[01] Synexizontai oi diapragmateyseis

H synanthsh dihrkese mia wra kai deka lepta kai egine sta grafeia ths Monimhs Antiproswpeias ths xwras mas ston OHE.

O k. Nimits, o opoios arga apoce qa synanthqei me ton proedro ths PGDM Mpranko Tserbenkofski, dieykrinise oti h entolh poy exei einai gia lysh poy na afora to qema ths onomasias ths PGDM, epishmainontas oti ``ta Hnwmena Eqnh den asxoloyntai me eqnikes taytothtes''.

O k. Nimits epanelabe epishs oti yparxei ``eilikrinhs politikh boylhsh'' apo meroys ths Aqhnas gia lysh, enw apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh anagnwrise oti yparxoyn ``diaforetikes apoceis'' sthn PGDM.

H k. Mpakogiannh tonise oti ``h entolh toy k. Nimits einai na diapragmateytoyme to onoma ths xwras ayths''.

Sygkekrimena, h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn eipe: ``Eixa mia makra syzhthsh me ton k. Nimits. Mia syzhthsh idiaitera endiaferoysa kai epoikodomhtikh. Mas doqhke h eykairia na kanoyme thn anaskophsh toy synoloy ths diapragmateytikhs poreias. Syzhthsame ta diafora qemata ta opoia mas apasxoloyn. H diapragmateysh qa synexistei epi ths oysias me toys diapragmateytes mesa sthn epomenh, meqepomenh bdomada, den exei akomh kaqoristei. H ellhnikh pleyra eixe allh mia fora thn eykairia na dhlwsei kaqara ston diapragmateyth thn epoikodomhtikh ths qesh, th boylhsh ths gia aneyresh mias koina apodekths lyshs gia to qema toy onomatos twn Skopiwn. Moy doqhke h eykairia na janaqesw ston k. Nimits tis ellhnikes qeseis me safhneia kai plhrothta''.

Se erwthsh ``ti ennoei o k.Nimits me th makedonikh eqnothta poy kanei anafora stis idees poy eixe dwsei stis dyo pleyres'', h k. Mpakogiannh tonise: ``Isa, isa, ayto to opoio eipe kai einai apolytws safes einai oti h entolh toy k. Nimits einai na diapragmateytoyme to onoma ths xwras ayths. Milame gia to onoma kai ayth einai h diapragmateysh h opoia ginetai''.

Telos, h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ypogrammise oti h ellhnikh pleyra epidiwkei lysh ``xwris nikhtes kai htthmenoys''.

Dhlwseis M. Nimits

``Den asxoloymaste me eqnikes taytothtes h istorikes taytothtes. Asxoloymaste me to onoma toy kratoys kai se mia diapragmateysh den asxoloymaste me tis eqnikes h alles proswpikes taytothtes lawn'', dhlwse o proswpikos apestalmenos toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE, Maqioy Nimits, meta th synanthsh toy me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, Ntora Mpakogiannh, shmeiwnontas oti akoyse ``merika apo ta sxolia'' panw stis idees poy paroysiase stoys diapragmateytes.

O k. Nimits anefere oti ``yparxei kalyterh katanohsh ths kaqe qeshs'', shmeiwnontas: ``Yparxoyn akomh kapoia qemata poy einai shmantika kai den exei yparjei lysh toys. Qa ergastoyme panw sb ayta. Ena pragma gia to opoio entypwsiasthka htan h apofasistikothta ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na agwnistei na lysei to qema sb ena dynato xroniko plaisio. Fysika, tipota den mporei na lyqei an kai oi dyo pleyres den broyn mia symfwnia poy na kalyptei kai tis dyo, alla h aisqhsh poy sigoyra lambanw shmera apo thn ellhnikh pleyra einai oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh einai etoimh na kanei kati poy qa dwsei lysh kai poy qa einai ikanopoihtikh''.

Se erwthsh an yparxei ``prosforo edafos gia proodo'', o k. Nimits yposthrije:

``Nomizw oti yparxei sobarh skech kai stis dyo kybernhseis gia tis idees poy paroysiasa panw stis dikes toys idees kai nomizw oti briskomaste sb ena poly shmantiko stadio twn synomiliwn. Den eimai apogohteymenos''.

Sthn erwthsh an synergazetai kai me alles kybernhseis panw sb ayto to zhthma, eipe: ``Milaw me alles kybernhseis kratwn-melwn twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Exw milhsei me thn kybernhsh twn HPA. Den moirazomai tis idees moy mazi toys. Den dinw pote se kanena tis idees poy paroysiazw sta dyo merh. Enas ariqmos kratwn, kai h kybernhsh twn HPA, endiaferontai poly gib ayto to qema kai nomizw oti einai poly shmantiko kai gia tis kybernhseis sthn Eyrwph, stis HPA kai alloy''.

Sthn erwthsh an eipe sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh na kanei kati gia lysh kai ti, o mesolabhths toy OHE, epeshmane oti ``synomiloyn poly sobara kai yparxei politikh qelhsh sthn hgesia ths Elladas na prospaqhsoyn na lysoyn to qema''.

Sth synexeia, rwthqhke: ``Sthn Skopianh pleyra, den yparxei staqerh grammh. Sas anhsyxei ayto;''. Apanthse ws ejhs: ``Kamia xwra den exei 100% ton idio tropo poy blepei ta pragmata, kai mesa sthn idia thn xwra kai mesa sthn idia thn hgesia. Otan milaw me thn ellhnikh hgesia, me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, pairnw kaqares qeseis. Kai sta Skopia, h kybernhsh moy mila poly kaqara kai me mia fwnh. Gnwrizw oti yparxoyn politikes diafores, alla nomizw oti panw sb ayto to qema lambanw mia kaqarh qesh apo ta Skopia''.

Sthn erwthsh: ``Symfwna me to synolo twn idewn poy paroysiasate prosfata, pws jexwrizete toys Ellhnes Makedones apo toys oytw onomazomenoys Makedones twn Skopiwn. Yparxei kapoia grammh sto synolo twn idewn sas oti yparxei mia apolyth diakrish sb ayta ta dyo;'', edwse thn akoloyqh apanthsh:

``Antiproswpeyw ta Hnwmena Eqnh sb ayto to qema kai o OHE einai enas Organismos eqnwn. Kai ayto me to opoio asxoloymaste twra einai qema onomatos poy sxetizetai ena eqniko kratos kai den asxoloymaste me thn eqnikothta ayth kaqb aythn. O OHE den anagnwrizei eqnikothta. Den asxoloymaste me eqnikes taytothtes h istorikes taytothtes. Asxoloymaste me to onoma toy kratoys kai den asxoloymaste se mia diapragmateysh gia tis eqnikes h alles proswpikes taytothtes lawn''.

Oso afora to epomeno bhma, eipe: ``Eimai se epikoinwnia me toys synomilhtes''.

[02] Problhmata sthn agora kaysimwn

En tw metajy, to meshmeri ths Pempths, qa pragmatopoihqei syskech twn telwneiakwn me ton yfypoyrgo Oikonomikwn, k. Ant. Mpeza, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei lysh sto problhma poy exei prokycei.

Symfwna me tis ektimhseis poy ejefrase o genikos dieyqynths toy Syndesmoy Etaireiwn Emporias Petrelaioeidwn, k.An. Petranidhs, mexri shmera to brady qa einai pio entona ta problhmata sthn agora. Opws shmeiwnoyn oi prathrioyxoi sta loipa proionta den yparxei problhma eparkeias alla an synexistei h apergia, endexomenws na yparjei problhma kai gia ayta ta proionta.

Se dhlwseis toy se dhmosiografoys, o k. Petranidhs, anaferei oti oi etaireies emporias den exoyn th dynatothta na ikanopoihsoyn th zhthsh epeidh einai se ejelijh h apergia twn telwneiakwn kai ta diylisthria kai oi etaireies petrelaioeidwn, akoma kai an exoyn ektelwnismena proionta, den mporoyn na ta ejagoyn, giati xreiazetai h paroysia telwneiakwn. Den mporei na anoijei h egkatastash h h apoqhkh petrelaioeidwn gia na paradwsei kaysima, giati einai telwneiaka elegxomenoi xwroi, kyriolektika me sfragida. Mono o stratos, h astynomia, h aeroporia kai ta nosokomeia, ejyphretoyntai me thn adeia twn telwneiakwn.

Apo thn pleyra toys, oi epixeirhmaties twn alysidwn soyper market kai biomhxaniwn trofimwn anaferoyn pws elleiceis mexri stigmhs den exoyn paroysiastei alla an synexistoyn oi apergiakes kinhtopoihseis twn telwneiakwn tote apo thn erxomenh Deytera oi dianomes kai metafores proiontwn qa ginontai me dyskolia kaqws ta forthga oxhmata toys den qa exoyn kaysima.

Dhlwseis G. Alogoskoyfh

"Den einai dynaton enas klados kaloplhrwmenwn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn na epixeirei na krathsei omhro thn ellhnikh oikonomia kai thn ellhnikh koinwnia, epeidh qeloyn oi idioi na diaxeirizontai ton Eidiko Logariasmo toy epidomatos, poy eisprattoyn".

Ayto dhlwse o ypoyrgos Oikonomias & Oikonomikwn, Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs, sto plaisio enhmerwshs ths armodias koinoboyleytikhs epitrophs gia ta apotelesmata twn prosfatwn atypwn Symboyliwn EUROGROUP kai ECOFIN, sth Nikaia ths Gallias.

Opws eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs, me to nomosxedio poy chfisqhke apo th Boylh, enswmatwnontai oi eidikoi logariasmoi ston kratiko Proypologismo gia logoys diasfalishs ths diafaneias sta dhmosia oikonomika. "Me thn enswmatwsh ayth, den yparxei kanenas kindynos na mhn kataballontai ta qesmoqethmena epidomata stoys dhmosioys ypallhloys", ypogrammise o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

Dhlwseis Q. Roysopoyloy

O ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Q. Roysopoylos afoy anefere oti oi epiptwseis apo thn apergia twn telwneiakwn yparxoyn kai einai shmantikes, kalese toys symmetexontes na analogistoyn th zhmia poy prokaloyn me ayth thn energeia toys. Shmeiwse oti h kybernhsh sebetai tis apergies, tis kinhtopoihseis kai th diaforetikh apoch kai dhlwse pws ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia syzhtoyn prokeimenoy na breqei lysh wste oi epiptwseis na mhn einai eis baros ths oikonomias.

Se o, ti afora to endexomeno na ginoyn dekta ta aithmata toys, o kybernhtikos ekproswpos eipe pws den exei kati perissotero kai afoy syzhthsei me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, kai an exei kati na prosqesei, qa to pei ayrio.

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