[01] Synergasia toy prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias

"Boylhsh ths kybernhshs einai me apotelesmatikothta na efarmosei ayth th megalh metarryqmish. Se o,ti afora thn eisodhmatikh politikh meta th dieth symfwnia GSEE-SEB einai wrimes oi synqhkes gia na exoyme dieth symfwnia anamesa stoys ergazomenoys kai tis dioikhseis twn dhmosiwn epixeirhsewn kai organismwn, mesa sta oria antoxhs ths oikonomias".

O k. Alogoskoyfhs ejefrase thn elpida na breqei symfwnia ews ta telh Aprilioy wste na mhn xreiastei na ferei nomo h kybernhsh me ton opoio qa orizei thn eisodhmatikh politikh, opws problepei to nomosxedio poy exei chfistei gia tis DEKO.

Se erwthsh an oi ayjhseis 4% to 2007 shmatodotoyn kai proqesh gia thn dienergeia prowrwn eklogwn, opws anaferoyn kai dhmosieymata, o k. Alogoskoyfhs ypogrammise oti h kybernhsh exei sxediasmo tetraetias, pws to 2005-2006 htan mia krisimh dietia gia thn antimetwpish toy dhmosionomikoy elleimmatos, enw gia th synexeia problepetai synexeia sth forologikh metarryqmish gia toys misqwtoys me meiwsh twn syntelestwn kai metra gia toys toys xamhlomisqoys kai xamhlosyntajioyxoys.

Sto metajy, to prwi sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomias, oi kk G.Alogoskoyfhs kai D.Sioyfas syzhthsan tis dynatothtes na xorhghqoyn forologika kinhtra gia thn epektash twn Ananewsimwn Phgwn Energeias

O ypoyrgos Oikonomias sthn synexeia milhse sto synedrio toy ``Ekonomist'' kai dhlwse oti prepei na proetoimasoyme tis synqhkes, wste h kybernhsh ths "epomenhs tetraetias" na jekinhsei kai na proxwrhsei th metarryqmish sto asfalistiko systhma.

O k. Alogoskoyfhs anefere epishs oti h kybernhsh apodidei emfash sto dialogo gia th metarryqmish toy asfalistikoy problhmatos kai qa prepei na epiteyxqei h megisth dynath politikh kai koinwnikh synainesh, enw o dialogos qa einai makras pnohs kai qa prepei na ejetastoyn oles oi parametroi.

To metarryqmistiko mas programma qa synexistei kai ta epomena xronia, eipe o ypoyrgos, me th megisth ajiopoihsh twn eykairiwn, wste na katastei h Ellada "pyrhnas dynamikhs anaptyjhs".

O ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn anaferqhke sthn ayjhsh toy kata kefalhn eisodhmatos twn Ellhnwn (ws posostoy toy AEP twn "15" ths EE), to opoio apo 75,4% poy htan ta prohgoymena xronia, to 2005 efqase to 77,1% kai to 2007 qa ayjhqei sto 80%.

Ayjhsh epishs, epeshmane, shmeiwsan kai to pragmatiko eisodhma twn Ellhnwn, ta kerdh twn eishgmenwn etairiwn, oi ejagwges kai o toyrismos. Oles oi anwterw qetikes ejelijeis eixan ws apotelesma thn ayjhsh ths apasxolhshs kata 1,3% kai gia prwth fora th meiwsh ths anergias se pososto katw toy 10%.

O k. Alogoskoyfhs dhlwse oti o ryqmos anaptyjhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias "ekleise" sto 3,7% to 2005, para tis megales ayjhseis poy shmeiwqhkan stis times toy petrelaioy kai thn oikonomikh stasimothta ths Eyrwzwnhs.

Oi metarryqmiseis petyxan to stoxo toys kai h dhmosionomikh prosarmogh synexizetai. Ta apotelesmata ayta den hrqan apo mona toys, eipe o ypoyrgos kai prosqese oti htan apotelesma toy rizikoy anasxhmatismoy ths oikonomias. Allazoyme, prosqese, ena streblo parwxhmeno montelo anaptyjhs, poy sthrizotan sthn ayjhsh twn elleimmatwn kai sthn ayjhsh toy dhmosioy xreoys.

O k. Alogoskoyfhs ypenqymise oti oi qeseis apasxolhshs ayjhqhkan metajy toy 1994 kai toy 2003 kata 25%. Opws eipe, oi dhmosioi ypallhloi hsan 476.000 to 1994 kai to 2003 efqasan toys 597.000. H katastash ayth, prosqese, den mporoyse na synexistei. Ypenqymise epishs oti to dhmosio xreos eixe fqasei to 110% toy AEP kai oti gia thn ejyphrethsh toy dapanwntai 10 disek. eyrw ethsiws.

Basikh mas proteraiothta, katelhje o ypoyrgos, htan kai paramenei h diorqwsh ths anisorropias ths oikonomias kai qa synexistei h hpia dhmosionomikh prosarmogh, me ametaqeto stoxo th meiwsh toy dhmosioy xreoys kai twn dhmosiwn elleimmatwn.

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[02] Aqanasakhs gia afisa ths PASP

O Qodwros Roysopoylos eixe epishmanei afisa ths PASP poy deixnei ena aeroplano na peftei panw se dyo galazioys didymoys pyrgoys.

Eidikotera se dhlwseis toy o ekproswpos toy PASOK anefere oti h foithtikh paratajh toy PASOK shmeiwse anodo ths tajhs toy 1-6% kai malista se periodo organwtikhs anasygkrothshs. Epishs anefere oti h PASP anadeixqhke prwth dynamh se polles sxoles, se arketes apo tis opoies gia prwth fora.

O ekproswpos toy PASOK sxoliazontas, ej alloy, tis dhlwseis toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy gia thn afissa ths PASP Nomikhs Aqhnwn, epekrine ton k. Roysopoylo oti epixeirei symchfismo se pragmata poy den symchfizontai.

"Oi aisxres kai xydaies ybreis enantion toy proedroy toy PASOK kai to xamogelo eytyxias toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy den mporoyn na sygkriqoyn, na symchfistoyn kai na kryfqoyn pisw apo mia afissa me laqos politiko mhnyma h opoia profanws apodokimazetai",anefere o ekproswpos toy PASOK.

O k. Aqanasakhs eipe epishs oti oi antidraseis toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy einai bradyflegeis kai epeshmane oti oi parathrhseis pros toys foithtes ths PASP sth sygkekrimenh sxolh eixan ginei protoy anaferqei sto qema o kybernhtikos ekproswpos.

O ekproswpos toy PASOK kathgorhse epishs ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo oti leei cemmata otan yposthrizei pws osa eginan sthn Qessalonikh apoteloyn memonwmenh periptwsh kai ypenqymise analoga synqhmata poy akoysthkan se alles sxoles, alla kai sto xqesino sxolio toy G. Alogoskoyfh meta thn apoxwrhsh boyleytwn toy PASOK apo thn armodia epitroph Oikonomikwn, sxolio gia to opoio o k. Roysopoylos erwthqeis shmera sxetika apanthse me th frash "kanena sxolio".

O k. Aqanasakhs zhthse apo ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo "na afhsei toys mperloyskonismoys" giati den mporei, opws tonise, na diapaidagwgeitai me ayton ton tropo h neolaia enos megaloy kommatos.

O ekproswpos toy PASOK ekane logo epishs gia epanalhch twn idiwn "xydaiwn synqhmatwn" kata toy proedroy toy PASOK xqes kai shmera stis sxoles apo foithtes ths DAP, oi opoioi, opws prosqese, to teleytaio dihmero proebhsan se jylodarmoys,trampoykismoys kai prospaqhsan na noqeysoyn ta apotelesmata se arketes sxoles.

Gia ola ayta , tonise o k. Aqanasakhs, o prwqypoyrgos siwpa.

Anaferomenos se dhlwseis toy k. Roysopoyloy gia thn ejormhsh twn stelexwn ths ND sthn Perifereia, o k. Aqanasakhs tonise oti ekei qa breqoyn mprosta sta cemmata ths kybernhshs ths ND kai sta pragmatika problhmata, apo ta opoia den qa mporoyn na kryfqoyn kai prosqese oti to syrtari to PASOK exei polla apo ayta poy kanei h kybernhsh kai einai antiqeta se ekeina poy elege proeklogika.

Dhlwseis Roysopoyloy

Se afisa ths PASP poy deixnei ena aeroplano na peftei panw se dyo galazioys didymoys pyrgoys, anaferqhke shmera o kybernhtikos ekproswpos Q. Roysopoylos legontas oti oi syneirmoi poy dhmioyrgoyntai einai aparadektoi kai profaneis, proballoyn thn tromokratia kai aselgoyn sta qymata twn tromokratwn se olo ton kosmo.

H xwra mas, eipe o k. Roysopoylos, exei plhrwsei me aima thn tromokratia kai oloi oi dhmokratika eyaisqhtoi polites katadikazoyn tetoies energeies.

Kaloyme to PASOK kai ton Proedro toy, synexise o k. Roysopoylos, na katadikasoyn shmera thn aparadekth kai antidhmokratikh energeia ths neolaias toys,na katastrecoyn thn afisa kai na zhthsoyn dhmosiws sygnwmh gi' ayth thn aprepeia. Qelw na pisteyw, katelhje, oti den exei thn egkrish ths hgesias toy PASOK.

Erwthqeis gia dhlwseis stelexwn ths ND poy htan se ychloys tonoys, o k. Roysopoylos eipe oti den ginontai symchfismoi kai oti h afisa ths PASP synista aparadekth energeia.

Gia to qema twn synqhmatwn poy akoysthkan sto amfiqeatro apo melh ths DAP sth Qessalonikh, o ekproswpos apanthse oti einai memonwmenh energeia thn opoia exei katadikasei h kybernhsh, opws epishs kai o Proedros ths ONNED.

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[03] Nees kataqeseis sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs

O k. Aggeloy tonise oti h monh emplokh toy sthn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn htan h enhmerwsh poy eixe to bradi ths Pempths 10 hs Martioy, paroysia kai toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs Giwrgoy Boylgarakh apo ton dieyqynonta symboylo ths Bontafon k. Korwnia.

Ejistorwntas xronika ta gegonota, o k. Aggeloy anefere oti o antiproedros kai dieyqynwn symboylos ths Vodafone, Giwrgos Korwnias, epikoinwnhse thn Tetarth 9 Martioy, me to grafeio toy prwqypoyrgoy zhtwntas proswpikh synanthsh mazi toy gia qema ycisths eqnikhs asfaleias.

Opws ejhghse o k. Aggeloy h synanthsh Korwnia - prwqypoyrgoy htan adynato na ginei prin apo thn Paraskeyh to bradi, kaqws o prwqypoyrgos qa briskotan sthn Ispania se epishmo tajidi.

``Thn Pempth to prwi thlefwnhse jana sthn idiaitera toy prwqypoyrgoy, me thn opoia eixe epikoinwnhsei kai thn prohgoymenh mera, enw otan egw toy thlefwnhsa argotera, o k. Korwnias briskotan sto ghpedo. Dexthke na synanthqoyme stis 8 to bradi ths idias meras'' tonise o k. Aggeloy.

Sto shmeio ayto o k. Aggeloy, anefere ti akribws eipe o k. Korwnias paroysia kai toy tote ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs Giwrgoy Boylgarakh gia to qema twn ypoklopwn legontas:

`` O k. Korwnias mas eipe oti, me aformh ta problhmata sthn apostolh mhnymatwn se syndromhtes ton Ianoyario toy 2005, arxise apo thn BONTAFON h ereyna - h opoia apebh akarph - wste na entopistei to problhma. Opws eipe o k. Korwnias, apeyqynqhke sthn ERICSON Elladas, sth synexeia ths Ispanias kai meta sth mhtrikh etairia ths Soyhdias gia na elegxqei to systhma .

Sthn erwthsh mas, emena kai toy k Boylgarakh -synexise- gia to pws htan dynato na yparxei logismiko stis egkatastaseis ths BONTAFON kai na mhn exei apokalyfqei apo toys idioys, o k. Korwnias mas eipe oti htan ychlhs texnologias kai eixe th dynatothta na ginetai aorato. Epishs mas diabebaiwse oti to sygkekrimeno logismiko den eixe paraggelqei apo thn BONTAFON oyte kai me thn idiothta na yparxei stis egkatastaseis ths kai na einai anenergo. Akoma o k. Korwnias eipe oti stis 7 Martioy edwse entolh na afaireqei amesws to paranomo logismiko, kati poy egine, opws mas eipe thn epomenh mera''.

Anaferomenos se osa eipe o k. Korwnias gia to qema ths aytoktonias Tsalikidh, o k. Aggeloy tonise: `` O k. Korwnias mas anefere kai to peristatiko ths aytoktonias Tsalikidh, sth logikh oti htan ena atyxes gegonos poy sygkyriaka synepipte me tis ypoklopes, alla den mporoyse na syndeqei''.

Kleinontas thn prwth topoqethsh toy o k. Aggeloy shmeiwse: ``Egine mia synomilia kyriws metajy toy k. Boylgarakh kai toy k. Korwnia. Htan dysxerhs giati eprepe na exeis eidikes gnwseis se texnika qemata''.

Anaferomenos sto qema ths enhmerwshs toy prwqypoyrgoy, o k. Aggeloy shmeiwse oti ``epeidh htan adynath h epikoinwnia ekeinh th stigmh me ton prwqypoyrgo giati briskotan se epishmo deipno me ton ispano omologo toy, ton enhmerwsa arga to bradi. O prwqypoyrgos molis to emaqe eipe oti htan mia poly sobarh ypoqesh gia thn opoia prepei na epilhfqei h dikaiosynh''.

Kai o k. Aggeloy ekleise thn prwth topoqethsh toy legontas xarakthristika: ``Mexri ekei htan h emplokh moy''.

Se erwthsh toy prwhn proedroy ths Boylhs Apostoloy Kaklamanh an eixe symmetasxei h eixe synergasia se kybernhtikes syskeceis enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sxetika me to problhma ths asfaleias toys kai idiaitera logw twn piesewn poy dexotan h xwra mas gia tyxon tromokratikes epiqeseis, o k. Aggeloy apanthse arnhtika tonizontas oti ``eimai synergaths toy proedroy toy kommatos den exw kanena rolo kai symmetoxh sthn kybernhsh''.

ENTASH STHN EPITROPH

Sthn arxh ths synedriashs shmeiwqhke entash anamesa ston proedro ths Epitrophs Anastasio Karamario, boyleytes ths ND kai boyleytes toy PASOK.

Toso o prwhn proedros ths Boylhs Ap. Kaklamanhs ,oso kai o Eyaggelos Benizelos kathgorhsan thn kybernhsh gia kwlysiergia sto qema twn ypoklopwn, enw ekanan logo gia oligwria toso ths Epitrophs ths Boylhs oso kai ths Dikaiosynhs. Parallhla zhthsan h Epitroph na epitaxynei to ergo ths synedriazontas syxnotera.

Oi anafores aytes prokalesan tis entones antidraseis kai toy proedroy ths Epitrophs kai boyleytwn ths ND poy me th seira toys epiteqhkan sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kathgorwntas thn gia prospaqeia epikoinwniakwn texnasmatwn.

Apo thn pleyra toys oi boyleytes toy PASOK zhthsan na klhqoyn sthn Epitroph o dioikhths ths EYP Iwannhs Koranths, o tote ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, o epikefalhs toy politikoy grafeioy toy prwqypoyrgoy Kwstas Staikoyras, texnikoi symboyloi twn dyo etairiwn BONTAFON kai ERICSON poy eixan emplokh me to qema twn ypoklopwn, kaqws kai ekproswpoi twn allwn etairiwn ths kinhths thlefwnias poy einai se qesh na apanthsoyn ti egine me to qema twn nomimwn synakroasewn.

Opws yposthrijan oi k. Kaklamanhs kai Benizelos prepei na klhqoyn apo thn Epitroph kaqws proekycan nea stoixeia. Malista o k Benizelos zhthse, epeidh opws yposthrije yparxei mia kinhtikothta toy prwqypoyrgoy me synanthseis poy exei se sxesh me tis ypoklopes, me thn ADAE kai me thn Epitroph Sofwn, na katateqoyn sthn Epitroph ola ta sxetika eggrafa. Akoma zhthse na probei h ADAE se texniko elegxo sta mhxanhmata ths EYP gia na dieykrinistei, opws eipe, an entopizei apla tis parakoloyqhseis kai den kanei synakroaseis.

``Qa metatrecoyme thn Epitroph se Ejetastikh;'' htan h antidrash toy k. Karamarioy.

Sto shmeio ayto dhmioyrghqhke entash otan o k Karamarios prospaqhse na synexistei h syzhthsh me thn akroash toy k. Aggeloy kai gia ola ta diadikastika qemata na symfwnhqei sto telos ths synedriashs. ``Mhn eiste apajiwtikos, na eiste prosektikos. Mhn kanete xeironomies kai morfasmoys, maqete na proedreyete'' tonise o k Benizelos.

O boyleyths ths ND Giannhs Kefalogiannhs tonise "Exoyme dikaiwma na milhsoyme". ``Me tis protaseis poy fernoyn oi boyleytes ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, ws pros ta proswpa poy prepei na klhqoyn teinei h Epitroph mas na ginei anakritikh'', anteteine o boyleyths ths ND Giannhs Kefalogiannhs, enw symplhrwse:

Me thn idia logikh qa prepei na klhqoyn sthn Epitroph kai oi prwhn Ypoyrgoi Dhmosias Tajhs toy PASOK kaqws kai o prwhn dioikhths ths EYP. H kybernhsh einai to qyma ypoklopwn. Emeis den qeloyme na kryftei tipota, antiqeta qeloyme na maqei olh thn alhqeia o laos''.

Apo thn pleyra toy, o grammateas toy kommatos Apostolos Stayroy epiteqhke sto PASOK legontas xarakthristika: ``Oi epiqeseis toy PASOK gia oligwria einai apolyta anapodeiktes kai mono stoxo exoyn thn dhmioyrgia klimatos entashs. Enw emeis endiaferomaste gia thn oysia, h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh qelei alla qemata na probalei. Ayto to egklhma omws, as mhn to jexname, strafhke kyriws kata toy prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs''.

"Pantelws agnwstos sto prwqypoyrgiko grafeio htan o dieyqynwn symboylos ths Vodafone k. G. Korwnias ews to brady ths Tetarths 9 Martioy 2005", dhlwse o k. Giannhs Aggeloy, otan rwthqhke gia th sobarothta toy thlefwnhmatos Korwnia kai prosqese oti otan epishmanqhke ston k. Korwnia oti o prwqypoyrgos den qa htan diaqesimos mexri thn Paraskeyh to meshmeri (11/3/2005) ekeinos den epemene na ton dei opwsdhpote ekeino to brady ths Tetarths.

Ejalloy o prwhn proedros ths Boylhs k. Ap. Kaklamanhs xarakthrise periergo to gegonos oti sympiptei xronika h klhsh toy k. Aggeloy sthn Epitroph me thn hmera ths metagwghs toy Ap. Babylh sthn Aqhna apo tis italikes fylakes ths Mpolonias. Pros stigmhn dhmioyrghqhke entash, enw o proedros ths Epitrophs An. Karamarios zhthse thn anaklhsh aytoy toy xarakthrismoy, kaqws -opws shmeiwse- h shmerinh synedriash ths Epitrophs eixe oristei apo tis 29 Martioy.

Apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh toy tews proedroy ths Boylhs Ap. Kaklamanh, o k. G. Aggeloy tonise oti "shmera syneidhtopoioyme th shmasia ths afaireshs toy pareisaktoy logismikoy. Den eixame tote tis texnikes gnwseis gia na antilhfqoyme th shmasia ths afaireshs toy".

O k. Aggeloy apanthse arnhtika se erwthsh toy boyleyth toy PASOK k. M. Papaiwannoy gia to an o prwqypoyrgos xrhsimopoioyse to thlefwno ths etairias toy patera toy, enw se allh erwthsh an to thlefwno poy eixe diateqei ston prwqypoyrgo apo th Boylh, ontws parakoloyqeito, o k. Aggeloy eipe oti "htan ston katalogo kai htan ena apo ta thlefwna poy xrhsimopoioyse".

O k. Aggeloy anefere sta melh ths koinoboyleytikhs epitrophs oti o prwqypoyrgos xrhsimopoiei ``kamia eikosaria'' thlefwna, kai oti h epikoinwnia mazi toy ginetai apo sygkekrimeno thlefwno poy afhnei kaqe fora sth grammateia toy. ``Ta thlefwna enallassontai taktika'' gia asfaleia, dieykrinise o k. Aggeloy, apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh toy boyleyth toy SRA F. Koybelh.

Se erwthsh ths boyleytoy Ab Aqhnwn toy KKE L. Kanellh gia thn antidrash toy prwqypoyrgoy otan enhmerwqhke gia thn ypoqesh, o k. Aggeloy eipe oti (o k. Karamanlhs) qa enhmerwne o idios toys ypoyrgoys kai oti to qema qa phgaine sth Dikaiosynh.

Se erwthseis twn F. Koybelh (SRA) kai Ey. Benizeloy (PASOK) gia toys logoys poy o k. Korwnias den apeyqynqhke sthn ADAE, o k. Aggeloy eipe oti sthn epimaxh synanthsh den egine syzhthsh gia thn thrhsh mystikothtas h aporrhtoy sthn ypoqesh.

Otan o k. Benizelos, kai argotera o F. Petsalnikos (PASOK), rwthsan ton k. Aggeloy gia to logo poy zhthse apo ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs na parastei sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Korwnia, kai oxi apo alloys ypoyrgoys, opws ton ypoyrgo Epikoinwniwn M. Liaph, o k. Aggeloy eipe oti etsi ektimhse, logw ths epiklhshs zhthmatos eqnikhs asfaleias.

Erwthqeis apo ton idio boyleyth an yphrjan alles epafes toy prwqypoyrgikoy grafeioy me anqrwpoys ths Bontafon, o k. Aggeloy eipe oti yphrje mia epikoinwnia me ton k. G. Stefanopoylo me aformh nomosxedio gia thn egkatastash keraiwn kinhths thlefwnias. Opws eipe o k. Aggeloy, eixe palaia gnwrimia me ton k. Stefanopoylo, apo ton opoio eixe zhthsei na enisxyqei to adynato shma ths etaireias sthn Io, opoy paraqerize o k. Karamanlhs (kai ws arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs) wste na mporei na xrhsimopoiei to kinhto thlefwno poy toy eixe paraxwrhsei h Boylh.-

Sxolio Aqanasakh

Sthn logikh ths sygkalychs kinhqhke o Giannhs Aggeloy sth shmerinh kataqesh toy sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs, dhlwse o ekproswpos toy PASOK Nikos Aqanasakhs.

O k. Aqanasakhs prosqese oti o k. Aggeloy htan epideiktika oligologos kai ton apokalese "kyrio den gnwrizw". Par'ola ayta prosqese, o k. Aggeloy meteqese to problhma stoys ypoyrgoys kai ton prwqypoyrgo.

Anaferomenos sthn kat' antiparastash ejetash twn k.k. Korwnia kai Zhkoy o ekproswpos toy PASOK anefere oti apo th diadikasia ayth perissotera qemata anoijan para ekleisan.

Yphrjan, prosqese, antifaseis kai anadeixqhkan eyqynes ths kybernhshs gia energeies poy den eginan gia thn apokalych twn drastwn.

H ejetash twn k.k. Korwnia kai Zhkoy

Tis idies qeseis poy eixan diatypwsei kai thn prwth fora poy eixan klhqei sthn Epitroph Qesmwn ths Boylhs sxetika me to qema ths egkatastashs toy systhmatos gia tis "nomimes synakroaseis" diatypwsan kai shmera sthn katb antiparastash ejetash toys sthn Epitroph o Antiproedros kai Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths Bontafon Giwrgos Korwnias kai o Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths Erikson Mpil Zhkoy.

O k. Korwnias epemeine oti h Bontafon pote den parhggeile, den promhqeythke kai den egkatesthse to epimaxo logismiko gia tis "nomimes synakroaseis", enw, apo thn pleyra toy, o k. Zhkoy epanelabe oti h diadikasia enhmerwshs twn pelatwn, mesw egxeiridioy, einai typopoihmenh kai oti sygkekrimeno logismiko perilambanotan sto entypo poy synodeye to paketo 9.1 poy paradoqhke sth Bontafon.

"H diadikasia enhmerwshs twn pelatwn ths Erikson einai synhqhs kai ginetai mesw twn diaylwn epikoinwnias kai enhmerwshs twn pelatwn. Otan ginetai mia paraggelia to periexomeno toy paketoy perilambanetai sta entypa enhmerwshs. Ayth h diadikasia akoloyqhqhke kai me to paketo 9.1 poy eixe paraggeilei h Bontafon",dhlwse o k. Zhkoy, apantwntas stis sxetikes epishmaneis toy Proedroy ths Epitrophs Qesmwn Anastasioy Karamarioy, o opoios ekane logo gia antifatikes apanthseis twn ekproswpwn twn dyo etairiwn.

Wstoso, o Giwrgos Korwnias anteteine:

``To krisimo qema den einai an perilambanetai sto ``prospektoys'' to enhmerwtiko entypo, alla an ginetai eidikh anafora oti sto soft work yparxei to systhma nomimwn synakroasewn kai einai anenergo. Gia na apokthseis tis proairetikes leitoyrgies prepei na tis paraggeileis. Wstoso, exw 2000 eggrafa poy qa kataqesw sthn Epitroph kai anaferontai se oles tis proairetikes leitoyrgies poy perilambanontai sto paketo poy paralabame ektos apo to logismiko. Epibebaiwqhke kai apo thn ERICSON oti den ekane jexwristh anafora, ara den eixame idiaiterh gnwsh. Den gnwrizame thn krisimh parametro oti yphrxe kai htan anenergo to systhma nomimwn synakroasewn''.

O de Mpil Zhkoy shmeiwse:

``To mono sxolio moy einai oti sto periexomeno toy paketoy 9.1 poy paradwsame sthn Bontafon perigrafetai sthn tekmhriwsh ths paraggelias kai sth symbash, to logismiko. Den to anaferame idiaiterws ston ``top manatzer'', giati xrhsimopoioyme gia oloys th synhqh diadikasia. To periexomeno toy paketoy perieixe kai to logismiko. Ta eggrafa mas perielambanan thn sygkekrimenh leitoyrgia sto paketo. Den isxyrizomai oti enhmerwqhke jexwrista h dioikhsh''.

``Giati o k. Korwnias anagoreyse se shmantiko qema thn agnoia toy gia thn yparjh toy systhmatos aytoy kai epimenei oti den hjere;'', rwthse o boyleyths toy PASOK Eyaggelos Benizelos, gia na apanthsei o Dieyqynwn Symboylos ths Bontafon oti "h krisimothta ths den exei anadeixqei apo mena, alla apo thn diadikasia. To krisimo den einai to plhroforiako diktyo, alla an einai energo h oxi to logismiko. An htan gnwsto qa epairna gnwmateysh''.

O boyleyths ths ND Basilhs Magginas epeshmane sto shmeio ayto:

``Apo thn anagnwsh twn topoqethsewn sas, prokyptoyn dyo apolytws sxedon antiqetes topoqethseis. H Bontafon yposthrizei den to paralabame, den enhmerwqhkame, enw o k. Zhkoy leei to antiqeto. Den einai meizon qema ayto;''.

G. Korwnias: "Den eixame gnwsh toy logismikoy, den eixame paraggeilei, oyte to eixame paralabei".

B.Magginas: ``O k. Zhkoy yposthrizei oti h bash toy systhmatos toy logismikoy yphrxe. Eseis oti den enhmerwqhkate proswpika. Ara den apokleietai h Eriksnon na enhmerwse;''.

G. Korwnias: ``Stoixeio tetoias enhmerwshs den yparxei?''.

B. Magginas: ``?Yparxei mia apoklish apo ayta poy leei o k. Korwnias, dhladh oti den apokleietai na yphrxe enhmerwsh, alla den to gnwrize o idios. Eseis k. Korwnia lete den to parelaba kai o k. Zhkoy oti eixe paraggelqei apo th Bontafon''.

G. Korwnias: ``Den to hjera''.

B. Magginas: ``Eseis, k. Zhkoy lete oti h otan h Erikson arxise thn paradosh toy logismikoy, enhmerwse me thn synhqh diadikasia poy akoloyqei. Oti mporei na mhn fqanei se epipedo dieyqynontos symboyloy, alla oti toylaxisto enhmerwnetai o texnikos dieyqynths?''.

M. Zhkoy: ``Den enhmerwsame idiaitera ton k. Korwnia h ton texniko ths Bontafon. Exoyme, omws, toys eidikoys anqrwpoys toy logismikoy poy exoyn epafes kai ekei ginetai h antallagh plhroforiwn. Exoyme diafora epipeda epikoinwnias. Sto paketo 9.1 den perilambanetai to plhres systhma nomimhs synakroashs. Einai, omws, h bash. Gia na mpei se leitoyrgia xreiazontai kai alla pragmata. Otan leme parhggeilan to synoliko systhma ayto egine argotera. Paradoqhke otan egine h paraggelia''.

G. Korwnias: ``Emeis paraggelloyme yphresies poy xrhsimopoioyme. Den paraggeilame ayto to logismiko. Sthn basikh ekdosh toy 9.1 den paraggeilame tis proairetikes. To oti yphrxe h bash nomimhs synakroashs den to gnwrizame. Den yphrje eidikh mneia''.

Sto shmeio ayto o prwhn Proedros ths ND Miltiadhs Ebert apeyqynomenos pros ton k. Korwnia shmeiwse:

``An ayrio o eisaggeleas zhthsei poinikes eyqynes qa to kanei apo esas. To gnwrizete ayto;".

G. Korwnias: ``To programma den to agorasame apo thn Erikson. Emeis phrame adeia xrhsews apo thn etairia''.

M. Ebert: ``Askhsate agwgh h mhnysh kata ths Erikson;''.

G. Korwnias: ``Den exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia, h ypoqesh brisketai sth dikaiosynh?".

M.Ebert: ``Qa zhthsete;''.

G. Korwnias: ``An doyme oti yparxoyn (eyqynes) qa tis zhthsoyme''.

M. Ebert: ``Pote;''

G.Korwnias: ``Den eimai nomikos gia na jerw?''.

M.Ebert: ``Eseis eiste, omws, poinika kai astika ypeyqynos..''.

G. Korwnias: "Den allazei tipota sthn kataqesh moy?''.

M.Ebert: ``Nomizete oti qa to jeperasete etsi eykola epirriptontas o enas thn eyqynh ston allo; H dikaiosynh den qa to kanei?''.

Ey.Benizelos: ``Qewreite (kyrie Korwnia) oti sas ejapathse kai sas ejeqese se kindyno h Erikson topoqetwntas sto logismiko sas kai to systhma nomimwn synakroasewn, kanontas etsi efikto to paranomo logismiko;''.

G. Korwnias: ``Pisteyw oti h Erikson efarmose mia politikh poy eprepe na mas enhmerwsei?''.

Ey. Benizelos:"Pws einai dynato na bazei ena tetoio systhma h Erikson kai na mhn to prowqei emporika; Den fainetai logiko na mhn enhmerwneste eseis kai na mhn enhmerwnei h Erikson?''.

Mpil Zhkoy: ``Me to 9.1, h bash toy systhmatos eixe, hdh, topoqethqei. Dwsame thn tekmhriwsh poy orizei oti sto paketo logismikoy poy paradidetai yparxei h monimh bash. Mesa sto ntosie paradoshs yparxoyn ta eggrafa. Yparxei h tekmhriwsh poy leei ti akribws perilambanetai sto paketo 9.1 Dhlwnw oti otan paradwsame to paketo kai to soft work yphrxe katalogos poy elege ti akribws einai egkatesthmeno".

Ey. Benizelos:"Stis alles etairies, opws h ``TIM'', pws leitoyrghse to systhma; To idio; Sas to parhggeile; Pote phrate thn paraggelia; Giati den to poylate;".

Mpil Zhkoy:``Einai akribws h idia diadikasia? Otan to poylhsame kai egkatasthsame to 9.1 sthn ``TIM'' doqhke h idia tekmhriwsh. To plhres systhma nomimhs synakroashs poylietai, otan epitrepetai apo thn nomoqesia ths xwras''.

Ey.Benizelos: ``Kanate dhladh mia paranomh prajh?''.

Mp.Zhkoy: ``Oxi giati den eixame egkatasthsei to paranomo systhma, alla thn bash panw sthn opoia mporoyse kaneis na topoqethsei alla systhmata... Den pisteyoyme oti kaname tipota paranomo giati to systhma den eixe paradoqei. Eprepe na ginoyn polla bhmata gia na leitoyrghsei to systhma nomimhs synakroashs?''.

O Boyleyths toy SYN Fwths Koybelhs rwthse ton k. Zhkoy an exei antigrafo ths paraggelias me thn Bontafon.

Mp.Zhkoy: ``Den exw antigrafo. Ypobalame sthn Epitroph th symbash poy ypogracame".

F. Koybelhs: ``Oi symfwnies ginontai proforika kai den apotypwnontai se eggrafo;''.

Mp.Zhkoy: ``Den thn exw mazi moy shmera..''.

Koybelhs: ``Ayth thn symfwnia na thn kataqesete sthn Epitroph giati qa apodeixtei an to systhma ayto eixe paraggelqei?''.

Mp..Zhkoy: ``Ayth h sygkekrimenh bash gia nomimes synakroaseis den paraggelqhke ws proairetiko stoixeio, alla htan sto paketo to opoio den leitoyrgoyse?''

Koybelhs. ``Ws proairetiko stoixeio, o k. Korwnias eipe oti eprepe na katablhqei epiprosqeto timhma. Kateblhqh;".

Mp.Zhkoy: ``Estw kai an den leitoyrgei yphrxe sto paketo. Mono me thn xrhsimopoihsh toy pairnoyme xrhmata, giati apo mono toy den mporei na xrhsimopoihqei".

Enoxlhmenoi oi boyleytes

Enoxlhmenoi fanhkan arketoi boyleytes - melh ths Epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, apo th stash twn k.k. Korwnia kai Zhkoy kata thn kat' antiparastash ejetash toys.

Malista, o boyleyths ths ND Xr. Zwhs apoxwrhse ths aiqoyshs prin ta hgetika stelexh ths Bontafon kai ths Erikson oloklhrwsoyn tis katb antiparastash topoqethseis toys.

``Parakoloyqhsame ena qeatro paralogoy, opoy o kaqenas epishmainei tis antifaseis toy alloy kai kaneis den niwqei thn anagkh na diamartyrhqei gia ayta poy toy prosaptei o allos'', eipe xarakthristika stoys koinoboyleytikoys syntaktes.

Kai prosqese:

"Oi mh apanthseis, oi antifaseis kai ta kena twn dyo, apoteloyn arketo yliko to opoio mporei na teqei ypoch allwn arxwn".

Alla kai o koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos ths ND Basilhs Magginas dhlwse stoys dhmosiografoys oti oi antifaseis twn k.k. Korwnia kai Zhkoy synexisthkan kai prosqese oti egine prospaqeia amblynshs palaioterwn qesewn toys.

Klhqeis sxetikws, o dieyqynwn symboylos ths Bontafon G. Korwnias dexqhke oti h dikh toy topoqethsh diaferei apo ayth to omologoy toy ths Erikson, sto oti den eixe ginei ``eidikh mneia'' apo th soyhdikh etaireia gia thn symperilhch toy logismikoy nomimwn synakroasewn sto anabaqmismeno logismiko poy parelabe h etaireia toy.

Apo thn pleyra toy, o k. Zhkoy eipe oti Erikson enhmerwse th Bontafon oti sto plhres paketo toy logismikoy R 9.1 yphrxe h bash gia th dynatothta nomimwn synakroasewn enw epemeine gia thn eyqynh toy paroxoy (Vodafone) ws pros thn asfaleia toy logismikoy aytoy.

O prwhn proedros ths ND Miltiadhs Ebert rwthse ton k. Korwnia apo poion qa zhthsei apozhmiwsh se periptwsh poy parakoloyqeitai to thlefwno toy.

O k. Korwnias apanthse ``apo th Bontafon'', enw den sxoliase thn erwthsh toy k. Ebert gia ton ean exei poinikes eyqynes.

``Eiste astika kai poinika ypeyqynos. Den mporei h mia etairia na ta rixnei sthn allh'', sxoliase o k. Ebert.

Enoxlhmenh emfanisthke kai h boyleyths toy KKE Liana Kanellh apo thn apanthsh toy k. Korwnia sxetika me to paralhfqen logismiko ths Erikson.

Mas apantate san aplos daneiolhpths pistwtikhs kartas o opoios den gnwrizei toys oroys poy anaferontai sta cila grammata, eipe h k. Kanellh, enw o k. Korwnias dhlwse oti exei eyqynh gia ta systhmata poy paralambanei efoson egkatastaqoyn nomimws.

Otan o k. Korwnias epanelabe oti to (pareisakto) logismiko qa mporoyse na janampei se leitoyrgia gia logoys diereynhshs ths ypoqeshs, h ka Kanellh sxoliase oti oyte Roymanos kleidaras den janampainei se meros poy exei diarrhjei.

Alla kai o boyleyths toy SRA Fwths Koybelhs anarwthqhke ean ``yphrje atyph symfwnia, na xorhghse h Erikson to logismiko kai h Bontafon na mhn to parhggeile kai na briskomaste edw poy briskomaste shmera''.

O k. Korwnias to arnhqhke kathgorhmatika, enw o k. Zhkoy eipe oti ``ej oswn gnwrizw den yphrje kamia tetoia synennohsh''.

Ej alloy, o boyleyths toy PASOK M. Papaiwannoy rwthse ton k. Korwnia pws dhlwnei oti agnooyse thn yparjh toy logismikoy twn nomimwn synakroasewn,otan ton Ioynio toy 2004 ekproswpos ths TIM elege oti yphrxe to logismiko kai otan to Maio toy 2004 eixan episkefqei th Bontafon Ellhnes astynomikoi mazi me Aggloys gia na toy zhthsoyn na jekleidwsei to logismiko. O k. Korwnias eipe oti zhthsan na kanoyn nomimh synakroash, alla h nomikh yphresia ths Bontafon antistaqhke se ayto.

O k. Korwnias eipe epishs oti den qelei na sxoliasei dhmosieymata poy aforoyn se alles etaireies gia paromoia zhthmata, enw den htan se qesh na apanthsei amesws gia to an alhqeyei h plhroforia, poy toy eqese o Basilhs Magginas, gia to ean topoqethqhke prosqeth keraia ths Bontafon sth Sifno, topo diakopwn toy tews prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith, prokeimenoy na epikoinwnei eyxerestera.

Sthn erwthsh toy boyleyth toy PASOK F. Petsalnikoy gia thn wra poy thlefwnhse sto grafeio toy prwqypoyrgoy prokeimenoy na zhthsei synanthsh me ton k. Karamanlh, o k. Korwnias eipe oti epixeirhse dyo-treis fores meta to meshmeri.

Epishs, se erwthsh toy Grammatea ths KO ths ND Ap. Stayroy gia thn perioxh poy kalypte to 4o kentro ypoklopwn, o k. Korwnias eipe to tetarto kentro sto opoio breqhke antigrafo toy pareisaktoy logismikoy kalypte perioxh ston Peiraia, kai oti eixe pacei na leitoyrgei apo tis 31/1/2005.

O Proedros ths epitrophs Qesmwn kai Diafaneias An. Karamarios anakoinwse oti h ADAE qa toy diabibasei to deytero porisma ths ayrio (Paraskeyh) to apogeyma, kai oti ta praktika twn synedriasewn ths epitrophs gia to qema twn ypoklopwn qa doqoyn sth Dikaiosynh.

Kai, telos, o Apostolos Kaklamanhs dhlwse oti to ergo ths epitrophs den exei oloklhrwqei kai oti prepei na klhteyqoyn kai alloi martyres.

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[04] Sthn Aqhna o Apostolos Babylhs

O Babylhs kai oi synodoi toy anaxwrhsan apo Rwmh me pthsh ths "Olympiakhs" h opoia prosgeiwqhke sto aerodromio "Eleyqerios Benizelos" kai sth synexeia metaferqhke sth Genikh Astynomikh Dieyqynsh Attikhs.

O Apostolos Babylhs to apogeyma odhghqhke ston eisaggelea ektelesews poinwn, prokeimenoy na ginei ektelesth h poinh poy toy exei epiblhqei apo thn italikh dikaiosynh.

O Babylhs poy synelhfqh sth Mpolonia stis 22 toy perasmenoy Aprilioy, exei katadikastei apo to Kakoyrgiodikeio ths Benetias se poinh kaqeirjhs epta etwn gia diakinhsh narkwtikwn.

Sthn Ellada o Babylhs kathgoreitai se baqmo kakoyrghmatos enwpion ths tetarths taktikhs anakritrias gia parabiash mystikwn ths Politeias, poy afora feromenes sxeseis toy me mystikes yphresies jenwn xwrwn, apath, plastografia meta xrhsews kai amesh synergeia se ypejairesh, kathgories poy aforoyn thn systash toy mh kerdoskopikoy swmateioy "Magkna Gkretsia".

O Babylhs antimetwpizei epishs kathgories se baqmo Plhmmelhmatos, gia plastografia, kloph, yfarpagh ceydoys bebaiwshs, aproklhths emprakths ejybrishs kai sykofantikhs dysfhmishs, kathgories poy aforoyn thn ekdosh plastwn tajidiwtikwn eggrafwn, alla kai energeies stis opoies eixe probei kata th diarkeia ekloghs kai enqronishs toy ekptwtoy pleon Patriarxh Ierosolymwn Eirhnaioy.

Telos, ton Apostolo Babylh barynei kai poinh kaqeirjhs 13 etwn apo thn ellhnikh dikaiosynh, gia ypoqesh narkwtikwn, poinh sthn opoia exei doqei 15eth anastolh, h opoia elhje ton perasmeno Ianoyario.

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