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[01] BASILEIOY SYNOMILIES SYNENTEYJH

[01] BASILEIOY SYNOMILIES SYNENTEYJH

Se synenteyjh toy sto KYPE me aformh thn oloklhrwsh toy prwtoy gyroy twn apeyqeias synomiliwn, shmeiwnei oti yparxei oysiastikh proodos, kaqws prwth fora ginetai mia eilikrinhs diapragmateysh. ``Ayto den shmainei oti lyqhke to Kypriako, alla oxi kai oti xanoyn thn wra toys stis diapragmateyseis'', leei. Jekaqarizei pws den mporoyn na yparjoyn monimes parekkliseis apo to eyrwpaiko kekthmeno kai oyte mporei h opoia symfwnia gia th lysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos na katastei prwtogenes dikaio. Yphrje proodos sta qemata ths EE, anefere, giati oi t/k syneidhtopoihsan oti ``den shkwnei diapragmateysh''. Qewrei pws to qema twn eggyhsewn ``den yfistatai'', efoson h Kypros einai melos ths EE kai shmeiwnei oti oi synepeies ths mh lyshs toy Kypriakoy einai poly perissoteres apo ta ofelh ths lyshs. O,ti kai na ginetai ston kosmo, logw oikonomikhs krishs, ean to Kypriako lyqei, h katastash sto nhsi qa allajei ardhn, dhlwnei.

O k. Basileioy den qewrei oroshmo gia thn Toyrkia thn ajiologhsh ths apo thn EE ton erxomeno Dekembrio ``giati se kanenan den aresei na dinei telesigrafa'', alla thn epiqymia ths xwras na akoloyqhsei thn eyrwpaikh poreia kai na endynamwsei to gewstrathgiko ths rolo sthn perioxh. Yparxoyn ``atoma kai mh xwrio'' poy den dexqhkan pote thn idea ths omospondias, dhlwnei anaferomenos sthn e/k pleyra kai tonizei oti h bash ths symfwnias einai h dizwnikh, dikoinotikh omospondia me politikh isothta, opws symfwnhse o Eqnarxhs Makarios kai metepeita o aeimnhstos Spyros Kyprianoy. Sthn erwthsh ean qewrei pws yparxei momentoym gia th lysh, apanta katafatika.

Akoloyqei oloklhrh h synenteyjh toy k. Basileioy.

Er: Ws epikefalhs ths omadas ergasias gia ta qemata ths EE, sta opoia kai yphrje h megalyterh sygklish, opws einai gnwsto, qa qelame na kanete mia apotimhsh.

Ap: H proswpikh moy apoch einai oti par olo poy poly kosmos mporei na nomizei oti den egine tipota h eginan elaxista, yphrje oysiastikh proodos.

Er: Sta qemata ths EE h genika;

Ap: Genika. Htan isws h monadikh fora poy kai apo tis dyo pleyres yphrxe kalh diaqesh na ereynhsoyn poia einai ta qemata epi twn opoiwn diapragmateyontai kai na ekfrasoyn apoceis. Mporei na symfwnoysan, mporei na diafwnoysan, alla eipe o kaqenas ta dika toy me eilikrinh tropo. An qelete na kanoyme sygkrish, den einai opws ton kairo poy diapragmateyomoyn egw me ton Raoyf Ntenktas, o opoios eixe ategktes qeseis kai egw prospaqoysa na ton kanw na syzhthsei, alla den proxwroysame. Edw yphrje mia eilikrinhs diapragmateysh. Eipan tis apoceis toys kai apo olh th syzhthsh poy egine diafanhke oti se polla qemata htan dynato na yparjei proodos kai yphrje proodos. Apo ta eji kefalaia twn diapragmateysewn, ta tria: to Perioysiako, to Edafiko kai oi Eggyhseis einai sthn oysia ena kai den exeis polla na syzhthseis, einai qema na pareis tis genikes apofaseis poy yparxoyn metajy twn dyo pleyrwn. P.x. sto Perioysiako yparxei symfwnia oti anagnwrizoyn thn idiokthsia. Yparxei diafwnia sto ti shmainei ayto. H t/k pleyra rixnei to baros sthn apozhmiwsh kai h e/k pleyra sthn katarxhn epilogh toy idiokthth. Apo th stigmh poy qa apofasistei to ti qa ginei, den einai dyskolo. Ayto poy qelw na pw, einai oti oi apofaseis gi ayta ta tria kefalaia einai oysiastikes, alla oxi pragmata poy qeloyn poly xrono, opws h Diakybernhsh. Arkei na lhfqei h politikh apofash. Ta kefalaia einai tria (Diakybernhsh, Oikonomia, EE) kai tria (Perioysiako, Edafiko, Eggyhseis), alla se ogko diapragmateyshs h analogia einai oktw pros dyo. Apo pleyras politikhs shmasias, mporei na einai anapoda, alla twra milame gia to pws phgan oi diapragmateyseis. Kanenas den perimene oti ston prwto gyro twn diapragmateysewn na kleisoyn ta politika qemata.

Den qelw omws na dwsw thn entypwsh oti lyqhke to Kypriako. Apo kai pera to qewrw poly megalo laqos na tonizei kapoios oti den egine tipota h exanan thn wra toys. Oxi, egine oysiastikh syzhthsh. Sto deytero gyro twra, elpizw oti qa yparjei akomh megalyterh proodos ews otoy fqasoyme sto teliko pare-dwse, to opoio den jeroyme pote kai pws qa ginei. Mporei na ginei fetos, mporei kai oxi.

Er: H t/k pleyra, alla kai h toyrkikh, lene oti mporei na yparjei mia symfwnia mexri to telos toy xronoy kai arxes toy alloy xronoy na ginoyn dhmochfismata.

Ap: Mporei. Apo ekeinoys ejartatai. An erqoyn me shmeia poy einai apodekta apo emas sta plaisia ths logikhs, tote mporei na petyxoyme lysh kai ton Oktwbrio.

Er: Sta qemata ths EE, opoy hsastan epikefalhs, poy yphrje sygklish;

Ap: Se ola. Syneidhtopoihsan (oi T/k) meta apo thn poly syzhthsh oti gia ta qemata ths EE den shkwnei diapragmateysh. Dhladh, oi tesseris basikes eleyqeries, einai oi tesseris basikes eleyqeries. Akomh kai oi HPA na hqelan na mpoyn sthn EE kai zhtoysan xarh panw se ayto, den prokeitai na toys thn ekanan. Einai h bash panw sthn opoia sthrizetai h EE. Den shkwnei, epishs, syzhthsh gia monimes parekkliseis. P.x., opoiosdhpote Eyrwpaios poliths qa exei dikaiwma na ependysei se ena apo ta mellontika synistwnta kratidia kai den mporei ayto na tygxanei egkrishs apo ayta.

Er: Oi T/k zhtoyn epishs, h opoia symfwnia na qewrhqei prwtogenes dikaio.

Ap: Amfiballw ean mporei na ginei. Gia na ginei, qa eprepe oi T/k na eixan apodexqei thn prosklhsh poy toys eixe apeyqynei o Proedros Klhridhs me dikh moy prwtoboylia, gia symmetoxh stis diapragmateyseis gia entajh sthn EE. Den dexqhkan, kai h Kypros entaxqhke ws synolo sthn EE, me anabolh ths efarmoghs toy eyrwpaikoy kekthmenoy stis ypo katoxh perioxes mexri na termatistei h katoxh. An ypoqesoyme oti twra den qeloyme ayto poy symfwnhsame tote, qa prepei na bgoyme apo thn EE kai na perimenoyme ews otoy ta 26 Koinoboylia twn xwrwn - melwn egkrinoyn thn opoia symfwnia kanoyme. Kati poy den mporei na ginei h an mporei na ginei, mporei na parei kai tria xronia. Na bgoyme apo thn Eyrwph, na katsoyme 2-3 xronia na perimenoyme na janampoyme; Den nomizw

Er: Otan arxizan oi synomilies eixate dhlwsei oti oi k. Xristofias kai Talat ``einai katadikasmenoi na petyxoyn''. To pisteyete akoma ayto;

Ap: Apolyta. Kai malista perissotero. Na sas pw kai to giati. As jekinhsoyme apo thn t/k pleyra. Einai gnwsto oti h politikh kai h oikonomikh katastash sta katexomena, den einai zhleyth. Epeidh kai sthn Toyrkia h oikonomikh katastash einai dyskolh, den toys ikanopoiei to gegonos oti amesa h emmesa prepei na ependyoyn 1,5 dis. dolaria to xrono sta katexomena. Ean den yparjei lysh, ti qa shmainei ayto gia thn t/k pleyra; Shmainei oti h ennoia T/k qa pacei na yparxei, oxi ayrio, alla se 5 h 10 xronia. Einai kai to qema ths idiokthsias. O,ti kai na kanoyn ayta poy katexoyn den qa pacoyn na einai paranoma.

Se emas twra. Mas symferei h lysh, giati den mporeis na zeis panta me thn elpida ths lyshs xwris ayth. Kai na mhn jexnoyme oti sthn Kypro yphrxan panta dyo sxoles. Yphrxe mia sxolh, h opoia sthn oysia hqele h Kypros na einai ellhnikh, teleia. Yphrjan de kai anqrwpoi poy meta thn eisbolh kai thn katoxh eipan ``htthqhkame ston polemo na moirasoyme thn Kypro''. Ayto einai, toylaxiston gia mena, alla eimai bebaios kai sth syntriptikh pleiochfia twn E/k, aparadekto. Qeloyme h Kypros na ginei jana eniaio synolo.

O Proedros Xristofias einai taytismenos me thn idea ths lyshs. Oxi mono taytismenos me thn epiqymia gia lysh, alla pisteyei eilikrina kai sas to lew ayto giati jerw pws skeftetai oti h lysh einai pros ofelos oloklhrhs ths Kyproy.

Ta ofelh gia thn Kypro genika qa einai polla. Shmera, h Kypros antimetwpizei dyskoles oikonomikes synqhkes, den yparxei amfibolia. Exoyme meiwsh toy toyrismoy, twn ependysewn, toy ariqmoy twn jenwn poy erxontai na zhsoyn edw, idiws twn Rwswn, twn ergasiwn poy sxetizontai me toys toyristes, alla kai meiwsh ths prooptikhs epilyshs olwn aytwn twn qematwn, kaqws den jeroyme pote akribws qa lhjei h krish. An ypoqesoyme, omws, oti exoyme ayrio h se treis mhnes mia symfwnia gia lysh, oti kai na nai h katastash sto ejwteriko, sthn Kypro ta pragmata allazoyn ardhn. Prwta ap ola, oi apozhmiwseis poy qa yparjoyn me ton enan h ton allo tropo, kaqws kai oi desmeyseis twn diaforwn xwrwn na bohqhsoyn kai oikonomika sthn anoikodomhsh, gia th metabatikh periodo kai alloy, shmainei oti qa yparjei ena shmantiko poso poy qa erqei edw na ependyqei kai qa doqei h dynatothta sthn oikonomia na kinhqei. Ektos aytoy, qa exoyme anamfisbhthta ayjhsh toy toyrismoy kai twn jenwn ependysewn dioti oloi qa blepoyn tis nees dynatothtes poy yparxoyn. Gia na mhn ta polylogw, sas lew oti an exoyme lysh, na eiste bebaioi oti h anodos poy qa doyme, qa einai isws h megalyterh apo tote poy h Kypros egine anejarthth. O kaqe Kyprios prepei na syneidhtopoihsei ta ofelh poy qa exei apo th lysh.

Er: Sta shmantika qemata, Perioysiako, Edafiko, Eggyhseis den yparxoyn omws sygkliseis. To exei paradexqei se prosfath synenteyjh toy kai to melos ths omadas Kypriakoy, Toymazos Tsielephs.

Ap: Den yparxei shmera. Sas eipa, sta qemata poy den yparxoyn sygkliseis gia na yparjoyn xreiazetai politikh apofash.

Er: Pisteyete oti peran apo thn epiqymia, h politikh boylhsh kai oi pragmatikes synqhkes mporoyn na odhghsoyn se lysh;

Ap: To pisteyw. Ean pas se mia diapragmateysh kai les ``den pisteyw'', tote giati na pas; Ayto den shmainei oti otan les ``pisteyw'', sigoyra qa ginei. Tote qa htan poly apla ta pragmata. H lysh einai kai pros to symferon ths idias ths Toyrkias, oxi mono gia oikonomikoys logoys. H Toyrkia exei filodojies kai qelei na paijei ena shmantiko gewstrathgiko rolo sthn perioxh. H qesh ths nte fakto epitrepei thn anabaqmish, alla h yparjh toy Kypriakoy empodizei thn oysiastikh anabaqmish. Thn Toyrkia thn enoxlei (to Kypriako) poly perissotero apo o,ti nomizoyme. Den exei anagkh apo to edafos ths boreias Kyproy. Mporei na exei anagkh na einai h Kypros filikh pros ayth h, otan yphrxe o antagwnismos me thn Ellada, na mhn aisqanetai oti thn perikyklwnei, alla ayta den anhkoyn sthn epoxh mas.

Einai gnwsto, epishs, oti to Kypriako ths kleinei to dromo pros thn Eyrwph. Pote den qa dexqei h EE thn Toyrkia apo th stigmh poy epimenei na exei ypo katoxh mia xwra melos ths EE.

Er: Oloi milane gia to oroshmo toy Dekembrioy gia thn Toyrkia.

Ap: Oxi, egw sas milaw genika. To oroshmo toy Dekembrioy qa jeperastei. Den einai oroshmo me thn pragmatikh ennoia ths lejhs, dioti telesigrafa den aresei se kanenan na dinei kai den ejyphretoyn se tipota. Giati ean se apeilhsw kai soy pw bale to xeri soy sto trapezi giati qa se skotwsw, h antidrash qa einai ``oxi den to bazw kai kane to an mporeis''. Gia mena den einai o Dekembrios to oroshmo, alla h epiqymia ths Toyrkias gia entajh sthn EE kai ayth mporei na argei. Alla h epiqymia ths Toyrkias na paijei to gewstrathgiko ths rolo einai amesh. Kai ta oikonomika problhmata gia thn Toyrkia einai epishs amesa.

Er: Yparxei momentoym twra;

Ap: Pisteyw nai. Toylaxiston apo thn pleyra twn T/k kai toy Talat sigoyra yparxei.

Er: Nai, alla o k. Talat den apofasizei monos toy. Ayto einai gnwsto.

Ap: Nai, alla paizei apofasistiko rolo sto pws qa proxwrhsoyme. Egw den pisteyw pws an h t/k pleyra epimenei se mia apoch, h Toyrkia qa qelei na ferei antirrhsh.

Er: Nai, alla sto qema twn eggyhsewn h Toyrkia epimenei oti einai kokkinh grammh.

Ap: Den einai qema Toyrkias, alla qema Eyrwphs. Den nomizw oti qa to lysoyme emeis telika, einai h Eyrwph poy prepei na to lysei. H proswpikh moy apoch einai oti to qema twn eggyhsewn shmera den exei kamia sxesh me to zhthma otan h Kypros egine anejarthth. H Toyrkia ekmetalleyqhke ek twn ysterwn th symfwnia ekeinh gia na kanei thn eisbolh, alla tote h Kypros htan monh ths kai ean den ginotan to prajikophma den qa ginotan h eisbolh. Twra, h Kypros einai melos ths EE. Ean ypoqesoyme oti qa isxyoyn oi eggyhseis, me poia dikaiologia qa qelhsei h Toyrkia na kanei eisbolh; Epeidh egw qa paw na peirajw thn Aise h epeidh qa paei enas E/k epixeirhmatias, qa balei to pistoli ston krotafo enos T/k kai qa toy pei oti qelei ena sygkekrimeno kommati ghs; H qa baloyme emeis tanks na katalaboyn thn Keryneia; Ontas melos ths EE, h ennoia eggyhseis einai teleiws diaforetikh ap o,ti htan prin. Oi eggyhseis shmera einai asxetes.

Er: Qewreite, dhladh, oti mporei na einai ena ``xarti'' poy to paizoyn gia na kerdisoyn kati allo;

Ap: Oxi, mporei na to ennooyn, na einai zhthma kyroys. Alla ekeino poy den mporw na fantastw einai oti, ean ta broyme se ola, den qa breqei kai kapoia ``solomwnikh'' giati ayth th lejh prepei na xrhsimopoihsoyme gia to qema twn eggyhsewn. Gia emena, h ennoia twn eggyhsewn shmera, sthn oysia exei xasei th shmasia ths.

Er: Giati h EE den parembainei pio dynamika sth diadikasia;

Ap: Meta thn eisbolh kaname polemo na analaboyn ta HE thn eyqynh toy problhmatos kai oxi oi HPA kai to qewrhsame qriambo otan to petyxame. Twra allajan ta pragmata, qa qelame na htan h EE giati eimaste pio dynatoi ekei. Sta HE h Toyrkia kai alloi einai isa melh, enw sthn EE h Toyrkia den einai melos. Alla, asxetws aytoy, h EE exei pei oti oi diapragmateyseis ginontai ypo thn aigida twn HE, alla opoiadhpote symfwnia prepei na thn egkrinei kai h idia. H EE asxoleitai perissotero apo o,ti nomizoyme. Den prokeitai na epembei se qemata opws ta pososta toy edafoys toy kaqe kratidioy. Omws, epembainei se qemata poy thn aforoyn kai paizei rolo akoma kai h yparjh ths. Mhn jexnate oti oi T/k polites einai melh ths EE. Ean ayrio den exoyme lysh, ta katexomena qa einai enos eidoys toyrkikhs eparxias, alla oi T/k polites qa exoyn kaqe dikaiwma na einai Eyrwpaioi polites. Oloi oi T/k poy eixan estw kai ena tetragwniko metro ghs apo edw, dikaioyntai na to paroyn. Den exoyme kanena dikaiwma na toys to sterhsoyme. O nomos peri Khdemona T/k perioysiwn den perna sthn EE. Ara, se periptwsh mh lyshs h Toyrkia qa einai kyriarxh sto borra, alla oi T/k qa einai synetairoi sto noto.

Er: O Proedros toy DHSY se prosfath synenteyjh toy eipe oti ean h anabolh ths ajiologhshs ths Toyrkias to Dekembrio qa apobei pros ofelos ths Kyproy, o idios einai yper. Eseis ti lete;

Ap: To qema toy Dekembrioy einai ena qema taktikhs, Nomizw oti oi apoceis poy yparxoyn kai akoygontai oxi apo ton Proedro Xristofia pws to Dekembrio emeis qa baloyme thn Toyrkia sto skamni kai qa th dikasoyme, den einai sobares koybentes. H Eyrwph den leitoyrgei me ayton ton tropo. Ti qa ginei mexri to Dekembrio, den mporw na to prokaqorisw, alla den anamenw dikh. An den yparxei h dynatothta na symfwnhqei kati amesa (sto Kypriako) tote qa broyn ena logo na anaballoyn thn apofash gia parakatw. Den pisteyw eilikrina oti h EE qa qelhsei na erqei se sygkroysh kai se rhjh me thn Toyrkia to Dekembrio, qa prospaqhsoyn na broyn mia diejodo.

Er: Pisteyete oti ayto mporoyme na to ekmetalleytoyme pros ofelos ths Kyproy kai toy Kypriakoy; Na kerdisoyme kati apo ayto;

Ap: Nomizw oti sto baqmo poy qa mporoysame na to ekmetalleytoyme to ekmetalleyomaste. H Toyrkia gnwrizei poly kala oti ean yparjei kapoia proodos stis diapragmateyseis gia to Kypriako, ayto qa metrhsei poly. Den exei kanenan, oyte Toyrko ayth th stigmh poy, akoma kai ean den yphrxe to Kypriako, na pisteyei oti h Toyrkia qa mpei sthn EE se pente xronia. H Toyrkia, sthn kalyterh periptwsh, mporei na ginei melos ths EE se 15 xronia. Se 15 xronia, ajios poy qa zhsei. Mexri tote ti qa ginei kaneis den mporei na to prokaqorisei.

Mexri o stratos sthn Toyrkia, poy einai mia apo tis dioikhseis toy kratoys, na exei to rolo toy gallikoy h toy germanikoy, xreiazetai mia apostash. Ayto kai mono einai arketo gia na mas deijei oti h Toyrkia oti den biazetai. Jerei oti qelei xrono gi ayto, jerei oti ekei qa odhghqei. Alla den prokeitai na odhghqei dia ths bias ayrio. Ap thn allh meria, ekeino poy qelei na jerei h Toyrkia einai oti yparxei ena klima poy ths epitrepei na elpizei.

Er: O k. Talat mila gia perigramma lyshs. Na ypoblhqei ayto sta dhmochfismata kai meta na katalhjoyme stis leptomereies.

Ap: O Talat ayto poy skeftetai einai tis ``ekloges''. Oxi oti den qelei lysh, alla einai idewdes gi ayton na paei stis ``ekloges'' me mia symfwnia. Oi leptomereies ths symfwnias den einai oysiwdeis. Ap th stigmh poy exeis apofasisei tis arxes panw stis opoies qa sthrixqeis gia to Edafiko, to Perioysiako, to qema twn Eggyhsewn, estw kai an den to exeis lysei teleiws (tis Eggyhseis), sta alla tria qemata exeis kanei oysiastikh proodo kai tis symfwnies poy xreiazetai, nai, mporeis na ergasteis stis leptomereies meta.

Er: Yparxei omws kai h sxolh skechs poy leei oti den mporoyme na empisteyqoyme toys Toyrkoys h toys T/k, ean katalhjoyme se mia symfwnia, giati mporei na erqoyn meta kai na ta ``toymparoyn''.

Ap: Epitrecte moy na pw ena pragma ejw apo ta dontia. Yparxoyn anqrwpoi, onoma kai mh xwrio, poy aploystata den exoyn dexqei pote thn idea ths omospondias. H omospondia prepei na ginei syneidhsh sthn Kypro. Prepei na katalaboyme, h qeloyme thn katastrofh ths Kyproy h dexomaste omospondia me o,ti ayto shmainei. Kai omospondia shmainei politikh isothta. Ekeino poy pisteyoyn polloi einai oti mporei na exoyme ``kai to skylo xortato kai to cwmi swsto'', na broyme lysh kai na mhn exoyme omospondia. Ean den kaname thn anohsia na epimenoyme se ayta poy mas odhghsan sto prajikophma, tote qa to eixame ayto to pragma. Alla, ejaitias twn dikwn mas laqwn odhghqhkame sto prajikophma, twn dikwn mas ennow kai ths Elladas. To prajikophma efere toys Toyrkoys kai, meta thn eisbolh, h monh prooptikh pleon einai oi symfwnies koryfhs toy Eqnarxh Makarioy kai sth synexeia toy Spyroy Kyprianoy. Polloi nomizoyn oti prepei na fygoyme apo aytes. Den mporoyme. Oyte me solomwnikes, oyte me tipota.

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