[01] K.Karamanlhs: "Ylopoioyme thn strathgikh poy exei qetika apotelesmata"

Qemata sxetika me thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos syzhthse xqes h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, sth peripoy triwrh synedriash ths ypo thn proedria toy prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh.

O ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs Basilhs Magginas se dhlwseis toy meta th synedriash ypogrammise oti h metarryqmish sto asfalistiko systhma aposkopei sthn "me tropo hpio arsh twn adikiwn, twn streblwsewn kai twn yperbolwn oi opoies shmera diatrexoyn to systhma. Skopos einai na exoyme ena biwsimo, dikaio kai sygxrono asfalistiko systhma, to opoio na yphretei ta pragmatika symferonta twn syntajioyxwn kai asfalws twn newn ergazomenwn".

O ypoyrgos Oikonomias Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs, o opoios, prin apo th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, eixe kat' idian synanthsh me ton prwqypoyrgo kai ton enhmerwse gia tis syzhthseis sto Eurogroup kai sto ECOFIN, anefere oti syzhthqhkan probleceis ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia thn eyrwpaikh kai gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia.

O Giwrgos Alogoskoyfhs ypogrammise oti gia thn Ellada problepetai oti qa synexistoyn oi ychloi ryqmoi anaptyjhs kai pws h dhmosionomikh prosarmogh qa paei symfwna me tis probleceis toy prosxedioy toy proypologismoy.

Genika oi ektimhseis poy ginontai gia thn eyrwpaikh oikonomia einai oti qa ephreastei elaxista apo thn epibradynsh poy yparxei stis Hnwmenes Politeies kai apo thn pagkosmia oikonomia kai genika oti h anaptyjh sthn eyrwpaikh oikonomia qa einai isxyrh, opws kai sthn Ellada, prosqese.

O ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs Xrhstos Fwlias apantwntas se erwthsh sxetika me to mnhmonio gia synergasia metajy ths DEH kai germanikhs etairias, parepemce se sxetikh anakoinwsh ths DEH kai shmeiwse oti den prokeitai na idiwtikopoihqei h etairia.

Sto metajy, sthn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn, o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Qodwros Roysopoylos anakoinwse oti o prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs Swthrh Xatzhgakh ston opoio edwse entoles gia thn aysthropoihsh toy qesmikoy plaisioy toy systhmatos poinwn gia eidexqh egklhmata, kaqws kai thn epanejetash toy kaqestwtos adeiwn twn fylakismenwn, gia osoys ekmetalleyontai tis adeies aytes gia th synexish toy egklhmatikoy toys ergoy.

O k. Roysopoylos epeshmane akoma oti epanejetazetai kai to plaisio poy afora sth diafylajh proswpikwn dedomenwn kai atomikwn dikaiwmatwn, eidika gia ta egklhmata paidikhs pornografias,biasmwn, kaqws kai gia egklhmata kata eypaqwn atomwn, anhlikwn klp.

O ekproswpos dieykrinise oti oi allages qa ginoyn pros thn kateyqynsh aysthropoihshs twn poinwn kai twn metrwn kata twn ypotropwn drastwn kai tonise oti poly syntoma qa ginoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis apo ton armodio ypoyrgo.

Xairetismos toy prwqypoyrgoy sthn aponomh twn brabeiwn epixeirhmatikothtas "Koyros 2007"

Aponemhqhkan apo ton prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Karamanlh, ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh kai ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Xrhsto Fwlia, ta Brabeia Epixeirhmatikothtas "Koyros 2007" se eidikh ekdhlwsh poy diorganwse gia 13h synexh xronia h Lesxh Epixeirhmatikothtas se kentriko jenodoxeio ths Aqhnas. Ta fetina Brabeia Epixeirhmatikothtas "Koyros 2007" aponemhqhkan stoys parakatw:

- Brabeio Anaptyjhs & Kainotomias: Iwannhs Stroytshs - Proedros kai Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths etairias Hlektronikh Aqhnwn AEE.

- Brabeio Epidoshs sto Dieqnh Oikonomiko Stibo: Xarilaos Kabbadias - Proedros kai Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths etairias Mega Plast AE.

- Brabeio Koinwnikhs Prosforas: Lazaros Efraimogloy - Proedros toy Idrymatos Meizonos Ellhnismoy.

Se syntomo xairetismo toy, o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs epishmane oti: "Mesa se ena dyskolo dieqnes epixeirhmatiko periballon, opws ayto diamorfwnetai apo tis idiaitera ychles times toy petrelaioy, h anadeijh ellhnikwn epixeirhsewn poy aristeyoyn stis epidoseis toys toso sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh oso kai sthn koinwnikh prosfora einai enas kalos logos na eimaste aisiodojoi. Einai mia xeiropiasth apodeijh oti h epixeirhmatikothta sthn Ellada exei kai paron kai mellon. To edafos einai gonimo. Ayto poy xreiazetai einai sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies, syntonismos drasewn, politikes me to blemma strammeno sto ayrio".

H kybernhsh, opws anefere o k. Karamanlhs, synexizei na ylopoiei th strathgikh ekeinh poy apodedeigmena exei qetika, metrhsima apotelesmata gia thn oikonomia, thn anaptyjh, thn koinwnikh synoxh.

-To neo migma oikonomikhs politikhs poy odhgei staqera sthn ejygiansh twn dhmosionomikwn megeqwn me taytoxronh epiteyjh staqera ychlwn ariqmwn anaptyjhs, dhmioyrgia newn qesewn ergasias kai meiwsh ths anergias.

- Th nea anaptyjiakh politikh poy dinei kinhtra ejwstrefoys drashs sthn ygih epixeirhmatikothta.

- Th nea dynamikh oikonomikh diplwmatia poy metamorfwnei thn Ellada se dieqnes energeiako kai diametakomistiko kentro.

- Synexizetai h baqia metarryqmish sthn paideia me stoxo thn apeleyqerwsh olwn twn dhmioyrgikwn dynamewn twn newn. Ton efodiasmo toys me ta anagkaia ergaleia poy qa toys epitrecoyn na antagwnistoyn epi isois orois toys eyrwpaioys synadelfoys toys.

"Staqera isxyrh kai biwsimh anaptyjh - ajiopoihsh kaqe sygkritikoy pleonekthmatos poy diaqetoyme - dhmioyrgia newn kai kala ameibomenwn qesewn ergasias: ayto einai to triptyxo panw sto opoio kinoymaste. Aytos einai o stoxos, h proklhsh poy kaloymaste na kerdisoyme diamorfwnontas mia eyreia koinwnikh symmaxia enantia sto ligo kai sto metrio". epishmane o prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs.

Synenteyjh Leyterh Zagorith sto APE-MPE

``Akomh ki emeis ekplaghkame apo ta osa dhmosia ektojeyqhkan apo ta stelexh toy PASOK sth diadikasia ekloghs arxhgoy'' dhlwnei o Grammateas ths KE ths ND Leyterhs Zagoriths se synenteyjh toy sto APE - MPE kai ektima oti `` den einai eykolo na jeperastoyn oi entaseis poy dhmioyrghqhkan''.

Anaferei akomh oti den diapistwnei kapoia idiaiterh allagh sto PASOK, gia de ton tropo anadeijhs toy arxhgoy shmeiwnei oti h ND exei makra empeiria dhmokratikwn diadikasiwn, alla den fobatai na yioqethsei kati qetiko.

Tonizei epishs oti den isxyoyn ta senaria peri prowrwn eklogwn kai prosqetei oti h kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei me pio grhgora bhmata sthn ylopoihsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy kai oti o eklogikos nomos qa chfisqei syntoma mesa sto prwto ejamhno toy 2008.

ER:Pws blepete to apotelesma ths chfoforias sto PASOK;

AP: Sygxairoyme ton k. G. Papandreoy gia thn epaneklogh toy. Parakoloyqhsame ayto to diasthma me prosoxh tis ejelijeis sto PASOK. Bebaiws, den eixame oyte agwnia, oyte agxos gia to apotelesma. Ena komma, allwste, den einai monaxa o hgeths. Einai kai h ideologia, oi arxes, oi ajies, ta stelexh, koinoboyleytika kai ejwkoinoboyleytika, anagnwrisima kai mh, h organwsh, h epikoinwnia, einai polla pragmata. Den diapistwnw kapoia idiaiterh allagh sto PASOK.

ER:Nomizete oti o k. Giwrgos Papandreoy kai to PASOK bgainoyn enisxymenoi apo ayth th diadikasia;

AP:Ayto einai kati sxetiko. Dioti to 2004, o k. Papandreoy htan adiamfisbhthtos hgeths toy PASOK. Meta tis allepallhles httes epace na einai. Amfisbhthqhke. Eprepe na ginei kati. Shmera, asfalws einai se kalyterh qesh se sxesh me to brady ths 16hs Septembrioy. Pantws, den jerw an mporoyn na jeperasqoyn eykola oi apisteytes proswpikes entaseis kai oi allhlokathgories metajy twn koryfaiwn toy PASOK toys dyo mhnes poy dihrkese h diamaxh. Akoysthkan baries koybentes gia synwmosies, gia yponomeytes, gia "prigkipes", gia kaqestwtismo, gia ploytismo, gia aneparkeies, gia ejwqesmika kentra. Akoma kai emeis ekplaghkame me osa dhmosia ektojeythkan.

ER: Ektimate oti to PASOK qa einai pio apeilhtiko gia thn kybernhsh;

AP: Anamenoyme sklhrh kritikh. Elpizoyme na einai kaloproaireth kai na mhn kanei to PASOK ejagwgh twn entasewn, ths ojythtas kai toy laikismoy, kati poy poly fobamai oti qa symbei. Pantws, to mellon ejartatai apo mas toys idioys kai poly ligotero apo toys antipaloys mas. An doylecoyme swsta kai exoyme qetika apotelesmata den exoyme na fobhqoyme tipota kai kanenan. An exoyme astoxies qa ypostoyme tis synepeies. Antipalos mas einai ta problhmata kai o xronos.

ER:H apeyqeias eklogh proedroy sto PASOK dhmioyrgei skeceis gia tis dikes sas eswkommatikes diadikasies;

AP: O K. Karamanlhs einai nikhths kai den amfisbhteitai apo kanenan. Ejelegh apo to Synedrio mas, apo xiliades synedroys ap' olh thn Ellada kai toys apodhmoys, poy antiproswpeyan ekatontades xiliades melh ths ND poy toys eixan epilejei me adiablhtes chfofories. Emeis den anakalyptoyme twra tis dhmokratikes diadikasies. Tis yphretoyme xronia. Parakoloyqoyme me endiaferon tis leitoyrgies olwn twn kommatwn. Den fobomaste na yioqethsoyme kaqe ti qetiko alla edw kai xronia exoyme apodeijei oti h symmetoxh kai h dhmokratia gia th ND einai ennoies me oysiastiko periexomeno.

ER:Qa epitaxynei h kybernhsh thn paragwgh ergoy, qa proxwrhsei me pio grhgora bhmata sthn ylopoihsh toy programmatos ths;

AP: Asfalws. Oi polites mas timhsan, mas empisteyqhkan jana kai emeis ergazomaste akomh pio entatika gia na prowqhsoyme tis allages kai tis metarryqmiseis poy exei anagkh o topos. To kanoyme. Me apofasistikothta. Den efhsyxazoyme.

ER:Pws ierarxoyntai oi proteraiothtes ths;

AP: H oikonomikh politikh kai o Proypologismos einai ta koryfaia qemata ayths ths periodoy. Taytoxrona, anoije h syzhthsh gia to Asfalistiko. Einai zhthma poy qa mas apasxolhsei toys epomenoys mhnes. Apaitoyntai apofaseis shmantikes gia tis mellontikes genies. H Syntagmatikh Anaqewrhsh, o neos eklogikos nomos kai h chfos twn Apodhmwn einai apo ta koryfaia zhthmata to epomeno diasthma. Zhthmata gia ta opoia apaiteitai synennohsh kai synainesh.

ER:Qa proxwrhsete syntoma se allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy;

AP: Nai. Proqesh mas einai o eklogikos nomos na chfistei mesa sto prwto ejamhno toy 2008. O yfistamenos nomos dokimasthke kai prepei n' allajei. To PASOK epediwke na yparjei akybernhsia. Den to petyxe. Omws, sto mellon mporei na odhghqoyme se akybernhsia. Gi' ayto kai stoxos mas einai, opws prosdioristhke apo ton prwqypoyrgo, o neos eklogikos nomos, diathrwntas thn analogikothta, na enisxyei thn kybernhtikh staqerothta. Kai qa ginei prajh.

ER: Nomizete oti einai anoikto to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn logw twn ejelijewn sto Skopiano;

AP: Oxi. Ta senaria den isxyoyn. Ayth thn periodo exoyme diapragmateyseis se ejelijh kai ofeiloyme na eimaste prosektikoi kai na anamenoyme ta apotelesmata.

ER:Yparxoyn dysxereies sthn oikonomikh politikh opws fainetai mesa apo thn katartish toy proypologismoy;

AP: O proypologismos toy 2008 einai o prwtos meta thn antimetwpish twn elleimmatwn, sta opoia mas odhghsan ta laqh kai oi paraleiceis twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK. Ston proypologismo apotypwnetai h meiwsh toy elleimmatos se pososto katw toy 3%, gia prwth fora apo thn entajh ths xwras sthn ONE. Problepetai h enisxysh twn oikonomika asqenesterwn omadwn toy plhqysmoy. Meta to noikokyrema ths oikonomias, kanoyme prajh tis desmeyseis mas, prwta-prwta stoys exontes tis megalyteres anagkes. Etsi, apo 1.1.2008 ayjanontai oi syntajeis toy OGA. Ayjanetai to EKAS kai to epidoma anergias. Ayjanontai oi misqoi twn stelexwn twn enoplwn dynamewn kai oi syntajeis twn apostratwn, opws eixame desmeyqei. Meiwnetai h forologia kai gia ta fysika proswpa kai gia tis epixeirhseis. Ayth einai h pragmatikothta. Ta problhmata den leipoyn. Alla me th doyleia kai tis swstes apofaseis jepernioyntai.

ER: H kybernhsh synanta dyskolies sto xwro ths Paideias. Nomizete oti oi kinhtopoihseis ypokinoyntai;

AP: Eytyxws gia to kalo ths Paideias kai twn maqhtwn oi katalhceis meiwnontai. Ayto einai to shmantiko dioti oloi prepei na sebontai osa paidia qeloyn na kanoyn maqhma. To dikaiwma sthn Paideia, to dikaiwma sth maqhsh einai anafaireto. Taytoxrona, bebaiws, xreos mas einai na lysoyme ta opoia problhmata yparxoyn sta sxoleia kai kataballoyme kaqe prospaqeia gi' ayto.

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