[01] K.Karamanlhs: "Mh lysh shmainei mh prosklhsh"

Oi k.k. Karamanlhs kai Fiko tonisan pws epanabebaiwqhke to kalo klima metajy twn dyo xwrwn, o de ellhnas prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke stis sxeseis ths xwras mas me th Slobakia sthn EE kai to NATO kai shmeiwse oti syzhthqhkan oi prooptikes peraiterw anaptyjhs twn dimerwn oikonomikwn sxesewn.

Yparxoyn periqwria gia peraiterw prowqhsh twn oikonomikwn sxesewn kai peraiterw synergasia se qemata politismoy,toyrismoy, ereynas kai texnologias kai energeias, eipe.

O K.Karamanlhs anefere epishs oti h xwra mas apodidei megalh shmasia sthn kyrwsh ths Synqhkhs ths Lisabonas kai tonise oti me to slobako prwqypoyrgo syzhthqhkan oi ejelijeis sta Balkania kai doqhke emfash sthn anagkh staqerothtas kai eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs sthn eyryterh perioxh.

O Slobakos prwqypoyrgos zhthse pio stenh oikonomikh synergasia me thn Ellada, ayjhsh toy ariqmoy twn Ellhnwn ependytwn sth xwra toy kai kalese ton k. K. Karamanlh na episkefqei epishmws th Slobakia me klimakio Ellhnwn epixeirhmatiwn.

Eipe akomh oti oi syzhthseis aforoysan dyo tomeis: thn kratikh bohqeia apo pleyras Slobakias se ependyseis ston toyristiko tomea kai sth synergasia ston tomea amyntikhs biomhxanias.

Sto ameso mellon, eipe,qa ypografei ypomnhma metajy twn dyo xwrwn gia synergasia ston tomea ths amyntikhs biomhxanias.

Anaferomenos sto Kosobo o k. R. Fiko eipe oti oi qeseis ths xwras toy einai konta stis ellhnikes qeseis, enw eipe akomh oti h dhmioyrgia toy Kosoboy einai periptwsh parabiashs toy dieqnoys dikaioy kai pws qa dyskoleytei poly h xwra toy gia na anagnwrisei to Kosobo.

Telos, desmeythke oti qa kyrwsei h xwra toy th Synqhkh ths Lisabonas.

Mhnyma sthn PGDM

Sfes mhnyma pros ta Skopia apesteile ek neoy o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs.

Apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis meta to peras ths synanthshs toy me ton Slobako omologo toy Romper Fiko, o prwqypoyrgos epanelabe pws mh lysh sto problhma ths onomasias shmainei mh prosklhsh sto NATO.

Anazhtoyme, eipe, amoibaia apodekth lysh, opws epitassei to Symboylio Asfaleias, alla kai o eyrwpaikos tropos epilyshs diaforwn.

Emeis kaname bhmata mprosta kai anamenoyme apo thn PGDM na kanei kai ayth bhmata mprosta, tonise kai prosqese oti exoyme ameso endiaferon gia ta Balkania, yposthrizoyme thn eyrwatlantikh poreia twn xwrwn, alla h staqerothta ejartatai apo tis sxeseis kalhs geitonias ki ayto tiqetai kai ws krithrio ajiologhshs kai apo to NATO.

H Ellada, eipe o prwqypoyrgos, den mporei na qewrhsei oti plhroyntai ta krithria ayta, efoson h PGDM epimenei sth stash ths. H qesh mas einai safhs: mh lysh shmainei mh prosklhsh sto NATO, jekaqarise o k. Karamanlhs.

Anaferomenos stis ejelijeis sto Kosobo o prwqypoyrgos tonise oti prepei na diasfalistei h paroysia ths KFOR kai prwtisto zhtoymeno einai h eirhnh kai h staqerothta.

Mas endiaferei, epanelabe, h eyrwpaikh prooptikh twn xwrwn ths perioxhs kai eidika ths Serbias, prooptikh gia thn opoia ergazomaste, enw anaferomenos sto endexomeno anagnwrish toy Kosoboy apo th xwra mas, eipe oti h Ellada den aisqanetai bia kai piesh kai pws qa parei tis apofaseis ths me gnwmona ta eqnika symferonta.

O Slobakos prwqypoyrgos eipe oti den gnwrizei allh perioxh poy mia eqnikothta na exei dyo krath. Prokeitai, eipe, gia parabash toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy poy mporei na odhghsei se anisorropia kai alles xwres oi opoies exoyn meionothtes.

Episkech toy g.g. toy NATO - Dhlwseis K.Papoylia

O prwqypoyrgos k.Kwstas Karamanlhs synanthqhke sto Megaro Majimoy me to geniko grammatea toy NATO Giap nte Xop Sefer, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Boreioatlantikhs Symmaxias poy qa pragmatopoihqei stis arxes Aprilioy. Meta th synanthsh den eginan dhlwseis.

To meshmeri, o k. Sefer egine dektos apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Karolo Papoylia, enw synanthqhke kai me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ka Ntora Mpakogiannh.

O k. Papoylias tonise ston g.g. toy NATO oti h qesh thn opoia elabe sth Boylh o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs (anaforika me thn onomasia ths PGDM kai thn prosklhsh gia entajh ths sthn atlantikh symmaxia) einai "para poly kaqarh".

Elpizw, tonise o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, "na to syzhthsoyme kai na broyme tropoys" kai prosqese oti "katalabainw oti kai gia to NATO einai ena problhma, alla perissotero apo to NATO einai gia thn Ellada".

Ypodexomenos ton k. Sefer, o k.Papoylias shmeiwse oti "einai mia stigmh poly endiaferoysa poy synantiomaste kai istorika moy erxetai sto myalo mia allh synanthsh me enan prokatoxo sas (Geniko Grammatea toy NATO) ton lordo Karrigkton, o opoios synebale apofasistika sto na jeperasoyme mia krish poy eixame tote me thn Toyrkia".

O k. Papoylias ejefrase thn elpida oti "to problhma poy exoyme qa syzhthsoyme kai qa mporesoyme na to jeperasoyme. Kai prepei na sas pw oti exw zhsei ayth thn istoria (s.s. me thn PGDM) ws ypoyrgos twn Ejwterikwn kai mporw na th synocisw me dyo lejeis, oti ekeinh thn adiallajia poy synanthsa tote, ws ypoyrgos, ejakoloyqei shmera na thn epideiknyei analloiwth h politikh hgesia twn Skopiwn".

Dhlwseis Mpakogiannh-Sefer

"Aparabath proypoqesh gia thn dieyrynsh kaqe Symmaxias, gia th dhmioyrgia kai oikodomhsh kaqe symmaxikoy desmoy allhleggyhs, einai h aparegklith thrhsh twn arxwn, ajiwn kai kanonwn poy diepoyn thn omalh leitoyrgia kaqe Symmaxias", epeshmane h ka Mpakogiannh, amesws meta thn synanthsh ths me ton g.g. toy NATO kai tonise oti "qemeliwdhs arxh kaqe Symmaxias einai oti otan krath - melh deixnoyn emprakta thn allhleggyh toys, na einai eylogo na thn anamenoyn stis sxeseis toys me trites xwres apo etairoys kai symmaxoys".

H ka Mpakogiannh prosqese oti gia thn dieyrynsh einai aparabath proypoqesh "na mhn yparxoyn metajy enos kratoys meloys kai enos ypochfioy kratoys anoixta zhthmata, zhthmata poy ephreazoyn arnhtika tis metajy toys sxeseis" kai epanelabe thn pepoiqhsh ths Elladas oti ta problhmata "den prepei na diaiwnizontai, antiqeta, prepei na lynontai me tropo amoibaia apodekto, oristiko, praktiko kai amesa efarmosimo. H apoysia tetoiwn lysewn se kairia zhthmata sxesewn kalhs geitonias, den epitrepei thn dhmioyrgia sxesewn symmaxias".

H ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn anedeije akomh to gegonos oti h Ellada apotelei epi 55 xronia isxyro symmaxo toy NATO, ton palaiotero se ayth thn eypaqh perioxh ths Eyrwphs kai ejefrase epishs tis anhsyxies ths Elladas gia to endexomeno apostaqeropoihshs ths perioxhs, an parameinoyn alyta tetoia problhmata eqnikistikhs kai alytrwtikhs logikhs. Epishmane de oti "h stigmh gia lysh koina apodekth einai twra".

Anaferomenh sta dyo alla qemata ths atzentas ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO, h opoia qa pragmatopoihqei ton Aprilio sto Boykoyresti, thn ejelijh twn dyo apostolwn sto Kosobo kai to Afganistan, epishmane thn syneisfora ths Elladas, me synolika 2000 atoma kata to 2007. "Einai mia emprakth apodeijh ths epi 55 xronia symmetoxhs allhleggyhs ths Elladas sthn genikoterh prospaqeia ths Symmaxias. Se ayth, idiaiterh qesh katexei h symbolh mas sthn katanomh twn symmaxikwn barwn, me amyntikes dapanes poy anerxontai sto 3% toy AEP mas. Pisteyw oti h qemeliwdhs arxh kaqe Symmaxias einai oti otan krath - melh dinoyn emprakta thn allhleggyh toys, na einai eylogo na thn anamenoyn stis sxeseis toys me trites xwres apo etairoys kai symmaxoys", tonise h ypoyrgos.

Apo thn pleyra toy o Genikos Grammateas ths Symmaxias ekane logo gia anoixtes portes toy NATO, alla gia diadikasia entajhs h opoia einai basismenh sthn epidosh kaqe ypochfias xwras kai ginetai mono me thn synainesh olwn twn kratwn - melwn. "H prosklhsh ginetai me ayto to krithrio, thn epidosh kai apeyqynetai mono efoson ta 26 melh ths Symmaxias symfwnoyn", dhlwse. Anaferomenos sto zhthma ths onomasias ths PGDM, o k. Sefer tonise oti to NATO den empleketai amesa sthn diadikasia, h opoia syntonizetai apo ton OHE kai ton Maqioy Nimits, alla exei kaqe endiaferon gia thn ejelijh kai elpizei na katalhjoyme se synainesh enocei ths Synodoy toy Aprilioy. "Qa prepei ayth h synainesh na einai efikth, wstoso", prosqese kai epanelabe oti "h "epidosh" apotelei lejh - kleidi kai gia to qema ths onomasias ths PGDM. Yparxei diafora anamesa sto na einai kaneis melos kai sto na mhn einai. Elpizw na ejeyreqei mia lysh, qa apotelesei megalo pleonekthma".

Apantwntas se erwthsh sxetika me to ean to zhthma ths onomasias synista parabiash twn sxesewn kalhs geitonias apo thn pleyra twn Skopiwn, shmeiwse oti, opws kai gia thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai ton OHE, etsi kai gia to NATO einai aytonohto oti oi sxeseis kalhs geitonias apoteloyn qema arxhs. Tonise akomh oti prepei na ginei katanohto oti "ola ta epidoja melh den einai melh" kai oti yparxei diafora anamesa se ena isxyro kratos - melos kai se ena mh - melos.

Erwthqeis ean zhthse apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh megalyterh symmetoxh sthn apostolh toy NATO sto Afganistan, o k. Sefer tonise oti zhta megalyterh symmetoxh apo ola ta krath - melh ths Symmaxias, oxi eidika apo thn Ellada.

[02] "Syntonismos Aqhnwn-Leykwsias"

Ayto dhlwse, se apokleistikh synenteyjh sto APE-MPE, o Dhmhtrhs Xristofias, o opoios erxetai ayrio sthn Aqhna, gia thn prwth epishmh episkech toy meta thn anadeijh toy sto proedriko ajiwma

O Kyprios proedros ekfrazei thn bebaiothta oti h Ellada qa einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy sthn prospaqeia na anabiwsei enas dialogos gia ylopoihsh ths symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy 2006.

Epishs, prosqetei, oti endiaferetai na enhmerwqei gia tis ejelijeis se sxesh me thn PGDM.

O Proedros Xristofias apokalyptei oti sthn prwth synanthsh toy me ton Toyrkokyprio hgeth Mexmet Ali Talat qa ton rwthsei, poio einai to empodio gia na efarmostei h symfwnia ths 8hs Ioylioy, 2006. H synanthsh qa einai diereynhtikoy xarakthra kai topoqeteitai meta tis 15 Martioy.

O Kyprios proedros ektima oti:

- H epistolh Talat pros ton geniko grammatea twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn "prokatalambanei kapoia pragmata".

- Qa htan megalo sfalma enas apeyqeias dialogos metajy toy idioy kai toy k. Talat, xwris thn parembolh mesolabhtwn, giati, opws ejhgei, to plaisio gia thn anazhthsh ths lyshs toy kypriakoy einai ta Hnwmena Eqnh.

O Proedros Xristofias, o opoios dexqhke to APE-MPE sto grafeio toy, meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton eidiko antiproswpo twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn Maikl Moler, dhlwnei oti qelei na einai sygkrathmenos kai epifylassetai na apanthsei sto erwthma ean me thn enarjh oysiastikwn diapragmateysewn qa prepei h Ammoxwstos na paradoqei apo thn toyrkikh pleyra sta Hnwmena Eqnh.

To plhres keimeno ths apokleistikhs synenteyjhs toy Kyprioy proedroy einai to akoloyqo:

Erwthsh: Pera apo ton aytonohto symbolismo ths episkecews sas sthn Aqhna, poios qa einai o stoxos twn synomiliwn sas me thn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

Apanthsh: H eklogh neoy Proedroy exei prokalesei apo monh ths mia kinhtikothta. Qa synanthqw me ton kyrio Talat. H prwth synanthsh qa einai diereynhtikh. Apo ekei kai pera yparxoyn kai zhthmata, ta opoia exoyn sxesh me Metra Oikodomhshs Empistosynhs, th dianoijh ths odoy Lhdras kai toy odofragmatos toy Limnith.

Yparxei eyrytera mia kinhtikothta apo ta Hnwmena Eqnh, to Symboylio Asfaleias. Qelw na enhmerwsw ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai na antallajoyme apoceis gia tis epikeimenes ejelijeis. Qa ginei filikh antallagh apocewn kai eimai sigoyros oti h Ellada qa einai sto pleyro mas sthn prospaqeia na anabiwsei enas dialogos gia ylopoihsh ths Symfwnias ths 8hs Ioylioy. Mprosta mas einai kai h Synodos Koryfhs ths EE gia thn opoia qa antallajoyme apoceis. Bebaiws, endiaferomai na enhmerwqw kai gia tis ejelijeis se sxesh me ta Skopia. Den qa paw sthn Aqhna gia na ktisw sxeseis. Yphrxe agasth synergasia kai me ton tews Proedro Papadopoylo, alla kai egw ws Proedros ths Boylhs eixa poly kales sxeseis me olh thn politikh hgesia ths Ellados.

Erwthsh: Qa teqoyn kapoies kateyqynthries grammes gia to pws qa proxwrhsoyn sto ejhs Leykwsia kai Aqhna;

Apanthsh: Nomizw oti oi kateyqynthries grammes yparxoyn. Xreiazetai enhmerwsh kai syntonismos.

Erwthsh: H synanthsh sas me ton k. Talat qa ginei meta thn epistrofh sas apo tis Bryjelles sta mesa Martioy;

Apanthsh: Malista.

Erwthsh: Poio einai to empodio gia na teqei se efarmogh h symfwnia ths 8hs Ioylioy 2006;

Apanthsh: Ayto qa rwthsw ton k. Talat. Gi ayto eipa oti h prwth synanthsh qa exei diereynhtiko xarakthra. Sto katw - katw den yparxei allh symfwnia, h opoia na exei yioqethqei apo to Symboylio Asfaleias. Sth symfwnia ayth briskontai oi ypografes toy k. Talat kai toy k. Papadopoyloy. Egw timw thn ypografh toy k. Papadopoyloy, as timhsei kai o idios thn dikh toy ypografh. Elpizw oti mesa se ena klima kalhs qelhshs kai allhlokatanohshs na doyme poia einai ta problhmata, poy h t/k pleyra qewrei oti yparxoyn gia na proxwrhsei h symfwnia ayth.

Erwthsh: Anoigma Lhdras, Limnith prin th synanthsh h meta;

Apanthsh: Den qelw na prokatalabw o,tidhpote.

Erwthsh: H epistolh toy k. Talat pros ton G.G. toy OHE prokatalambanei kapoia pragmata;

Apanthsh: An isxyoyn osa legontai gia to periexomeno ths, tote asfalws prokatalambanei kapoia pragmata. Einai zhthmata, ta opoia qa syzhthsw me ton k. Talat.

Erwthsh: Eseis exete zhthsei na deite ton G.G. twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn;

Apanthsh: Sto paron stadio den qelw na fortwsw ta pragmata me nea aithmata. Asfalws kai qelw na synanthsw to GG, alla twra proteraiothta sthn atzenta exoyn oi synanthseis me ton k. Moler enocei ths synanthshs me ton k. Talat.

Erwthsh: Dedomenoy oti exete filikes sxeseis me ton k. Talat den qa mporoyse na ginei enas apeyqeias dialogos metajy sas xwris thn parembolh mesolabhtwn gia th lysh toy Kypriakoy;

Apanthsh: To Kypriako brisketai sto xwro twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Qewrw oti ta H.E. apoteloyn asfalistikh dikleida. Yparxei katoxh. H Genikh Syneleysh kai to Symboylio Asfaleias exoyn egkrinei swreia chfismatwn. Epishs, qesh mas einai oti prepei na endiaferontai energa gia th lysh toy Kypriakoy kai ta pente monima melh toy SA.Synepws exw thn apoch oti qa htan megalo sfalma na bgei to Kypriako apo th bash toy, h opoia einai ta H. E..

Erwthsh: Exete tonisei oti to kleidi ths lyshs brisketai sthn Agkyra. Qa epidiwjete apeyqeias synanthsh me ton k. Erntogan;

Apanthsh: Qa to doyme sthn poreia. Den to apokleiw kaqoloy, alla to apokleiei o k. Erntogan.

Erwthsh: Efoson arxisoyn diapragmateyseis gia th lysh toy Kypriakoy h Ammoxwstos qa prepei na paradoqei apo thn toyrkikh pleyra sta HE;

Apanthsh: Nomizw oti prokatalambanoyme polla pragmata. Den qa hqela prin ginei h prwth synanthsh me ton k. Talat kai prin synelqei to Eqniko Symboylio na pw o,tidhpote.Synepws, qelw na eimai sygkrathmenos ayth thn wra gia na pame oso ginetai kalytera.

[03] "Palh kai syspeirwsh"

To KKE kalei to lao "na klimakwsei thn antiimperialistikh toy palh kai syspeirwsh" kai na mhn "apoprosanatolistei oyte apo tis dynameis ths ypotaghs oyte apo tis eqnikistikes fwnes. Kai oi dyo sygkalyptoyn to rolo twn imperialistikwn dynamewn, thn emplokh kai ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy kefalaioy".

[04] "Na spasei o dikommatismos"

Ayrio stis 11:30 to prwi, o k.Tsipras qa ginei dektos apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Karolo Papoylia.

"O kentrikos stoxos einai na diamorfwqei mia megalh pleiochfia h opoia na mporesei na spasei ta teixh toy dikommatismoy kai na apanthsei sta megala zhthmata ths koinwnias me tria megala kommata, oxi me dyo. Kai qa deite oti kaqoti h ND einai se kaqodo h Rizospastikh Aristera einai se anodo", dhlwse o proedros ths KO toy SYRIZA Alekos Alabanos sxoliazontas ta apotelesmata dhmoskophsewn.

"Egw qelw na eyxaristhsw oloys osoi mas sthrizoyne, kyriws tis dynameis ths neolaias, kai epishs tis dynameis poy erxontai apo ton Sosialistiko xwro kai briskoyn jana thn prosdokia kai na pw oti jeroyme oti eimaste ypo dokimh kai qa prospaqhsoyme na antapokriqoyme", tonise.

[05] "Symboylio arxhgwn gia PGDM"

Anaptyssontas thn erwthsh toy, o proedros toy LAOS epikalesthke diakhryjh toy "Kommoynistikoy Kommatos Makedonias" toy 1944, opoy ginotan logos gia ``enopoihsh ths Makedonias poy diairesan oi imperialistes twn Balkaniwn'' - enw epistrefontas sto pio prosfato parelqon, ypenqymise dhlwseis toy prwhn ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Mixalh Papakwnstantinoy oti ``ayth h xwra qelei na parei olh th Makedonia'', alla kai dhlwseis toy Andrea Papandreoy oti ``den yparxei kamia dynatothta na dexqw ton oro "Makedonia" ypo oiadhpote morfh aytos periexetai sthn onomasia twn Skopiwn''.

``To pisteyete ayto ke Papandreoy; To exei pei o pateras sas kata lejh. Opws kai to dakry, toy megaloy Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh poy to exoyme apempolhsei'', anefere o G. Karatzaferhs.

Sto idio plaisio, o Proedros toy LAOS ypenqymise kai dhlwseis toy idioy toy prwqypoyrgoy (to 1995) opoy zhtoyse th sygklhsh toy symboylioy twn politikwn arxhgwn ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, gia na xrhsimopoihsei telika mia frash toy Giwrgoy Gennhmata prokeimenoy na rwthsei ``giati galbanizame to lao - gia na ypoxwrhsoyme;''.

``Eimaste ypakoyes qerapainides twn amerikanwn. Pisteyete oti to qema prepei na syzhthqei apo to Symboylio Politikwn Arxhgwn; Einai anagkaia h sygklhsh toy Symboylioy Politikwn Arxhgwn. Ayta ta opoia pisteyate kai legate eseis to 1995 giati den ta kanete shmera; Blepw ypoxwrhsh, ekptwsh, blepw symbibasmo'' tonise o k.Karatzaferhs.

[06] "Katarghsh foroy synallagwn"

O k. S. Kapralos, sthn erwthsh ean to X.A. mporei na apotelesei stoxo ejagoras, ektima oti ola ta endexomena einai piqana, apo th stigmh malista poy exei metablhqei shmantika h metoxikh synqesh ths EXAE kai to pososto twn jenwn qesmikwn sto metoxiko kefalaio jeperna pleon to 64%.

H synenteyjh qa metadoqei stis 18.00 sto thleoptiko deltio eidhsewn toy APE-MPE

ER: Ta xrhmatisthria dieqnws dianyoyn mia periodo entonhs metablhtothtas, meta apo ena qetiko 2007. Poia einai h gnwmh sas gia thn poreia twn xrhmatisthriwn kai toy X.A. gia to 2008;

AP: Toys teleytaioys mhnes h anodos ths timhs toy petrelaioy, h krish twn stegastikwn daneiwn xamhlhs ejasfalishs stis Hnwmenes Politeies, h diolisqhsh toy dolarioy enanti toy eyrw kai h prooptikh yfeshs sthn amerikanikh oikonomia, synqetoyn mia eikona, h opoia dhmioyrgei entonh anasfaleia stoys diaxeiristes kefalaiwn kai meiwsh ths diaqeshs gia ekqesh se kindyno. To gegonos ayto shmatodothse amesws ena kyma reystopoihsewn stis xrhmatisthriakes agores pagkosmiws.

To ellhniko xrhmatisthrio leitoyrgei se ena dieqnopoihmeno periballon kai exei edw kai kairo prosdeqei sto arma twn aneptygmenwn agorwn. To sygkekrimeno gegonos afenos epiferei mia seira pleonekthmatwn sto XA, ta opoia eidame ta prohgoymena xronia me thn ayjhsh ths reystothtas ths agoras mas, afeteroy omws shmatodotei thn amesh sysxetish ths poreias ths ellhnikhs agoras me tis antistoixes twn dieqnwn agorwn, ena fainomeno to opoio parathreitai entona apo thn arxh toy etoys mexri shmera. Qa prepei na ginei antilhpto oti, me thn pagkosmiopoihsh, oi agores leitoyrgoyn san sygkoinwnoynta doxeia kai to X.A. qa ephreazetai apo ta problhmata stis dieqneis oikonomies.

Nomizw oti to problhma einai megalytero apb oso arxika pisteyan oi ependytes. Den gnwrizw an th stigmh ayth oi trapezes exoyn apokalycei sto synolo toys tis zhmies apo ta stegastika daneia, enw, apo thn allh pleyra, to qema poy proekyce me thn Societe Generale kai thn ``mayrh trypa'' twn 5 disekatommyriwn eyrw, problhmatizei entonws gia tis ``parapleyres apwleies'' twn xrhmatopistwtikwn idrymatwn apo thn diorqwsh twn xrhmatisthriakwn agorwn.

Wstoso, ta mhnymata gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai tis epixeirhseis paramenoyn sygkrathmena aisiodoja kai gia to etos poy dianyoyme. Pisteyw oti ta etairika apotelesmata toy prwtoy trimhnoy qa einai endeiktika gia thn poreia twn agorwn. Molis ta pragmata katastalajoyn dieqnws kai meiwqei h abebaiothta, h reystothta qa epanelqei stis xrhmatisthriakes agores kai ta xrhmatisthria qa anakamcoyn.

ER: Exete dhlwsei oti to ellhniko xrhmatisthrio qa prepei na ginei perissotero antagwnistiko. Poia einai ta epomena sxedia ths dioikhshs toy X.A. pros ayth thn kateyqynsh; Ti qa ginei telika me thn katarghsh toy foroy synallagwn;

AP: Qewrw oti einai h ystath eykairia mas gia na proxwrhsoyme sthn katarghsh toy foroy epi twn synallagwn. O foros aytos einai ellhnikh prwtotypia kai apotelei shmantiko pososto epi toy synolikoy kostoys twn synallagwn. Opws ginetai antilhpto, loipon, h yparjh toy foroy aytoy dinei shmantiko kinhtro stoys antagwnistes mas gia na arxisoyn na pragmatopoioyn synallages epi ellhnikwn metoxwn sto ejwteriko, opoy den epibarynontai me ton foro ayto. Fobamai oti an symbei ayto kai xaqei reystothta apo thn agora mas, qa einai ejairetika dyskolo na epistrecei pisw, akoma kai an katarghqei o foros argotera. Gib ayto emeis epimenoyme oti qa prepei na katarghqei amesa.

Oson afora sthn antagwnistikothta ths agoras mas stoys alloys tomeis, qewrw oti proxwrame me ikanopoihtiko ryqmo. Ta teleytaia xronia exei ginei shmantiko ergo pros thn kateyqynsh ayth, toso ws pros to qesmiko plaisio poy diepei thn ellhnikh agora, oso kai ws pros to wrario, thn paroxh newn proiontwn kai yphresiwn, kaqws kai sth meiwsh toy kostoys twn synallagwn. Hdh briskomaste se fash diereynhshs gia thn eisagwgh newn sygxronwn xrhmatooikonomikwn ergaleiwn sthn ellhnikh agora, poy pisteyoyme oti qa proselkysoyn to endiaferon toso twn Ellhnwn oso kai twn jenwn ependytwn.

ER: To qema ths synergasias toy X.A. me jena xrhmatisthria kai kyriws me ta xrhmatisthria twn Balkaniwn poy brisketai; To X.A. mporei na apotelesei stoxo ejagoras;

AP: Ola ta endexomena einai piqana, apo th stigmh malista poy exei metablhqei shmantika h metoxikh synqesh ths EXAE. To pososto twn jenwn qesmikwn sto metoxiko kefalaio twn Ellhnikwn Xrhmatisthriwn jeperna pleon sto 64%, enw oi ependytes poy topoqethqhkan sthn etairia, eyelpistoyn afenos stis shmantikes apodoseis kai yperajies kai afeteroy sto endexomeno mias mellontikhs synergasias toy ellhnikoy xrhmatisthrioy me kapoio jeno xrhmatisthrio.

Emeis milame me ola ta megala eyrwpaika kai amerikanika xrhmatisthria kai diereynoyme meqodoys synergasias poy qa mporoysan na anaptyjoyn peraiterw thn ellhnikh agora. Wstoso, ayth th stigmh den exoyme kapoia protash sta xeria mas, oyte apo to NYSE-Euronext, oyte apo kapoio allo xrhmatisthrio.

Anaforika me th synergasia mas me ta xrhmatisthria ths notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, ta sxedia mas einai gnwsta edw kai kairo. Qa prepei omws na ginei antilhpto oti sthn perioxh ayth ta pragmata einai kapws pio arga kai den kinoyntai me thn idia taxythta poy kinoyntai sth Dytikh Eyrwph. Ta xrhmatisthria ths notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs einai ws epi to pleiston kratika kai xreiazontai xrono gia th lhch apofasewn.

Ayto poy fainetai na proxwra prwto, einai to xrhmatisthrio ths Slobenias. Hdh, metoxoi poy katexoyn to 65% toy Xrhmatisthrioy ths Lioympliana, exoyn prokhryjei dieqnh diagwnismo gia thn proselkysh strathgikoy ependyth. Emeis ekdhlwsame kai epishmws to endiaferon mas kai ypoballame prosfora gia symmetoxh sthn prwth fash toy diagwnismoy. Efoson epityxoyme kai perasoyme sthn epomenh fash, qa pragmatopoihqei to due diligence kai sth synexeia qa ypobaloyme thn oristikh prosfora mas.

ER: Sxetika me thn ekqesh toy oikoy FTSE kai to endexomeno ypobaqmishs ths ellhnikhs agoras apo aneptygmenh se anaptyssomenh, yparxei kapoio problhma;

AP: Kapoia apo ta qemata poy exei qesei o oikos FTSE einai swsta kai pragmati sthn ellhnikh agora yparxoyn idiaiterothtes se sxesh me tis anaptygmenes agores toy ejwterikoy. Me thn efarmogh omws ths odhgias MiFID, ta perissotera apo ayta ta diaforetika stoixeia teinoyn na ekleicoyn.

Ontws, loipon, sthn teleytaia toy anakoinwsh o oikos FTSE dhlwne pws h ellhnikh agora ejakoloyqei na mhn plhroi kapoia apo ta basika krithria kai ws ek toytoy paramenei se watch list ews thn epomenh ajiologhsh. Arketes apo aytes tis ekkremothtes exoyn hdh dromologhqei. Anaferw, gia paradeigma, tis ejwxrhmatisthriakes synallages (off exchange transactions), ton daneismo titlwn (stock borrowing) kai tis anoixtes pwlhseis (short selling). Qewrw, loipon, oti den qa yparxei problhma ypobaqmishs ths agoras mas.

[07] Metanasteytikh politikh

Ti mas diaforopoiei apo aytes tis xwres se qemata metanasteytikhs politikhs kai poy brisketai shmera h xwra se ayto to shmeio;

O proedros toy Institoytoy Metanasteytikhs Politikhs (IMEPO), Alejandros Zabos, se synenteyjh toy sto APE-MPE, apanta se erwthmata sxetika me ayto to flegon gia oloklhro ton sygxrono kosmo, qema:

- Ws pros to qema ths katatajhs ths Elladas se xamhles qeseis basei ayths ths Ekqeshs prepei na epishmanoyme orismena pragmata kai na laboyme ypoch tis idiaiterothtes kaqe xwras. Paradeigmatos xarin, enas deikths poy orizetai gia na deis an mia xwra exei proxwrhsei se qemata metanasteytikhs politikhs einai kai to pososto iqageneias poy exei xorhghqei se allodapoys. H Ellada ontws exei xamhlo pososto kai epomenws xamhlh baqmologhsh se ayth thn Ekqesh. Gia na parei iqageneia qa prepei o allodapos sthn Ellada na symplhrwsei -ektos twn allwn proypoqesewn- kai 10 xronia nomimhs paramonhs sth xwra. Omws, h katagrafh sthn Ellada twn metanastwn jekinhse to 1998, epomenws ta stoixeia basei twn opoiwn mporei na pistopoihqei h nomimh paramonh toys sth xwra, molis fetos symplhrwnontai. Ta prohgoymena xronia elaxistoi mporoysan na apodeijoyn oti eixan zhsei mia dekaetia sthn Ellada. Oi alles eyrwpaikes xwres poy exoyn mikrotero xroniko orio gia th nomimopoihsh toys (pente xronia), exoyn megalyterh paradosh sto qema, afoy logw ths apoikiokratias -se xwres afrikanikes, kyriws- , oi perissoteroi metanastes se aytes proerxontai apo tis palaies apoikies kai einai pio ejoikeiwmenoi me th glwssa kai tis synhqeies ths xwras ypodoxhs, epomenws einai kai pio eykolo na entaxqoyn se aytes.

Ena allo paradeigma, einai h politikh symmetoxh twn metanastwn, opoy kai se ayto to shmeio h xwra mas emfanizetai na ysterei. Xwres me makra paradosh sth metanasteysh exoyn domhsei metanasteytikes koinothtes wste aytes na exoyn qesmikh ekproswphsh sta organa, na exoyn eklejei atoma poy toys ekproswpoyn mesa apo qesmikes diadikasies kai symmetexoyn se qesmika organa, mesw twn opoiwn syndialegontai me thn politeia. Sthn Ellada den exei epiteyxqei akomh h qesmikh ekproswphsh twn metanastwn. Twra ginetai mia prospaqeia se ayton ton tomea. Mia allh diastash einai oti h pleionothta twn metanastwn, sthn Ellada exoyn eiselqei paranoma sth xwra. Epomenws xreiazetai xronos gia na akoloyqhsoyn th diadikasia entajhs. Opoios exei mpei me nomimh diadikasia einai eykolotero na entaxqei. Stis boreies xwres, to 90% twn metanastwn mpainoyn mesw nomimwn diadikasiwn.

- Ma kai sthn Ispania gnwrizoyme oti mpainoyn sth xwra kaqhmerina paranomoi metanastes, xrhsimopoiwntas ploiaria ths symforas apo tis boreio-afrikanikes xwres me tragikes synepeies, afoy syxnotata jebrazontai stis aktes ptwmata laqrometanastwn poy den kataferan na ftasoyn stis ispanikes aktes.

- Nai, h Ispania exei to idio problhma kai edw yparxei ena qema me toys deiktes. H Ispania monimopoihse perysi 600.000 metanastes. To qema einai pote ginetai h metrhsh metanastwn. Otan toys metras molis toys exeis nomimopoihsei, tote oi deiktes fainontai qetikoi, an ginei h metrhsh prin th nomimopoihsh tote qa emfanizotan megalos ariqmos mh-nomimwn metanastwn. Omws, opws eipe kai o Gallos ypoyrgos Metanasteyshs Mpris Ortfe, poy episkefthke th xwra mas kai ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, mia xwra den qa prepei na nomimopoiei metanastes, an den symfwnhsoyn kai oi alles xwres ths EE, me to skeptiko oti oi metanastes apo th stigmh poy ftanoyn se mia eyrwpaikh xwra mporoyn na perasoyn kai se alles, epomenws to qema ayto tis afora oles.

- An hsastan metanasths shmera sthn Ellada, qa hsastan eyxaristhmenos apo th zwh sas edw;

- Ola einai sxetika. An eixa erqei me nomimo tropo sthn Ellada kai eixa afhsei pisw sthn patrida moy dyskoles synqhkes epibiwshs, tote sigoyra qa eniwqa kalytera kai parallhla qa diekdikoysa panta to kalytero. Ekei poy yparxei problhma sthn Ellada einai h kaqysterhsh poy shmeiwnetai sthn ekdosh kai ananewsh twn adeiwn diamonhs metanastwn kai idiaitera se orismenes perioxes opoy yparxei megalh sygkentrwsh.

H aitia einai prwton, oti yparxoyn metanastes twn opoiwn ta eggrafa den apodeiknyoyn oti briskontai sth xwra nomima. Deyteron, logw fortoy ergasias twn ypallhlwn kai dedomenoy oti oi metanastes den einai ``eykoloi pelates'' gia tis dhmosies yphresies (den miloyn eparkws ta ellhnika), h synennohsh den einai eykolh afoy den yparxoyn kai ypallhloi poy na miloyn sth glwssa to metanasth. Etsi, dhmioyrgeitai entash. Oi ypallhloi apofeygoyn tis yphresies poy exoyn na kanoyn me metanastes kai sth qesh toys erxontai epoxikoi, me apotelesma na mhn yparxei h aparaithth gnwsh toy qematos alla kai synexeia stis sygkekrimenes yphresies. Fysika, yparxei kai to problhma ths genikoterhs grafeiokratias. Twra ginontai prospaqeies na aplopoihqoyn oi diadikasies me thn Epitroph poy exei systaqei sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn gia ayto to skopo.

To IMEPO symmetexei me alles xwres sto programma INDI me skopo th dhmioyrgia one stop stand, dhladh enos xwroy opoy qa ejyphretoyntai oles oi ypoqeseis twn metanastwn. Elpizoyme pws mexri ton Oktwbrio qa exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia.

- Ti omws symbainei me toys paranomoys metanastes sthn Ellada;

- Kamia xwra den qelei perissoteroys metanastes apo osoys exei anagkh. Etsi, gia na lyqei to problhma, dyo lyseis yparxoyn: Prwton h apotroph toys. Omws, h Ellada, poy exei ta megalytera se mhkos qalassia synora, den mporei na prostateysei tis mh nomimes eisodoys sth xwra. H allh lysh einai h epistrofh toys stis omores xwres apo opoy perasan gia na ftasoyn mexri emas. Ayto apaitei diakratikes symfwnies, opws me xwres poy qeloyn na exoyn kalh sxesh me thn EE. Trith lysh: h epanaprowqhsh toys sth xwra katagwghs toys. Omws, se ayth thn periptwsh yparxei to problhma twn tajidiwtikwn h allwn eggrafwn toys. Polloi apo toys paranomoys metanastes exoyn katastrecei ayta ta eggrafa kai kata synepeia einai adynaton na steileis pisw kapoion xwris xartia.

An, twra, toys nomimopoihseis oloys, einai sa na dineis to mhnyma na erqoyn oloi kai se ayth thn periptwsh qa yparjei sth xwra megalo problhma ergasias oxi mono metajy twn metanastwnµ, alla kai twn Ellhnwn ergazomenwn me xamhla hmeromisqia. Symfwna me prosfath meleth, an erqoyn 200.000 metanastes sth xwra h anergia qa ektojeytei sta ych kai qa meiwqoyn apo 25 ews 55% ta merokamata. Etsi, qa yparjei mia anadianomh toy eisodhmatos yper twn ploysioterwn kai kata twn ftwxoterwn. Qa dhmioyrghqei koinwniko problhma sth xwra apo toys anqrwpoys poy den qa briskoyn ergasia.

- Yparxei omws to qema toy sebasmoy twn Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn, ta opoia polles fores katapatwntai, opws stis prosfates periptwseis sthn Patra kai thn Hgoymenitsa.

- Toys episkefqhka egw o idios stoys kataylismoys toys, me politikoys foreis kai foreis metanastwn sthn Patra, prin apo eji mhnes, otan ta pragmata htan pio hrema. Oi metanastes den hqelan na metakinhqoyn apo toys kataylismoys poy eixan sthsei sto limani gia na pane alloy kai na zhsoyn se kalyteres synqhkes, opoy toso h Perifereia, oso kai h Nomarxia toys paraxwroyse ektos perioxhs toy limanioy. Oi metanastes aytoi hqelan na einai sto limani gia na mporoyn opote broyn thn eykairia na fygoyn laqraia me ta ploia gia thn Italia kai apo ekei se alles eyrwpaikes xwres, opoy oi synqhkes einai kalyteres. Omws, h pleiochfia apo aytoys gyrizei pisw afoy oi Italoi gnwrizoyn to problhma kai stoys ekteneis elegxoys poy kanoyn, toys anakalyptoyn. Etsi, exoyme 2.500 metanastes mesa sto limani kai oi polites ths Patras antidroyn.

- Pws nomizete pws mporei na antimetwpistei to problhma ths metanasteyshs genikotera se mia epoxh opoy ta metanasteytika reymata apo tis xwres toy mh anaptygmenoy kosmoy fainetai na mh stamatoyn;

- Einai ena qema poy prepei na to doyme me thn EE. Giati afenos den mporoyme na toys krathsoyme, afeteroy den mporoyme na toys steiloyme pisw. An mia xwra toys dextei tote qa epelqei rhjh me thn EE.

Sthn Patra eixe protaqei h lysh na fraxtei to limani wste na dyskoleyetai h apodrash toys. Omws, yphrjan antidraseis paragontwn ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, kaqws den hqelan na parempodizetai h bolta twn Patrinwn sthn paralia. Telika h parembash ths Astynomias einai h monh lysh.

- Telika posoi einai oi metanastes sthn Ellada, giati polla antikroyomena akoygontai gia ton teliko ariqmo toys;

- Oi adeies en isxyi shmera einai peripoy 500.000 kai alles 150.000 briskontai se ekkremothta, synolo 650.000 nomimoi metanastes.

Gia toys mh nomimoys metanastes yparxei mia ektimhsh poy basizetai se stoixeia ta opoia sygkentrwnontai apo ta sxoleia kai thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. Se ena deigma peripoy 200 Dhmwn me synoliko plhqysmo ena ekatommyrio katoikoys, prokyptei enas ariqmos mh nomimwn metanastwn ycoys 180.000 me 250.000, ariqmos poy epibebaiwnetai kai apo ta stoixeia poy sygkentrwqhkan apo ta sxoleia. Dhladh, basei twn gennhsewn sth xwra kai me dedomeno oti se kaqe enan nomimo metanasth antistoixoyn 7 me 8 mh nomimoi, prokyptei pws o telikos ariqmos ftanei peripoy toys 250.000. Dhladh oloi mazi den jepernoyn to ena ekatommyrio.

- Pws pisteyete pws prepei na antimetwpistei to qema twn paidiwn metanastwn poy exoyn gennhqei sthn Ellada alla molis symplhrwsoyn to 18o etos ths hlikias toys (prosfata doqhke paratash mexri to 21o) prepei h na fygoyn apo th xwra h na broyn amesws ergodoth;

- H protash toy IMEPO pros thn politeia einai pws ta paidia twn metanastwn poy exoyn gennhqei kai megalwsei sthn Ellada, exoyn paei sxoleio kai exoyn symplhrwsei to 18o etos ths hlikias toys, prepei me aithsh toys na zhtoyn kai na lambanoyn thn ellhnikh iqageneia. H epilogh prepei na einai dikh toys. Na niwqoyn dhladh Ellhnes, na mporoyn na pane sto panepisthmio, sto strato, na exoyn to dikaiwma toy eklegein kai toy eklegesqai. Omws, den qa mporei h xorhghsh ths iqageneias pros aytoys na dikaiologei kai th xorhghsh iqageneias kai stoys goneis toys.

- Yparxoyn problhmata sthn kathgoria twn epi makron diamenontes metanastwn kai poia einai ayta;

- O nomos problepei gia ayth thn kathgoria metanastwn th nomimh paramonh epi pentaetia sth xwra, dhladh na exei mia ergasia poy apodeiknyetai kai pistopoihtiko gnwshs ths ellhnikhs glwssas. To pistopoihtiko dinetai meta apo 150 wres dwrean didaskalias ths glwssas kai stoixeiwn istorias kai politismoy ths xwras. Etsi pairnoyn adeia makras diamonhs xwris na xreiazetai na thn ananewnoyn kaqe xrono kai ejomoiwnontai ta dikaiwmata toys me ayta twn Ellhnwn ektos apo ayto ths symmetoxhs se politika drwmena. Isws argotera -opws exei pei kai o ypoyrgos- na mporoyn na symmetexoyn se topikes ekloges.

- Kai sto qema ths oikogeneiakhs synenwshs fainetai na ysteroyme se sxesh me alles eyrwpaikes xwres...

- Apo stoixeia toy ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs mporoyme na doyme posoi metanastes lambanoyn oikogeneiako epidoma. Se synolo 360.000 Ellhnwn poy dikaioyntai epidomatos oi nomimoi allodapoi anerxontai stis 40.000, dhladh to 11,11%. Alla kai apo to synolo twn drasewn toy OAED, 12.500 metanastes lambanoyn epidoma anergias , dhladh to 9,45%. Ta pososta twn metanastwn aytwn twn kathgoriwn einai ychla se sxesh me to pososto toy plhqysmoy toys sth xwra giati oi metanastes poy katagrafontai se aytes tis listes einai oloi ergasiaka energoi. Den ypologizontai sta stoixeia p.x. hlikiwmenoi h mwra.

Epishs oson afora toys asfalismenoys sta Tameia, gia ton mhna Noembrio toy 2006, to synolo twn allodapwn asfalismenwn, sto IKA kai to ETAM mono, se koines epixeirhseis (ektos oikodomwn) anerxetai stoys 259.496 ek twn opoiwn 189.632 antres kai 69.864 gynaikes.

Pera apo ta apta stoixeia, ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas kai to genikotero qema ths metanasteyshs poy h xwra mas moirazetai me polles alles, to qema poy apasxolei ayth th stigmh to IMEPO, ton proedro kai toys synergates toy einai h analhch ths diorganwshs toy 3oy Dieqnoys Foroym Metanasteyshs kai Anaptyjhs poy qa pragmatopoihqei sthn Aqhna to 2009. Emfash qa doqei apo ellhnikhs pleyras sto qema ths ajiopoihshs ths diasporas se sxesh me th metanasteysh kai o neos rolos poy kaleitai na diadramatisei.

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