[01] Karamanlhs: "H Toyrkia telei ypo staqerh parakoloyqhsh"

To dhmosieyma shmeiwnei oti o Ellhnas prwqypoyrgos tassetai yper ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs kai ths entajhs ths Toyrkias sthn EE, apaitei wstoso epitaxynsh twn metarryqmisewn, kaqws mia ``eyrwpaikh'' Toyrkia qa einai ofelos gia oloys. O k. Karamanlhs yposthrije oti se periptwsh ekplhrwshs twn apaitoymenwn proypoqesewn apo thn Toyrkia, qa prepei na ginei dekth ws plhres melos ths EE kai ejefrase th diafwnia toy sxetika me thn protash ths pronomiakhs etairikhs sxeshs. Xarakthrise ``isorrophmeno'' ton prosfato symbibasmo ths EE shmeiwnontas oti ``h Toyrkia brisketai ypo staqerh parakoloyqhsh'', taxqhke yper ths entajiakhs prooptikhs twn xwrwn twn Dytikwn Balkaniwn kai yposthrije oti ta dhmochfismata einai akatallhla gia eyrwpaika qemata, opws h entajh ths Toyrkias h h Syntagmatikh Synqhkh.

Akoloyqei to plhres keimeno ths synenteyjhs:

Erwthsh : Einai h Ellada ikanopoihmenh me to symbibasmo ths EE sthn antiparaqesh gia thn anagnwrish ths Kyproy apo thn Toyrkia ;

Apanthsh : Yposthrizoyme mia eyrwpaikh prooptikh gia thn Toyrkia, dioti yparxoyn peistikoi logoi gib ayto. Mia eyrwpaikh Toyrkia einai mia Toyrkia pros to symferon olwn - toy idioy toy laoy ths, twn geitonwn ths, ths EE genika. Prepei na einai omws mia Toyrkia, h opoia na mhn einai mono sta xartia eyrwpaikh, alla na exei pragmatika apodextei oles tis ajies, tis prodiagrafes, toys tropoys symperiforas kai toys tropoys epilyshs twn diaforwn, poy einai synhqismenoi sthn EE. Sb ayth thn poreia, qa prepei h Toyrkia, opws kai oles oi alles ypochfies xwres, na ylopoihsei ola ta krithria entajhs. H Toyrkia exei analabei ypoxrewseis enanti ths EE. An tis ekplhrwsei, tote sto telos den qa prepei na brisketai tipote allo apo thn plhrh entajh ths. To tonizw ayto, giati sthn EE yparxoyn fwnes, oi opoies protimoyn mia sygkekrimenh asafeia diatypwsewn , otan tiqetai to erwthma, ti qa symbei ean mia mera h Toyrkia pragmati ekplhrwsei oles tis proypoqeseis. Tiqetai zhthma ajiopistias ths EE, na kleisei mia kaqarh symfwnia kai na thn thrhsei. Kanenas de qa hqele na diakocei xwris logo thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, qa prepei omws na aposafhnistei oti h Toyrkia den exei diekperaiwsei eparkws mexri twra ta kaqhkonta ths. Merika bhmata eginan, qa prepei na akoloyqhsoyn wstoso polla akoma - kai malista poly pio grhgora apb oti mexri twra.

Erwthsh : Sta apotelesmata anestalhsan omws mono oktw apo ta 35 kefalaia twn diapragmateysewn, ta opoia ejalloy den anoijan kan.

Apanthsh : Den anestalhsan mono kefalaia. Qa yparjei epipleon mellontika mia taktikh ejetash ths epiteyxqeisas proodoy.

Erwthsh : Den epibrabeyei telika o symbibasmos thn Toyrkia gia th mh-ekplhrwsh twn ypoxrewsewn ths;

Apanthsh : Oxi, den prokeitai gia epibrabeysh. H Toyrkia brisketai ypo staqerh parakoloyqhsh.

Erwthsh : H Ellhnida YPEJ proeidopoihse thn Agkyra oti den qa yparjei gia thn Toyrkia mia bEyrwph ala kartb. Antiqeta, polloi qewroyn oti qa mporoyse na exei pleonekthmata ean h Toyrkia kai h Eyrwph epelegan h mia thn allh bala kartb. Katb ayton ton tropo, den qa ypoxrewnotan h Toyrkia na ylopoihsei ena metarryqmistiko ergo, to opoio ths einai jeno.

Apanthsh : Sebomai tis diaforetikes apoceis kai h synergasia moy me th Germanida Kagkelario einai poly kalh kai stenh. Alla na kanoyme logo gia metarryqmiseis, oi opoies einai jenes se mia xwra, ayto qa mporoyse na isxysei mono, ean eprokeito gia mh synhqismena kaqhkonta. Den prokeitai wstoso gia mia tetoia periptwsh. Syzhtame gia qemeliwdh zhthmata, gia dhmokratikes metarryqmiseis. H Toyrkia qa prepei na ekdhmokratistei. Ki ayto qa eprepe na to kanei akoma kai an syzhtoysame gia mia pronomiakh etairikh sxesh. H EE mporei na kallierghsei mia pronomiakh etairikh sxesh mono mia dhmokratikh xwra. Me mia xwra, sthn opoia o stratos den paizei kanenan ejezhthmeno rolo kai h opoia sebetai ta dikaiwmata twn atomwn kai twn politwn. Mia xwra, h opoia apostasiopoieitai apo th dynatothta xrhshs bias stis sxeseis me tis geitonikes ths xwres kai sebetai anejairetws tis arxes ths kalhs geitonias. Den prokeitai loipon gia ejairetikes proypoqeseis, oi opoies isxyoyn mono gia thn Toyrkia. Prokeitai gia qemeliwdeis kanones, toys opoioys ofeilei na threi kaqe xwra, h opoia epidiwkei eidikes sxeseis me thn EE - opoia morfh ki an exei ayth h synergasia.

Er. Yparxoyn ektimhseis , symfwna me tis opoies h meiwsh ths epirrohs twn stratiwtikwn qa mporoyse na prokalesei ton kindyno enos megalyteroy ejislamismoy ths Toyrkias

Ap. Ayto to epixeirhma proypoqetei oti h Toyrkia de mporei na ginei mia dhmokratia h oti, an ekfrazotan eleyqera h boylhsh toy toyrkikoy laoy, qa diakindyneyan ta dytika symferonta. Tetoies analyseis qa isxyan, an ontws, piqanon prin apo trianta xronia. Sto metajy h Toyrkia exei kanei megala bhmata pros mia koinoboyleytikh dhmokratia. Epipleon se periptwseis poy yparxei amfibolia exw panta megalyterh empistosynh sth boylhsh enos laoy apo th boylhsh mias kastas, sthn periptwsh ayth ths stratiwtikhs kastas. Poios prowqei tis metarryqmiseis sthn Toyrkia, akomh kai se periorismeno plaisio; Poy briskontai oi eyrwpaikes fwnes sthn Toyrkia; Oxi stoys stratiwtikoys.

Er. An dikaiwnotan h politikh sas gia thn Toyrkia, qa ebriske se dhmochfisma thn yposthrijh ths pleiochfias sthn Ellada;

Ap. H megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn epiqymei omales sxeseis me thn Toyrkia. Ejisoy epiqymei h megalh pleiochfia na ginei h Toyrkia eyrwpaikh kai na symperiferetai antistoixa. Eimai pepeismenos oti den einai katallhla gia dhmochfisma ola ta qemata. Ayto isxyei ejalloy kai gia to qema enos eyrwpaikoy Syntagmatos. Exw tis amfibolies moy, an oi polites prin laboyn thn apofash toys, qa ejoikeiwnontan me tis leptomereies mia eyrwpaikhs syntagmatikhs Synqhkhs. H apofash se ena analogo dhmochfisma ejartatai panta apo paragontes, poy den exoyn na kanoyn me ton kentriko pyrhna toy qematos. To dhmochfisma sth Gallia ephreasthke safws apo ton toyrkiko paragonta, poy den exei tipote na kanei me to syntagmatiko qema.

Er. Sth Gallia pantws qa ginei se kaqe periptwsh dhmochfisma gia mia endexomenh entajh ths Toyrkias.

Ap. Kaqe xwra exei tis dikes ths anhsyxies kai proteraiothtes. Sth syzhthsh gia ta synora ths EE den prepei wstoso na jexname, oti h dieyrynsh einai ena isxyro ergaleio gia na feroyme thn eirhnh, th staqerothta, th dhmokratia kai thn eyhmeria se kaqe perioxh ths hpeiroy mas, poy mexri twra den eixe to pronomio na epwfeleitai apo ayto. Aytos htan o logos gia th dieyrynsh ths EE pros K. kai A. Eyrwph, kai etsi exei h katastash me thn prooptikh twn Dytikwn Balkaniwn. Katalabainw epifylajeis poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn ikanothta ths EE na dextei nea melh. Omws de qa prepei na xrhsimopoioyntai asxhma ws empodia gia th dieyrynsh ths EE, alla na xrhsimopoioyntai ws kinhtra gia apofasistika bhmata sthn embaqynsh ths. Einai strathgika ejypno, na eipwqei stis xwres twn Dytikwn Balkaniwn oti qa prepei na perimenoyn gia anypologisto xrono thn entajh sthn EE, otan qa exoyn ekplhrwsei ola ta apaitoymena krithria; Epeidh qeloyme prwta na taktopoihsoyme ta toy oikoy mas; Ayth den einai h swsth eidhsh gia ta Balkania.

Er. Pws blepei h kybernhsh sas thn katastash sto katexomeno apo thn Toyrkia tmhma ths Kyproy; O toyrkikos plhqysmos zhtei ena telos ths oikonomikhs apomonwshs.

Ap. Ayth h erwthsh afora se tria kefalaia. Kefalaio prwto : mia apo tis ypoxrewseis poy exei h Toyrkia na ekplhrwsei sthn eyrwpaikh poreia ths einai h efarmogh toy Prwtokolloy ths Agkyras. Ayto shmainei oti prepei na anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Kefalaio deytero : afora sthn politikh diairesh ths Kyproy. Ypo thn aigida twn HE egine to 2004 h prospaqeia na jeperastei h diairesh toy nhsioy. Ayth h prospaqeia apetyxe se ena dhmochfisma. To trito kefalaio afora sto pws mporoyn na bohqhqoyn oi Toyrkokyprioi , gia na beltiwsoyn to epipedo diabiwshs toys. Kaneis sthn Ellada den exei tipote enantia se ayto, na yposthrijoyn toys Toyrkokyprioys, wste na beltiwsoyn to epipedo diabiwshs toys. Omws ayto prepei na epilyqei sto plaisio toy anagnwrismenoy apo th dieqnh Koinothta statoys ths Kyproy - h Kypros einai mia xwra, mia Dhmokratia. Den prepei na yparjei mia emmesh endeijh, oti ekei yparxei ena xwristo toyrkiko kratos.

Er. O kyprios Proedros Papadopoylos katafere me epityxia to 2004 na anatrecei to dhmochfisma twn HE gia mia epanenwsh toy nhsioy. Enhrghse enantia sth symboylh apo thn Aqhna. H kybernhsh sas aisqanetai ejapathmenh apo ton Papadopoylo;

Ap. Me kaqe kypriakh kybernhsh synergazomaste stena. Ayto einai ena eidos eqnikoy kaqhkontos. Omws kamia pleyra den qa eixe thn idea, na epibalei sthn allh th qelhsh ths. H Kypros einai ena anejarthto kratos, poy exei tis dikes tis proteraiothtes, pairnei tis dikes ths apofaseis, kaqorizei th dikh ths atzenta. H symfwnhmenh diadikasia apo ta HE gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy proeblepe th diejagwgh dhmochfismatwn. Oi Kyprioi ejefrasan th qelhsh toys safws kai me megalh pleiochfia. Fysika oloi gnwrizoyme oti mia epilysh toy Kypriakoy prepei na exei pleyres enos symbibasmoy. Omws de qa prepei na jexnietai : to qema ths Kyproy einai ena qema stratiwtikhs eisbolhs kai katoxhs kai h protash twn HE proeblepe th monimh paramonh stratiwtikwn dynamewn.

Er. Makroproqesma problepotan mono h paramonh enos symbolikoy apospasmatos 650 toyrkwn stratiwtwn.

Ap. Prokeitai gia to basiko qema ths stratiwtikhs paroysias. Mporei kapoios na fantastei ena kratos melos ths EE na anexetai jena strateymata sto edafos toy ; Ayth einai mia ryqmish poy brisketai se antiqesh me tis eyrwpaikes arxes kai to aytonohto.

Er. Kai sth geitonia ths Elladas sta Balkania yparxoyn adieykrinista qemata statoys. Isxyei akomh h yposxesh mias eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs gia ta legomena krath twn Dytikwn Balkaniwn;

Ap. Gia ayto to qema yphrje mia anoixth kai diejodikh syzhthsh sthn teleytaia Synodo Koryfhs stis Bryjelles. H entypwsh moy htan, oti toylaxiston kata bash den paramenei diafilonikoymeno, an h politikh gia ta Dytika Balkania de qa eprepe na metablhqei. Pantws h mera ths entajhs brisketai akomh poly makria. Arxika gia ta krath ayta brisketai h diapragmateysh kai efarmogh twn Symfwniwn Staqeropoihshs kai Syndeshs me thn EE. Sth syzhthsh gia th dieyrynsh yparxei h idiaiterothta, oti prokeitai gia mia perioxh, poy apo pleyras oikonomikoy megeqoys kai plhqysmoy einai sxedon mia mikrografia.

Erwthsh : Prokeitai wstoso gia to miso plhqysmo ths Polwnias.

Apanthsh : Kai gib ayto to logo allwste den einai shmantiko to ariqmhtiko epixeirhma. Mia peraiterw idiaiterothta afora sto endexomeno kostos ths mh entajhs. Mia nea apostaqeropoihsh twn Balkaniwn den mporei na apokleistei. As paroyme gia paradeigma th lepth ypoqesh toy Kosoboy, h opoia endexomenws kyoforei mia nea apostaqeropoihsh twn Balkaniwn.

Erwthsh : Sigoyro einai oti den diafainetai mia lysh, sthn opoia qa mporoysan na symfwnhsoyn Serboi kai Albanoi.

Apanthsh : Kaqe lysh qa prepei na krinetai apo ta apotelesmata ths. Qa parexei h lysh se ola ta emplekomena merh kinhtra, wste na symperiferqoyn epoikodomhtika, akoma kai ean den symfwnoyn me kapoia shmeia ths; Poies qa einai oi epiptwseis; Qa beltiwqei h katastash twn aplwn anqrwpwn; Posh eyrwpaikh desmeysh qa apaithqei gia th diasfalish ayths ths lyshs mesw strateymatwn kai gia poson kairo qa apaithqei ayth h desmeysh; Qa mporoyse kapoios na fantastei oti sth Serbia politikoi tyxodiwktes kai eqnikistes qa ginontan kyriarxh dynamh kai qa odhgoysan th xwra se mh eyrwpaikoys dromoys mesw ths ekmetalleyshs ths genikoterhs orghs kata mias endexomenhs anejarthsias toy Kosoboy - einai ayth mia ejelijh, thn opoia epiqymoyme;

Erwthsh : Polloi ektimoyn oti to Kosobo, se periptwsh mh ejeyreshs lyshs, endexomenws na anagnwristei monomerws apo to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE katb arxas, kai apo thn Oyasigkton kai alla dytika krath sth synexeia.

Apanthsh : Prosdokw oti h koinwnia twn kratwn kai to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE qa broyn mia lysh, h opoia qa einai politika kai hqika apodekth. Prokeitai gia ena zhthma, gia th lysh toy opoioy apaiteitai logikh kai synesh apo oles tis pleyres.

Erwthsh : Ti qa odhghsei se megalyterh astaqeia sthn perioxh : na doqei h oxi anejarthsia sto Kosobo;

Apanthsh : Arxika, tiqetai ws erwthma, to ean h lysh qa prepei na einai h anejarthsia h oxi. Se kaqe periptwsh, to apotelesma qa dhmioyrghsei gia ena mh problepto xroniko diasthma mia katastash, h opoia qa xreiazetai ejwqen staqeropoihsh.

Synanthsh toy prwqypoyrgoy me thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn

Qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kaqws kai ton programmatismo twn tajidiwn toy prwqypoyrgoy gia to 2007, syzhthse h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Ntora Mpakogiannh, sth synanthsh poy eixe shmera to prwi me ton Kwsta Karamanlh sto Megaro Majimoy.

Se erwthsh gia to pws sxoliazei thn protash twn Skopiwn na dwsoyn to onoma "Megas Alejandros" sto aerodromio toys, h k. Mpakogiannh apanthse: "Den yparxei epishmh anakoinwsh, den exoyme tetoia plhroforia, h endiamesh symfwnia einai se isxy kai kalo einai na apofeygontai energeies poy mporoyn na parejhghqoyn".

H k. Mpakogiannh eipe akomh oti syzhthqhke to qema toy agwgoy Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolhs kai shmeiwse oti yparxoyn orismenes diaforetikes apoceis metajy twn xwrwn poy emplekontai.

Telos, se erwthsh sxetikh me tis ekloges, h k. Mpakogiannh apanthse "pollh doyleia blepw mprosta mas, ekloges den blepw".

Synanthsh Karamanlh me D.Sioyfa

To 2007 einai etos antagwnistikothtas, newn texnologiwn kai kainotomias, dhlwse o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs Dhmhtrhs Sioyfas, meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Karamanlh sto Megaro Majimoy.

Meta th synanthsh, eipe, oti syzhthse me ton prwqypoyrgo thn proetoimasia, ston xwro twn metarryqmisewn, gia thn enisxysh toy anaptyjiakoy sxedioy toy ypoyrgeioy.

Prosqese oti syzhthse me ton prwqypoyrgo ta 11 nomosxedia poy qa kataqesei sth Boylh mexri ton Aprilio.

O k. Sioyfas rwthqhke gia to ''an qa ginoyn prowres ekloges ''kai apanthse oti'' o programmatismos toy kybernhtikoy ergoy exei orizonta 4etias kai oti aytes einai oi odhgies toy prwqypoyrgoy.''

Se allh erwthsh gia to an qa ginei allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy, o k. Sioyfas dhlwse oti h allagh qa mporoyse na ginei an symfwnoyse kai to PASOK.

Prosqese oti den blepei na symfwnei to PASOK kai shmeiwse oti tis epomenes alla kai tis meqepomenes ekloges qa tis kerdisei h Nea Dhmokratia kai o Kwstas Karamanlhs.

Sth synanthsh syzhthqhke kai to qema toy agwgoy Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolhs. H ellhnikh pleyra, anefere o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs, exei syzhthsei ola ta zhthmata me th Rwsia kai th Boylgaria kai kapoies ekkremothtes poy yparxoyn aforoyn th Rwsia kai th Boylgaria.

Anefere oti yphrje kaqysterhsh logw twn boylgarikwn eklogwn, alla oti o xronos aytos kerdiqhke me tis energeies poy ekane h ellhnikh pleyra kai me ta tajidia poy ekane o idios kai o genikos grammateas toy ypoyrgeioy k. Nikos Stefanoy sth Mosxa kai sth Sofia.

O k. Sioyfas rwthqhke kai gia to qema ths akribeias kai apanthse oti oydepote isxyristhke oti den yparxei akribeia. Prosqese oti paqogeneies kai agkylwseis apo to xqes den mporoyn na lyqoyn apo th mia stigmh sthn allh.

Wstoso, prosqese, oi elegxoi einai synexeis kai oi times poy epiballontai se periptwseis parabasewn einai aysthres.

Telos, anefere oti h xwra antimetwpise th megalh ayjhsh twn timwn toy petrelaioy poy epideinwse to problhma ths akribeias, wstoso katafere na enswmatwsei tis megales aytes ayjhseis me omalo tropo.

[02] Kaklamanhs: Beltiwsh ths ypodomhs ths Barbakeioy

O k. Kaklamanhs shmeiwse oti ta teleytaia xronia h Barbakeios Agora, apo apoch ypodomhs exei kanei almata proodoy, me th bohqeia toy ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs kai toy Dhmoy Aqhnaiwn.

H symperifora twn anqrwpwn ths agoras eipe, exei beltiwqei opws kai h poiothta twn parexomenwn proiontwn enw ta memonwmena peristatika poy parathroyntai ta katadikazoyn prwta oi idioi oi anqrwpoi ths agoras, prosqetontas oti to idio qa prajei kai o idios ws dhmarxos.

O k. Kaklamanhs epeshmane pws exei enhmerwqei plhrws gia tis ekkremothtes se oti afora tis ypodomes ths Barbakeioy, oi opoies thn prosexh dietia qa taktopoihqoyn.

O neos dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn ekane idiaiterh anafora sthn acogh synergasia metajy twn emporwn, paragwgwn kai ergazomenwn ths Barbakeioy me thn aperxomenh Dhmotikh Arxh, synergasia poy qa synexisqei kai me thn nea Dhmotikh Arxh sto synolo ths.

H agora parathrhse, den einai pedio kommatikwn h paratajiakwn antiqesewn, alla pedio prostasias toy katanalwth kai ths ajioprepeias twn swstwn anqrwpwn poy ergazontai sb aythn.

Apantwntas se erwthsh dhmosiografwn sxetika me to problhma twn skoypidiwn, o k. Kaklamanhs tonise pws hrqe h wra poy prepei na lhfqoyn megales politikes apofaseis. "To qema twn skoypidiwn den prokeitai na lyqei me th dhmioyrgia newn XYTA . Aytoi xreiazontai gia ena mikro xroniko diasthma , mexri na anaptyxqei h nea texnologia me ergostasia poy den rypainoyn thn atmosfaira".

O k. Kaklamanhs xarakthrise to aithma dhmioyrgias ergostasiwn skoypidiwn kyriarxo , yposthrizontas oti ta nea organa ths topikhs aytodioikhshs KEDKE kai TEDKNA prepei na to qesoyn sthn kybernhsh. Epanelabe , oti o idios to exei hdh kanei anepishma toso se synanthseis poy eixe sta dyo armodia ypoyrgeia, Eswterikwn kai PEXWDE , oso kai kata th xqesinh atyph episkech toy sto idiaitero grafeio toy prwqypoyrgoy opoy eixe synanthsh me to Dieyqynth toy k. G. Aggeloy.

O neos dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn katelhje gia to qema twn skoypidiwn epishmainontas : "Den mporoyme pleon to 2007 na milame gia xwmateres. Hrqe h wra ths neas texnologias" .

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