

Erwthqeis an dexomaste pieseis apo tis HPA ki an yparxei piqanothta synanthshs toy Kwsta Karamanlh me ton amerikano Proedro Mpoys, o k. Roysopoylos shmeiwse oti to prwto erwthma exei apanthqei polles fores, gia de to deytero eipe oti den exei kati tetoio ypoch toy.

"Den apokleietai na ginei opoiadhpote synanthsh zhthqei", prosqese kai sth synexeia anaferomenos se dhmosieyma twn "New York Times" eipe oti den sxoliazei sxolia dhmosieymatwn kai oti h Ellada einai se diadikasia ejeyreshs lyshs.

"Th qeloyme, thn epiqymoyme. Exoyme kanei ta adynata dynata etsi wste na mporesoyme na peisoyme toys geitones mas oti qa prepei na kanoyn bhmata pros thn kateyqynsh ths lyshs. Den eimaste, bebaiws, diateqeimenoi na kanoyme ypoxwrhseis peran twn shmeiwn twn opoiwn exoyme paei, ta opoia einai jekaqara kai qewroyme oti mporoyn na ikanopoihsoyn kai to aisqhma toy ellhna polith, alla kai to dikaio poy aporreei apo thn istoria", anefere.

Kai prosqese pws einai bebaio oti oi epomenes hmeres exoyn idiaitero endiaferon, h de qesh mas einai pagiwmenh kai gnwsth se oloys.

Gia ta dhmosieymata poy kanoyn logo gia ekbiasmo poy feretai na dexetai h kybernhsh, o ekproswpos apanthse oti den yparxei ekbiasmos kai oti h kybernhsh kai h xwra den ekbiazontai.

"Qa hqela na parakalesw na krathsoyme oloi tonoys tetoioys oi opoioi qa bohqhsoyn thn enisxysh ths diapragmateytikhs qeshs ths xwras mas", eipe.

Erwthqeis gia to endexomeno mias prosklhshs ths PGDM sto NATO ypo airesh, apanthse arnhtika.

"Den prokyptei kati tetoio apo tis dhmosies topoqethseis toy prwqypoyrgoy", tonise kai se epomenh erwthsh an qa antejoyme thn apomonwsh, dedomenoy oti oi HPA, h Germania ki alles xwres exoyn taxqei yper ths entajhs ths PGDM sto NATO, apanthse legontas oti h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei, me bash to dikaio, gia thn istoria sthn perioxh, gia th dhmioyrgia proypoqesewn wste pragmatika na beltiwqoyn oi sxeseis sta Balkania metajy twn geitonwn.

Shmeiwse de oti h Ellada einai mia xwra-melos toy NATO edw kai 55 xronia kai exei apodeijei th dynamikh ths kai tonise pws otan exei jekaqarh qesh epimenei kai polemaei me kaqe oplo, sto plaisio twn dieqnwn kanonwn.

Oso gia to endexomeno mias prosklhshs sto NATO ths geitonikhs xwras ws PGDM, opws anaferetai kai sthn Endiamesh Symfwnia, o k. Roysopoylos eipe oti yparxoyn -sth sygkekrimenh symfwnia- kai anafores stis sxeseis kalhs geitonias, dhladh mia seira apo zhthmata, pera twn typikwn stoixeiwn.

Erwthqeis an apotelei kataggelia ths Endiameshs Symfwnias h qesh toy ekproswpoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn G. Koymoytsakoy kata ths entajhs ths geitonikhs xwras ws PGDM, eipe oti den qa ekane ayth thn ermhneia.

"H qesh mas einai gnwsth gia na ginoyn ta Skopia melos toy NATO kai ths EE. Sebomaste toys dieqneis kanones. Ayto prepei na apodeiknyei kaqe xwra poy qelei na entaxqei s'aytoys toys organismoys", eipe.

Se erwthsh an yphrje aifnidiasmos ths kybernhshs meta to thlefwnhma ths kas K. Rais sthn ka Nt. Mpakogiannh, anefere oti se mia diadikasia, opws ayth, den aifnidiasthke se kamia periptwsh h kybernhsh kai den qa htan nohto na aifnidiastei apo thn prospaqeia ths Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn twn HPA na epixeirhmatologhsei yper ths entajhs twn newn xwrwn sto NATO.

"H Ntora Mpakogiannh epixeirhmatologhse me sobara, dynata, dynamika epixeirhmata ta opoia exoyn akoystei sthn allh pleyra, oxi mono stis xwres-melh toy NATO, alla kai se alles xwres, oi opoies exoyn deijei endiaferon kai exoyn enhmerwqei apo emas", anefere.

O ekproswpos parepemce se dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia to qema ths prosbolhs ths ellhnikhs shmaias sth geitona.

Se erwthsh an o Proedros Mpoys mporei na einai eggyhths gia sxeseis kalhs geitonias, eipe oti tis sxeseis kalhs geitonias tis eggywntai oi dieqneis synqhkes, enw gia to logo poy o prwqypoyrgos den anaferqhke se gewgrafiko prosdiorismo stis prosfates topoqethseis toy, apanthse oti o k. Karamanlhs exei anaferqei se prosdiorismo kai h qesh mas einai gnwsth se oloys.

Se erwthsh an qa sygklhqei to Symboylio twn politikwn arxhgwn ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, eipe oti den yparxei kati poy mporei na pei kai shmeiwse oti o Kwstas Karamanlhs eixe sygkalesei symboylio politikwn arxhgwn ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia to sxedio Anan kai h kybernhsh ths ND exei deijei to sebasmo ths s' ayth thn ypoqesh, enw symplhrwse oti h jekaqarh qesh ths briskei ena poly megalo meros twn politikwn dynamewn symfwno gia to xeirismo.

Se allh erwthsh an mia protash mporei na erqei prin th Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO h kai kata th diarkeia ths, eipe oti yparxei diadikasia gia ton OHE kai tonise oti "den prokeitai na arnhqoyme syzhthsh se kamia periptwsh kai sth diarkeia poy qa eimaste sto Boykoyresti apo opoion symmaxo qelhsei na syzhthsoyme. Qa epidiwjoyme kai syzhthseis opws egine kai prosfata sth Synodo Koryfhs stis Bryjelles wste na enhmerwsoyme gia to qema twn Skopiwn".

Epishs eipe oti h prwtoboylia gia lysh anhkei ston OHE kai prepei na plhrwqoyn oi kanones, ypo ton OHE, gia na breqei lysh.

Dhlwseis Nt.Mpakogiannh

Thn staqerothta kai thn anaptyjh oloklhrhs ths perioxhs twn Balkaniwn, alla panw se swstes baseis epiqymei h Ellada, shmeiwse h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Ntora Mpakogiannh, meta to telos twn ergasiwn toy atypoy Symboylioy twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs (Gymnich). Erwthqeisa sxetikws me to periexomeno ths epikoinwnias poy eixe me thn Amerikanida omologo ths Kontoliza Rais, dhlwse: "Eixa mia makra kai eilikrinh syzhthsh me thn kyria Rais. Eixa thn eykairia na epanalabw tis ellhnikes qeseis tis opoies aneptyja kai sthn Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Tonisa dhladh oti h Ellada einai mia xwra ths perioxhs h opoia kat'ejoxhn endiaferetai gia thn staqerothta kai thn anaptyjh se olh thn perioxh twn Balkaniwn. Epiqymei omws ayth h anaptyjh kai h staqerothta na ginei panw se swstes baseis. Kai swsth bash einai h epilysh xroniwn problhmatwn, ena apo ta opoia bebaiws einai kai to onoma, to opoio diapragmateyomaste, sto plaisio toy OHE me thn PGDM". Se o,ti afora thn Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO kai thn sxediazomenh dieyrynsh ths Symmaxias sta Dytika Balkania, h ypoyrgos dhlwse oti " dieyrynsh gia thn dieyrynsh den einai stoxos, stoxos einai na yparjei h dieyrynsh toy NATO, na yparjoyn symmaxikes sxeseis, oi opoies qa oikodomoyntai stis baseis, tis opoies oloi pisteyoyme".

Apantwntas se erwthsh sxetikws me to ean h teleytaia protash toy diamesolabhth toy OHE Maqioy Nimits qewreitai telikh, h kyria Mpakogiannh tonise: " Den yparxoyn stis diapragmateyseis telikes protaseis. Telikes lyseis eyxomaste na yparjoyn. H diapragmateysh synexizetai kai qa thn synexisoyme me thn kalh qelhsh, h opoia diekrine thn xwra mas apo thn prwth stigmh".

Erwthqeisa apo dieqnh MME ean yparxei arketos xronos prokeimenoy na dieyqethqei to zhthma ths onomasias prin apo thn Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO, h ka Mpakogiannh epishmane oti "menoyn mono dyo-treis meres ws thn Synodo, opote einai kapws dyskolo gia aythn thn Synodo, alla qa synexisoyme tis diapragmateyseis". H ypoyrgos epanelabe akomh oti pepoiqhsh ths Elladas einai oti "oi symmaxikes sxeseis prepei na sthrizontai se poly isxyres baseis kai oti ta problhmata toy xqes prepei na fygoyn apo thn mesh. Qa synexisoyme thn diapragmateysh ews otoy epityxoyme mia amoibaia apodekth lysh".

Dhlwseis Antonio Milososki

Thn idia wra o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn Antonio Milososki, synexizei tis proklhtikes toy dhlwseis, kathgorwntas anoixta thn ellhnikh pleyra oti epixeirei na mpoykotarei th dieyrynsh toy NATO gia na brei dikaiologia sta eswterika problhmata ths xwras, kai kyriws sta politika. Parallhla apekleise kaqe endexomeno ypobolhs neas protashs Nimits, qewrwntas oti h teleytaia poy ypoblhqhke prin apo liges meres apo ton Amerikano diapragmateyth, htan h telikh.

Epishs, o k. Milososki ektimhse oti h Synodos toy Boykoyrestioy qa exei istorikh diastash, toso gia to NATO, oso kai gia thn perioxh, enw xarakthrise ws epityxh th symmetoxh ths xwras sthn atyph synodo twn YPEJ ths EE, kaqws, opws anefere, gia prwth fora anakoinwsh ths EE epishmainei oti h xwra einai etoimh gia mia isxyrh fash se oti afora thn proseggish ths sthn EE. "Epomeno stadio einai h enarjh entajiakwn diapragmateysewn. Aytos einai o stoxos mas gia to 2008", prosqese o k. Milososki.

Diabhma toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia thn ellhnikh shmaia

Se diabhma diamartyrias proebh to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn pros sta Skopia me aithma na aposyrqei diafhmistikh afisa poy kykloforhse sthn PGDM kai paroysiazei thn Ellhnikh shmaia me agkylwto stayro.

``H aparadekth afisa poy ekdoqhke me idiwtikh prwtoboylia kai anarthqhke se dromoys twn Skopiwn, prosballei eyqews to eqniko symbolo ths xwras mas kai ton agwna ths enantion toy fasismoy kai toy nazismoy", dhlwse o ekproswpos Typoy toy YPEJ k.G.Koymoytsakos.

"To gegonos ayto apodeiknyei poso megalos laqos kanoyn oloi ekeinoi poy ependyoyn ston eqnikismo kai th misallodojia. Epibebaiwnei, gia mia akoma fora, thn orqothta ths ellhnikhs qeshs oti aparaithth proypoqesh gia thn oikodomhsh sxesewn symmaxias kai allhleggyhs einai o empraktos sebasmos twn sxesewn kalhs geitonias metajy xwrwn kai lawn".

[02] "Shmantikes metarryqmiseis"

O ypoyrgos ekane logo gia "fobika syndroma", ta opoia ekdhlwnontai kaqe fora poy epixeireitai mia megalh eisagwgh kefalaiwn sthn Ellada, h opoia odhgei se metasxhmatismo thn ellhnikh oikonomia, opws epishs kaqe fora poy ginetai mia megalh apokratikopoihsh h epixeireitai mia shmantikh strathgikh symmaxia.

O k. Alogoskoyfhs, anaferomenos sto kybernhtiko programma, tonise oti prowqoyntai shmantikes metarryqmiseis, xwris na ypologizetai to politiko kostos, kai ypogrammise oti h kybernhsh "protima na einai xrhsimh para eyxaristh". "Kaqe mera proxwroyme ena bhma mprosta, para tis antidraseis poy yparxoyn", shmeiwse o ypoyrgos kai prosqese oti h kybernhsh exei protaseis kai to qarros na tis ylopoiei.

Ws apta apotelesmata twn oikonomikwn metarryqmisewn, o ypoyrgos anefere th meiwsh toy dhmosionomikoy elleimmatos apo to 7,3% toy AEP poy htan to 2004, katw apo to 3% toy AEP to 2006 kai to 2007.

Anaferomenos eidikotera sthn politikh twn apokratikopoihsewn, o k.Alogoskoyfhs epeshmane oti h kybernhsh proxwra me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon kai thn enisxysh toy antagwnismoy sthn agora. Fernontas ws paradeigma ta pepragmena sto xwro twn trapezwn, tonise oti epiteyxqhke h ayjhsh toy antagwnismoy pros ofelos twn epixeirhsewn kai twn pelatwn.

Ston OTE, eipe o ypoyrgos, epidiwketai strathgikh symmaxia me ena shmantiko, isws to shmantikotero, eyrwpaiko thlepikoinwniako organismo. Opws anefere, hdh exei ekdhlwqei endiaferon apo thn Ntoitse Telekom kai exoyn arxisei diapragmateyseis gia thn ypografh symfwnias metoxwn poy qa ejasfalizei ena isorrophmeno dioikhtiko sxhma, enw me th synergasia ayth epidiwketai h anaptyjh kai o eksygxronismos toy OTE oxi mono sthn Ellada, alla kai sthn eyryterh gewgrafikh perioxh. Parallhla, eipe, "epixeiroyme na diasfalisoyme, mhn exete kamia amfibolia, kai ta eqnika kai ta politika mas symferonta".

O k.Alogoskoyfhs ejhghse oti yparxoyn akoma megales diarqrwtikes adynamies sthn oikonomia ths xwras, me to Dhmosio, opws eipe, na paramenei o megalos asqenhs kai etsi, para thn proodo poy exei shmeiwqei sthn meiwsh toy dhmosionomikoy elleimmatos, xreiazetai akomh prospaqeia gia na ftasoyme sthn oloklhrwsh ths dhmosionomikhs ejygianshs. H epomenh prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs afora sthn enisxysh ths diafaneias se dhmosioys organismoys, se dhmosia nosokomeia, se dhmosia tameia, se organismoys topikhs aytodioikhshs k.a.

Se o,ti afora th symfwnia twn koinwnikwn etairwn gia thn eqnikh genikh syllogikh symbash ergasias 2008-09, o ypoyrgos eipe oti qa odhghsei se peraiterw beltiwsh twn pragmatikwn eisodhmatwn, xwris epipleon epiptwseis ston plhqwrismo. Parallhla, ektimhse oti oi epiptwseis sthn Ellada apo thn dieqnh arnhtikh oikonomikh sygkyria qa einai mikres, tonizontas oti akoma kai to 2008 h Ellada qa exei diplasio ryqmo anaptyjhs apo to meso oro twn xwrwn ths eyrwzwnhs.

H istorikh diadromh toy SEB xarakthrizetai apo th diatypwsh qesewn kai apocewn, oi opoies eixan panta san stoxo thn prowqhsh twn symferontwn ths Elladas, ypogrammise sthn omilia toy o antiproedros toy Syndesmoy Qeodwros Fessas, shmeiwnontas oti kai pali o SEB einai se qesh na prowqhsei qeseis kai protaseis, oi opoies einai gia to symferon ths xwras se mia krisimh gia th xwra sygkyria, sthn opoia h antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias paramenei staqera kaqhlwmenh.

To diakybeyma, opws anefere o k. Fessas, den einai mono h beltiwsh toy epixeirhmatikoy periballontos kai h anaptyjh twn epixeirhsewn, einai kai h proodos ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, kaqws apo th beltiwsh toy epixeirhmatikoy periballontos ejartatai h diathrhsh kai h enisxysh twn ryqmwn anaptyjhs ths xwras se ena eymetablhto dieqnes periballon.

Apo thn pleyra toy, eipe, o SEB prosblepei sthn ylopoihsh twn stoxwn ths kybernhshs, opws anaferontai sto epikairopoihmeno Programma Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs 2007-2012, opoy perilambanetai plhqwra diarqrwtikwn metarryqmisewn poy qa beltiwsoyn to epixeirhmatiko periballon kai qa proselkysoyn shmantikes ependyseis.

O k. Fessas prosqese oti paramenei epikairh h protash toy SEB, hdh apo to 2005, poy afora sto epomeno Eqniko Programma Metarryqmisewn, opoy h hgesia toy SEB eyelpistei h kybernhsh na desmeytei se sygkekrimenoys stoxoys kai xronodiagrammata.

Tis apoceis toys sthn ekdhlwsh epishs ejefrasan oi Stefanos Manos, prwhn ypoyrgos, Nikos Analyths, prwhn antiproedros toy SEB, Giwrgos Tsatsos, prwhn antiproedros toy SEB kai h Xristina Agriantwnh, kaqhghtria istorias toy panepisthmioy Qessalias.

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